Genesis Appreciation/Discussion

[Lolzeez]

Anyone else here like the Genesis Archives live show of the lamb lies down more than the original? It just feels more powerful with less weird effects. In fact, I deleted the studio version of the lamb off my iPod because I just enjoy the live recording so much more. Anyone else get that feeling or am I insane?

Me too! I'm not even a big fan of the album but that live show is nothing short of awesome!

[SomeoneLikeHim]

I like both about equally I guess. The archives version has a bit more power though.

[Sketchy]

I love both, but that live version rocks so damn hard. For a while after hearing it, it took me ages to get back into the original, but I do love that still too.

[Tom Bombadil]

I love both, but that live version rocks so damn hard. For a while after hearing it, it took me ages to get back into the original, but I do love that still too.

Yeah I'm not saying the original is bad, but whenever I listen to it I think "I'd rather be listening to the live version right now" ^^

[Sketchy]

Yar, I know that feel exactly. It's just slightly freer and just feels like the loud bits are allowed to go all-out. Fly On A Windshield especially is brilliant as a live song.

[Tom Bombadil]

Yar, I know that feel exactly. It's just slightly freer and just feels like the loud bits are allowed to go all-out. Fly On A Windshield especially is brilliant as a live song.

Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way

[snowdog]

I like both for what they are.  Genesis always was an awesome live band.  Phil's drumming especially sounded better after he had worked with the songs for a while.  I would love a full recording of that show with the original vocals though.  I understand Gabriel adding them where the costumes got in the way.  But there are other cases where he changed them just because he didn't like them (Back In NYC for instance).

The other thing technological issue the live shows had in the 70s was the lack of a real piano (or something that sounded like one).  Other than that I love their live sound.

[ytserush]

Listened to a couple of vintage shows with Bruford over the weekend.

There are times when I think it was the best Genesis lineup ever.

[TheGreatPretender]

I've only heard a handful of songs by Genesis, but I've been meaning to explore more. Where should I start?

[Tom Bombadil]

I've only heard a handful of songs by Genesis, but I've been meaning to explore more. Where should I start?

In my opinion, the best Genesis you'll find is from Foxtrot, Nursery Crime , and Selling England By the Pound. Those three albums are near perfect. Also good are The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Trespass, Trick of the Tail, and Wind & Wuthering. After that the albums start to get a little to poppy for my taste. If you're exploring Genesis for the prog side of things, definitely go with the first three I mentioned. You won't be disappointed!

[Unlegit]

Pretty much all the albums with Peter Gabriel are prog masterpieces (after Trespass, but even that is solid), and the first two albums with Phil Collins as lead singer are also really good. After that, they do get more poppy, but I still really do enjoy all of those albums, aside from the last one. Even if you aren't necessarily into "pop", you still may enjoy quite a few songs off those albums.

[Mosh]

For the Gabriel era, I started with Selling England By The Pound. It really was the best choice, since it covers the gamut of what that lineup did musically.

[SomeoneLikeHim]

The lamb is my favorite, but don't start with that. Much better to start with Nursery, Foxtrot or Selling.

[Lolzeez]

And Then There Were Three is so underrated it hurts. To me,that album is up there with Wind And Wuthering.

[Moonchild]

nah.. It's a mess of keyboards.

Although I like Many Too Many

[SomeoneLikeHim]

It's a good album but still my least favorite of the pre-abacab albums (not counting FGTR).

[toro]

I've been on a Genesis kick lately.
I've been listening to Duke a lot, so then I said: "Fuck it let's play some Lamb".

I fell in love with it all over again.

[Tom Bombadil]

And Then There Were Three is so underrated it hurts. To me,that album is up there with Wind And Wuthering.

I should probably give it another try. My first listen was long time ago and I was like "this sounds nothing like SEPTP" and so I never explored it further. I'll have to give it a shot.

[Orbert]

I thought I'd let you all know that I've listed the first two Genesis Box Sets (1970-1975 and 1976-1982) on eBay.



Both boxes are the remastered CDs plus 5.1 DVD-Audio versions, plus the booklet and extras for each.  The first box is therefore 13 discs (The Lamb is a double CD, but single DVD-A) and the second box is 12 discs.

I've literally played each disc once.  Everything's in excellent, "like new" condition.

Starting bid for each is $80.  I have no idea how this will go.  Never sold anything on Ebay before.  Seller is "Orbertus" ("Orbert" was taken").

[The King in Crimson]

If I hadn't just spent a buncha money on music recently, I'd be all over the second one (1976-1982).

[Nel_Annette]

They're really nice box sets too. I still want the live one though. Never bought it.

[Jaq]

If I didn't already own these...

Hope you find a buyer for them, Orbert

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

Sometimes I think the best thing Gabriel ever did was leave and pursue a solo career.

It was. 

Am I the only one who prefers Foxtrot to Selling England?

Nope. I think Selling England is the weakest Gabriel era Genesis album aside from the debut and Foxtrot is one of my favourite albums.

[ColdFireYYZ]

Foxtrot is either my favorite or second favorite Gabriel album (the other one being Nursery Cryme). I do love Selling England though.

[rumborak]

Watching this concert right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbNo14hMuU8

Just plain amazing.

[Jaq]

Oh yeah I'll be all over that when I've got a couple of hours handy. 

[Outcrier]

I've only heard a handful of songs by Genesis, but I've been meaning to explore more. Where should I start?

Some songs: The Knife, Cinema Show, In The Cage, Return of the Giant Hogweed, Supper's Ready, Firth of Fifth, Dance on a Volcano

[rumborak]

That's only Gabriel-era though. Domino is an excellent tune, so is Duke's Travels and Second Home By The Sea.

[Lolzeez]

Home By The Sea + Second Home By The Sea are the best post Gabriel-era songs imo. Today at least. 

[Phoenix87x]

Fly on a windshield 

[SomeoneLikeHim]

If the duke suite was released as one song it would be in my Genesis top 5.

[rumborak]

You know, I can't think of a single Genesis instrumental I don't like.
And what's even more interesting, they have exactly the same musical lineup as DT, their instrumentals were never cluttered. Banks was often perfectly content to play a single melody line, and Hackett would just play a single guitar bend to accentuate a chord.

[SomeoneLikeHim]

You know, I can't think of a single Genesis instrumental I don't like.
And what's even more interesting, they have exactly the same musical lineup as DT, their instrumentals were never cluttered. Banks was often perfectly content to play a single melody line, and Hackett would just play a single guitar bend to accentuate a chord.

The waiting room?

[Nel_Annette]

Home By The Sea + Second Home By The Sea are the best post Gabriel-era songs imo. Today at least. 

Sometimes yes.  Sometimes it's Mama.

...The s/t is in my top 3 Genesis albums. 

[Outcrier]

That's only Gabriel-era though. Domino is an excellent tune, so is Duke's Travels and Second Home By The Sea.

Didn't bother exploring much of the post Gabriel era as i didn't liked Trick of Tail that much (and i even don't listen too much to classic Genesis already).