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Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« on: October 21, 2009, 02:17:16 PM »
Now, if I am not mistaken, Squier is a shit company, but I remember reading somewhere that once, Squier was actually like the way Epiphone or LTD is now. Bcause I think I actually have a guitar from that period. It is Korean made and it plays great, and doesn't sound half bad. Anybody know if this actually is from the time period in which Squier was not a shit company?
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2009, 02:19:27 PM »
There is still a large community of people who enjoy Squiers (new and old). With a little modding and tweaking, a Squier can become an extremely competent guitar. The new Classic Vibe series actually looks pretty cool.

A discussion forum: https://www.strat-talk.com/forum/squier-strat-forum/
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2009, 02:21:40 PM »
If I gave you the serial number would you know what year it was from?
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2009, 02:42:41 PM »
Sweet, so apparently my guitar is a Saehan(Sunghan) made Squier made in 1993. Is it good, no clue.
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2009, 02:43:14 PM »
What do you mean, no clue? How does it play?
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2009, 02:47:33 PM »
It plays pretty good, neck is smooth, the thing is the bridge was replaced and the pickups are staring to get shot, so I wanted to know if this was a decent enough guitar (wood wise) to stick these https://www.guitarcenter.com/Lace-Holy-Grail-Noiseless-Pickup-3-Pack-305413-i1167958.gc in it, or would it be a waste?
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2009, 03:02:11 PM »
If the guitar feels good to you, then give it a go. Those pickups will definitely make a big difference. If you don't like how it plays then it's not worth it.
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2009, 03:32:16 PM »
how do you know the pickups are getting shot?

As with any other instrument or brand there are definitely instruments that stand out against the others and for some reason are just amazing, I have an 80s Epiphone strat which has been modded to hell, but plays and sounds great.
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2009, 03:36:40 PM »
I plug in and half the time they sound, the other half, they don't. Plus, it would be cool to get some of those noiseless p'ups in them. Perfect for late 60's0-80's blues rock.
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2009, 05:46:47 PM »
It could just be faulty wiring and not so much the pickups.
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2009, 07:13:53 PM »
Quote from: Fuzzboy on October 21, 2009, 05:46:47 PM
It could just be faulty wiring and not so much the pickups.

This. In my experience at least, the electronics in Squiers are complete shit.
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2009, 07:14:54 PM »
Then its not worth it..I just gotta use my Jackson for everything...no biggie.
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2009, 07:15:15 PM »
Quote from: Fuzzboy on October 21, 2009, 05:46:47 PM
It could just be faulty wiring and not so much the pickups.

This is more than likely exactly what it is. My Gibson SG had this going on, and if i toggled the pickup switch a couple time it would go away. Never fixed it, because it seemed to fix itself for the time being.
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2009, 07:15:43 PM »
wait... not worth it? huh? its like the easiest fix on a guitar.
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2009, 07:16:07 PM »
Quote from: brakkum on October 21, 2009, 07:15:43 PM
wait... not worth it? huh? its like the easiest fix on a guitar.

Yeah wtf?
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2009, 07:17:09 PM »
Plus the p'ups and all that just to get a tone that I really like but the thing is, I'll never play it. Because the second I block the floyd on my Jackson, I'll tune it down stupid low and do some crazy shit and that is all I'm gonna dig.
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2009, 07:20:06 PM »
...

alrighty then
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2009, 07:23:12 PM »
Is there anything more epicly metal then a crunchy riff at like Drop A.
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2009, 07:34:38 PM »
Quote from: 73109 on October 21, 2009, 07:23:12 PM
Is there anything more epicly metal then a crunchy riff at like Drop A.

Yes. Drop G. But I've always found that it's really hard to write music in that tuning.
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2009, 07:36:39 PM »
How about E...6 STEPS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2009, 07:38:31 PM »
Quote from: 73109 on October 21, 2009, 07:23:12 PM
Is there anything more epicly metal then a crunchy riff at like Drop A.

An actual good riff in E standard.
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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2009, 07:39:48 PM »
But then take that riff...drop it and you got something even more epic :2metal:
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2009, 07:41:44 PM »
Quote from: Sigz on October 21, 2009, 07:38:31 PM
Quote from: 73109 on October 21, 2009, 07:23:12 PM
Is there anything more epicly metal then a crunchy riff at like Drop A.

An actual good riff in E standard.

True.
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2009, 07:42:15 PM »
Quote from: 73109 on October 21, 2009, 07:36:39 PM
How about E...6 STEPS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2009, 07:43:21 PM »
I have no problem with E, but it just seems to always have something missing...if the slight change to Eb makes things much heavier!
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2009, 07:46:05 PM »
I don't know, at least to me tuning has little to do with how heavy something is. Shit, look at Opeth - virtually all of their stuff (except the entirety of GR) is in E-standard, and it's heavy as fuck.
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2009, 07:47:10 PM »
A lot of it is the amp...but tuning down always helps.
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2009, 07:47:44 PM »
Dimmu Borgir plays in E standard, and they are in the dictionary next to the words epic and heavy
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2009, 07:48:56 PM »
Quote from: 73109 on October 21, 2009, 07:47:10 PM
A lot of it is the amp...but tuning down always helps.

No, heaviness relies completely on whether it's a good riff or not.
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2009, 07:50:14 PM »
Quote from: Fuzzboy on October 21, 2009, 07:42:15 PM
Quote from: 73109 on October 21, 2009, 07:36:39 PM
How about E...6 STEPS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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There is no music for the first 6 minutes so far


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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2009, 07:52:00 PM »
Hey dudes...ready for the fail of the year...My headphones were not in!!! :lolpalm:
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2009, 07:52:10 PM »
Quote from: 73109 on October 21, 2009, 07:47:10 PM
A lot of it is the amp...but tuning down always helps.

You're putting far too much emphasis on tuning and equipment and not on good songwriting. In the end, everything comes down to what notes you're actually playing - everything else is secondary. There's a video somewhere on youtube of this guy doing an acoustic version of Blackwater Park by Opeth, and it's still evil as hell because the riffs are good.

Quote from: 73109 on October 21, 2009, 07:50:14 PM
Quote from: Fuzzboy on October 21, 2009, 07:42:15 PM
Quote from: 73109 on October 21, 2009, 07:36:39 PM
How about E...6 STEPS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Porcupine Tree - Circle of Manias

There is no music for the first 6 minutes so far

...

Circle of Manias is 2 minutes long, so I have no idea what the fuck you're listening to.
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2009, 07:53:20 PM »
Quote from: 73109 on October 21, 2009, 07:50:14 PM
Quote from: Fuzzboy on October 21, 2009, 07:42:15 PM
Quote from: 73109 on October 21, 2009, 07:36:39 PM
How about E...6 STEPS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Porcupine Tree - Circle of Manias

There is no music for the first 6 minutes so far

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What?

Here's the vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAhahAR9qaQ

It's at 7:43
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Re: Anybody know what period Squier was actually a decent sub. for Fender?
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2009, 07:55:09 PM »
OK, the riff is the most important and the tuning and the amp is also very important...Think about this...The riff for Man in the Box (which I personally believe is one of the best and most simple riffs fall time) is stupid heavy...now tune the guitar to C...It is the same riff, but it went from 95% heavy to 195% heavy...
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