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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2009, 03:24:49 PM »
Honestly I think a good idea would be to say how many times it was played, and then in parenthesis how many of those times were in a particular medley.

For example-

Learning to Live: 450 (100 times as part of Metropolis/Learning to Live/Crimson Sunset and 50 times as part of Schmedley Wilcox)

Now, I would actually prefer that the number be full plays, and then have medleys added on, but you have already said you won't do that, but for example that would look like this-

Learning to Live: 300 (Also played 100 times as part of Metropolis/Learning to Live/Crimson Sunset and 50 times as part of Schmedley Wilcox)
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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2009, 05:14:06 PM »
Honestly I think a good idea would be to say how many times it was played, and then in parenthesis how many of those times were in a particular medley.

For example-

Learning to Live: 450 (100 times as part of Metropolis/Learning to Live/Crimson Sunset and 50 times as part of Schmedley Wilcox)

Now, I would actually prefer that the number be full plays, and then have medleys added on, but you have already said you won't do that, but for example that would look like this-

Learning to Live: 300 (Also played 100 times as part of Metropolis/Learning to Live/Crimson Sunset and 50 times as part of Schmedley Wilcox)

I given it some thought, and your method seems to match what I would consider doing.
In which case, give me a week or so, and I'll have the redistributed version up.

I really didn't want to have to change it, but I'd rather change it and have more insightful comments based on the actual list, than leave it as is and all comments be about how it should be changed.
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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2009, 05:27:00 PM »
They should never play PMU warped  version ever again and just leave it there. So :metal

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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2009, 09:00:46 PM »
Voila.
All fixed for those who care.
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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2009, 09:35:03 PM »
Whoa, was When Images And Words Unite only played once?

Haha, that means the trainwreck version is the only one. Excellent.

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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2009, 09:36:32 PM »
Whoa, was When Images And Words Unite only played once?

Haha, that means the trainwreck version is the only one. Excellent.

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EDIT: Sorry about that. Mis-searched the MP tourography. It listed it as WIAWU medley for being played 1 time, and WIAWU for 14. I key searched medley, so I missed the other 14. All fixed now.
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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2009, 09:38:34 PM »
Hey thanks for putting this list together dude.  Major props.

I noticed that you didnt include Dont Look Past Me on the list of demos.  Is it because it has never been played live even once or did you forget it?

I always thought it was one of their best songs and would love to hear it live even though I know it will probably never happen.  I was lucky enough to hear To Live Forever live.

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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #42 on: November 05, 2009, 09:43:10 PM »
Hey thanks for putting this list together dude.  Major props.

I noticed that you didnt include Dont Look Past Me on the list of demos.  Is it because it has never been played live even once or did you forget it?

I always thought it was one of their best songs and would love to hear it live even though I know it will probably never happen.  I was lucky enough to hear To Live Forever live.

Thanks for the props.
Don't Look Past Me has never been played live. Along with Space Dye Vest, The Shattered Fortress, and The Best of Times (and I guess you could include You Or Me), it has yet to be played.
It is a good song, however I wouldn't count on a live performance of it anytime soon.
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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #43 on: November 05, 2009, 09:57:39 PM »
yea... well TSF and TBOT will eventually get played for sure, just probably not on this tour.

SDV... the only chance I ever see it getting played is if they play all of Awake for this anniversary show like they did with the 1st 2 albums but they probably wont play it anyway unless Kevin Moore shows up which also probably wont happen.

One thing I was wondering, when you went through the old sets and they played the demo version of Burning My Soul, did you count it as JUST Burning My Soul or did you remember that the entirety of Hells Kitchen is included in the middle of it?  I actually saw them play this version live when they were on their first tour for SDOIT and it was pretty cool.
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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2009, 09:54:32 AM »
On MP's tourography, they note which version of Burning My Soul it is. "Burning My Soul" is just the singular song, but "Burning My Soul '96" is the version with Hell's Kitchen in it. So basically any show where Burning My Soul '96 was played, I counted both Burning My Soul and Hell's Kitchen.

Hell's Kitchen has only been played 4 times outside of Burning My Soul '96 and Instrumedley.
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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2009, 04:56:23 PM »
Don't Look Past Me has never been played live.
If only. AMAZING little song.

And this is a brilliant little undertaking. I do think it makes more sense now and is more impressive, but it was still cool pre-medleys. Good work dude!

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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2009, 05:06:39 PM »
Wow, that is awesome now setra! Great job, and thanks for all the effort!

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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2009, 09:54:42 PM »
The Crimson Sunset would've been played a lot in the Once in a LIVEtime era in the medley with Metropolis and Learning to Live, wouldn't it?
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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2009, 04:54:30 PM »
The Crimson Sunset would've been played a lot in the Once in a LIVEtime era in the medley with Metropolis and Learning to Live, wouldn't it?

Those were never designated officially as medleys on MP's tourography. It was written as:
Metropolis/
Learning to Live/
The Crimson Sunset

So, the ones for the Prog Nation 09 tour are actually only temporary. When they are posted on MP's site, if they are logged as they were before, then I'll take off the medley part an retally the individual songs. If it does say "medley" specifically then it'll stay as is.

Either way, yes that was the majority of the individual plays for The Crimson Sunset.
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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #49 on: November 08, 2009, 07:11:13 AM »
Those were never designated officially as medleys on MP's tourography.
They were, in fact, medleys.
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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #50 on: November 08, 2009, 09:36:28 AM »
Those were never designated officially as medleys on MP's tourography.
They were, in fact, medleys.

When in doubt I check MP's tourography. It doesn't say medley anywhere, I don't say medley anywhere.
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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #51 on: November 09, 2009, 04:28:29 PM »
Those were never designated officially as medleys on MP's tourography.
They were, in fact, medleys.

When in doubt I check MP's tourography. It doesn't say medley anywhere, I don't say medley anywhere.

I'm pretty sure that the slash usually indicated a medley in some form.
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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #52 on: November 09, 2009, 06:14:58 PM »
Those were never designated officially as medleys on MP's tourography.
They were, in fact, medleys.

When in doubt I check MP's tourography. It doesn't say medley anywhere, I don't say medley anywhere.

I'm pretty sure that the slash usually indicated a medley in some form.

Not necessarily. A slash just usually means a transition with no break.
Besides, it doesn't say medley, so there's no keyword I can use in the search option. I would have a hard time going back through the list and picking it all apart again.
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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #53 on: November 09, 2009, 07:33:56 PM »
FFS, it's a medley.
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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #54 on: November 09, 2009, 09:23:25 PM »
FFS, it's a medley.

Seriously, this. If it looks like a medley, it it sounds like a medley, and it smells like a medley, it's a medley. It's only named by individual songs because the medley obviously doesn't have its own specific name, but it's obviously a medley. There is no grey area here when it comes to the definition of a medley.
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« Reply #55 on: November 09, 2009, 09:25:02 PM »
How did Schmedley Wilcox get its name?
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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #56 on: November 10, 2009, 09:52:49 AM »
FFS, it's a medley.

Seriously, this. If it looks like a medley, it it sounds like a medley, and it smells like a medley, it's a medley. It's only named by individual songs because the medley obviously doesn't have its own specific name, but it's obviously a medley. There is no grey area here when it comes to the definition of a medley.

GOD. DAMMIT.

Okay, I'm fixing it today.
I'm blending the medley from the Touring into Infinty shows and the PN09 shows. I know they are slightly different, but its the same 3 songs.
I need a name from that medley. Give me some ideas.
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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #57 on: November 10, 2009, 10:51:47 AM »


It's a medley.

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« Reply #58 on: November 10, 2009, 11:13:19 AM »
FFS, it's a medley.

Seriously, this. If it looks like a medley, it it sounds like a medley, and it smells like a medley, it's a medley. It's only named by individual songs because the medley obviously doesn't have its own specific name, but it's obviously a medley. There is no grey area here when it comes to the definition of a medley.

GOD. DAMMIT.

Okay, I'm fixing it today.
I'm blending the medley from the Touring into Infinty shows and the PN09 shows. I know they are slightly different, but its the same 3 songs.
I need a name from that medley. Give me some ideas.

Well, I know that in 2008 it was called the Progressive Nation Medley. 
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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #59 on: November 10, 2009, 11:14:14 AM »
I know I gave it that name in my setlist thread, but was it actually called that?

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« Reply #60 on: November 10, 2009, 12:00:54 PM »
I know I gave it that name in my setlist thread, but was it actually called that?

Probably not, then.  I thought I had read it on Mp.com, but it was actually from your compilations.
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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #61 on: November 10, 2009, 12:55:25 PM »
I know I gave it that name in my setlist thread, but was it actually called that?
Doubt it, they were playing it on the First European festival leg.

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Re: The Fully Updated Dream Theater Live Archive
« Reply #62 on: November 10, 2009, 05:55:06 PM »
Fixed the list to include the medley which will now be known as "Encore Medley".

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Re: The Dream Theater Live Archive (UPDATED 12/14)
« Reply #63 on: December 17, 2009, 09:12:26 AM »
Where's Bombay Vindaloo or the Spirit of St. Louis?! Regardless, that compilation is awesome. Fantastic, even.

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« Reply #64 on: December 18, 2009, 06:04:00 PM »
Where's Bombay Vindaloo or the Spirit of St. Louis?! Regardless, that compilation is awesome. Fantastic, even.

I haven't heard of Spirit of St. Louis, so I imagine it was recorded in the MP tourography under a different name.
All of the misc jam/live-only tracks are in my personal archive, but I didn't upload them here, as it's fairly cluttered.
However, because you asked, Bombay Vindaloo has been played 8 times.
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« Reply #65 on: December 23, 2009, 08:35:58 PM »
Where's Bombay Vindaloo or the Spirit of St. Louis?! Regardless, that compilation is awesome. Fantastic, even.

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« Reply #66 on: December 24, 2009, 03:30:53 AM »
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Uhm... What song is this?  ???

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Re: The Dream Theater Live Archive (UPDATED 12/14)
« Reply #67 on: December 24, 2009, 05:12:17 PM »
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Uhm... What song is this?  ???

It was a mini guitar/drum solo that was only played on 7/16/1986 in Long Island.

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Re: The Dream Theater Live Archive (UPDATED 12/14)
« Reply #68 on: December 25, 2009, 12:03:53 PM »
Interesting. I wonder if there's a bootleg from this show.

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Re: The Dream Theater Live Archive (UPDATED 12/14)
« Reply #69 on: December 25, 2009, 07:46:58 PM »
Ask Nick.
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