Doctor Who

[Cecilia]

I cried!

I am never going to look at the Statue of Liberty the same way.

[Sigz]

Great episode.

Though I thought the whole statue of liberty thing was pretty hokey to be honest.

[Cedar redaC]

Though I thought the whole statue of liberty thing was pretty hokey to be honest.

Sure, but where else but could they do that without going all Planet of the Apes on everyone. It was a little strange, but it ties the place to the episode a bit more clearly than just saying that they're in Manhattan along with the Times Square shots.

[Jaq]

Let's face it, the idea of the Statue of Liberty just idly stomping across town and apparently no one noticing is silly, but c'mon, you do a story with the Weeping Angels in New York City, how can you resist it? And given everything that followed after the second appearance of the statue, I have no complaints.

[Sigz]

My main problem with it is that it literally did nothing but stomp around. It had no apparent purpose but to make scary faces at the rooftop and then go right back to welcoming our huddled masses afterwards.

Either way however, it's a minor gripe.

[ariich]

My main problem with it is that it literally did nothing but stomp around. It had no apparent purpose but to make scary faces at the rooftop and then go right back to welcoming our huddled masses afterwards.

Either way however, it's a minor gripe.

Does it need to have a purpose beyond being a fun, cool idea? This is a family show after all!

But anyway it seemed to be there to catch anyone who escaped from the farm. Didn't manage it with Rory and Amy but did it to the guy at the start.

[Jaq]

It did appear that the statue was the last line of defense in keeping people in the building if all else failed, but really, it was there for the end of the pre-credits sequence shocking shot to look cool. 

[Nekov]

I'm so sad 

[Heretic]

I wonder if the Doctor will visit Brian and let him know what happened to Amy and Rory, especially after the dramatic scene in which he explains to Brian what happened to his previous companions.

Also is it Christmas yet? Oswin please.

[Sketchy]

Just gonna leave this here:



Would have watched it, but was busy at the time with puppy scare (I have yet more dogs now). But from what I've heard it was an epic episode.

Incidentally: That's the first time I've ever seen anyone running up to the labs...

[Super Dude]

Don't let the Doctor see the damage. My brother has suggested this means Amy never found Rory in the end, but that's precisely why Amy wrote the afterword the way she did.

[Implode]

I don't understand what I'm supposed to be looking at in the picture.

[robwebster]

I don't understand what I'm supposed to be looking at in the picture.

It's a filming location he knows from real life. He's mentioned it a couple of times in the last few pages, wondering if it'd appeared yet. Now it has!

[Implode]

Ah. Seems like I haven't been paying attention to the thread enough.

[Sketchy]

That shiny metal ball is what I spent most of my final year studying. It's meant to demonstrate the rotation of the earth, but we didn't get the thing that jiggles it up and down working, so it largely stops swinging before it changes direction very much.

[Perpetual Change]

Just finished the first season. I really, really liked it after the first couple of episodes. Darleks are amazing. So were those gasmasked "Are you my mummy" children.

Wasn't happy to see the arrival of David Tennant at the end of the season, though. I was really starting to like the Doctor as he was.

[GuineaPig]

I really like Eccleston.  It's a shame he didn't get enough time to fully leave his mark on the character.

Likewise, it's a shame that Tennant suffered the brunt of RTD's worst habits.  But I'm sure you'll be won over by him, PC.

[robwebster]

Hurrah! Welcome to the fold!

I remember going into school the Monday after Chris Eccleston regenerated and thoroughly taking the piss out of David Tennant. The teeth, the faces, the over-enunciation of the word "BAR-suh-LOA-nah." No respect whatsoever, it was like Chris Eccleston had been replaced by a supply teacher.

I also remember the first day back after Christmas. To say we'd changed our tunes would be... an understatement. Trust me, he's the Doctor. Keep checking in, I am incredibly jealous of the journey you're about to go on.

Also, for anyone who's up to date, everyone who's seen The Angels Take Manhattan - who wants to watch a three minute mini-episode set before the Christmas special!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYsexXUr_Jk

It's good, I promise.

[Cedar redaC]

I really liked Eccleston. He was the "darkest" doctor of the new series. I really enjoy David and Matt as well though. The Angels Take Manhattan is amazing.

[Nekov]

Ecclestone never clicked with me. I don't know if it was his face, his way of speaking or what but I was very happy when Tenant came on board. I prefer him over Matt Smith as well who took me 4 or 5 episodes to like, but now I'm dreading the moment he regenerates.

[Cedar redaC]

[Implode]

[robwebster]

Amazing.

Also - summoning Perpetual Change! How far are you! Are you enjoying it! Don't look at that picture if you've not done series six!

[Sigz]

That was wonderful

[Heretic]

That was fantastic. Jenna-Louise Coleman is amazing.

[Sigz]

Yeah, based on only two episodes Clara is already well on track to be my favorite companion.

[Jaq]

Jenna-Louise Coleman is already making me say "Karen who?" 

And you know what? I'd pay good money to see a comedy series starring the Doctor and Strax. That'd be GOLD.

[abydos]

Strax is alive? How? Who? When?
I didn't like how the episode didn't make a lot of sense in terms of setting and where the doctor is, etc. Turns out, all the trailers and promos for it are kind of mini episodes with a little bit of context filling all that out. I wish they had included them with the episode.

Wasn't happy to see the arrival of David Tennant at the end of the season, though. I was really starting to like the Doctor as he was.

That pretty much happens to all the doctors, at least for me. I only recently watched all the 6 seasons for the first time and each and every time I immediately disliked the new doctor and after a few episodes I was completely sold. Remarkable job with the casting, I must say. Overall, Tennant is probably my favourite. I, too, regret that Eccleston didn't get at least 1-2 more seasons.

Also, am I in the minority to think that it was a damn shame to "ruin" such a lovely character and story with Rose by using such a meh actress? I mean she did a fine job but after I saw all the other companions, they blow her out of the water.

[Perpetual Change]

So far, I have not been able to get into season 2 at all. There have been a couple really great episodes, like the one that takes place in pre-Revolutionary France and the few leading up to Mickey leaving, but I've either forgotten or fallen asleep through the others. The episodes just seem really long and random to me.  Rose's character development has stagnated, especially with Mickey's departure, and honestly I'm not sure why I'm watching anymore.  There's no compelling, overarching plot, and the characters have ceased to be interesting to me. 45 minutes of television seems too long for a show that focuses on shallow Sci-Fi novelties as the main conflict, at least when it's lacking the same great writing and characters that I feel like season 1 had.

The fiance basically forces me to watch all the episodes, and it's turned into a chore rather than a joy.  I'd much rather her just make me watch the really good ones, 'cause right now I'm enjoying maybe 1 out of 3, and moping around about what a drag it is to lose 90 minutes watching the other two.   

Also, am I in the minority to think that it was a damn shame to "ruin" such a lovely character and story with Rose by using such a meh actress? I mean she did a fine job but after I saw all the other companions, they blow her out of the water.

I loved her in season 1, but as stated above, something happened in season 2. The chemistry forced on us between her and Tennant isn't very good; neither is their relationship without Mickey complicating things. Big thumbs up on Rose during season 1; big meh from season 2. She is cute, though 

[ACID_FOX]

So far, I have not been able to get into season 2 at all. There have been a couple really great episodes, like the one that takes place in pre-Revolutionary France and the few leading up to Mickey leaving, but I've either forgotten or fallen asleep through the others. The episodes just seem really long and random to me.  Rose's character development has stagnated, especially with Mickey's departure, and honestly I'm not sure why I'm watching anymore.  There's no compelling, overarching plot, and the characters have ceased to be interesting to me. 45 minutes of television seems too long for a show that focuses on shallow Sci-Fi novelties as the main conflict, at least when it's lacking the same great writing and characters that I feel like season 1 had.

The fiance basically forces me to watch all the episodes, and it's turned into a chore rather than a joy.  I'd much rather her just make me watch the really good ones, 'cause right now I'm enjoying maybe 1 out of 3, and moping around about what a drag it is to lose 90 minutes watching the other two.   

Also, am I in the minority to think that it was a damn shame to "ruin" such a lovely character and story with Rose by using such a meh actress? I mean she did a fine job but after I saw all the other companions, they blow her out of the water.

I loved her in season 1, but as stated above, something happened in season 2. The chemistry forced on us between her and Tennant isn't very good; neither is their relationship without Mickey complicating things. Big thumbs up on Rose during season 1; big meh from season 2. She is cute, though 

I'd say stick it out until the end of Series 2, the end is definately worth it, I promise you.

[ariich]

Season 2 is definitely the weakest, but as you say it does have a few great episodes.

Season 3 is where it really starts to pick up though, so stick with it. The season-wide story arcs start to get bigger and the variety of companions keeps it exciting!

[ariich]

Oh and just caught up with the Christmas episode, loved it! Ian McKellen voicing the great intelligence was a very cool surprise, Richard E Grant was brilliant, and I'm pretty much in love with Jenna Louise Coleman.

[Cedar redaC]

I just saw the christmas special, and I'm really excited for what the next season holds.

[robwebster]

So far, I have not been able to get into season 2 at all. There have been a couple really great episodes, like the one that takes place in pre-Revolutionary France and the few leading up to Mickey leaving, but I've either forgotten or fallen asleep through the others. The episodes just seem really long and random to me.  Rose's character development has stagnated, especially with Mickey's departure, and honestly I'm not sure why I'm watching anymore.  There's no compelling, overarching plot, and the characters have ceased to be interesting to me. 45 minutes of television seems too long for a show that focuses on shallow Sci-Fi novelties as the main conflict, at least when it's lacking the same great writing and characters that I feel like season 1 had.

Without saying too much... yes! Stick with it.

Because some of those complaints, like "No compelling, overarching plot," and "Character development stagnating..." those problems are fixed in later series, and how!!

I do generally advise people to start from series 5 (the latest fresh start) and then return to Rose when they know how much they love it - but even then, 3 and 4 both do the overarching plot thing much better than 2, and the second series' ending really works. You're in something of a patchy phase, and I fear the patchiest is yet to come (Love & Monsters followed by Fear Her... oh, my faith was tested!) but trust the girlfriend. You'll thank her when you're older. q:

[abydos]

I have to ask, as one coming relatively recently to the series: are we all in agreement that the weeping angels are most likely the most creepiest, scariest, awesomest and kindest monsters ever created? Seriously, I'm having hard time thinking about anything that can even remotely compete.