Author Topic: The Metallica thread (merged) (Read 320279 times)

staveoffzombies · « **Reply #35 on:** May 06, 2009, 10:46:53 PM »

Load is a fantastic album and is the best thing Metallica did in the nineties.

Dimitrius · « **Reply #36 on:** May 06, 2009, 10:58:58 PM »

Quote from: staveoffzombies on May 06, 2009, 10:46:53 PM

Load is a fantastic album and is the best thing Metallica did in the nineties.

....It's the best thing they did with original material.

The best thing Metallica did in the 90s was S&M.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #37 on:** May 07, 2009, 02:24:21 PM »

I prefer Reload to Load AND Death Magnetic.

Dimitrius · « **Reply #38 on:** May 07, 2009, 02:30:45 PM »

First time I've heard that.

Why do you prefer it?

Wrath42147 · « **Reply #39 on:** May 07, 2009, 02:39:16 PM »

the black album was the best metallica from the 90's.

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #40 on:** May 07, 2009, 04:32:54 PM »

Taking the black album's strong songs...you know, Sandman? Wherever I May Roam? Nothing Else Matters? against Load's strong songs like Bleeding Me, The Outlaw Torn? Heck, even I like Mama Said better than Nothing Else Matters. I take Load.

Wrath42147 · « **Reply #41 on:** May 07, 2009, 04:49:25 PM »

nothing else matters. aint my bitch 2X4 and all of st anger are the worst metallica songs

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #42 on:** May 07, 2009, 04:51:46 PM »

Nothing Else Matters is more overrated than war, but it's in no way in the bottom list of Metallica songs.

Wrath42147 · « **Reply #43 on:** May 07, 2009, 05:09:55 PM »

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on May 07, 2009, 04:51:46 PM

Nothing Else Matters is more overrated than war, but it's in no way in the bottom list of Metallica songs.

it is

TheOutlawXanadu · « **Reply #44 on:** May 07, 2009, 06:50:23 PM »

I listened to the GH3 version of DM today. That album has a grand total of five good songs.

TWJYL
TEOTL
ANL
CN
MA

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #45 on:** May 07, 2009, 08:12:48 PM »

Good going, Mr. Xanadu. TWJYL is clearly one of the album's bests. "I blind my eyes I try to force it all into a plaaace!"

Dimitrius · « **Reply #46 on:** May 07, 2009, 08:53:29 PM »

Quote from: Wrath42147 on May 07, 2009, 05:09:55 PM

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on May 07, 2009, 04:51:46 PM
Nothing Else Matters is more overrated than war, but it's in no way in the bottom list of Metallica songs.

it is

Hell no, I can think of at least 7-10 I would put before thinking of putting NEM in the bottom list of Metallica songs.

Ouda · « **Reply #47 on:** July 18, 2009, 11:28:30 AM »

K, Death Magnetic is entertaining to listen to James. At the end of practically every phrase, he grunts "AH" Especially in "the day that never comes" and "All nightmare long"...."When your luck runs out, AH" Otherwise it's pretty good musically even with the drums being the same thing they've been for the past 25 years.

Best song by them is Hit the Lights. If only there were a studio version where James voice didnt sound like a teenager going through puberty at that very moment, who also had a sore throat, due to a large badger lodged into his esophagus.

Best album, for me, is between Master of Puppets, and Kill 'em All. Not paying any attention to the production value, but the songs themselves.

Can't wait to see them in Ottawa in September/November, I can't remember.

Dimitrius · « **Reply #48 on:** July 18, 2009, 11:46:18 AM »

Hit the Lights is a an awesome song indeed.

Progmetty · « **Reply #49 on:** July 18, 2009, 12:54:34 PM »

Dimitrius can you start a DM survivor? just to see how we feel about the songs now!

Dimitrius · « **Reply #50 on:** July 18, 2009, 12:58:59 PM »

Quote from: metty on July 18, 2009, 12:54:34 PM

Dimitrius can you start a DM survivor? just to see how we feel about the songs now!

Zeltar has done the Metallica survivor for the last 2 years, I'll let him run it.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #51 on:** July 18, 2009, 02:48:34 PM »

Quote from: Dimitrius on May 07, 2009, 02:30:45 PM

First time I've heard that.

Why do you prefer it?

I love the vibe of Reload. Its dark and sleazy. Load is quite mid paced and bluesy by comparison. Oh and Death Magnetic sounds completely forced. Ok, the songs are better than St Anger, but St Anger has an energy that is sorely lacking on Death Magnetic, which they tried to create with digital distortion.

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #52 on:** July 18, 2009, 04:21:57 PM »

I'M MADLY IN ANGER WITH YOU

SET IT FREEEEEY!

Yes, I kinda see where you're going

Dublagent66 · « **Reply #53 on:** July 18, 2009, 04:34:59 PM »

I sure hope Metallica makes a good album.

Oh wait...

Dimitrius · « **Reply #54 on:** July 18, 2009, 04:36:19 PM »

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 18, 2009, 04:21:57 PM

I'M MADLY IN ANGER WITH YOU

SET IT FREEEEEY!

Yes, I kinda see where you're going

KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #55 on:** July 18, 2009, 04:40:44 PM »

FRAN TIC TIC TIC TIC TIC TIC

TOC

ariich · « **Reply #56 on:** July 19, 2009, 05:53:55 AM »

Quote from: staveoffzombies on May 06, 2009, 10:46:53 PM

Load is a fantastic album and is the best thing Metallica did in the nineties.

This.

My second favourite Metallica album overall.

Fluffy Lothario · « **Reply #57 on:** July 19, 2009, 06:37:01 AM »

Quote from: Dimitrius on May 06, 2009, 10:58:58 PM

Quote from: staveoffzombies on May 06, 2009, 10:46:53 PM
Load is a fantastic album and is the best thing Metallica did in the nineties.
....It's the best thing they did with original material.

The best thing Metallica did in the 90s was S&M.

A lot of S & M is really really cool, possibly better than the best of Load (after all, Outlaw Torn and Bleeding Me are basically Load's best, and there are arguably better versions of both on S & M), but for all its great tracks, there are songs where I personally go, "why the hell did they feel THIS needed orchestral treatment?" I mean, Fuel? Are you kidding me? Of Wolf and Man? The Memory Remains? Sad But True?

So the best is brilliant, but it gets dragged down a hell of a lot. Load has a few dud tracks too, but it's far more consistent, and better overall.

Oh, and need I say S & M as an idea instantly failed cos they neglected to include Orion, and whoever was involved in this catastrophe of a decision should be banished to an extremely smelly and uncomfortable place.

ariich · « **Reply #58 on:** July 19, 2009, 12:32:29 PM »

Quote from: Fluffy Lothario on July 19, 2009, 06:37:01 AM

there are songs where I personally go, "why the hell did they feel THIS needed orchestral treatment?" I mean, Fuel? Are you kidding me? Of Wolf and Man? The Memory Remains? Sad But True?

Wtf man?! I mean Fuel yeah, that was ridiculous, and the last 2 maybe didn't need it but they still sound cool, but Of Wolf and Man is massively improved by the orchestrations, which make it sound really creepy and atmospheric!

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #59 on:** July 19, 2009, 01:08:43 PM »

Yeah, there are only a couple of handful songs that weren't helped a lot by the orchestra; but as a whole, S&M added a new dimention to Metallica's music. I can no longer listen to the studio version of The Thing that Should not Be, for example.

Dimitrius · « **Reply #60 on:** July 19, 2009, 01:59:04 PM »

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 19, 2009, 01:08:43 PM

Yeah, there are only a couple of handful songs that weren't helped a lot by the orchestra; but as a whole, S&M added a new dimention to Metallica's music. I can no longer listen to the studio version of The Thing that Should not Be, for example.

The Call of Ktulu is another example.

Fluffy Lothario · « **Reply #61 on:** July 19, 2009, 04:08:27 PM »

Quote from: ariich on July 19, 2009, 12:32:29 PM

Quote from: Fluffy Lothario on July 19, 2009, 06:37:01 AM
there are songs where I personally go, "why the hell did they feel THIS needed orchestral treatment?" I mean, Fuel? Are you kidding me? Of Wolf and Man? The Memory Remains? Sad But True?

Wtf man?! I mean Fuel yeah, that was ridiculous, and the last 2 maybe didn't need it but they still sound cool, but Of Wolf and Man is massively improved by the orchestrations, which make it sound really creepy and atmospheric!

Well, I probably feel that way about Of Wolf and Man cos I just straight out don't like that song.

Jamariquay · « **Reply #62 on:** July 19, 2009, 07:57:26 PM »

I find every song on S&M vastly superior to the respective album version save for Of Wolf And Man, Devil's Dance, and Enter Sandman.

Well, Master Of Puppets, I can go either way on. I don't like how they slowed it down as much as they did, and I've never liked how James lets the audience sing half the song. On the other hand, the transition between Ktulu and Puppets is perfect, and I generally like the orchestrated parts for that song very much. And fuck, it's Master Of Puppets.

Dimitrius · « **Reply #63 on:** July 19, 2009, 08:04:19 PM »

Quote from: Jamariquay on July 19, 2009, 07:57:26 PM

I find every song on S&M vastly superior to the respective album version save for Of Wolf And Man, Devil's Dance, and Enter Sandman.

Well, Master Of Puppets, I can go either way on. I don't like how they slowed it down as much as they did, and I've never liked how James lets the audience sing half the song. On the other hand, the transition between Ktulu and Puppets is perfect, and I generally like the orchestrated parts for that song very much. And fuck, it's Master Of Puppets.

It doesn't sound good when you're hearing a recording, but when you're there in the concert and he says "you sing it!" I bet you won't have a problem then.

MetalJunkie · « **Reply #64 on:** July 19, 2009, 08:06:23 PM »

Quote from: ariich on July 19, 2009, 12:32:29 PM

Quote from: Fluffy Lothario on July 19, 2009, 06:37:01 AM
there are songs where I personally go, "why the hell did they feel THIS needed orchestral treatment?" I mean, Fuel? Are you kidding me? Of Wolf and Man? The Memory Remains? Sad But True?

Wtf man?! I mean Fuel yeah, that was ridiculous, and the last 2 maybe didn't need it but they still sound cool, but Of Wolf and Man is massively improved by the orchestrations, which make it sound really creepy and atmospheric!

I'm glad they included Of Wolf and Man simply for the "Of Wolfgang and Man" joke.

Dimitrius · « **Reply #65 on:** July 19, 2009, 08:07:03 PM »

Jamariquay · « **Reply #66 on:** July 19, 2009, 08:50:12 PM »

Quote from: Dimitrius on July 19, 2009, 08:04:19 PM

Quote from: Jamariquay on July 19, 2009, 07:57:26 PM
I find every song on S&M vastly superior to the respective album version save for Of Wolf And Man, Devil's Dance, and Enter Sandman.

Well, Master Of Puppets, I can go either way on. I don't like how they slowed it down as much as they did, and I've never liked how James lets the audience sing half the song. On the other hand, the transition between Ktulu and Puppets is perfect, and I generally like the orchestrated parts for that song very much. And fuck, it's Master Of Puppets.
It doesn't sound good when you're hearing a recording, but when you're there in the concert and he says "you sing it!" I bet you won't have a problem then.

Agreed. I still think that it doesnt work very well for the recording though

Dimitrius · « **Reply #67 on:** July 19, 2009, 08:51:29 PM »

Quote from: Jamariquay on July 19, 2009, 08:50:12 PM

Quote from: Dimitrius on July 19, 2009, 08:04:19 PM
Quote from: Jamariquay on July 19, 2009, 07:57:26 PM
I find every song on S&M vastly superior to the respective album version save for Of Wolf And Man, Devil's Dance, and Enter Sandman.

Well, Master Of Puppets, I can go either way on. I don't like how they slowed it down as much as they did, and I've never liked how James lets the audience sing half the song. On the other hand, the transition between Ktulu and Puppets is perfect, and I generally like the orchestrated parts for that song very much. And fuck, it's Master Of Puppets.
It doesn't sound good when you're hearing a recording, but when you're there in the concert and he says "you sing it!" I bet you won't have a problem then.

Agreed. I still think that it doesnt work very well for the recording though

It does not, but since the live recording is trying to capture how the band is live, it's kinda necessary.

Jamariquay · « **Reply #68 on:** July 19, 2009, 08:54:17 PM »

Fair enough. Either way, it's certainly not a deal-breaker for me.

Dimitrius · « **Reply #69 on:** July 19, 2009, 08:57:17 PM »

I would like less "-AH!".

News: Track-by-track video for Fall Into the Light: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ezfzdMpRc0

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