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LithoJazzoSphere

Quote from: Crow on March 21, 2024, 11:30:12 AM
indi tell me when everyone else has targetted and i'll send mine in because i literally have no reason not to wait until the last minute this time. it's in fact good play to wait as long as possible when you're in last place  :corn

The advantage of picking early is you're more likely to be able to actually target a specific position/player/song.  Picking last means you're just aiming at whatever random target is in that spot when the dust has almost settled. 

Crow

picking last also means you can't get knocked back by someone else later, and if someone else swaps into the spot you're targetting, it means they had a weaker submission than the person you were targetting meaning you're more likely to overtake them

twosuitsluke

Indi, I thought you weren't basing the overtake order on the order participants submitted their overtakes? I'm probably completely wrong though.
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LithoJazzoSphere

Quote from: Crow on March 21, 2024, 12:02:43 PM
picking last also means you can't get knocked back by someone else later, and if someone else swaps into the spot you're targetting, it means they had a weaker submission than the person you were targetting meaning you're more likely to overtake them

True.

Crow

Quote from: twosuitsluke on March 21, 2024, 12:10:29 PM
Indi, I thought you weren't basing the overtake order on the order participants submitted their overtakes? I'm probably completely wrong though.
it is 100% based on it and i've gotten screwed over a ton because of that  :lol

Indiscipline

Quote from: twosuitsluke on March 21, 2024, 12:10:29 PM
Indi, I thought you weren't basing the overtake order on the order participants submitted their overtakes? I'm probably completely wrong though.

The overtake order is indeed based on the timestamp order of the overtake declarations. It would be hatefully arbitrary and unfair otherwise.

Puppies_On_Acid

Quote from: Evermind on May 06, 2024, 07:39:06 AMHey Stadler, your inbox is full.
Quote from: ReaperKK on August 29, 2024, 06:42:26 PMthat distractingly handsome son of a bitch is gonna make it hard
Quote from: Drunk TACThes sng is are sounds rally nece an I lyke tha sungar

LithoJazzoSphere

#5 I bet is Satch.

I think I'm #2 or #4 depending on how it went. 

Indiscipline

#3613
1 – Shevat, the Wind Is Calling
Jazzo – Absolutely captivating
King – Message in a Bottle of Champagne Supernova
4 – Chocolate on tuna
wolfking – Pitch axis masterclass
Evermind – Impeccably sung
7 – I am a fan of exactly 3 acts from the current millennium, you sent one of them.
jingle – You gotta be crazy
9 – Intriguingly Gently Gianty at times.
10 – Smoke and mirrors
lonestar – What I would have loved to find in A View
TAC – A lot of Piece of Mind sounds here
ariich – Prosthetic music with real flesh erupting at the end
Sacul – Feels like it's the same singer for seven consecutive submissions
15 – Harmless song, bitching solo
(Too obviously) romdrums – If I tolerate this, then my children will be next
Stadler - Generation X's Sabbath

wolfking


jingle.boy

Quote from: Crow on March 21, 2024, 12:19:52 PM
Quote from: twosuitsluke on March 21, 2024, 12:10:29 PM
Indi, I thought you weren't basing the overtake order on the order participants submitted their overtakes? I'm probably completely wrong though.
it is 100% based on it and i've gotten screwed over a ton because of that  :lol

I think it can screw people over no matter what.

Let's say I target wolfking, while Stadler targets me.

1) If I successfully get my overtake of wolfking before Stadler targets me, then I'm out of reach of Stadler, and I land in 1st.  If however, he gets his in before me, and (by some fucking miracle) beats me, then I never get the chance to overtake Kade, and I'm in 6th.  On top of that, anyone who targeted Stadler after that is now targeting me. Ergo, I was screwed by waiting to provide my overtake target (at least a 6 spot difference because I submitted after Stadler). 

In the scenario where I target Kade, while Tim also targets Kade.

2) I can be screwed by going to early - let's say Kade's submission is absolute tripe, and I overtake him first, then Tim could knock me down into 7th place if (by another fucking miracle) his submission is better than mine.  If I waited, then I only have a failed attempt at overtaking Tim after he displaces Kade... and I remain in 3rd.  I would have benefited in waiting to provide my target.

So... without knowing who and when others are targeting, the results can be both better or worse sending earlier or later.

Fuck, I really am Litho'g it here with the amount of over-thinking.   :lol
Quote from: Jamesman42 on September 20, 2024, 12:38:03 PM
Quote from: TAC on September 19, 2024, 05:23:01 PMHow is this even possible? Are we playing or what, people??
So I just checked, and, uh, you are one of the two who haven't sent.
Quote from: Puppies_On_Acid on September 20, 2024, 12:46:33 PMTim's roulette police card is hereby revoked!

TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 10, 2024, 11:26:46 AMDISAPPOINTED.. I hoped for something more along the lines of ADTOE.

wolfking

Quote from: jingle.boy on March 21, 2024, 01:05:53 PM
Quote from: Crow on March 21, 2024, 12:19:52 PM
Quote from: twosuitsluke on March 21, 2024, 12:10:29 PM
Indi, I thought you weren't basing the overtake order on the order participants submitted their overtakes? I'm probably completely wrong though.
it is 100% based on it and i've gotten screwed over a ton because of that  :lol

I think it can screw people over no matter what.

Let's say I target wolfking, while Stadler targets me.

1) If I successfully get my overtake of wolfking before Stadler targets me, then I'm out of reach of Stadler, and I land in 1st.  If however, he gets his in before me, and (by some fucking miracle) beats me, then I never get the chance to overtake Kade, and I'm in 6th.  On top of that, anyone who targeted Stadler after that is now targeting me. Ergo, I was screwed by waiting to provide my overtake target (at least a 6 spot difference because I submitted after Stadler). 

In the scenario where I target Kade, while Tim also targets Kade.

2) I can be screwed by going to early - let's say Kade's submission is absolute tripe, and I overtake him first, then Tim could knock me down into 7th place if (by another fucking miracle) his submission is better than mine.  If I waited, then I only have a failed attempt at overtaking Tim after he displaces Kade... and I remain in 3rd.  I would have benefited in waiting to provide my target.

So... without knowing who and when others are targeting, the results can be both better or worse sending earlier or later.

Fuck, I really am Litho'g it here with the amount of over-thinking.   :lol

I see my name, buy I ain't reading all this shit.

jingle.boy

Quote from: Jamesman42 on September 20, 2024, 12:38:03 PM
Quote from: TAC on September 19, 2024, 05:23:01 PMHow is this even possible? Are we playing or what, people??
So I just checked, and, uh, you are one of the two who haven't sent.
Quote from: Puppies_On_Acid on September 20, 2024, 12:46:33 PMTim's roulette police card is hereby revoked!


Crow

@jingle it's definitely more variable when you have ground to lose but, again, there's legitimately no reason to target anytime but as late as possible when you know nobody can possibly target you from below  :lol i generally agree with what you're saying tho, yes

jingle.boy

Quote from: Crow on March 21, 2024, 01:41:42 PM
@jingle it's definitely more variable when you have ground to lose but, again, there's legitimately no reason to target anytime but as late as possible when you know nobody can possibly target you from below  :lol i generally agree with what you're saying tho, yes

fair point...
Quote from: Jamesman42 on September 20, 2024, 12:38:03 PM
Quote from: TAC on September 19, 2024, 05:23:01 PMHow is this even possible? Are we playing or what, people??
So I just checked, and, uh, you are one of the two who haven't sent.
Quote from: Puppies_On_Acid on September 20, 2024, 12:46:33 PMTim's roulette police card is hereby revoked!

ariich

Yeah if you have the default 3 overtake points then Crow is right. The target is very unlikely to be overtaken by anyone else, but they might overtake someone in which case delaying makes it more likely you might beat whoever ends up in that spot.

If you have more overtake points though, it's luck of the draw. If the person you target is overtaken by someone else first, then you'd have a tougher match against the new target.

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Indiscipline

Surrender to chaos, my friends. It's an art, never a science.

Buddyhunter1


Podaar

Reading this thread is like listening to Gary Gygax arguing with Steve Jackson!

TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 10, 2024, 11:26:46 AMDISAPPOINTED.. I hoped for something more along the lines of ADTOE.

Puppies_On_Acid

Quote from: Evermind on May 06, 2024, 07:39:06 AMHey Stadler, your inbox is full.
Quote from: ReaperKK on August 29, 2024, 06:42:26 PMthat distractingly handsome son of a bitch is gonna make it hard
Quote from: Drunk TACThes sng is are sounds rally nece an I lyke tha sungar

wolfking


King Postwhore

"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Sacul

There exists a knowledge network so vast and thorough, right at the fingertips of most humans on God's green Earth, and Tim still chooses to ask "Who?" every single time. Amazing.
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TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 10, 2024, 11:26:46 AMDISAPPOINTED.. I hoped for something more along the lines of ADTOE.

King Postwhore

"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 10, 2024, 11:26:46 AMDISAPPOINTED.. I hoped for something more along the lines of ADTOE.

King Postwhore

Hey, porn life. Stay away from the cabbage before shoots.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Evermind

Quote from: Train of Naught on May 28, 2020, 10:57:25 PMThis first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

TAC

There's no fucking way I'm the only person here that's never heard of Gary Gygax. Fuck you all! :lol
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 10, 2024, 11:26:46 AMDISAPPOINTED.. I hoped for something more along the lines of ADTOE.

LithoJazzoSphere

I don't know if I was familiar with the name, but 5 seconds later I understood exactly what it was all about.  :p

wolfking

Quote from: TAC on March 21, 2024, 07:18:01 PM
There's no fucking way I'm the only person here that's never heard of Gary Gygax. Fuck you all! :lol

Yeah, I'm fucking lost too mate, don't stress.

lonestar

Quote from: wolfking on March 21, 2024, 07:22:12 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 21, 2024, 07:18:01 PM
There's no fucking way I'm the only person here that's never heard of Gary Gygax. Fuck you all! :lol

Yeah, I'm fucking lost too mate, don't stress.

He invented Dungeons and Dragons..