Author Topic: Black Sabbath Discussion Thread (Read 143137 times)

MasterShakezula · « **Reply #210 on:** July 10, 2012, 06:18:26 PM »

Ah, old Sabbath. Lazyass summer music at its finest. I'd almost forgotten how awesome Master of Reality is. I'd say it's their best, even in spite of being barely a wank long. Sweet Leaf, Lord of this world, and Into the Void are all top 5 songs. The latter's my top song, full-stop.

The King in Crimson · « **Reply #211 on:** July 10, 2012, 07:11:47 PM »

Into the Void was probably the heaviest song of the 70's, full-stop.

Even with death metal, black metal and post-shoegaze grindcore around, it's still crushing today.

wolfking · « **Reply #212 on:** July 10, 2012, 07:33:12 PM »

You are right, I listened to MOR, SBS, S, and V4 all the other day and remembered just how heavy they were and really, they are more powerful than most of my heavy metal/death/black metal albums.

TAC · « **Reply #213 on:** July 10, 2012, 08:23:23 PM »

Quote from: The King in Crimson on July 10, 2012, 07:11:47 PM

Into the Void was probably the heaviest song of the 70's, full-stop.

After Megalomania, Into The Void is my 2nd fave Ozzy era track.

wolfking · « **Reply #214 on:** July 10, 2012, 08:31:21 PM »

In past years, I never really appreciated Megalomania, but after listening to the album the other day, it blew me away.

TAC · « **Reply #215 on:** July 10, 2012, 08:40:15 PM »

Quote from: wolfking on July 10, 2012, 08:31:21 PM

In past years, I never really appreciated Megalomania, but after listening to the album the other day, it blew me away.

Hell yeah, mate!

jjrock88 · « **Reply #216 on:** July 10, 2012, 10:32:48 PM »

What does everyone think of Technical Ecstasy and Never Say Die? I personally enjoy them, but not to the extent of the first six. However, I think "Dirty Woman" is one of my favorite Sabbath tracks period.

Jirpo · « **Reply #217 on:** July 10, 2012, 10:53:25 PM »

Never Say Die is a great album, haven't listened to TE enough to say.

WebRaider · « **Reply #218 on:** July 10, 2012, 10:57:08 PM »

Quote from: jjrock88 on July 10, 2012, 10:32:48 PM

What does everyone think of Technical Ecstasy and Never Say Die? I personally enjoy them, but not to the extent of the first six. However, I think "Dirty Woman" is one of my favorite Sabbath tracks period.

I'm a fan of both but I probably am the biggest fan of Never Say Die! here so I have it above TE.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #219 on:** July 11, 2012, 01:25:32 AM »

Just yesterday I had the most random urge to listen to Never Say Die (just the title track). Then I listened to some Sabbath for the first time in ages. I really need to get more full albums, because I have surprisingly few.

MasterShakezula · « **Reply #220 on:** July 11, 2012, 04:51:33 AM »

Which one's do you have, anyhow?

wolfking · « **Reply #221 on:** July 11, 2012, 04:54:10 AM »

Every single song on Never Say Die is fantastic IMO.

Zydar · « **Reply #222 on:** July 11, 2012, 04:54:49 AM »

Quote from: Jirpo on July 10, 2012, 10:53:25 PM

Never Say Die is a great album, haven't listened to TE enough to say.

Pretty much this. Whenever people discuss underrated albums I always bring up Never Say Die. A really great album.

MasterShakezula · « **Reply #223 on:** July 11, 2012, 05:01:49 AM »

The first side is solid and the other's not half bad. I wouldn't put it up there with the first 3 or 4, but it's about as good as Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.

I've only heard Technical Ecstacy once and remember nothing.

wolfking · « **Reply #224 on:** July 11, 2012, 05:07:39 AM »

TE is a great album too. You have Dirty Women, All Moving Parts, Rock N Roll Doctor, Back Street Kids and my personal fav You Won't Change Me, one of Sabbath's most underrated songs.

Saying that still, NSD >>> TE

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #225 on:** July 11, 2012, 05:59:37 AM »

Quote from: MasterShakezula on July 11, 2012, 04:51:33 AM

Which one's do you have, anyhow?

From the Ozzy era, I have Paranoid, Master of Reality, Vol 4, Sabotage, and a 2 disc best of. That's actually not quite as bad as I thought now that I look at it, but it's still lacking.

MasterShakezula · « **Reply #226 on:** July 11, 2012, 06:10:16 AM »

If you're looking to get more, get the self-titled. It's pretty much in-line with Paranoid and such, all trippy and jammy, assuming you like that version of Sabbath. The other one I'd recommend is Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. It's lighter and more rock than metal at times, but there are some heavy tunes, as well. It does have a couple short, weirdass fillers, but unlike the ones on Master of Reality, they are longer and outlast their welcome. The albums's still good. Technical Ecstacy and Never Say Die could be real good or disappointing; opinions tend to skew positive or way, way negative. They're a lot less heavy than the first 6 and even throw in random synths, but AFAIC, the latter has it's fair share of good tunes.

RichardRG · « **Reply #227 on:** July 22, 2012, 04:36:08 PM »

Fortunate to say I caught the original line-up at Ozzfest 2004 & 2005. Although, Halford stepped in for Ozzy since he came down with bronchitis in 2004, so I have actually seen the original line-up just once.

Like the typical Sabbath fan, I prefer the first 6 albums with Ozzy (although, Dirty Women from Technical Ecstacy is one of my top Sabbath songs) and the 3 albums with Dio. The albums with Tony Martin aren't bad either...

skydivingninja · « **Reply #228 on:** July 23, 2012, 09:18:56 AM »

Two weeks until I see Sabbath with Ozzy at Lollapalooza. Should be fun.

MrBoom_shack-a-lack · « **Reply #229 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:49:17 PM »

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Legendary heavy metal band BLACK SABBATH has set "13" as the title of its new album. The group's first LP with Ozzy Osbourne since 1978 will be released in June via Vertigo/Universal Republic in the U.S. and Vertigo in all other territories. The drum tracks on the CD were laid down by RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE sticksman Brad Wilk following original drummer Bill Ward's decision to bow out of the reunion.

Huh? Did not expect him to be the drummer but of course that was just a session job for him so it dosen't mean he will tour with them. He is a good drummer no doubt about that, just unexpected.

jammindude · « **Reply #230 on:** January 12, 2013, 06:12:35 PM »

I get that it's just a number associated with bad luck and that's probably the only reason. But I was trying to figure if there was an alternative interpretation.

If you were to discount everything but the Osbourne and Dio albums...this would be #12. Can't really count the live album unless you count them both. Maybe if you count the best of collection WSOSFRNR???

Or have I been a DT fan for so long, I just look for nuggetz everywhere?

Man-Erg · « **Reply #231 on:** January 12, 2013, 06:15:38 PM »

Just today, my friend said that Sabbath is a grunge band.

Ooookay.

ColdFireYYZ · « **Reply #232 on:** January 12, 2013, 09:20:28 PM »

I'm not that excited about the new album but I may try to see them live if they end up doing a full North American tour.

JayOctavarium · « **Reply #233 on:** January 12, 2013, 09:42:26 PM »

Shoulda gotten Portnoy

Dark Castle · « **Reply #234 on:** January 13, 2013, 01:58:22 AM »

Quote from: JayOctavarium on January 12, 2013, 09:42:26 PM

Shoulda gotten Portnoy

Not sure if joking or not, but no. He wouldn't really fit Black Sabbath's sound.

wolfking · « **Reply #235 on:** January 13, 2013, 05:42:36 AM »

Weird drummer choice. I still don't know why Vinny Appice isn't involved. Maybe there's a reason, I just missed it.

Also, Cross Purposes is incredible.

JayOctavarium · « **Reply #236 on:** January 13, 2013, 07:08:18 AM »

Quote from: Dark Castle on January 13, 2013, 01:58:22 AM

Quote from: JayOctavarium on January 12, 2013, 09:42:26 PM
Shoulda gotten Portnoy
Not sure if joking or not, but no. He wouldn't really fit Black Sabbath's sound.

joking of course.. too lazy for green text.

Jaq · « **Reply #237 on:** January 13, 2013, 08:39:58 AM »

Quote from: wolfking on January 13, 2013, 05:42:36 AM

Weird drummer choice. I still don't know why Vinny Appice isn't involved. Maybe there's a reason, I just missed it.

Also, Cross Purposes is incredible.

Vinnie's in Kill Devil Hill, and as I recall, he pretty much put that band together. When Bill Ward bowed out, Kill Devil Hill was in their debut album/tour cycle.

TAC · « **Reply #238 on:** January 13, 2013, 09:14:35 AM »

I've heard two tracks from the last Ozzy album and they both sucked, and were autotuned to death.

I don't think I'm even looking forward to this new Sabbath album.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #239 on:** January 13, 2013, 09:20:51 AM »

Quote from: TAC on January 13, 2013, 09:14:35 AM

I've heard two tracks from the last Ozzy album and they both sucked, and were autotuned to death.

Or as I like to call it, "Weekend at Ozzy's". It's the first Ozzy album that I've found no redeeming value in. I even liked several tracks on Black Rain.

Hopefully the style of the Sabbath album will be a bit more fitting, and a bit less overproduced. I'll give it a chance.

JayOctavarium · « **Reply #240 on:** January 13, 2013, 09:54:27 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 13, 2013, 09:20:51 AM

Quote from: TAC on January 13, 2013, 09:14:35 AM
I've heard two tracks from the last Ozzy album and they both sucked, and were autotuned to death.

Or as I like to call it, "Weekend at Ozzy's". It's the first Ozzy album that I've found no redeeming value in. I even liked several tracks on Black Rain.

The redeeming quality in Black Rain (IMO) was Zakk. I can't stand Gus G or whatever his name is...

Funny... I have been on a Sabbath kick the last week oir so. I can't wait for new album

Jaq · « **Reply #241 on:** January 13, 2013, 10:27:14 AM »

The problem with Gus G's playing on the last album was...he was basically told "play it like Zakk." Absolutely none of his personality as a guitar player came through...not that the shitty songs on that album would have been helped by that, but Gus doesn't naturally play like Zakk Wylde.

Nel · « **Reply #242 on:** January 13, 2013, 10:31:38 AM »

>_>

<_<

I liked the last Ozzy album.

*flees*

JayOctavarium · « **Reply #243 on:** January 13, 2013, 10:32:15 AM »

Quote from: Jaq on January 13, 2013, 10:27:14 AM

The problem with Gus G's playing on the last album was...he was basically told "play it like Zakk." Absolutely none of his personality as a guitar player came through...not that the shitty songs on that album would have been helped by that, but Gus doesn't naturally play like Zakk Wylde.

Pretty much! I listened to it with an open mind... (even though I am a Zakk fan boy in ways) and it just sounded... forced.

Dark Castle · « **Reply #244 on:** January 13, 2013, 12:54:51 PM »

Quote from: Nel on January 13, 2013, 10:31:38 AM

>_>

<_<

I liked the last Ozzy album.

*flees*

Same here

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Author Topic: Black Sabbath Discussion Thread (Read 143137 times)