Author Topic: Nightwish... (Read 317948 times)

fadetoblackdude7 · « **Reply #385 on:** December 29, 2011, 11:49:44 PM »

Quote from: 73109 on December 29, 2011, 06:19:58 PM

Why can't these dudes tour the US?

That's dudes and dudette*

? · « **Reply #386 on:** December 30, 2011, 03:23:22 AM »

I finally got Imaginaerum and have listened to it a few times. As I mentioned earlier, I'm not much of a NW fan anymore but was curious to hear this.

I think the album is pretty good but it's WAY too long - if the title-track, Storytime, Arabesque, Last Ride of the Day and the second half of Song of Myself were left out, this could be a solid album. There's still good stuff, though; my favorites are Rest Calm (which reminds me of Amorphis), Scaretale and Slow, Love, Slow. The more typical, safe NW songs didn't impress me that much but were ok. Another thing I have to criticize is that the guitars and drums aren't playing anything particularly interesting stuff, mostly power chords and basic rhythms, except on SLS. If there was no orchestra, these songs would sound quite hollow.

My album rating: 3/5

Ruba · « **Reply #387 on:** December 30, 2011, 12:17:05 PM »

Basically I know only Nemo, Amaranth, Master Passion Greed and Wishmaster, so I got today Century Child and Imaginaerum (2CD). I hope that I like them.

bosk1 · « **Reply #388 on:** December 30, 2011, 12:23:35 PM »

If you like Tarja's voice on Nemo and/or Wishmaster, you will probably like Century Child, as the songwriting is top notch.

Ruba · « **Reply #389 on:** December 30, 2011, 12:53:31 PM »

She has an awesome voice, but I prefer Anette.

Oh, I forgot Sleeping Sun. And Storytime.

bosk1 · « **Reply #390 on:** December 30, 2011, 12:54:39 PM »

Some people like her, and others are very put off by her. If you are not put off by her voice, I really think you will love CC. It is probably my favorite album of theirs, and I would consider it their most consistent.

fadetoblackdude7 · « **Reply #391 on:** December 30, 2011, 12:58:31 PM »

Century Child is indeed a great album. Sometimes I play it back-to-back with Once and it always makes Once sound even muddier than it already is lol. My favorite album is Dark Passion Play, can't live without it.

cramx3 · « **Reply #392 on:** December 30, 2011, 01:09:03 PM »

Century Child has my two favorite nightwish songs, beauty of the beast and ever dream, but I like once and wishmaster as better albums.

yorost · « **Reply #393 on:** December 30, 2011, 01:52:57 PM »

Quote from: 73109 on December 29, 2011, 06:19:58 PM

Why can't these dudes tour the US?

What? Since when don't they? I saw them in Atlanta on the DPP tour.

ThroughHerEyesDude6 · « **Reply #394 on:** December 30, 2011, 02:27:52 PM »

Quote from: yorost on December 30, 2011, 01:52:57 PM

Quote from: 73109 on December 29, 2011, 06:19:58 PM
Why can't these dudes tour the US?
What? Since when don't they? I saw them in Atlanta on the DPP tour.

me too. I saw them 3 times on that tour. they do tour the US, they just don't have their dates up yet. The album isn't even out in America yet. So give it time.

@Bosk1, You are correct on CC being topnotch material. if they had continued with that musical style I would have been in a Nightwish hole for the rest of my life. But Wishmaster, Once and DPP are also great albums in comparison (leaving out production and likewise comparisons).

Elaitch · « **Reply #395 on:** December 30, 2011, 03:04:30 PM »

Quote from: ThroughHerEyesDude6 on December 30, 2011, 02:27:52 PM

The album isn't even out in America yet. So give it time.

Oh right

You're in for a treat, I can promise you that much.

73109 · « **Reply #396 on:** December 30, 2011, 06:37:53 PM »

When I said why can't they tour America...I kinda meant now.

jingle.boy · « **Reply #397 on:** December 31, 2011, 08:47:26 AM »

Quote from: bosk1 on December 30, 2011, 12:23:35 PM

If you like Tarja's voice on Nemo and/or Wishmaster, you will probably like Century Child, as the songwriting is top notch.

I'll continue to sayz it ... Century Child is the best them. No question. They're most balanced album (with Tarja).

Elaitch · « **Reply #398 on:** January 02, 2012, 09:44:23 AM »

Quote from: jingle.boy on December 31, 2011, 08:47:26 AM

Quote from: bosk1 on December 30, 2011, 12:23:35 PM
If you like Tarja's voice on Nemo and/or Wishmaster, you will probably like Century Child, as the songwriting is top notch.

I'll continue to sayz it ... Century Child is the best them. No question. They're most balanced album (with Tarja).

What about Once?

jingle.boy · « **Reply #399 on:** January 02, 2012, 11:02:21 AM »

Quote from: Elaitch on January 02, 2012, 09:44:23 AM

Quote from: jingle.boy on December 31, 2011, 08:47:26 AM
Quote from: bosk1 on December 30, 2011, 12:23:35 PM
If you like Tarja's voice on Nemo and/or Wishmaster, you will probably like Century Child, as the songwriting is top notch.

I'll continue to sayz it ... Century Child is the best them. No question. They're most balanced album (with Tarja).

What about Once?

Once is very, very good; Century Child is great.

yorost · « **Reply #400 on:** January 06, 2012, 01:10:42 PM »

Quote from: jingle.boy on January 02, 2012, 11:02:21 AM

Quote from: Elaitch on January 02, 2012, 09:44:23 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on December 31, 2011, 08:47:26 AM
Quote from: bosk1 on December 30, 2011, 12:23:35 PM
If you like Tarja's voice on Nemo and/or Wishmaster, you will probably like Century Child, as the songwriting is top notch.
I'll continue to sayz it ... Century Child is the best them. No question. They're most balanced album (with Tarja).
What about Once?
Once is very, very good; Century Child is great.

Ranking spree time?

Wishmaster
Once
Century Child
Dark Passion Play
Oceanborn
Angles Fall First

ThroughHerEyesDude6 · « **Reply #401 on:** January 07, 2012, 01:45:04 AM »

I think I'll update mine, the list keeps changing from time to time, but the top slot never changes:

Century Child
Wishmaster
Once
Dark Passion Play
Oceanborn
Angels Fall First

I have no idea where Imaginaerum sits until I get the fucker on tuesday.

cramx3 · « **Reply #402 on:** January 07, 2012, 10:20:47 AM »

Once
Wishmaster
Century child
Imaginearum
Oceanborn
Dark passion play
Angels fall first

Please note that imaginearum, oceanborn, and dark passion play are fairly interchangeable in those spots.

fadetoblackdude7 · « **Reply #403 on:** January 07, 2012, 03:06:30 PM »

Dark Passion Play
Imaginaerum
Century Child
Once
Wishmaster
Oceanborn
Angels Fall First

Vahvahenki · « **Reply #404 on:** January 07, 2012, 03:50:44 PM »

Oceanborn

Century Child
Once
Wishmaster

Imaginaerum
Dark Passion Play
Angels Fall First

cramx3 · « **Reply #405 on:** January 07, 2012, 03:52:55 PM »

Quote from: fadetoblackdude7 on January 07, 2012, 03:06:30 PM

Dark Passion Play
Imaginaerum
Century Child
Once
Wishmaster
Oceanborn
Angels Fall First

Someone loves Annette

Zook · « **Reply #406 on:** January 07, 2012, 05:10:58 PM »

Quote from: cramx3 on January 07, 2012, 03:52:55 PM

Quote from: fadetoblackdude7 on January 07, 2012, 03:06:30 PM
Dark Passion Play
Imaginaerum
Century Child
Once
Wishmaster
Oceanborn
Angels Fall First

Someone loves Annette

Is that a problem?

cramx3 · « **Reply #407 on:** January 07, 2012, 05:21:29 PM »

Quote from: Zook on January 07, 2012, 05:10:58 PM

Quote from: cramx3 on January 07, 2012, 03:52:55 PM
Quote from: fadetoblackdude7 on January 07, 2012, 03:06:30 PM
Dark Passion Play
Imaginaerum
Century Child
Once
Wishmaster
Oceanborn
Angels Fall First

Someone loves Annette

Is that a problem?

Nope, an observation thats all. I like Annette as well.

Zook · « **Reply #408 on:** January 07, 2012, 05:25:42 PM »

Quote from: cramx3 on January 07, 2012, 05:21:29 PM

Quote from: Zook on January 07, 2012, 05:10:58 PM
Quote from: cramx3 on January 07, 2012, 03:52:55 PM
Quote from: fadetoblackdude7 on January 07, 2012, 03:06:30 PM
Dark Passion Play
Imaginaerum
Century Child
Once
Wishmaster
Oceanborn
Angels Fall First

Someone loves Annette

Is that a problem?

Nope, an observation thats all. I like Annette as well.

Me too. Imaginaerum might be my favorite album of theirs. I like her Alyson Avenue stuff too. The first album more so.

Elaitch · « **Reply #409 on:** January 07, 2012, 05:33:13 PM »

Imaginaerum
Once
Century Child
Dark Passion Play
Wishmaster
Oceanborn
Angels Fall First

I think Imaginaerum is the freakin' beast, followed close by Once... and I have a special kind of love for Nightwish with live orchestra as well.

fadetoblackdude7 · « **Reply #410 on:** January 08, 2012, 01:53:57 AM »

Quote from: cramx3 on January 07, 2012, 03:52:55 PM

Quote from: fadetoblackdude7 on January 07, 2012, 03:06:30 PM
Dark Passion Play
Imaginaerum
Century Child
Once
Wishmaster
Oceanborn
Angels Fall First

Someone loves Annette

I actually love both singers equally. I just like the direction they're going in musically right now.

73109 · « **Reply #411 on:** January 08, 2012, 12:12:35 PM »

I think Imaginaerum is by and large the best album to come out of 2011, even though admittedly it is not coming out in the US for a few more days. I would be happy if Nightwish just played this entire album and walked off the stage.

Gadough · « **Reply #412 on:** January 08, 2012, 03:34:47 PM »

I think it's so painfully stupid that the record company decides to release the album over a month late in the US. It's like they want people to illegally download the album. I just don't understand it.

ThroughHerEyesDude6 · « **Reply #413 on:** January 09, 2012, 01:57:22 AM »

Wouldn't it be funny if this turned out to be a psychological test, and we're the subjects?
"The long-term and short-term effects of differing release dates between European and American 'fanbases' in the heavy metal community", or "Suck it, America" for short.

blackngold29 · « **Reply #414 on:** January 09, 2012, 04:40:35 PM »

Loving Imaginaerum. Seems to be the perfect balance of pushing into new territory ("Slow, Love, Slow" and "Song of Myself") and the traditional Nightwish sound ("I Want My Tears Back" and "Storytime"). Really excited to see the movie.

Elaitch · « **Reply #415 on:** January 10, 2012, 07:20:33 AM »

Quote from: blackngold29 on January 09, 2012, 04:40:35 PM

Loving Imaginaerum. Seems to be the perfect balance of pushing into new territory ("Slow, Love, Slow" and "Song of Myself") and the traditional Nightwish sound ("I Want My Tears Back" and "Storytime"). Really excited to see the movie.

So I reckon the album is now released in the US? About time

I don't think the album lacks a bad song. They're all beautifully pulled off and put together, I think. The only thing that bugs me is that they put the title track, which is in my opinion more of an overture, last on the album; I think it should've been the album opener. I saw a track-by-track video with Tuomas where he described it as a "song for the credits" (somewhat paraphrasing since I don't remember his exact words)... and well, can't say I agree with that.

Otherwise, I love it. I think it is their best album to date.

yorost · « **Reply #416 on:** January 10, 2012, 12:08:33 PM »

If you agree with "song for the credits," then why wouldn't you agree with it being last?

TimelessSymphony · « **Reply #417 on:** January 10, 2012, 02:32:30 PM »

Well to be honest i really like Anette's vocals on Imaginaerium since it was an amazing album

her highlights would probably be: Storytime, Scaretale, Song for My Self, Last Ride of The Day and this album would be my favorite of nightwish

.. They did an amazing job so far!!.. hopefully they will do an American Tour this year or next year so i can see them :]!!..

ThroughHerEyesDude6 · « **Reply #418 on:** January 11, 2012, 04:57:36 AM »

I think the point he is trying to make is that although it is a nice way to end the album, it should have stood more for an overture than an ending credit score.

bosk1 · « **Reply #419 on:** January 11, 2012, 11:16:15 AM »

Picked this up last night and listened to the first six tracks. Am spinning it again now. Interesting. I already like it more than DPP. One thing I noticed right off the bat, which I called from the very first time I heard DPP: Unlike the last album, it is clear that these songs are written with Anette's voice in mind, which makes the vocal parts fit better with the music and takes this album up a notch right off the bat. I will also say that Tuomas is really a very good song writer. I may not always like or agree with his artistic choices, but I have to admit that he is incredibly talented in the writing department. More commentary after I've listened a bit more...

News: Track-by-track video for Untethered Angel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Co1_h0GtAw

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