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« Reply #210 on: November 22, 2011, 12:41:52 PM »
Sorry, apperantly it's from The Lone Ranger:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDedUcmvgL8

Yeah I know that, I was just wondering why they kept saying it during the show and if anyone knew the story of why it was repeated so much.
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« Reply #211 on: November 22, 2011, 01:12:55 PM »
Oh no, just on stage humor. Check out the Flo and Eddie period (Fillmore East most notably) for more of that on stage insiders jokes that crack up the members of the band, but aren't easy to understand.

What's the Uncle Meat song again... Sleeping in a Jar, has lyrics, but all insiders jokes.
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« Reply #212 on: November 22, 2011, 01:18:38 PM »
Ah ok cool
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« Reply #213 on: December 12, 2011, 11:57:53 AM »
I've been listening to pretty much nothing but Zappa for the past week or so. Grabbed Hot Rats and Sheik Yerbouti and love them both. I think I'll need to let them sink in before I expand any more, though.

I'm kind of ashamed to have heard about Zappa's genius for so long and I didn't listen sooner.

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« Reply #214 on: December 12, 2011, 03:25:25 PM »
But at least you listen now.  That's the important thing.

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« Reply #215 on: December 13, 2011, 01:37:31 AM »
Oh no, just on stage humor. Check out the Flo and Eddie period (Fillmore East most notably) for more of that on stage insiders jokes that crack up the members of the band, but aren't easy to understand.

What's the Uncle Meat song again... Sleeping in a Jar, has lyrics, but all insiders jokes.

"Patrick is a vegetable!" "Aaaahh!"
"Stop holding your pickle!"
"She'll whip up some soup for you too!"
"and they'll complain if I talk about this horrible pizza during the show...."

This is one of the things that makes Zappa such a joy to listen too. A lot of it is explained (for instance in the YCDTOSA booklets), but most of it isn't and you'll have to figure it out for yourself. Took me decades to figure out that the 'song about flying saucers' Inca Roads isn't about flying saucers at all....


it's about a booger that landed...On Ruth! :D
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« Reply #216 on: December 13, 2011, 07:26:32 AM »
It's 'Ketchup is a vegetable' right?

Oh wait, but he says something different on another album right?

Man all that conceptual continuity is driving me mad, haha.

"Maaaaad, with... desire!"
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« Reply #217 on: December 13, 2011, 03:47:23 PM »
Cabbage is a vegetab----

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« Reply #218 on: December 14, 2011, 12:18:15 AM »
Call any vegetable...   :neverusethis:

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« Reply #219 on: December 14, 2011, 02:06:19 AM »
Cabbage is a vegetab----

Aah yes, that's the original. And live he turns it in ketchup
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« Reply #220 on: December 14, 2011, 12:56:14 PM »
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« Reply #221 on: December 14, 2011, 01:01:36 PM »
It's a drag being a cop, I think I'd rather be the mayor.



BTW, still going strong with my public transport zappathon. Had to go by train again today, listened to album 71: Halloween today. And I don't know, one of the first ZFT albums that's doesn't really have anything special. I know, it's nice to hear a recording with Shankar, and the Vinnie Coliuta solo is good, but there isn't a single track that is better than 'good'.

And I'm looking forward to album 72 Joe's Corsage. 
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« Reply #222 on: December 14, 2011, 01:03:21 PM »
I tried listening to Absolutely Free the other day, but it didn't grab me like Freak Out! Ship Arriving Too Late to Save a Drowning Witch, or We're Only In it For the Money did.

I think I might get Apostrophe next.
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« Reply #223 on: December 14, 2011, 01:06:30 PM »
Wait a tick... Freak, Money and Ship?! Strange combo.
How about trying a You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore? I'd recommend 2 or 3 for you.
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« Reply #224 on: December 14, 2011, 01:13:41 PM »
I don't know why I like Ship so much. All I know is that No Not Now is probably one of the catchiest songs I've ever heard.

As an aside, the guitar work in Nanook Rubs It is fucking awesome.
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« Reply #225 on: December 14, 2011, 01:16:46 PM »
Oh yes, Nanook rocks balls. And No Not Now is great, I just thought you wouldn't like the production. (Oh and in the case of catchy-ness, have you heard Let Me Take You To The Beach? ;) )
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« Reply #226 on: December 14, 2011, 01:18:45 PM »
I think the production is my favorite part about the album. It's so 80s. Haven't heard that song, but I'll check it out after Apostrophe's over.
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« Reply #227 on: December 14, 2011, 01:21:18 PM »
You're listening to Apostrophe as we speak? Cool! After the Yellow Snow Suite, my favourites are Cosmik Debris and Stinkfoot, both in my top 10 Zappa songs, I think.
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« Reply #228 on: December 14, 2011, 01:23:21 PM »
Cosmik Debris is NGFFFFFFFFFFF SO GOOD.

What else does he have like this one? It's kicking my ass.
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« Reply #229 on: December 14, 2011, 01:36:15 PM »
You HAVE to check out YCDTOSA 2 now. That band is so much fun.

Oh and Roxy and Elsewhere is the best album with that band.

But more of those bluesy fun tracks? Just wait for the album closer, haha.
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« Reply #230 on: December 14, 2011, 01:37:07 PM »
On it right now. My goodness. :metalol:

Got Roxy already. Very enjoyable. I guess I'll get YCDTOSA 2 then.
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« Reply #231 on: December 14, 2011, 04:33:22 PM »
Nice, I love how we see you're Zappa quest live on DTF here, haha.
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« Reply #232 on: December 14, 2011, 04:54:04 PM »
Yeah, that's the beauty of the internet. He is quickly becoming my second favorite musician (Nobody will ever touch Devin Townsend, of course). I'll probably listen to Overly Long Acronym Vol. 2 tonight.
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« Reply #233 on: December 15, 2011, 02:21:50 AM »
IIiiiiiiiiii come from noowheeere....and you must go there....'

'Valley girl, she's a valley girl...'

'What happenend to you? George has a tape of it? Ok, we'll use that next show!'  :rollin

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« Reply #234 on: December 15, 2011, 05:39:42 AM »
Yeah, that's the beauty of the internet. He is quickly becoming my second favorite musician (Nobody will ever touch Devin Townsend, of course). I'll probably listen to Overly Long Acronym Vol. 2 tonight.

Yeah, I totally understand. I'd love to see your reaction of Room Service, or Approximate.


Oh yeah, and the George Duke quote is great. The Gorilla Suit quotes are great too.
Oh and "Room 33 is right next to 44, right? And that's the room that's got the smell of the dogs coming out of it... -I haven't even told you 'bout the dogs yet."
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« Reply #235 on: December 15, 2011, 06:15:37 AM »
Evelyn a modified dog...

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« Reply #236 on: December 15, 2011, 12:33:15 PM »
HOw does everyone here feel about Lather? I think it's a top 5 Zappa album, including many FZ classics

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« Reply #237 on: December 15, 2011, 12:35:52 PM »
I'm having trouble with not seeing it as a compilation album. Instead of seeing the three albums it comprises as 'parts of lather' I still see Lather as those three albums combined.

Apart from that it's long, and I've only listened to it totally, a couple of times.


In short: I'm having difficulties with it, but it can definitely be a top 10 Zappa album for me.
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« Reply #238 on: December 15, 2011, 12:44:35 PM »
Check your PM's, Nihil.
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« Reply #239 on: December 15, 2011, 12:46:43 PM »
I've had it for a while, and still have never gotten all the way through it.

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« Reply #240 on: December 15, 2011, 12:59:38 PM »
I'm having trouble with not seeing it as a compilation album. Instead of seeing the three albums it comprises as 'parts of lather' I still see Lather as those three albums combined.

Apart from that it's long, and I've only listened to it totally, a couple of times.


In short: I'm having difficulties with it, but it can definitely be a top 10 Zappa album for me.

But the tracklisting is completely different. Aside from some of the Zappa New York tracks, (since I have ZNY for a while before Lather), it feels like an epic 3 part album; even the ZNY tracks are a little different from the ones on ZNY (different mixes, slightly longer track lengths.)

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« Reply #241 on: December 15, 2011, 01:04:55 PM »
Oh yeah I know, that's why I said it feels like a compilation. Like a best of of that era. And yeah, the different mixes and edits are mostly cool (apart from the shorter Titties and Beer, haha) but like I said, it doesn't really grip me.

But I'll have a try again after I finish my zappathon, haha.
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« Reply #242 on: December 15, 2011, 02:05:45 PM »
Jesus, Fifty-Fifty/Zombie Woof and of course the last two songs on Over-Nite Sensation, so fucking great.

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« Reply #243 on: December 15, 2011, 02:19:41 PM »
I'm a total sucker for Zomby Woof. The original is awesome, all the live versions are great, and the Zappa Plays Zappa version from the first DVD is incredibly awesome. (That Vai guitar solo!!!)
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« Reply #244 on: December 15, 2011, 02:25:25 PM »
Shit, I've never heard the Zappa Plays Zappa version, gotta get on that.