Doctor Who

[El JoNNo]

I think it would be cool if 10 and 11 were the cause of 8.5's regeneration into 9. I think it would be badass to have Eccleston make a short cameo. Just think both 8.5 and 11 face off both of them become mortally wounded and have to regenerate in the same scene.

But wouldn't that make 11 already aware of everything is going to happen? He would have lived it already as 8.5 and as 9. 11 would know he's the one who kills 8.5 into 9, wouldn't that take a part of the pathos away from him? Like he's acting a script he already knows?

You can't get around him living it already as it is. They're still going up against themselves in this episode. Whatever excuse they use for why they don't remember what they do in order to stop themselves they can use for the 9th.

[ariich]

I think it would be cool if 10 and 11 were the cause of 8.5's regeneration into 9. I think it would be badass to have Eccleston make a short cameo. Just think both 8.5 and 11 face off both of them become mortally wounded and have to regenerate in the same scene.

But wouldn't that make 11 already aware of everything is going to happen? He would have lived it already as 8.5 and as 9. 11 would know he's the one who kills 8.5 into 9, wouldn't that take a part of the pathos away from him? Like he's acting a script he already knows?

You can't get around him living it already as it is. They're still going up against themselves in this episode. Whatever excuse they use for why they don't remember what they do in order to stop themselves they can use for the 9th.

Yeah, that's just an inherent paradox in a multi-Doctor story, but hey, this is a story about time-travel, you're always going to get those. Wibbly wobbly timey wimey.

In related news, I rewatched The Wedding of River Song today and I really, really liked it. Yeah, the pacing is a little off, but the rest of it is just sooooo good.

Totally, when I rewatched it I thought the story and the climax were really fantastic, it really is just the pacing that is lacking. Far too rushed.

[wasteland]

Same. Which is why the best Doctor Who finale I've watched so far (and so far I've watched only seasons 5,6,7, The Girl In The Fireplace and the first two Eccleston episoes) is The Pandorica Opens / The Big Bang. Fantastic arc, really.

[Heretic]

The Name of the Doctor is still my favorite. So much atmosphere, tension, and revelation in such little time done brilliantly.

[wasteland]

I didn't like it that much, on the contrary. :/

[Scorpion]

Let's rank the season finales, shall we?

1. The Name of the Doctor. Just beautiful.
2. The Pandorica Opens / The Big Bang. Amazing - nothing more. I love how Moffat ties the arc together, and the ending with the wedding is brilliant.
3. The Wedding of River Song. Some issues with the pacing, but other than that, I love it to bits.
4. Army of Ghosts / Doomsday. Some great lines and that farewell scene... I didn't even really like Rose, but I cried. Still, some scenes are a little stupid.
5. The End of Time. Not really a season finale, but I'm putting it here anyway. The ending is a little stretched out, but the rest is pure gold. John Simm and Bernard Cribbins deliver amazing performances.
6. Bad Wolf / The Parting of the Ways. Great set-up, lacking resolution. Still a lot of fun, though, I really like the way that well-known TV shows are parodied.
7. Turn Left / The Stolen Earth / Journey's End. The first two parts are magnificient, but Journey's End is just too convoluted for its own good.
8. Utopia / The Sound of Drums / Last of the Time Lords. Same as above, really. Could switch places with #7 any day.

All in all, I definitely prefer the Moffat era, even though there are some flaws there as well. What really bothered me about RTD finales is that they often had amazing set-ups and the resolution was just lacking completely. Still, they're all good fun.

EDIT: Just noticed that the sign next to Hurt on the promo poster says "Bad Wolf". This makes the fanboy in me completely giddy of the possibilities, while at the same time praying that it's not convoluted or fucked-up... though I doubt that will happen.

[masterthes]

Switch the last two, and that's my list

[ariich]

1. The Name of the Doctor
2. The Pandorica Opens / The Big Bang
3. The Wedding of River Song
4. The Sound of Drums / Last of the Time Lords
5. The End of Time
6. Bad Wolf / The Parting of the Ways
7. Army of Ghosts / Doomsday
8. The Stolen Earth / Journey's End

The bottom two have some great stuff still, but they're just too much of RTD's fall-back of "OH LOOK DALEKS AGAIN" to be as exciting as the rest.

[wasteland]

So far:

1. The Pandorica Opens / The Big Bang
3. The Name Of The Doctor
2. The Wedding Of River Song

[wasteland]

By the way, a parody of Soft Kitty

[El JoNNo]

meh..

[wasteland]

So, I just finished the 1st season, and I got to say it, Eccleston was really really fan-TAS-tic. I didn't expect him to be that good in the role, especially after reading many articles that sort of overlooked his tenure.

Favourite episodes:

Father's Day
The Doctor Dances
The Parting Of The Ways
The Unquiet Dead

[bout to crash]

Agreed!

[Perpetual Change]

Well, we're both sick and tired and it's cold, so I promised the s/o that we'd just chill on the couch and watch at least a disc of S4 tonight, which is where we're at now. Looking forward to it! Can't believe we're almost through the era of the Doctor most people consider to be The Doctor!

[ariich]

[wasteland]

I saw the alternate universe episodes about the Cyberman. They were quite awesome! Conversely, The Idiot's Lantern was funny, but not much more than that.

I know I'm going to miss Rose. Are the next two companions up the bar she set so high?

[Heretic]

Donna's easily Ten's best companion. I don't like Rose much, though, just my opinion.

[Mister Gold]

Donna's easily Ten's best companion. I don't like Rose much, though, just my opinion.

Agreed, though I loved Rose with Nine. I feel like the way she was written during Tennant's run changed her character a fair bit.

[Dimitrius]

Yeah, Donna was awesome with Ten. Though Amy is, IMO, easily the best of the companions so far.

[ariich]

I loved Amy and I'm loving Clara as well. While I liked the RTD-era companions, I'm enjoying the Moffat-era ones a lot more!

[Perpetual Change]

Donna's easily Ten's best companion. I don't like Rose much, though, just my opinion.

Agreed, though I loved Rose with Nine. I feel like the way she was written during Tennant's run changed her character a fair bit.

Agreed. Rose was great with Nine, but awful with Ten, thanks to writer defining her around the Doctor with the start of Ten, rather then letting her continue to be her own person.

I realized that I liked Doctor Nine, but REALLY liked Rose, so when they changed her from being an individual to a damsel in distress for S2, I got confused and thought I wasn't digging the show because of Tennant. But as I went on, I realized I liked Tennant just fine, just not where they were going with Rose. The S3 and S4 companions have been great IMO.

[wasteland]

Could you provide a few examples supporting this line of thought? I'm interested 

[Perpetual Change]

S1 Rose is an interesting character who is their own person and interacts with the Doctor.

S2 Rose is in a general sense a generic female supporting role who's personality centers around the Doctor.

[Dimitrius]

Currently on Nightmare in Silver or Doctor Who and the Cybermen Designed by Tony Stark.

[wasteland]

Currently on Nightmare in Silver or Doctor Who and the Cybermen Designed by Tony Stark.

[masterthes]

I definitely agree that Rose was a better character with Nine

[wasteland]

Has anybody seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD997i_89RM (turn off the 3D). I can't believe it's fan made, this is actually stunning.

For those who like to see their jaws drop look at this breakdown.

[ariich]

Oh my lord, that guy is outrageously good. Why is he not already at the BBC making Doctor Who!

[wasteland]

I KNOW!

But sorry, here's really the breakdown. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZXP9FMm9w4&feature=youtu.be 

As you said, this is illegally good. This guy should be hired right away. He basically made a compelling and completely believable trailer out of pictures.

[ariich]

For fans of the classic series, a bunch of missing episodes from the first two Doctors have been found! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24448063

They're not revealing which ones yet, but there have been rumours going around for the last couple of weeks that it's ALL of the missing ones, which would be amazing but I remain doubtful.

[masterthes]

All of them?! That would be so awesome

[ariich]

That's only a rumour, and it's most likely excited fans getting carried away.

[Nekov]

Quick quiz to determine which creature you would be in the doctor Who Universe

https://www.bbcamerica.com/doctor-who/extras/which-doctor-who-creature-are-you/

I got The tardis, not sure what to make of that...

[Dimitrius]

I'm a cyberman

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

I'm the Master.