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« Reply #1645 on: October 06, 2017, 05:39:19 PM »
The second ride was "The flight of passage". It's about 4 minutes long and you're hauling ass on the back of an ikran around Pandora. This was the best ride I have ever been on in my life, and I'm not just saying that as die-hard fan of the movie. Unless you're satan, I don't think it's possible for anyone to get on that ride and not feel exactly the same. You sit on this "link chairs" that pair you to an Avatar and you go for a flight. 3D effects of the screen you're looking at combined with the effects generated by the room make for a really intense experience. You feel the breeze, orientation changes, temperature variation, water, and smells as you fly around. I kept a sharp eye out and counted at least four creatures that we hadn't seen in the first movie. We went on it a total of four times. The third time we went on it, the ride started and Victoria realized her glasses were missing the right eyepiece. She told a guy after the ride and he brought us to the front of the 115 minute line. I wish I could have ridden this ride 50 times.

My parents were there on opening day and did this although my mom hated this ride because she got motion sickness although my dad loved it. One of the things they said was that the flora was sort of lackluster. They said they did a good job showing different types of lighting in the plants but overall it didn't really do it for them.

I'm glad you enjoyed it and I'll look forward to checking it out as much as I rag on the movie because Disney does a great job with all of their parks.

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« Reply #1646 on: November 15, 2018, 04:12:22 AM »
https://deadline.com/2018/11/james-cameron-avatar-sequels-alita-titanic-1202502044/amp/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

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In a video message, the director of the two highest-grossing films of all time (Avatar and Titanic) praised the ensemble of actors who have been filming Avatar 2 and Avatar 3 since September 2017.

“Hi, James Cameron here and today I’m coming to you from the set of the Avatar sequels — and behind me you can see our performance-capture stage. Today we’re capturing some stunt scenes filming some stunt scenes but our principal cast are all wrapped: Sam [Worthington], Zoe [Saldana], Sigourney [Weaver], Stephen Lang, Kate Winslet.”

The Oscar-winning filmmaker added: “They’re done now but they gave us incredible performances. And I can’t tell you how proud I am of the work that they did on these films.”

Avatar 2 is due in theaters on December 18, 2020, and will be followed by Avatar 3 on December 17, 2021. Two additional sequels are planned after that if the first pair deliver the kind of box-office success that Fox and Cameron are expecting.

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« Reply #1647 on: November 15, 2018, 04:42:02 AM »
That last bit is incorrect. 4 and 5 already started filming months ago. They're happening regardless of the success of the first two.

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« Reply #1648 on: November 15, 2018, 05:44:27 AM »
I'm not debating you but here's a quote from James Cameron : Cameron stated in a November 26, 2017 interview: "Let’s face it, if Avatar 2 and 3 don’t make enough money, there’s not going to be a 4 and 5.

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« Reply #1649 on: November 15, 2018, 05:51:40 AM »
I'm not debating you but here's a quote from James Cameron : Cameron stated in a November 26, 2017 interview: "Let’s face it, if Avatar 2 and 3 don’t make enough money, there’s not going to be a 4 and 5.

Yeah. I think that sentiment went away 18 days later when Disney announced it was buying 21st Century Fox for $52,400,000,000. Disney spent $500,000,000 (plus annual operating costs) to build Pandora - The Land of Avatar in Animal Kingdom, and it's done wonders for that park's foot traffic. It's in their best interest to keep that park and the franchise relevant.

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« Reply #1650 on: November 15, 2018, 06:06:20 AM »
Yea I do think they will air the movies regardless but they can't do anything if the first two movies are a box-office flop. Filming the movies are one thing but post-production is a huge part of a movie like Avatar.
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« Reply #1651 on: November 15, 2018, 06:21:07 AM »
I'm curious what will be considered a flop. I don't expect any of the sequels to make anywhere near $2.7B like the first one. And even if they manage to hit $750M-$1-B, still a huge success, you're going to have lots of people referring to them as flops.

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« Reply #1652 on: August 03, 2019, 06:29:40 AM »
I was thinking the other day when I last saw a 3D movie at the cinema and I can't remember actually. Where is 3D at these days? I own a VR headset and that's definitely still alive but nobody is talking about 3D cinema anymore. I wonder what Avatar will bring to the table because I feel they have to up the game immensely for 3D cinema to be a thing again. Even 3D TVs seems outdated these days.
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« Reply #1653 on: August 03, 2019, 02:25:21 PM »
I was thinking the other day when I last saw a 3D movie at the cinema and I can't remember actually. Where is 3D at these days? I own a VR headset and that's definitely still alive but nobody is talking about 3D cinema anymore. I wonder what Avatar will bring to the table because I feel they have to up the game immensely for 3D cinema to be a thing again. Even 3D TVs seems outdated these days.

Was just talking to someone about this a few days ago. I have a nice 3D TV and a VR system, and watching a standard 3D HD movie in VR is sooooooo much nicer than on my TV, I think it’s more accurate and less double vision angles due to the natural viewing tech. There is no bad viewing angle in VR. That being said, I do have the Blu-ray 3D version of Avatar which is pretty sweet and don’t think there is a VR3D version. If so, let me know.

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« Reply #1654 on: September 23, 2019, 06:39:31 PM »
So I spent the last week in Disney World and managed to go on Flight of Passage twice. For as much shit I give the movie the ride experience is second to none to anything else in the parks. The visuals, the music, the effects, everything is basically the perfect immersive thrill ride. Luckily we had two FastPasses so we skipped the lines but I'd say it's even worth the half and half plus wait time in case you don't have a FastPass.

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« Reply #1655 on: September 23, 2019, 07:27:22 PM »
All subject matter aside, The Flight Of Passage is the most mind numbingly awesome ride I've ever been on. I rode it 4 times when I went.

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« Reply #1656 on: September 23, 2019, 07:42:00 PM »
I'm afraid to ask but I'm hoping you didn't wait 4+ hours on line like I was hearing some did when it first opened. As much as I liked the ride my limit is maybe an hour and a half for anything I really want to go on.

On a side note one thing that Disney and other parks should have for ride like that is some sort of bathroom halfway through the lines. The first time I went on it there was a kid visibly jumping, squirming, and stamping around with a full bladder in the prep rooms right before you get on and all I could think was "oh man we just wasted a FastPass because this kid is going to pee his pants and shut the ride down so they can clean".

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« Reply #1657 on: September 24, 2019, 06:49:36 AM »
I'm afraid to ask but I'm hoping you didn't wait 4+ hours on line like I was hearing some did when it first opened. As much as I liked the ride my limit is maybe an hour and a half for anything I really want to go on.

On a side note one thing that Disney and other parks should have for ride like that is some sort of bathroom halfway through the lines. The first time I went on it there was a kid visibly jumping, squirming, and stamping around with a full bladder in the prep rooms right before you get on and all I could think was "oh man we just wasted a FastPass because this kid is going to pee his pants and shut the ride down so they can clean".

Agreed on the bathroom. That's a big complaint, especially when a ride was designed with a 6 hour queue line.   

As for my rides, I never waiting more than 90 minutes, and that longest wait was because the ride malfunctioned and need a service. I went in September of 2017, literally 2 days after that monster hurricane rolled through. School was back in session and all the locals were rebuilding and cleaning up. The park was so empty. All of the other rides in the different parts of Animal Kingdom had a max wait time of 15 minutes.   

The fourth time we road, we actually didn't even have to wait in line. On the third ride, my GF's glasses were missing a lense and she didn't realize until the ride started. When the ride ended, she showed the girl collecting the glasses and we got an escort through the bowels of Pandora and came out at the front of the line for the next batch of passengers. It was cool.

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« Reply #1658 on: October 03, 2019, 06:49:55 AM »
The Avatar social media pages posted this pic yesterday. It's really cool to see Cameron being front in center getting the shots.

 

The internet seems to be in a dispute whether or not this thing is a boat. 

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« Reply #1659 on: October 03, 2019, 10:53:37 AM »
The Avatar social media pages posted this pic yesterday. It's really cool to see Cameron being front in center getting the shots.

 

The internet seems to be in a dispute whether or not this thing is a boat.

It's from Titanic 2

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« Reply #1660 on: October 03, 2019, 10:12:10 PM »
The Avatar social media pages posted this pic yesterday. It's really cool to see Cameron being front in center getting the shots.

Maybe "front and center"?

James Cameron and Michael Bay are always out front doing camera work.  It's probably one of the main reasons why people love to work with them even though they can be difficult.  It's the respect factor that they're right there in the trenches with the actors.

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« Reply #1661 on: January 07, 2020, 06:11:08 AM »
Cameron released 4 teaser pics for the upcoming film  :metal 




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« Reply #1662 on: January 07, 2020, 06:47:18 AM »
I really liked AVATAR and am very curious to see how these sequels go. They’ll undoubtedly be visually incredible.....just wondering what the story is.

Those screen shots look great.
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« Reply #1663 on: January 07, 2020, 06:58:42 AM »
I don't think those are still from the movie itself. I'd be very surprised if we'll see any of the finished CGI work before the first trailer releases. These were labelled as "concept art" by Avatar's social media pages, but looking back at the concept art for the first film, the imagery was pretty spot on in regards to the final look and feel.

I would really like to see Cameron knock the 4 sequels out of the park. He's said in interviews that the first film will basically act as the prologue, setting up the world, its people, and a bit of a backstory as to why the humans are there in the first place. The real meat, or the main story if you will, is what the sequels will be tackling. I have no idea what to expect. It's confirmed that Jake and Neytiri will have children in the sequels, which confirms a good time jump. I assume this also means that the humans have also regrouped and will play a large role again as well.

I still stand by my prediction that the humans never left Pandora and simply relocated to another base or settlement somewhere else on the moon. There could be several for all we know.

One thing I'm really hoping for is that each movie tackles different regions/environments on the moon. The first movie focused on the forest, and the second one is confirmed to primarily revolve around clans of the sea. It'd be cool to explore all of what Pandora has to offer. The first movie revealed the existence of clans on the cliff sides and plains as well.

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« Reply #1664 on: July 24, 2020, 05:48:55 AM »
Delayed again!




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« Reply #1665 on: July 24, 2020, 06:55:34 AM »
Shocking.

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« Reply #1666 on: July 24, 2020, 06:57:12 AM »
It sucks because that movie is wrapped up. Disney is just shifting their entire catalog.

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« Reply #1667 on: July 24, 2020, 07:07:26 AM »
It sucks because that movie is wrapped up. Disney is just shifting their entire catalog.
Yeah, it's kind of odd that they shifted all Star Wars and Avatar out a year (they're alternating release years). It seems it would have made more sense to just push out star wars by 2 years and leave Avatar alone since Avatar is close to finished and there's nothing even started on the first Star Wars movie. But I'll trust the Disney folks know that they're doing. They obviously have a pretty good handle on how to run an entertainment business.

Honestly, I think it's increasingly likely with each passing week that I have seen my last new release in a theater. I think it's 50/50 if the theater industry survives all of this.


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« Reply #1668 on: July 24, 2020, 07:19:47 AM »
It sucks because that movie is wrapped up. Disney is just shifting their entire catalog.
Yeah, it's kind of odd that they shifted all Star Wars and Avatar out a year (they're alternating release years). It seems it would have made more sense to just push out star wars by 2 years and leave Avatar alone since Avatar is close to finished and there's nothing even started on the first Star Wars movie. But I'll trust the Disney folks know that they're doing. They obviously have a pretty good handle on how to run an entertainment business.

Honestly, I think it's increasingly likely with each passing week that I have seen my last new release in a theater. I think it's 50/50 if the theater industry survives all of this.

I think there are two main components.

1) I think Disney wanted the future releases for Star Wars and Avatar because they'd act as 8 straight years of marketing for the two theme parks that they just sank $2B+ into building.

2) I don't think they want the competition. I imagine there's a ton of movies that were scheduled for 2020 that have been pushed to 2021. They might fear movie goers being burned out by the time Avatar hit screens in December.

No way this kills the theater industry. It might take down the few giants that spent billions accumulating every theater in the country, but theaters themselves will bounce back. All the infrastructure will still be in place, and after Covid, people are going to be dying to get in a theater to see a film. There's too much money in the industry for it to not survive.

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« Reply #1669 on: July 24, 2020, 07:29:18 AM »
It sucks because that movie is wrapped up. Disney is just shifting their entire catalog.
Yeah, it's kind of odd that they shifted all Star Wars and Avatar out a year (they're alternating release years). It seems it would have made more sense to just push out star wars by 2 years and leave Avatar alone since Avatar is close to finished and there's nothing even started on the first Star Wars movie. But I'll trust the Disney folks know that they're doing. They obviously have a pretty good handle on how to run an entertainment business.

Honestly, I think it's increasingly likely with each passing week that I have seen my last new release in a theater. I think it's 50/50 if the theater industry survives all of this.

I think there are two main components.

1) I think Disney wanted the future releases for Star Wars and Avatar because they'd act as 8 straight years of marketing for the two theme parks that they just sank $2B+ into building.

2) I don't think they want the competition. I imagine there's a ton of movies that were scheduled for 2020 that have been pushed to 2021. They might fear movie goers being burned out by the time Avatar hit screens in December.

No way this kills the theater industry. It might take down the few giants that spent billions accumulating every theater in the country, but theaters themselves will bounce back. All the infrastructure will still be in place, and after Covid, people are going to be dying to get in a theater to see a film. There's too much money in the industry for it to not survive.
Those are good point.

I'm not so sure about the theater industry. AMC, the biggest player, was not in great financial shape before all of this started. It's possible they, and other chains, will be able to declare bankruptcy and restructure their debt in a way to survive. Or maybe they get a bailout of some kind. But I don't see any major releases happening in 2020 in the US. Can they survive another 6 months of virtually no revenue? If they die, will someone be willing to buy the physical assets and restart a new theater chain? If Disney wasn't bleeding cash right now, I'd say they would be the most likely player to buy up physical theaters in order to control their entire movie revenue generation. I think smaller chains that have opened playing old movies might stand a better chance of surviving than the really big ones. It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out.

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« Reply #1670 on: July 24, 2020, 07:35:29 AM »
It sucks because that movie is wrapped up. Disney is just shifting their entire catalog.
Yeah, it's kind of odd that they shifted all Star Wars and Avatar out a year (they're alternating release years). It seems it would have made more sense to just push out star wars by 2 years and leave Avatar alone since Avatar is close to finished and there's nothing even started on the first Star Wars movie. But I'll trust the Disney folks know that they're doing. They obviously have a pretty good handle on how to run an entertainment business.

Honestly, I think it's increasingly likely with each passing week that I have seen my last new release in a theater. I think it's 50/50 if the theater industry survives all of this.

I think there are two main components.

1) I think Disney wanted the future releases for Star Wars and Avatar because they'd act as 8 straight years of marketing for the two theme parks that they just sank $2B+ into building.

2) I don't think they want the competition. I imagine there's a ton of movies that were scheduled for 2020 that have been pushed to 2021. They might fear movie goers being burned out by the time Avatar hit screens in December.

No way this kills the theater industry. It might take down the few giants that spent billions accumulating every theater in the country, but theaters themselves will bounce back. All the infrastructure will still be in place, and after Covid, people are going to be dying to get in a theater to see a film. There's too much money in the industry for it to not survive.
Those are good point.

I'm not so sure about the theater industry. AMC, the biggest player, was not in great financial shape before all of this started. It's possible they, and other chains, will be able to declare bankruptcy and restructure their debt in a way to survive. Or maybe they get a bailout of some kind. But I don't see any major releases happening in 2020 in the US. Can they survive another 6 months of virtually no revenue? If they die, will someone be willing to buy the physical assets and restart a new theater chain? If Disney wasn't bleeding cash right now, I'd say they would be the most likely player to buy up physical theaters in order to control their entire movie revenue generation. I think smaller chains that have opened playing old movies might stand a better chance of surviving than the really big ones. It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out.

I think those are going to be the people that start buying up some of the screens that AMC might leave behind.

I think we're going to see a shift in what theaters are used for. I think it's stupid to just do movies, especially now that so many have restaurants and bars in them. Why not live stream sports into them. I imagine people would pay $20 to go watch UFC on a monster screen rather than pay for the paper view. Idk, maybe I'm being optimistic. I could have sworn my dad used to tell me when I was a kid how they used to air boxing matches at cinemas. Then again, lots of people probably didn't have TVs in the home then.
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« Reply #1671 on: July 24, 2020, 07:43:20 AM »
Yeah, major sporting events would be great to watch on a big screen surrounded by other fans. Some of that was already starting to happen, but not enough. The Super Bowl, World Series, college football championship game, etc would be great and another way for those sports to generate revenue.

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« Reply #1672 on: July 24, 2020, 06:30:44 PM »
It's f-ing mad that James Cameron has released one film since 1997.

23 years and counting.

It'll be 25 years by the time AvaTwo comes out.

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« Reply #1673 on: August 05, 2020, 06:54:37 AM »
New vehicle from the next film unveiled  :metal \

Can't wait to see what the oceans of Pandora have in store for us.


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« Reply #1674 on: August 05, 2020, 07:48:15 AM »
Such a creative take on an underwater submersible by essentially making it a large crab.
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« Reply #1675 on: August 05, 2020, 08:20:26 AM »
Is this going to be 3-D?

I only ask because it seems 3-D movies aren’t a thing anymore.
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« Reply #1676 on: August 05, 2020, 09:54:13 AM »
Is this going to be 3-D?

I only ask because it seems 3-D movies aren’t a thing anymore.

It'll probably be in 3D and 60 FPS so it'll be like you're actually there with them.  But 60 FPS will look nothing like a movie and will look closer to reality.

Like how The Hobbit in 48 FPS looked like a TV drama instead of a movie. But the next level beyond that.

Then the Blu Ray will probably be normal 24 FPS and look cinematic. So go to the cinema for the experience then get the BR for the actual 'movie'.

PS I re-watched Avatar recently fearing too much time had passed and now i'd hate it.

I didn't.

i still love it. F The Po Po.

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« Reply #1677 on: August 05, 2020, 10:02:02 AM »
Is this going to be 3-D?

I only ask because it seems 3-D movies aren’t a thing anymore.

It will be  :corn

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« Reply #1678 on: January 07, 2021, 09:24:15 AM »
Incase anyone is interested, Dark Horse's latest Avatar comic just released.

There were six issues released a while ago that were part of a story called Tsu'tey's Path, which took place during the events of the first film. The new line of comics should be pretty cool because it's going to cover the events that take place between the OG film and the four upcoming sequels. From what I understand, the second film will start well after the events of the first film, after Jake and Neytiri have already popped out a few children. We'll get to see what happened in the gap period with these comics. It is the official continuation of Avatar's story ahead of its return to movie theaters.


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« Reply #1679 on: January 07, 2021, 03:44:14 PM »
I can't remember--have you been to Pandora Land at Disney?  If so, what did you think of it and the two rides? 

Personally, I LOVED Flight of Passage.  Best screen simulator ride, hands down, IMO. 

The other one (nav'i river journey, or whatever it's called) didn't do it for me.  Glad I got to see it once.  But it's basically an Avatar-themed It's A Small World, which is cool, but not worth the line wait times.  I would have liked it better if some of it was outside and followed the actual river that is there, more akin to Jungle Cruise, which is what I mistakenly expected.
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