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Given the pressures of the industry, do you think DT will turn to crowdfunding or kickstarter to pay for the new album?

Yes
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No
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It Depends, and I will elaborate further in a reply
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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #105 on: March 07, 2024, 09:08:28 AM »
Not to throw shade on any names in particular I definitely got a vibe from some people that they know better than everyone else and there's sometimes a bit of a bully mentality when someone else has a different view. I feel old at 32 but definitely feel at times some of the older people (not all) have that "I'm older and therefor wiser" holier-than-thou personality.

Thank you also for voicing this. I have felt this vibe here many many times and honestly it's almost pushed me away.

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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #106 on: March 07, 2024, 09:18:29 AM »
I would think that this group collectively - as we represent the fandom of the greatest band on earth - would want to act a bit less exclusive and a bit more mature.

Oh, heck no!  Exclusivity and immaturity are a hallmark.

**Smiling, nodding** Ok, well... thank you for keeping it light.

And I STILL want a James plushie!  :lol But please throw in a Jordan plushie as well, because it hurts to have your class president run out of town. Who will joke around with me now about LOTR and keyboard wizards in sequinned capes? 😭 I feel bereft. 

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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #107 on: March 07, 2024, 09:22:13 AM »
Not to throw shade on any names in particular I definitely got a vibe from some people that they know better than everyone else and there's sometimes a bit of a bully mentality when someone else has a different view. I feel old at 32 but definitely feel at times some of the older people (not all) have that "I'm older and therefor wiser" holier-than-thou personality.

Thank you also for voicing this. I have felt this vibe here many many times and honestly it's almost pushed me away.

I was 30 when I joined and now I am 43. I never felt there was any bullying here. This place is very tame compared to Reddit or cesspools like Twatter & the YouTube comment section.
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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #108 on: March 07, 2024, 09:22:40 AM »
The problem is lying and not owning up to it. Makes me wonder if all of his "Hey guys I heard this rumor" were just things he made up. I really hope he didn't make up that thing about having a disability as well.

That's the point, we don't know, and to accuse someone of "deliberate lying" when he may have been joking - and then wondering whether his disability was also a lie, well, that's the frosting on the cake.

Has Sir HoJo ever admitted he just made something up as a joke? Honest question. And by the way, I thought he was funny and I don't want to see him banned whether he's a legit troll or not.


Did he ever admit to anything? No I don’t think so. But most the lies…er…”Jokes” or whatever that he posted were easily verifiably false.

Look, I think sticking up for the little guy and the underdog is admirable, but HoSoJo was just a troll. Plain and simple. He’s not worth sticking up for.

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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #109 on: March 07, 2024, 09:23:16 AM »
NO CAPES!

But otherwise, I'm happy to oblige. 

And apparently, you can custom make a James plushie if you want here:  https://www.etsy.com/listing/1028559887/pirate-custom-plush-stuffed-with-photo?gpla=1&gao=1&

I'm bummed the JLB action figurrr video no longer exists.  Did you watch the videos for the Jordan and JP ones?


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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #110 on: March 07, 2024, 09:27:05 AM »
I'll admit I didn't find HoJo's posts productive or possibly even sincere but what does that say that they tended to create the most discussion, even if it was from people mainly complaining about HoJo?

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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #111 on: March 07, 2024, 09:27:59 AM »
Did he ever admit to anything? No I don’t think so. But most the lies…er…”Jokes” or whatever that he posted were easily verifiably false.

Look, I think sticking up for the little guy and the underdog is admirable, but HoSoJo was just a troll. Plain and simple. He’s not worth sticking up for.

I think as you say "verifiably false" indicates that he knew it was a farce? I've seen trolls before, haven't we all, and typically they don't stick around for that long trying so hard to belong. 😔

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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #112 on: March 07, 2024, 09:29:38 AM »
NO CAPES!

But otherwise, I'm happy to oblige. 

And apparently, you can custom make a James plushie if you want here:  https://www.etsy.com/listing/1028559887/pirate-custom-plush-stuffed-with-photo?gpla=1&gao=1&

I'm bummed the JLB action figurrr video no longer exists.  Did you watch the videos for the Jordan and JP ones?


EDIT:  Shut up, Herrick!  The cool older kids are talking!

I posted in the previous page that while it doesn't exist, it can be seen here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDSNyeUsAqM&t=187s
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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #113 on: March 07, 2024, 09:31:23 AM »
Oh, cool!  I missed that.  :tup

EDIT:  In the entire history of DT, that intermission video montage for that tour was one of the coolest things they have EVER done for the fans.  As much as MP has spearheaded some really amazing things for fans, they really nailed it on that.
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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #114 on: March 07, 2024, 09:37:32 AM »
NO CAPES!

But otherwise, I'm happy to oblige.

😪😪 **Sniffling** Thank you... 

And apparently, you can custom make a James plushie if you want here:  https://www.etsy.com/listing/1028559887/pirate-custom-plush-stuffed-with-photo?gpla=1&gao=1&

Oh thank you, lol I just may treat myself!  :lol :biggrin:

I'm bummed the JLB action figurrr video no longer exists.  Did you watch the videos for the Jordan and JP ones?

I haven't yet, it's been hard enough keeping up with this thread amidst the demands of real life. But it's on my to do list as I need this.  :)

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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #115 on: March 07, 2024, 09:42:28 AM »
Well whatever happens in this thread, I still want a James plushie ✨✨🤭
Yeah,  you and me both.  I would offer you an action figurrrrrr, but apparently the video no longer exists.   :-[
Wait, what?!?!? This actually once existed?!?!?!! 😱😭
Videos did for several of the band members, created by one of the guys who used to frequent this message board regularly (and may still visit the non-DT parts, I think). Looks like Blob took down most of the videos on his YT channel, but fortunately JR still has his action figurrrr on his YT channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXFefLdd1HI

The Petrucci video can be viewed here:  https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1070790529662954  The * disclaimers are absolutely hilarious.

The JLB video appears to be gone, and I don't think he ever did JM or MP.  I was really looking forward to what he might have done with JM.
It's not the video itself, but it can be seen here at 3:08

https://youtu.be/pDSNyeUsAqM?feature=shared&t=187

I got back to this video every so often for some laughs. I wish they would bring this back during intermission.

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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #116 on: March 07, 2024, 09:50:36 AM »
Not to throw shade on any names in particular I definitely got a vibe from some people that they know better than everyone else and there's sometimes a bit of a bully mentality when someone else has a different view. I feel old at 32 but definitely feel at times some of the older people (not all) have that "I'm older and therefor wiser" holier-than-thou personality.

Thank you also for voicing this. I have felt this vibe here many many times and honestly it's almost pushed me away.

I was 30 when I joined and now I am 43. I never felt there was any bullying here. This place is very tame compared to Reddit or cesspools like Twatter & the YouTube comment section.

Trust me, I agree. Although I'm not the most active I've been here for quite a while myself. It's definitely a good place. But I've seen this happen from time to time, you've got a bunch of long timers with their own set of in jokes and things like that, then a new person comes and with some silliness and a bunch of the Old Guard don't like feeling out of the loop.

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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #117 on: March 07, 2024, 09:52:24 AM »
NO CAPES!

But otherwise, I'm happy to oblige. 

And apparently, you can custom make a James plushie if you want here:  https://www.etsy.com/listing/1028559887/pirate-custom-plush-stuffed-with-photo?gpla=1&gao=1&

I'm bummed the JLB action figurrr video no longer exists.  Did you watch the videos for the Jordan and JP ones?


EDIT:  Shut up, Herrick!  The cool older kids are talking!

You big bully *rubs tear from eye, shakes first, runs away*
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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #118 on: March 07, 2024, 09:53:57 AM »
Not to throw shade on any names in particular I definitely got a vibe from some people that they know better than everyone else and there's sometimes a bit of a bully mentality when someone else has a different view. I feel old at 32 but definitely feel at times some of the older people (not all) have that "I'm older and therefor wiser" holier-than-thou personality.

Thank you also for voicing this. I have felt this vibe here many many times and honestly it's almost pushed me away.

I was 30 when I joined and now I am 43. I never felt there was any bullying here. This place is very tame compared to Reddit or cesspools like Twatter & the YouTube comment section.

Trust me, I agree. Although I'm not the most active I've been here for quite a while myself. It's definitely a good place. But I've seen this happen from time to time, you've got a bunch of long timers with their own set of in jokes and things like that, then a new person comes and with some silliness and a bunch of the Old Guard don't like feeling out of the loop.

I've been here since 2011 but I'm not in on a lot of the in-jokes. I don't mind.
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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #119 on: March 07, 2024, 09:54:44 AM »
Not to throw shade on any names in particular I definitely got a vibe from some people that they know better than everyone else and there's sometimes a bit of a bully mentality when someone else has a different view. I feel old at 32 but definitely feel at times some of the older people (not all) have that "I'm older and therefor wiser" holier-than-thou personality.

Thank you also for voicing this. I have felt this vibe here many many times and honestly it's almost pushed me away.

I was 30 when I joined and now I am 43. I never felt there was any bullying here. This place is very tame compared to Reddit or cesspools like Twatter & the YouTube comment section.

Trust me, I agree. Although I'm not the most active I've been here for quite a while myself. It's definitely a good place. But I've seen this happen from time to time, you've got a bunch of long timers with their own set of in jokes and things like that, then a new person comes and with some silliness and a bunch of the Old Guard don't like feeling out of the loop.

I've been here since 2011 but I'm not in on a lot of the in-jokes. I don't mind.
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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #120 on: March 07, 2024, 09:55:59 AM »
Not to throw shade on any names in particular I definitely got a vibe from some people that they know better than everyone else and there's sometimes a bit of a bully mentality when someone else has a different view. I feel old at 32 but definitely feel at times some of the older people (not all) have that "I'm older and therefor wiser" holier-than-thou personality.

Thank you also for voicing this. I have felt this vibe here many many times and honestly it's almost pushed me away.

I was 30 when I joined and now I am 43. I never felt there was any bullying here. This place is very tame compared to Reddit or cesspools like Twatter & the YouTube comment section.

Trust me, I agree. Although I'm not the most active I've been here for quite a while myself. It's definitely a good place. But I've seen this happen from time to time, you've got a bunch of long timers with their own set of in jokes and things like that, then a new person comes and with some silliness and a bunch of the Old Guard don't like feeling out of the loop.

I've been here since 2011 but I'm not in on a lot of the in-jokes. I don't mind.
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« Reply #121 on: March 07, 2024, 09:57:27 AM »
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« Reply #122 on: March 07, 2024, 11:30:49 AM »
I consider myself both an old-timer and a newbie here. I've been around forever, but have not really participated much over the last 13 years. I just wasn't feeling much DT excitement during that time period. So I feel as if I have a lot of catching up to do.  :)
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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #123 on: March 07, 2024, 11:32:35 AM »
Now we just gotta get gazinwales active again so that we can have competing Graham B's to create confusion, just like in the old YML days!   :biggrin:
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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #124 on: March 07, 2024, 11:59:29 AM »
Now we just gotta get gazinwales active again so that we can have competing Graham B's to create confusion, just like in the old YML days!   :biggrin:
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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #126 on: March 07, 2024, 12:02:03 PM »
Responding to the original post.

No. And not sure why anyone would think that.  :lol
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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #127 on: March 08, 2024, 11:09:16 AM »
I'll admit I didn't find HoJo's posts productive or possibly even sincere but what does that say that they tended to create the most discussion, even if it was from people mainly complaining about HoJo?

In truth. It's so quiet here today. 😞

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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #128 on: March 08, 2024, 11:12:42 AM »
I'll admit I didn't find HoJo's posts productive or possibly even sincere but what does that say that they tended to create the most discussion, even if it was from people mainly complaining about HoJo?

In truth. It's so quiet here today. 😞

To be fair, there are a lot more areas of this forum than just the DT subforum. This place tends to get quiet now and again, but lots of other places to check out that are always busy. If you like calling people deplorable, you can join the PR subforum too!
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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #129 on: March 08, 2024, 11:36:02 AM »
I'll admit I didn't find HoJo's posts productive or possibly even sincere but what does that say that they tended to create the most discussion, even if it was from people mainly complaining about HoJo?

In truth. It's so quiet here today. 😞
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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #130 on: March 08, 2024, 11:42:30 AM »

I'll admit I didn't find HoJo's posts productive or possibly even sincere but what does that say that they tended to create the most discussion, even if it was from people mainly complaining about HoJo?

In truth. It's so quiet here today. 😞

To be fair, there are a lot more areas of this forum than just the DT subforum. This place tends to get quiet now and again, but lots of other places to check out that are always busy. If you like calling people deplorable, you can join the PR subforum too!

I had no idea that was a thing! 🤯

Friday is the least busy weekday, especially for the DT side.

Got it. I've lurked occasionally in the General and Music sections but have seldom had much to bring to the table.

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« Reply #131 on: March 08, 2024, 12:00:00 PM »
I'll admit I didn't find HoJo's posts productive or possibly even sincere but what does that say that they tended to create the most discussion, even if it was from people mainly complaining about HoJo?

In truth. It's so quiet here today. 😞

To be fair, there are a lot more areas of this forum than just the DT subforum. This place tends to get quiet now and again, but lots of other places to check out that are always busy. If you like calling people deplorable, you can join the PR subforum too!
Yeah, the busiest area is the General Music Discussion subforum, by far.
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« Reply #132 on: March 08, 2024, 12:03:09 PM »
I'm all for a little trolling, but some of what I've read over the last few months is next level.
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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #133 on: March 08, 2024, 12:50:57 PM »
I'll admit I didn't find HoJo's posts productive or possibly even sincere but what does that say that they tended to create the most discussion, even if it was from people mainly complaining about HoJo?

In truth. It's so quiet here today. 😞

To be fair, there are a lot more areas of this forum than just the DT subforum. This place tends to get quiet now and again, but lots of other places to check out that are always busy. If you like calling people deplorable, you can join the PR subforum too!

I was about to say, who could resist mucking it in the trenches of PR, or checking out extremely interesting ranking thread or song roulette.....

Right.....?

RIGHT......????!

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« Reply #134 on: March 08, 2024, 02:57:43 PM »
I'll admit I didn't find HoJo's posts productive or possibly even sincere but what does that say that they tended to create the most discussion, even if it was from people mainly complaining about HoJo?

In truth. It's so quiet here today. 😞

To be fair, there are a lot more areas of this forum than just the DT subforum. This place tends to get quiet now and again, but lots of other places to check out that are always busy. If you like calling people deplorable, you can join the PR subforum too!

I was about to say, who could resist mucking it in the trenches of PR, or checking out extremely interesting ranking thread or song roulette.....

Right.....?

RIGHT......????!
I know you're being facetious, but the majority of other people around here have interests outside of just Dream Theater.  ::)
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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #135 on: March 08, 2024, 06:12:10 PM »
I'll admit I didn't find HoJo's posts productive or possibly even sincere but what does that say that they tended to create the most discussion, even if it was from people mainly complaining about HoJo?

In truth. It's so quiet here today.

To be fair, there are a lot more areas of this forum than just the DT subforum. This place tends to get quiet now and again, but lots of other places to check out that are always busy. If you like calling people deplorable, you can join the PR subforum too!

I was about to say, who could resist mucking it in the trenches of PR, or checking out extremely interesting ranking thread or song roulette.....

Right.....?

RIGHT......????!

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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #136 on: March 08, 2024, 06:37:29 PM »
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« Reply #137 on: March 13, 2024, 07:00:30 PM »
I'll admit I didn't find HoJo's posts productive or possibly even sincere but what does that say that they tended to create the most discussion, even if it was from people mainly complaining about HoJo?

In truth. It's so quiet here today.

To be fair, there are a lot more areas of this forum than just the DT subforum. This place tends to get quiet now and again, but lots of other places to check out that are always busy. If you like calling people deplorable, you can join the PR subforum too!

I was about to say, who could resist mucking it in the trenches of PR, or checking out extremely interesting ranking thread or song roulette.....

Right.....?

RIGHT......????!

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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #138 on: March 14, 2024, 07:21:33 AM »
Hey all

Just wanted to apologize for this thread. The image of James LaBrie spending his days in the studio eating David Brooks burgers was something that I thought was really amusing personally, and I thought it was funny, but I see now that it wasn't OK to be misleading about what he was doing. I should have either been clearer I was kidding, or not posted this thread to begin with.

I still think it's fun to be silly and occasionally outrageous but there is definitely a time and place for it and I perhaps took it too far in this (and other instances). Sorry about that. Hope you all had a good week!
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Re: Will DT need to crowdfund for the new album?
« Reply #139 on: March 14, 2024, 07:34:44 AM »
I've been observing lately, and between what happened in the donations thread and this thread a sizable number of you should be ashamed of yourselves. You should be goddamn lucky the forum still exists. I honestly wouldn't blame bosk and the mods one iota if they decided to shut the place down.