Follow up albums that equalled or topped a landmark album

[Setlist Scotty]

While some may argue about content, purely in terms of sales, I am *shocked* that Def Leppard with Hysteria following up Pyromania hasn't been listed by anyone. I'd also think that Bon Jovi's New Jersey was a very good followup to Slippery When Wet.

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

While some may argue about content, purely in terms of sales, I am *shocked* that Def Leppard with Hysteria following up Pyromania hasn't been listed by anyone. I'd also think that Bon Jovi's New Jersey was a very good followup to Slippery When Wet.

To me, both of those were massive letdowns.

[TAC]

While some may argue about content, purely in terms of sales, I am *shocked* that Def Leppard with Hysteria following up Pyromania hasn't been listed by anyone. I'd also think that Bon Jovi's New Jersey was a very good followup to Slippery When Wet.

Why? Hysteria fucking blows.


New Jersey is all kinds of awesome though.

[Setlist Scotty]

While some may argue about content, purely in terms of sales, I am *shocked* that Def Leppard with Hysteria following up Pyromania hasn't been listed by anyone. I'd also think that Bon Jovi's New Jersey was a very good followup to Slippery When Wet.

To me, both of those were massive letdowns.

To you and some of the people here, sure, but to the wider audience Hysteria is probably even more popular than Pyromania, and I expect that New Jersey is probably right up there with Slippery When Wet even if not as universally revered.

[Max Kuehnau]

To keep the thread connected to DT, to me these are Dramatic Turn and DT12
(and possibly I/W and Awake, if you're partial to MP era DT)

[pg1067]

Disconnected following A Pleasant Shade of Gray

I'm curious about this.  In the FW countdown, you ranked the 11 tracks of APSOG (X & XI were combined) as your #1-11 songs (and I believe you commented that, had we done APSOG as a single song, it would have been your number 1).  However, you had the five tracks on Disconnected (not including the two parts of the title track) as your 12, 15, 21, 28 and 36 songs.  So how is Disconnected as good as or better than APSOG?

While some may argue about content, purely in terms of sales, I am *shocked* that Def Leppard with Hysteria following up Pyromania hasn't been listed by anyone. I'd also think that Bon Jovi's New Jersey was a very good followup to Slippery When Wet.

Why? Hysteria fucking blows.

Yeah...Hysteria was, IMO, one of the worst things to happen to metal in the '80s.  If this were just a matter of sales, then we could just look up the numbers and compare.  I don't know when the certifications were received, but both albums are certified Diamond, with Pyromania at 10M and Hysteria at 12M.

To keep the thread connected to DT, to me these are Dramatic Turn and DT12
(and possibly I/W and Awake, if you're partial to MP era DT)

I'm one of the few who would agree that DT12 > ADTOE, but would you really call ADTOE a "landmark" album?

[Max Kuehnau]

to me it very much is yes

[HOF]

While some may argue about content, purely in terms of sales, I am *shocked* that Def Leppard with Hysteria following up Pyromania hasn't been listed by anyone. I'd also think that Bon Jovi's New Jersey was a very good followup to Slippery When Wet.

I would put Hysteria above Pyromania, but I'd also probably consider Hysteria to be the landmark album of those two, and then I would say that Adrenalize was a step down. But Hysteria following Pyromania certainly makes sense as an answer.

[Architeuthis]

Permanent Waves and then Moving Pictures

[SoundscapeMN]

Disconnected following A Pleasant Shade of Gray

I'm curious about this.  In the FW countdown, you ranked the 11 tracks of APSOG (X & XI were combined) as your #1-11 songs (and I believe you commented that, had we done APSOG as a single song, it would have been your number 1).  However, you had the five tracks on Disconnected (not including the two parts of the title track) as your 12, 15, 21, 28 and 36 songs.  So how is Disconnected as good as or better than APSOG?

it's mostly based on total listening time. As much as I love APSOG, I don't listen to it as often as Disconnected, mostly due to the fact APSOG I listen to all-at-once, as I consider it 1 song. And APSOG is bit more of a mood record.

But in ranking their albumss, I would not place Disconnected ahead of APSOG, however given I listen to it more often I see it in some ways as about as good as APSOG.

[Indiscipline]

Possibly a hot take, but:

RHCP: One Hot Minute following Blood Sugar Sex Magic

[TAC]

Possibly a hot take, but:

RHCP: One Hot Minute following Blood Sugar Sex Magic

One Hot Minute is awesome, and is one of two RHCP albums that I actually own.

[wolfking]

These are probably a stretch but meh.....

Helloween - Keeper 2 after 1
Children of Bodom - Follow the Repear after Hatebreeder
In Flames - Clayman after Colony
Savatage - Streets after Gutter Ballet
King Diamon - Them after Abigail
Joe Satriani - Flying in a Blue Dream after Surfing with the Alien

[TAC]

These are probably a stretch but meh.....

Helloween - Keeper 2 after 1

No stretch here.

[wolfking]

These are probably a stretch but meh.....

Helloween - Keeper 2 after 1

No stretch here.

Except K1 is superior. 

[TAC]

These are probably a stretch but meh.....

Helloween - Keeper 2 after 1

No stretch here.

Except K1 is superior. 

K1 changed my musical life, and K2 cemented it.

[wolfking]

Whichever you prefer, both undeniable.

[Sacul]

Kid A
In Utero
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence

[Glasser]

Slave to the Grind over Skid Row s/t.
Badlands "Voodoo Highway" as good as s/t.
Yngwie Marching Out over Rising Force.
The Last In Line as good as Holy Diver.

[HOF]

Kid A
In Utero
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence

I was considering Kid A for sure.

[WardySI]

Lots agree with but trying think of ones not mentioned that were as good if not better...

Tesla's Great Radio Controversy after Mechanical Res...
Megadeth's Countdown To Extinction after Rust In Peace...
Aerosmith's Pump after Permanent Vacation...
Huey Lewis And The News' Fore after Sports...
Soundgarden's Superunknown after Badmotorfinger...
Sevendust's Animosity after Home
Stone Temple Pilots' Purple after Core
Van Halen's OU812 after 5150
Noiseworks' Touch after their debut

And to round out 10 my controversial dare I say unpopular choice would be Whitesnake's Slip Of The Tongue after 1987...

There I said it 

[billboy73]

Possibly a hot take, but:

RHCP: One Hot Minute following Blood Sugar Sex Magic

Definitely a hot take.  I love One Hot Minute, but I can't put it over BSSM.

A couple others just mentioned that I agree with:

Kid A >>>> OK Computer

STP Purple >>>> Core

[pg1067]

These are probably a stretch but meh.....

Helloween - Keeper 2 after 1

No stretch here.

Except K1 is superior. 

Shit...I don't know how to choose between the two.  They're both incredible.

Van Halen's OU812 after 5150

There's a HOT take.

[EPICVIEW]

VH

VH II

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

Van Halen's OU812 after 5150

There's a HOT take.

Yeah, as Wildranger would say, this is objectively wrong

[Stadler]

Van Halen's OU812 after 5150

There's a HOT take.

Yeah, as Wildranger would say, this is objectively wrong

Obs.  5150 isn't a landmark album.

[Trav86]

While some may argue about content, purely in terms of sales, I am *shocked* that Def Leppard with Hysteria following up Pyromania hasn't been listed by anyone. I'd also think that Bon Jovi's New Jersey was a very good followup to Slippery When Wet.

I got you…

Def Leppard Hysteria > Pyromania
Van Halen 5150 = 1984
Rush A Farewell to Kings > 2112

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

Van Halen's OU812 after 5150

There's a HOT take.

Yeah, as Wildranger would say, this is objectively wrong

Obs.  5150 isn't a landmark album.

Ouch!

[EPICVIEW]

OZZY- BLIZZARD OF OZZ

OZZY- DIARY OF A MADMAN

[pg1067]

Judas Priest - Defenders of the Faith >/= Screaming for Vengeance >> British Steel

While this is true, I completely forgot about Point of Entry (which doesn't get as much credit as I think it should, but it doesn't work for purposes of this thread).

[Stadler]

While some may argue about content, purely in terms of sales, I am *shocked* that Def Leppard with Hysteria following up Pyromania hasn't been listed by anyone. I'd also think that Bon Jovi's New Jersey was a very good followup to Slippery When Wet.

I got you…

Def Leppard Hysteria > Pyromania
Van Halen 5150 = 1984
Rush A Farewell to Kings > 2112

THIS ONE I'll buy into.   I'd vote for Rock and Roll Over >> Destroyer too.

Again, though, we're sort of straining credibility with the label "landmark album".   

[WardySI]

Van Halen's OU812 after 5150

There's a HOT take.

Yeah, as Wildranger would say, this is objectively wrong

Obs.  5150 isn't a landmark album.

Ouch!

C'mon of course it was. 

New singer hit the #1 spot still dividing fans to this day 

But yeah I loved OU812 never ever understood the dislike for it (production aside but that could also be said of 5150).

[Stadler]

Van Halen's OU812 after 5150

There's a HOT take.

Yeah, as Wildranger would say, this is objectively wrong

Obs.  5150 isn't a landmark album.

Ouch!

C'mon of course it was. 

New singer hit the #1 spot still dividing fans to this day 

But yeah I loved OU812 never ever understood the dislike for it (production aside but that could also be said of 5150).

For the record, I'm with you; at times, OU812 is my favorite VH record with Sam.

[LithoJazzoSphere]

Entombed with Left Hand Path and Clandestine.

The Tea Party with The Edges of Twilight, Transmission, and Triptych. 

[TAC]

For the record, I'm with you; at times, OU812 is my favorite VH record with Sam.

Same here. OU812 is the one Sammy album that most reminds me of the DLR Era.