DT Biography, Lifting Shadows Discussion

[The Silent Cody]

I've founded one on polish Ebay, but the price went so crazy that I just couldn't afford that... 

The craziest thing was that it was on Amazon for $20 dollars (plus shipping) and in "like New" condition. Its seemed too good to be true, but here it is.  I don't think the seller knew what he had on his hands.

Lucky one books are expensive in Poland, more than CD's or DVD's, so it will be very hard to find one for me

[ZirconBlue]

Maybe they'll come out with a Kindle edition some day.

[Nofire]

Maybe this topic has been covered several times, and if so I apologize, but why don't they print more books when there obviously is a demand for them? I want to read it so badly! 

[Madman Shepherd]

For the same reason the Trapeze CD "Welcome to the Real World" is selling for 80-120 bucks.  There is a select group of diehards that are willing to pay that much (I paid 45 bucks for mine), but the vast majority of people wouldn't even spend 10 bucks on it. 

For what its worth, I think the book would have respectable sales at certain retail stores but its just a matter of convincing a publishing company with good distribution the same thing.  On that same token, they might distribute but say it should be cut down by 100-200 pages which isn't worth it.

[fibreoptix]

Well I'll tell you this much. I'm going to be all over the next batch.

[Phoenix87x]

Just finished the book.

It was quite informative and one of the most satisfying reads I have ever experienced.

[Rich Wilson]

Thanks for that. Currently trying to put together and update for the publishers. They were always going to issue this as a paperback, so I figured I should at least update the story to cover the developments over the last year or so!

[BlobVanDam]

Why? What's happened over the last year or so?








Should be a great update.

[robwebster]

Thanks for that. Currently trying to put together and update for the publishers. They were always going to issue this as a paperback, so I figured I should at least update the story to cover the developments over the last year or so!

Dear me - good luck with that, I don't envy you in the slightest! Bloody brilliant book, but the sheer volume of words... the number of counts of the word "drummer" you'll have to amend alone must be astronomical. Then reworking the BC&SL chapter - seem to remember it ended on an "onwards and upwards" kind of note, originally, didn't it?

How long have you been working on it? Or, scheduled to continue? Are you doing further interviews, at all?

(...How many words do you know? Is it spelt "smurfs" or "smurves?" How do you say "I love you" in italian? Are we there yet?)

[snapple]

Well, I HAVE to get this version.

[Rich Wilson]

It is a fairly big job. Basically the intro and ending need completely changing, the BC&SL chapter needs to be edited down (it's too large). Likely the "Side Projects" chapter will have to disappear for the same reason of size. I have interviewed all the guys at various points over the last 18 months or so for features for Classic Rock Presents Prog and much of those interviews weren't used due to size. So I've got plenty of new material to work with. In theory it shouldn't take too long, but I'm nuts deep into writing a book on another prog band, so it's a bit of a juggling job . . .

[Hprog]

Why? What's happened over the last year or so?

LOL

I have the book and I've read it twice.

Rich, don't you think it might be better to wait a bit to see what else develops? (Grammy and so on). Also considering how Mike Portnoy always "updates" the story, not just with his words but his actions, a new edition might have to change a lot after only a few months. Just my 2 cents. Anyway, if you update it, I will be glad to read the new edition!

[chknptpie]

I haven't seen any version of Lifting Shadows, but with all the recent developments I'll look into getting the latest edition when it comes out!

[Rich Wilson]

It's difficult as there will always be updates to the story. But as they are going to put it out anyway, I think it's right to update it as I do still regularly receive emails from people wanting to buy it and it wouldn't be right for people to buy something that is so woefully out of date.

[Jarzombek]

I have the first edition, my name is there and the book was autographed by portnoy/petruccy/rudess/myung/labrie. I will buy an updated version when Portnoy rejoin the band.

[TL]

I have the first edition, my name is there and the book was autographed by portnoy/petruccy/rudess/myung/labrie. I will buy an updated version when Portnoy rejoin the band.

So you're never going to buy an updated version then?

Rich, I don't know what the 'Side Projects' chapter currently includes, but that sounds like something worth keeping for future editions. I originally decided to buy the book literally days before Mike announced he was leaving, and at that point decided to wait for the next edition, since it will no doubt have a lot of additions.

I do look forward to the next version, whenever it comes out.

[snapple]

It's difficult as there will always be updates to the story. But as they are going to put it out anyway, I think it's right to update it as I do still regularly receive emails from people wanting to buy it and it wouldn't be right for people to buy something that is so woefully out of date.

Will there be revealing stuff that we may not be privy to without purchase of the book? I'm getting married and will be hard pressed to afford another copy.

Also, love the use of  "balls deep" in your other post.

[Zukuduku]

Excellent news! I barely missed ordering the previous edition before it went out of stock. I checked at work that it was still possible to order, but when I arrived home to make the order, it had been sold out. So as soon as the book hits the market, I will finally get to read the story of the band in detail.

So many thanks for still working on the book.

[Dr. DTVT]

I'm nuts deep into writing a book on another prog band, so it's a bit of a juggling job . . .

Mind divulging which band?

[ZirconBlue]

I'm nuts deep into writing a book on another prog band, so it's a bit of a juggling job . . .

Mind divulging which band?

If his answer is a simple "Yes.", you won't know if he means the band, or if he does mind. 

[Rich Wilson]

Can't tell you just yet - things still a bit up in the air . . .

[theseoafs]

I know what it is guize

Can't tell you just yet - things still a bit up in the air . . .

Up in the air? Like a PLANE?

If you go to Wikipedia and type in "plane", it brings up a disambiguation page.

The first page listed is Fixed-wing aircraft. If we list the hyperlinked words in the first sentence, we have: aircraft, flight, wings, lift, and airspeed. 3 of these words have a T in them. The other 2 have an "S" in them, which is for "Search for planes", but we already did that so we can ignore it. But what does the T stand for?

The second page listed is Plane (tool).

T IS FOR TOOL.

To confirm this, look at the third and fourth results: Platanus and Acer Pseudoplatanus.

Platanus? Lateralus.

Acer Pseudoplatanus? Aenima pseudo Lateralus.

So it's Tool, probably. If it's not Tool, it's Yes. How do I know?

Can't tell you just yet - things still a bit up in the air . . .

YET. Take out the "T" for Tool and you get "Ye", for "Yes".

[Jamariquay]

Cocaine is one hell of a drug.

[Rob24]

I know what it is guize

Can't tell you just yet - things still a bit up in the air . . .

Up in the air? Like a PLANE?

If you go to Wikipedia and type in "plane", it brings up a disambiguation page.

The first page listed is Fixed-wing aircraft. If we list the hyperlinked words in the first sentence, we have: aircraft, flight, wings, lift, and airspeed. 3 of these words have a T in them. The other 2 have an "S" in them, which is for "Search for planes", but we already did that so we can ignore it. But what does the T stand for?

The second page listed is Plane (tool).

T IS FOR TOOL.

To confirm this, look at the third and fourth results: Platanus and Acer Pseudoplatanus.

Platanus? Lateralus.

Acer Pseudoplatanus? Aenima pseudo Lateralus.

So it's Tool, probably. If it's not Tool, it's Yes. How do I know?

Can't tell you just yet - things still a bit up in the air . . .

YET. Take out the "T" for Tool and you get "Ye", for "Yes".

This is EXACTLY how some Tool fans interpret their lyrics. 

[Rich Wilson]

I admire the Da Vinci Code style attempt at guessing the band!!

Not Tool or Yes though - nice try!

[King Postwhore]

 

I guess I stop the hunt for the elusive white 355 Howard Roberts guitar then.

[OsMosis2259]

Was just on the website checking some stuff out (extracts etc). Any updates on when or if this is going to be released again?

Would love to read about the band in more detail.

[Gadough]

Yeah, still waiting for this. Still plan on buying it as soon as it's available.

Hurry up, Mr. Wilson.

No rush.

[snapple]

breakin' my balls here, Rich

[Implode]

...for the next edition.

[DTFan0789]

An e-book edition of this for my Nook would be a dream come true.

[TheGreatPretender]

An e-book edition of this for my Nook would be a dream come true.

If it came in e-book form, I would GET a Nook, or Kindle, or whatever the hell, JUST for it.

[MoraWintersoul]

I try not to think about how much I want this edition to hurry; I missed the last one by, hm, not knowing about it  really really anxious to get it and read it.

[wasteland]

[DreamerTV]