Ayreon/Arjen Lucassen Thread (Star Three on the way)

[Big Hath]

I love that guy.  His enthusiasm is contagious.   


(I also like the art on the walls:  there was a Beatles poster, and Zeppelin IV and Hemispheres album covers.  I didn't get the other two, though the one between Zep and Rush seems familiar.)

The right side is:

IV
Billion Dollar Babies
Hemispheres
Moonmadness

[Stadler]

Dammit.  I should have gotten BDB. 

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

New Star One, bring it on Arjen! 

[kirksnosehair]

I'm down with a new Star One album as long as he doesn't do it in the same style as the last Ayreon album, all that spoken dialog ruins it for me. 

[Grappler]

 

[SwedishGoose]

Anyone have the Downloaded PDF of Transitus lyrics?

I have the Earbook myself but a friend just bought the CD version and Arjens link is not valid znymore.

[jingle.boy]

Anyone have the Downloaded PDF of Transitus lyrics?

I have the Earbook myself but a friend just bought the CD version and Arjens link is not valid znymore.

Yes.

[Ben_Jamin]

Anyone have the Downloaded PDF of Transitus lyrics?

I have the Earbook myself but a friend just bought the CD version and Arjens link is not valid znymore.

I am sure Arjen will send it himself, if you were to message him. He's pretty nice about things, and is probably unaware that the link isn't working anymore.

[Nick]

Interesting approach to the new Star One, not saying I'm opposed, but I agree with Chad that the multi singer approach was pretty critical to those first two albums and it'll be a big change. That said I think this is the only way he could do it without the obvious FU to Russell Allen when the entire rest of the cast returns and he's replaced with someone.

[jingle.boy]

Interesting approach to the new Star One, not saying I'm opposed, but I agree with Chad that the multi singer approach was pretty critical to those first two albums and it'll be a big change. That said I think this is the only way he could do it without the obvious FU to Russell Allen when the entire rest of the cast returns and he's replaced with someone.

Not that Russell doesn't necessarily deserve an FU for the FU he gave Arjen.  But, Arjen ain't that kind of guy.

[Ben_Jamin]

Interesting approach to the new Star One, not saying I'm opposed, but I agree with Chad that the multi singer approach was pretty critical to those first two albums and it'll be a big change. That said I think this is the only way he could do it without the obvious FU to Russell Allen when the entire rest of the cast returns and he's replaced with someone.

Why would it be an FU to Allen if Allen was invited to be on Arjens project? Was Allen told that he would forever be a part of the cast of singers on all Star One releases? Or are all the singers on an at-will basis, where they can be replaced if for any reason, including if the creator(Arjen) decides to change it up?

[kirksnosehair]

I'm sorry if it's already been posted but who did Arjen say was doing vocals for the new Star One?

[The Letter M]

I'm sorry if it's already been posted but who did Arjen say was doing vocals for the new Star One?

AFAIK, nothing has been revealed yet, as he will dole out information about personnel in his usual guessing-game format.

-Marc.

[kirksnosehair]

So right now it's all speculation that he's only going to have one vocalist?

[Ben_Jamin]

I'm sorry if it's already been posted but who did Arjen say was doing vocals for the new Star One?

AFAIK, nothing has been revealed yet, as he will dole out information about personnel in his usual guessing-game format.

-Marc.

This makes the Russel Allen speculation funnier now. 

[kirksnosehair]

Well, knowing Arjen's reputation as a "nice guy" and given that time heals all most some wounds, maybe he'll invite Russell to be on this new Star One album after all?  You know, sort of taking the high road for the sake of the project, but if you ask me that dude he brought in to replace Russell Allen in those live shows John Jaycee something...is a very solid vocalist in the same vein as Allen.  He even sounds a little like Allen.  I'd be fine with him instead of Allen.

[Adami]

So right now it's all speculation that he's only going to have one vocalist?

I might be wrong but I think he confirmed many vocalists but possibly one per track.

[Ben_Jamin]

Well, knowing Arjen's reputation as a "nice guy" and given that time heals all most some wounds, maybe he'll invite Russell to be on this new Star One album after all?  You know, sort of taking the high road for the sake of the project, but if you ask me that dude he brought in to replace Russell Allen in those live shows John Jaycee something...is a very solid vocalist in the same vein as Allen.  He even sounds a little like Allen.  I'd be fine with him instead of Allen.

I was about to post the same thing. 

John Jaycee Culpiers did a fantastic job on Ayreon Universe and as the Barbarian on The Electric Castle live. I wouldn't mind him at all.

[kirksnosehair]

Well, knowing Arjen's reputation as a "nice guy" and given that time heals all most some wounds, maybe he'll invite Russell to be on this new Star One album after all?  You know, sort of taking the high road for the sake of the project, but if you ask me that dude he brought in to replace Russell Allen in those live shows John Jaycee something...is a very solid vocalist in the same vein as Allen.  He even sounds a little like Allen.  I'd be fine with him instead of Allen.

I was about to post the same thing. 

John Jaycee Culpiers did a fantastic job on Ayreon Universe and as the Barbarian on The Electric Castle live. I wouldn't mind him at all.

Yeah, actually, even though I forgot his last name I've been chatting with him on Facebook about potentially doing some vocals on our album.  He said he's interested, I just don't know if I'm going to need him yet, but I definitely want to work with him at some point.   If the guy I'm trying to get for the role of "Drug Dealer" on our album falls through there's a pretty good chance I'm going to end up hiring John.  I'll know for sure in about a month.

[Ben_Jamin]

Well, knowing Arjen's reputation as a "nice guy" and given that time heals all most some wounds, maybe he'll invite Russell to be on this new Star One album after all?  You know, sort of taking the high road for the sake of the project, but if you ask me that dude he brought in to replace Russell Allen in those live shows John Jaycee something...is a very solid vocalist in the same vein as Allen.  He even sounds a little like Allen.  I'd be fine with him instead of Allen.

I was about to post the same thing. 

John Jaycee Culpiers did a fantastic job on Ayreon Universe and as the Barbarian on The Electric Castle live. I wouldn't mind him at all.

Yeah, actually, even though I forgot his last name I've been chatting with him on Facebook about potentially doing some vocals on our album.  He said he's interested, I just don't know if I'm going to need him yet, but I definitely want to work with him at some point.   If the guy I'm trying to get for the role of "Drug Dealer" on our album falls through there's a pretty good chance I'm going to end up hiring John.  I'll know for sure in about a month.

 

Still looking forward to checking out your album.

[kirksnosehair]

if not for covid you would probably have it in your hands by now 

[jingle.boy]

Interesting approach to the new Star One, not saying I'm opposed, but I agree with Chad that the multi singer approach was pretty critical to those first two albums and it'll be a big change. That said I think this is the only way he could do it without the obvious FU to Russell Allen when the entire rest of the cast returns and he's replaced with someone.

Why would it be an FU to Allen if Allen was invited to be on Arjens project? Was Allen told that he would forever be a part of the cast of singers on all Star One releases? Or are all the singers on an at-will basis, where they can be replaced if for any reason, including if the creator(Arjen) decides to change it up?

You're missing the point.  It would be an FU to Allen if Star Three was Floor, Damian, Dan, and <insert someone else here>.

And yes, Arjen confirmed on FB that it was going to be all different kinds of vocalists.

https://www.facebook.com/109887886151/posts/10157430899691152/

"New Star One album in the making!"

 

-Marc.

Keep up folks!   

[Ben_Jamin]

Interesting approach to the new Star One, not saying I'm opposed, but I agree with Chad that the multi singer approach was pretty critical to those first two albums and it'll be a big change. That said I think this is the only way he could do it without the obvious FU to Russell Allen when the entire rest of the cast returns and he's replaced with someone.

Why would it be an FU to Allen if Allen was invited to be on Arjens project? Was Allen told that he would forever be a part of the cast of singers on all Star One releases? Or are all the singers on an at-will basis, where they can be replaced if for any reason, including if the creator(Arjen) decides to change it up?

You're missing the point.  It would be an FU to Allen if Star Three was Floor, Damian, Dan, and <insert someone else here>.

How so? Just because he would be the only vocalist that changed? and why should he feel upset about that?

Arjen was upset at Russel for not doing the live show and giving him a short notice of his cancellation, which led Arjen to have to suddenly and quickly search for a replacement singer that has a voice just as powerful as Russel, and would be accepted by the fans because Arjen has no idea how they will react. Good thing he found Jaycee.

And that is all moot anyways, as Arjen stated it isn't going to be just Floor, Damian, Dan, and Russel again. It'll have many different singers for each track. 

[Evermind]

I thought it would be one different singer for each track, but then again, I only watched the video once and that was a month ago.

[Ben_Jamin]

I thought it would be one different singer for each track, but then again, I only watched the video once and that was a month ago.

Yeah, that's what I meant to say. It'll have many different singers, one for each track. I forgot to carry the one...

[ProfessorPeart]

So, instead of Star One, we are getting something along the lines of The Universal Migrator.

To me, Star One is Russ, Damian, Floor and Dan. Anything else is Ayreon or a different project altogether, at least in Arjen's world. I know he had the bonus disc on the last Star One album that had other singers so maybe it will be along that line. I will admit, that is the album that introduced me to Tony Martin and his amazing voice.

Crap, here I am arguing with myself now. 

[Kwyjibo]

If the new Star One is anything like the Universal Migrator Part 2 I would be happy, because that's one hell of a record. 

But I still think Star One should be the original cast, but I can also understand why Arjen won't approach Russell Allen for it.

[jingle.boy]

To me, Star One is Russ, Damian, Floor and Dan. Anything else is Ayreon or a different project altogether, at least in Arjen's world.

I'm with you on this.  If it's going to be (lyrically) out of the Ayreon world, but otherwise some kind of consistent theme like the first two, but with a whole different cast of vocalists, then maybe he should just call it Staryeone (pronounced Star E on) 

[ErHaO]

Personally, changing (some of the) vocalists don't make it no Star One for me. But I would've preferred a more "band-like" approach that the first two had, instead of the Ayreon approach. But in the end good music is good music. I like him returning to the singer per song approach for this one, hopefully the songs make the singers shine and let them use their abilities.

And I can't blame Arjen, he is probably at the peak of his popularity, his latest releases have done very well. So he now probably has the ability to get some of his favourite singers or big(ger) names easier, especially in the non-touring times of covid.

Also, wasn't The Source initially going to be a Star One album?

[SwedishGoose]

If anyone is looking for a download of the Transitus PDF you can find it here

https://smarturl.it/ayreon-MLG

[Stadler]

To me, Star One is Russ, Damian, Floor and Dan. Anything else is Ayreon or a different project altogether, at least in Arjen's world.

I'm with you on this.  If it's going to be (lyrically) out of the Ayreon world, but otherwise some kind of consistent theme like the first two, but with a whole different cast of vocalists, then maybe he should just call it Staryeone (pronounced Star E on) 

HAHAHA.

[Schurftkut]

Arjen replied he'd love to have both Russel Allen AND his live replacement Jaycee Kuipers. So hopefully we can have both

[jingle.boy]

Two things... anyone watch the interview Arjen posted yesterday?  I saw it was 40 mins long, but didn't have the time (or appetite) to watch.  Apparently some Star One update is buried in there.

Secondly, listened to Live on Earth yesterday, and the "ARA-BI-A" moments in Into the Black Hole finally made sense.  Bizarre, since I discovered Vengeance like 15 years ago.  I hadn't listened to them in a long time until a couple months back. 

[Schurftkut]

arjen said the new album has a different singer for each song, plus a guest solo by one of his heroes, which probably is Blackmore from the enthousiasm he had about it.

[The Letter M]

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=187615689870582

Looks like Ed Warby is recording drums for the new Star One!

-Marc.