DT Biography, Lifting Shadows Discussion

[TheGreatPretender]

Clockwork Angels was made my second favorite Rush album. Power Windows is my favorite, and the fact that they played so much of it this tour made very very happy. Rush has said themselves that they are not a nostalgia act, and that if they did do a nostalgic tour, it would most likely be their LAST.

In my opinion, I feel as though most of Rush's albums are great because I usually never want to skip any of the tracks. Rush tends to be very good at making an entire album very strong. I would never skip a track going through Power Windows, as I love every song. Same goes for A Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres, Permanent Waves, Grace Under Pressure, Counterparts, and Vapor Trails (REMIX COMING OUT OCTOBER 1ST  )

Dream Theater, however, finds me skipping many tracks. (on WDADU, Awake, FII especially, SDOIT, ToT, and SC.)

Well that's, just, like, your opinion, man.

[Sycsa]

I'm only buying this if it comes out in an online/kindle version, because I've never trusted buying things online and trusting them to find their way to your doorstep without having your credit card number stolen and/or some other unpleasant thing happening.

I trust Amazon, I don't trust whoever the author of this novel is. The main thing I don't trust is actually getting something that you pay for online.

I'm now not buying the book because the author holds a terrible opinion about Rush.

These are the most ridiculous comments I've read here for quite a while. Are you serious?

[OsMosis2259]

Really excited to begin reading the book. Hopefully it ships out soon!

[XB0BX]

These are the most ridiculous comments I've read here for quite a while. Are you serious?

Dead serious. I'm not buying a novel written by a credit card-stealing, Kindle-hating, Rush-despising communist.

[wasteland]

These are the most ridiculous comments I've read here for quite a while. Are you serious?

Dead serious. I'm not buying a novel written by a credit card-stealing, Kindle-hating, Rush-despising communist.

I think you might have forgotten children-eating. 

[hefdaddy42]

These are the most ridiculous comments I've read here for quite a while. Are you serious?

Dead serious. I'm not buying a novel written by a credit card-stealing, Kindle-hating, Rush-despising communist.

Watch your tone and language.  The author is a member here and this qualifies as a personal attack.

[Shadow2222]

These are the most ridiculous comments I've read here for quite a while. Are you serious?

Dead serious. I'm not buying a novel written by a credit card-stealing, Kindle-hating, Rush-despising communist.

Rich Wilson, as hefdaddy pointed out, is a member here, and has been very active in keeping in contact with the fans, both here, and on the Lifting Shadows Facebook page. I have bought both previous editions of the book, and never had a problem. I do not see where all of this hate came from.

[KevShmev]

Yeah, seriously.  Even though his comment about Rush in that interview was way off, there is still no need for that kind of bile being thrown at him. 

[Madman Shepherd]

I hope its a joke...even so, probably goes to far for a joke. 

This just goes to show you though, that it is never a good idea to speak in terms of absolutes for opinions...especially when you're a public figure like Rich.  People will pick it apart like crazy. 

Still love the guy though. 

Edit: Neglected to include the word "pick"

[hefdaddy42]

This is also not a thread about Rush.

[TheGreatPretender]

This just goes to show you though, that it is never a good idea to speak in terms of absolutes for opinions...especially when you're a public figure like Rich.  People will it apart like crazy. 

He should have known that by saying something like that about Rush, he'd get branded a credit card thief. Logic!

[Madman Shepherd]

This just goes to show you though, that it is never a good idea to speak in terms of absolutes for opinions...especially when you're a public figure like Rich.  People will it apart like crazy. 

He should have known that by saying something like that about Rush, he'd get branded a credit card thief. Logic!

Haha.  Identity theft is no laughing matter!!!!   

[ZirconBlue]

I trust Amazon, I don't trust whoever the author of this novel is. The main thing I don't trust is actually getting something that you pay for online.

Are you a time traveler from 1997?

[goo-goo]

August is nearing its end so I hope this thing ships a bit earlier.

[countoftuscany42]

is the preorder discount still available? i hadnt ordered it yet because of some money/card issues, but still definitely planning to get it

[Nofire]

is the preorder discount still available? i hadnt ordered it yet because of some money/card issues, but still definitely planning to get it

I ordered it a few days ago and got the discount.

[Virtualman64]

I preordered the paperback edition.I don't remember if was there a estimated ship date.Anybody know anything?Thanks.

[cramx3]

Just saw DT post about this on facebook and forgot I wanted to order the paperback edition after I moved and that was like 6 monthes ago.  So I just ordered it.  Should be a fantastic read.

[lucky7]

So any reviews from anyone who purchased the new edition with update regarding MP leaving and MM joining?

I have the first one and the one released just before MP left, just wondering if I should? 

[seasonsinthesky]

So any reviews from anyone who purchased the new edition with update regarding MP leaving and MM joining?

I have the first one and the one released just before MP left, just wondering if I should? 

if you followed press with the changeover, there's nothing new to learn from the book. it's a good summary if you didn't, though, and it's pretty good at mentioning but not detailing MP's more buffoonish behaviour at the time.

[lucky7]

Thanks for that.    Would have purchased it either way, just found it strange no one had posted anything after the new release.
We all remember MP at the time....I was even blocked from his site and still have no idea why...if anything I was more positive than most.

[cramx3]

I can't believe I left my book on a plane. So pissed at myself. And I just left another book on a plane last week. I have a bad habit.

[JayOctavarium]

SOMEBODY STOP LEAVING THESE MOTHER EFFING BOOKS ON THESE MOTHER EFFING PLANES!!

[cramx3]

 

Going to have to buy another copy at some point because I was enjoying the read and I only got up the the recording of I&W

[Zydar]

SOMEBODY STOP LEAVING THESE MOTHER EFFING BOOKS ON THESE MOTHER EFFING PLANES!!

[rumborak]

So any reviews from anyone who purchased the new edition with update regarding MP leaving and MM joining?

I have the first one and the one released just before MP left, just wondering if I should? 

if you followed press with the changeover, there's nothing new to learn from the book. it's a good summary if you didn't, though, and it's pretty good at mentioning but not detailing MP's more buffoonish behaviour at the time.

It's also still way too early for getting anything that isn't publicly known. I read the first edition of the book, and you could divide it into two parts essentially: The "past" , which included a lot of interesting dirt, and the "happy-family present", where every band member was content, nothing was going wrong, nobody wanted to leave, bla bla bla ..  and a few months later MP leaves the band.
I would think the newest edition of the book will have the same thing. They dare not disclose anything that might get them into trouble, so it will stick to stuff that is widely known.

[cramx3]

So any reviews from anyone who purchased the new edition with update regarding MP leaving and MM joining?

I have the first one and the one released just before MP left, just wondering if I should? 

if you followed press with the changeover, there's nothing new to learn from the book. it's a good summary if you didn't, though, and it's pretty good at mentioning but not detailing MP's more buffoonish behaviour at the time.

It's also still way too early for getting anything that isn't publicly known. I read the first edition of the book, and you could divide it into two parts essentially: The "past" , which included a lot of interesting dirt, and the "happy-family present", where every band member was content, nothing was going wrong, nobody wanted to leave, bla bla bla ..  and a few months later MP leaves the band.
I would think the newest edition of the book will have the same thing. They dare not disclose anything that might get them into trouble, so it will stick to stuff that is widely known.

Good point.  Its usually that way with everything, all the dirty details get released in a book many many years later.  Maybe there will be a third edition that has all that fun.

[lucky7]

^^Good Points. I figure by now Rich Wilson has moved onto another artist. He used to post either on here or MP.com all the time.
It must have been a little disheartening to release two releases a leather bound book and the paperback and no sooner published a founding member leaves the band, and yes he did publish an update with the pc split information.
It sounded like a labour of love for him, and I figure not every fan purchased a copy of either edition be it for the reason they don't read, too expensive etc.  I think at this point even ten years away we would be lucky to receive a new edition. I hope we do, just saying......

[Rich Wilson]

I've not checked in here for a while now - I've been too busy writing a book on Lenin 

I can't see me releasing another printed version of the book. I've already had to defend the release of this version! It was only ever released for those people who didn't get the original versions, and intended as a cheaper way for people to get hold of a copy instead of paying $$$ on Amazon. I had added the update chapters really because I felt that was the right thing to do (as I knew there would be a few people who buy everything DT related even if they had the previous editions). The only thing I might do is pop it out on Kindle in a couple of years - again for people that don't have a copy.

Apart from popping down the docks and meeting with my comrades to plot the overthrowing of this capitalist, credit card loving government, I have been writing a book on another prog band which I'm just completing. Should be out early next year. I can't reveal who just yet, but I will when I can.

[Zydar]

Apart from popping down the docks and meeting with my comrades to plot the overthrowing of this capitalist, credit card loving government, I have been writing a book on another prog band which I'm just completing. Should be out early next year. I can't reveal who just yet, but I will when I can.

Sounds exciting!

[lucky7]

^^^^Great news Rich, just ordered a copy of the new edition earlier this morning ( it is after 7pm Fri in Aussie land)  I noticed there was one on Ebay that was more expensive than direct and it had heaps of watchers...why do people avoid going direct?!

I am sure it has been said before but Thank you so much for writing Lifting Shadows...it is a great read for any fan. 

After your nest prog band book, feel free to start a book on Steve Vai (my wish!) 

[ZirconBlue]

(as I knew there would be a few people who buy everything DT related even if they had the previous editions).

I don't buy everything DT related, but I did buy all 3 editions of Lifting Shadows.

[TheGreatPretender]

(as I knew there would be a few people who buy everything DT related even if they had the previous editions).

I don't buy everything DT related, but I did buy all 3 editions of Lifting Shadows.

At the time when they came out I hope. Because if you bought one of the earlier editions recently... I don't envy your bank account.

[ZirconBlue]

(as I knew there would be a few people who buy everything DT related even if they had the previous editions).

I don't buy everything DT related, but I did buy all 3 editions of Lifting Shadows.

At the time when they came out I hope. Because if you bought one of the earlier editions recently... I don't envy your bank account.

Yes, as they came out.   

[YtseJamittaja]

I finally ordered my copy of Lifting Shadows!! I don't read books at all but this one is really interesting so I have to read it. I'm excited but don't have time to read it until the summer because I have so much school work.