Nightwish...

[Zook]

Tall women in giant heels is always amusing.  Tuomas is 6'2 and Marco 6'3, but in some promo photos 6'0 Floor is towering over them due to them.  I have a cousin who is at least 5'11 and it's such a weird feeling to see her wearing them in person.  I wonder if they factor the potential for endless back issues later in their lives though.

I think most women don't wear them enough for it to become a posture problem. But maybe it is different in other countries. And Floor
doesn't seem to use actual high heels when performing (boots with heels, but high heels are in a different ballpark).

Edit: looked up some performance pics and she does use high heels sometimes it seems. Can't imagine that feels good running on stage but what do I know

If Bryce Dallas Howard can outrun a T. Rex in high heels, Floor can perform on stage in them just fine.

[The Curious Orange]

when I saw Tarja I was amazed at her ability to jump up and down all night in 5-inch stilettos without breaking her ankle. Floor has nothing on her in that department...

[Architeuthis]

Tall women in giant heels is always amusing.  Tuomas is 6'2 and Marco 6'3, but in some promo photos 6'0 Floor is towering over them due to them.  I have a cousin who is at least 5'11 and it's such a weird feeling to see her wearing them in person.  I wonder if they factor the potential for endless back issues later in their lives though.

I think most women don't wear them enough for it to become a posture problem. But maybe it is different in other countries. And Floor
doesn't seem to use actual high heels when performing (boots with heels, but high heels are in a different ballpark).

Edit: looked up some performance pics and she does use high heels sometimes it seems. Can't imagine that feels good running on stage but what do I know

If Bryce Dallas Howard can outrun a T. Rex in high heels, Floor can perform on stage in them just fine.

Also the Indominous Rex too.. 

[LithoJazzoSphere]

If Bryce Dallas Howard can outrun a T. Rex in high heels, Floor can perform on stage in them just fine.

But you must admit that a T. Rex in high heels runs more slowly and clumsily, making it a bit easier to evade. 

[Zook]

If Bryce Dallas Howard can outrun a T. Rex in high heels, Floor can perform on stage in them just fine.

But you must admit that a T. Rex in high heels runs more slowly and clumsily, making it a bit easier to evade. 

 

[cramx3]

In case you missed it, the interim bassist Jukka Koskinen is now an official member of Nightwish

[ErHaO]

They got Floor to sing our national anthem for the Formula 1 race today. They adjusted it a bit to suit her.

https://youtu.be/Wsmkq4Rqtp8

As a random fact it is one of the oldest national anthems and the original stems from the 1500's.

[MinistroRaven]

Floor Jansen announced on social media that she is battling breast cancer. All the good vibes to her to beat that 

[cramx3]

Yeah, shit news but the outlook seems good so hopefully all goes well and her story becomes helpful to women to make sure they get themselves checked out.  Here's her post:

[LithoJazzoSphere]

Wow, that sucks.  Hopefully there are no complications. 

[ErHaO]

Yeah, that sucks, I wish her the best. Thankfully it seems to be a form with a good prognosis.

And her message is great  It got caught with a routine screening, which many young(er) women don't participate in, while it can be a life saving measure (also for other types of cancer, like cervical cancer). In The Netherlands we have free screening programs and I know young persons that turned out to have precursor lesions, likely saving them from severe illness/death later in life.

[jingle.boy]

Dayum. 

Also, as the DTF population ages, get your damned prostate screening done.

[MirrorMask]

Horrible news but if it had to happen, it's "better" if it happens this way, just like with Bruce Dickinson - caught early during a routine check, and easy to treat.

Also I agree that her message is great and possibly inspiring, one always think it's always the others, no, it can happen to "you", anytime, regardless of age and health. Let's cross fingers and put our faith in the doctors!

[Samsara]

Prayers with Floor, and seriously, love with all of you who may be battling cancer.

I lost both my parents to cancer, my mom at a particularly young 58. So any time I see someone come out and say they are taking on that fight, I wish them victory and the very best.

Go kick its ass, Floor.

[Cool Chris]

Go kick its ass, Floor.

!!!!!

[bosk1]

Horrible news but if it had to happen, it's "better" if it happens this way, just like with Bruce Dickinson - caught early during a routine check, and easy to treat.

Also I agree that her message is great and possibly inspiring, one always think it's always the others, no, it can happen to "you", anytime, regardless of age and health. Let's cross fingers and put our faith in the doctors!

Yeah, all that. 

[MirrorMask]

Very positive news from Floor:

The tumor removal surgery went well without any surprises. I’m recovering well and should be up and about soon. It will take a few weeks to know what the findings are regarding the tumor and lymph node that will be tested.
I’ll keep you posted.
I want to use this opportunity to thank the medical staff that took care of me. All done with so much care, empathy, and professionalism! I felt completely safe in your capable hands! You all are troopers, and not just in the hospital I went to, but worldwide. Thank you for all you do!!!

Again, best of wishes to this amazing woman and congratulations to the doctors who take care of her and everyone else in the same unfortunate condition 

[Zook]

Great news and great of her to acknowledge the doctors.

[CrimsonSunrise]

Wow... hadn't heard about this.  So glad her surgery went well and wish her a full recovery.  I'm 10 years cancer free and like Jingle and others mentioned, get your screenings done!!!  Catching it early is so critical.

[MirrorMask]

Absoutely fantastic news from Floor:

Great news! I am cancer free 🤩 The surgery took everything cancerous out and it hasn’t spread! I’ll get local radiation therapy in February to make sure everything stays out.
I’m getting my energy back after the surgery and feel a huge relief to know it was successful! I’m not back to a 100% but I have no doubt the shows will give me the power push I need to rock with all of you on the upcoming European tour 🤘🏻
Thank you for your amazing support and well wishes Thank you for your amazing support and well wishes 🙏🏻🙏🏻

 

[LithoJazzoSphere]

That's great to hear.  I wonder about her energy though.  My mother had a similar cancer twice, and she was low on energy for months afterwards.  Granted, Floor's a lot younger, but still.

[jingle.boy]

Awesome!

[MirrorMask]

That's great to hear.  I wonder about her energy though.  My mother had a similar cancer twice, and she was low on energy for months afterwards.  Granted, Floor's a lot younger, but still.

Well, I don't think any fan would walk out of a concert upset if she didn't headbang all the time. She already stands at the center with a mic stand quite a lot of time anyway, I won't begrudge her if she'll do it even more and maybe tone down the headbanging. Also, as she said, I'm sure being back on stage will give her a strong boost of energy, her life must have flashed before her eyes when she got the diagnosis, with the terror of not seeing her daughter grow up, knowing that thanks to prevention she "got off easy" and she can presumably live a long and healthy life and also resume her carrer is bound to lift her spirits up, and allow her to endure more the stress of touring!

[lonestar]

Definitely the best news today, I can only imagine how relieved the band and her family are.

[The Curious Orange]

Saw them at Wembley last night. They were excellent as usual, and Floor was in fine voice, but they did only play 90 minutes, which was slightly disappointing. Planet Hell, 7 Days to the Wolves, She is my Sin and Ever Dream all seem to have been dropped from the setlist for some reason, presumably to give Floor a break due to her recent health issues. And yet the dirge that is Harvest remains...

Plus the t-shirts were the same design as the 2018 tour with different dates on the back.

I've not been getting good vibes from NW for some time now, H:N being a very weak album, Marco leaving, the aborted 2021 tour, the somewhat uninspired setlist of this tour, Floor finding a degree of solo success - I do wonder if they aren't nearing the end of the line. The next album better be a belter to erase the stink of H:N, or the band might be in real trouble.

[MirrorMask]

I will be seeing them on the 6th of December and yesterday I found out they moved them to another venue.

Original venue: on the other side of Milan (South east, I work in the north west zone), either I was meant to take a loooong roundabout bus, or two subways, if not three.

New venue: within walking distance from where I work 

It's not a concert venue, more for fairs and exibithions, so I'm afraid it's gonna suck, but hey, at least I can walk out of work, go straight to a concert, and then take the subway back home.

[ErHaO]

Saw them, awesome show! I live close to the venue and got a very cheap second hand ticket, so went a second time last minute

They recorded the Ziggodome shows in Amsterdam, so expect a live release in the future. Set was mostly the same as the virtual concert. They played from 20:45 to 22:30.

Yes, I miss Marko and have ranted about that on the internet plenty. And yes, the setlist is a bit sameish (doesn't help that the two standard closers are like 25 minutes together). But the thing is, even then this is still a fantastic band and class live act. It was probably the best show I have seen this year (which includes Porcupine Tree, Tool, Transatlantic, Blind Guardian etc. all fantastic live acts).

They were on fire and all looked like they were into it. Floor was amazing. The stage and pyrokinetics were great. And they did Phantom of the Opera, it was great seeing Nightwish do it with Floor (though I have seen Floor perform it twice already).

I did notice some mistakes on the first night, I thought the performance was better the second night. And the sound was greatly superior on the second night, the vocals in particular were crystal clear.

Saw them at Wembley last night. They were excellent as usual, and Floor was in fine voice, but they did only play 90 minutes, which was slightly disappointing. Planet Hell, 7 Days to the Wolves, She is my Sin and Ever Dream all seem to have been dropped from the setlist for some reason, presumably to give Floor a break due to her recent health issues. And yet the dirge that is Harvest remains...

Plus the t-shirts were the same design as the 2018 tour with different dates on the back.

I've not been getting good vibes from NW for some time now, H:N being a very weak album, Marco leaving, the aborted 2021 tour, the somewhat uninspired setlist of this tour, Floor finding a degree of solo success - I do wonder if they aren't nearing the end of the line. The next album better be a belter to erase the stink of H:N, or the band might be in real trouble.

For me Harvest was great actually, I thought it was beautiful. But we also have very different opinions on H:N I feel (Human is great, the Nature part is a good but not something I'd spin frequently).

[cramx3]

Harvest was a banger live, I love it.  And I was checking setlist.fm to see if they would do two different sets at Ziggo Dome, but I guess not since it was noted (and just stated here) that it was recorded so that does make sense, bang out two nights and get the best footage possible. I'd buy that. 

[MirrorMask]

Finally saw them yesterday. Beast in Black was opening and they're such a cheesy and joyous band, the love child of Abba and Judas Priest, they stand for everything I dislike in power metal and yet I love them   

Nightwish was great. They moved the show into a place used for fairs and exibithions, never saw a concert there, and I was afraid the place would suck and they wouldn't allow them to use pyros, but luckily I got the full flames and fires. Floor was absolutely amazing, enchanting, divine. She's really one of the best singers in the scene today, and I think we don't need anymore to specify female singers, she's one of the very best, period.

Setlist was the same of the recent dates, I personally don't really love 7 Days to the Wolves and Sahara, and once again I miss out on She is My Sin which I never heard live, but overall I liked the show and I appreciate they played a lot of Human Nature songs. Glad to have heard Shoemaker and Floor being majestic on the ending.

I noticed they really let go of the older albums, after the Decades tour. The oldest album represented in the setlist was Dark Passion Play, no song from the first four albums!

Highlights of the show:

- Every single thing Floor did, basically
- The usual dance-along during I Want My Tears Back
- Shoemaker
- How's the Heart acoustic, even though I missed the ending with Floor and Troy singing alone like in the studio version

The absence of Marko was sorely noticed. After all this time, he was really irreplaceable, as I previously said I still think they should have went the Kamelot way and have a guest male singer for every tour.

Anyway, see you next time Nightwish! and best of luck to Floor, they rescheduled her radiotherapy from February to January, so the asian dates will have to be rescheduled.

[cramx3]

Whoa whoa whoa, Sahara is not part of the normal setlist for this tour. I just looked it up, thats only the 2nd time they've played it since 2016 (the other time was the show previously).  That's a new addition to the set, very cool!

[MirrorMask]

So basically I got two rarities (Sahara and 7 Days to the Wolves) and are both songs I don't care for? 

I mean, it's not that I deeply dislike them or I think they suck, I'd just take She is My Sin and Ever Dream in a heartbeat over those two. And many other songs as well. It's not that I was bored through them, I just don't like them that much to the point of going "yaaaaaaaaay!!!!" the moment they start playing them.

[cramx3]

I like 7 Days, but similar to She is My Sin and Ever Dream, they've been played a lot so I would rather something different like Sahara personally.  No doubt Ever Dream is a top tier song though for me so hard to argue against it.  I just like how they added something fresh to the set this late into the tour. 

[Evermind]

Whoa whoa whoa, Sahara is not part of the normal setlist for this tour. I just looked it up, thats only the 2nd time they've played it since 2016 (the other time was the show previously).  That's a new addition to the set, very cool!

I was just about to contradict you because I saw Sahara played live fairly recently, the last time I saw Nightwish. Then I realized it was in 2015 for EFMB tour.

[cramx3]

  it is amazing though, sometimes I think back on concerts like it was just last year and then realize, no that was 2015.

[MirrorMask]

For those into this kind of thing (probably you Cram  ), someone filmed the entire Milan show and already uploaded it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv9OuV1Ihb0&t=3016s&ab_channel=FabioVi