Doctor Who

[masterthes]

Epicness on an epic scale

[ariich]

AUUUUUGHH I freaked out when I heard McGann's voice! Best prequel ever. Moffat is a genius.

The 50th is easily going to be the best thing to happen to this show. I am so pumped.

Yeah I was assuming it would star Matt Smith, I got disproportionately excited when I realised it was McGann!

[Jaq]

Since I was a fan of the original show, McGann, in the form of the audios and the novel range, was what kept Doctor Who alive for me for a long time. Remember the excitement when I got my first McGann audio, it was like getting the show back. Nice to seem him get into the new series, even if it was only for a mini-episode. He was great in it too, and it was nice to give guys like me who bought the audios a tip of the hat with the list of the audio-only companions. I did not see this coming and I was amazed by it!

[ariich]

Yeah that was a great touch! I haven't listened to any of the audio dramas, but I really like McGann so I'm wondering if I should get into them.

Any particularly good ones you'd recommend, so that I could get a taster?

[Kotowboy]

I haven't read this entire thread - what is the general consensus of the McGann TV movie ?

I thought it was a bit too "gothic" or something. The TARDIS was too different and it didn't have the whimsical charm of the TV show.

[ariich]

It had some good points and bad points. There was definitely still plenty of whimsy in there, but some of the story was quite silly. Overall I enjoyed it, and I liked how it was a lot more modern than the classic series and introduced a lot of new elements that have been quite prominent in the new series. McGann was the best thing about it though, such a shame he never got to do much on TV, but fantastic that he's now been able to have a regeneration!

[Kotowboy]

Was he the same McGann that was in Withnail & I ?

There's quite a few McGanns they're like the English Baldwins.

I highly recommend Withnail And I if you've never seen it.

It also Stars Richard Griffiths and Richard E Grant.

[Dimitrius]

So, the War Doctor... I like how that sounds!

[Jaq]

Yeah that was a great touch! I haven't listened to any of the audio dramas, but I really like McGann so I'm wondering if I should get into them.

Any particularly good ones you'd recommend, so that I could get a taster?

I was particularly fond of the earliest McGann ones-Storm Warning was the first one, and that began a pretty nifty arc that was resolved in two huge audios-Neverland, and the follow up, Zagreus, was pretty much a multi-Doctor story since it had McGann, Sylvester McCoy, Peter Davison, and Colin Baker in it. Though the latter is nearly four hours long, so pack a lunch. There are a LOT of Big Finish audios, so it takes an effort to dig into them all.

[Perpetual Change]

FINALLY finished Season 4. Onto Matt Smith!

[wasteland]

I managed to get to the episode without spoilers, thanks to our robwebster, and neeless to say I was left speechless! My first regeneration scene has been Paul McGann's! Who would have ever thought!

[Perpetual Change]

A few episodes into Season 5.

Wow, Matt Smith. First off, I really like this still, which is good because I was worried about whether I'd like a new Doctor or not. It took me a few episodes to buy Tennant, and I thought the same would be true for Smith. Not so. I like Smith right away. I like Amy even more.

Secondly, is it just me, or does S5 feel like another complete reboot? New Doctor, all new supporting cast, new Tartus, new producer, new theme and intro video, etc., feels like more than just a new season. Anyway, glad to see Moffat is the same guy who produced several of my favorite episodes from S1-4.

Definitely looking forward to this 

[Kotowboy]

Tartus ?

You mean Tardis ?

[El JoNNo]

Let them have their tar-tartis!

[Kotowboy]

TARDIS is a weird backronym since most of the time you start off with an existing word and try to force a meaning out of it,

But Tardis is a made-up word to begin with.

[Perpetual Change]

Cool, good catch guys.

Any, uh, response to the actual content of my post?

[Dimitrius]

Amy Pond is fucking great!

[ariich]

Yeah Series 5 basically was another complete reboot. Obviously quite a few of the crew carried on working on it, and you get some little bits of recurring cast (like River Song), but basically the primary cast and head production team all changed.

This sort of thing has always happened in Doctor Who though. Maybe not as suddenly as here, but the show has been around for 50 years, and the original classic run lasted 27 years without a break, so in that time there was constant turnover of cast, crew and producers.

That's basically why the show has lasted so long and is as strong as ever - its ability to keep renewing itself.

[Kotowboy]

That's basically why the show has lasted so long and is as strong as ever - its ability to keep regenerating itself.

FTFY

[Perpetual Change]

Yeah Series 5 basically was another complete reboot. Obviously quite a few of the crew carried on working on it, and you get some little bits of recurring cast (like River Song), but basically the primary cast and head production team all changed.

This sort of thing has always happened in Doctor Who though. Maybe not as suddenly as here, but the show has been around for 50 years, and the original classic run lasted 27 years without a break, so in that time there was constant turnover of cast, crew and producers.

That's basically why the show has lasted so long and is as strong as ever - its ability to keep renewing itself.

Yeah, it's cool. I like it, and honestly as much as I liked the gang from Eccleston / Tennant I do feel it was about time they mixed it up a bit.

Anyway, hope all the other episodes are as good as episodes 1 & 2.

[Scorpion]

Holy fuck that minisode was good. ONE MORE WEEK

[Kotowboy]

The mini episode reminds me why i'm not a fan of the modern Dr. Who. They try to cram way too much story & emotion into each episode and that was only 7 minutes and it was fit to burst. I'm surprised someone din't start sobbing then you'd have the full house.

[hefdaddy42]

OMG OMG OMG OMG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U3jrS-uhuo

The Night of the Doctor.

OMG

Finally got to watch this.

Holy shit.

[Super Dude]

I am gonna miss having a younger Doctor, but I can't wait for Peter Capaldi to say "fock" in every sentence (kidding, just kidding).

[wasteland]

Everyone involved is saying that the 50th will set the Doctor on a completely different direction on his course. Do you have any idea of what this change might entail?

[Kotowboy]

Maybe capaldi will be the last ? He'll CGI-regenerate back into Hartnell ?

[wasteland]

The story ends where it began?

[Scorpion]

That would not make one iota of sense.

[Heretic]

LOL that's not even a feasible idea.

Also-- I would entirely disagree that there is too much "packed" into this minisode. It's fast-paced from the start, but there's no overload of emotion or information that I don't get from other tv shows. The new series doesn't do this that much either. Some stories are a bit too fast paced (The Wedding of River Song is one that could've benefited from a two-parter) but I see people complaining that not enough happens in some of New Who's two parters, such as flesh or Silurian two parters.

[Kotowboy]

LOL that's not even a feasible idea.

Also-- I would entirely disagree that there is too much "packed" into this minisode. It's fast-paced from the start, but there's no overload of emotion or information that I don't get from other tv shows. The new series doesn't do this that much either. Some stories are a bit too fast paced (The Wedding of River Song is one that could've benefited from a two-parter) but I see people complaining that not enough happens in some of New Who's two parters, such as flesh or Silurian two parters.

Twas obvs a joke guys, god !

[ariich]

For anyone who got particularly excited by that minisode, SIGN THIS PETITION: https://www.change.org/petitions/steven-moffat-paul-mcgann-create-a-series-of-live-action-eighth-doctor-adventures

[Kotowboy]

A spin off would be good for McGann ! they could call it.. "8" or something.

[ariich]

Considering we've had reasonably high-budget spin-offs for Torchwood and Sarah Jane, an 8th Doctor spin-off really doesn't seem like a stretch!

[Kotowboy]

They should totally get Ricard E Grant in an episode two and the whole episode keep slyly referencing Withnail And I.

[jonny108]

Did anybody watch An Adventure In Time And Space? I loved it. Wow. What an incredible piece of drama, Mark Gatiss did a wonderful job. David Bradley was perfect for Bill, what a phenomenal actor! I can smell a BAFTA coming on.  Really excited for the 50th tomorrow, bring it on!