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VMadera's Roulette v1 - Finals - This is the Final Cut
« on: September 21, 2023, 11:36:08 AM »
VMadera's first roulette

Alright, I guess it’s time for me to run a roulette. I participated in enough of them, it’s time to see what it’s like on the other side. I will try my best to keep the roulette to 1 round every 1-2 weeks. I'll follow the usual format of hangman, first impressions, results, except for the playoff rounds.

Format
This will be an 8 round roulette with eliminations after round 5. The first 5 rounds will have “soft themes”, meaning that it will be open to interpretation as to what it means to you. Depending on the number of participants, rounds 6-8 will be playoffs style, head-to-head matches based on rankings. Only the top 8 will move on to the playoffs. If there are enough participants, additional players will move on to the playoffs and an additional round will take place before the quarter finals.

  • Round 1 - Summer song: Do you have summer song? let's hear it. That song that makes you want to speed down a highway with the windows down, or sit by the ocean with a drink in hand, or sit on your backyard while the grill is going.
  • Round 2 - Heavy: Not necessarily sound wise, but your choice.
  • Round 3 - Simplistic: Single instruments, easy to follow harmonies, repetitive phrases. Whatever simplistic means to you.
  • Round 4 - Pre-90’s: Anything that was released in 1989 or before.
  • Round 5 - Sad/emotional song: Self explanatory

Playoff
  • Quarter Finals - Non-rock/metal (2 songs, 20 minutes max. Homecourt advantage +5 minutes)
  • Semi-Finals - Suite (25 minutes max. Homecourt advantage +10 minutes)
  • Finals - Full Album (Single disc. Homecourt advantage can send a double album)



Taste
My taste is kind of difficult to define. In reality, I’m not picky about genre or style, as long as the music feels original and interesting. There are plenty of artists outside of rock and metal that I enjoy. However,  the safest route would be heavy guitars with clean vocals. Vocals are the last thing I pay attention to in a song. To me, it is more important to have interesting instrumentation and melodies (It’s been pointed out a few times that the songs I sent in other roulettes have weak vocals, which I agree, I just don’t pay much attention to them).With that said, vocals sometimes detract a lot from a song if they are very distracting (Amorphis harsh vocals, for example).

To give an idea, when it comes to harsh vocals, I enjoy bands like Gojira, All That Remains, In Flames, Machine Head, Rivers of Nihil, Amon Amarth and Trivium, to name a few. Bands that I find their harsh vocals distracting: Amorphis, Meshuggah, Slaughter To Prevail and Suicide Silence. Just some examples.

But please, don’t feel like you need to stick to the usual prog/metal. As I mentioned, I’m not picky about genre or style. I enjoy classical, modern classical, fusion, pop, the occasional hip hop song, piano solos, flamenco (or other acoustic guitar solo music), reggae, electronic, blah blah, you get the idea. Anything goes. I even played guitar in a Klezmer band while in college (not that I listen to Klezmer, but I can appreciate it). If the music has interesting elements, that’s all that matters.

Rules
Scoring- Songs will be scored on a rank basis (Similar to Lonestar’s roulette). Worst song for the round gets 1 point, Second worst 2 points, and so on. The scores will be used for seeding purposes only. Once we reach the playoffs, it will be a head-to-head match with no scores, only a winner and a loser.
Songs - Submit 1 song. I hold the right to refuse any submission if I previously heard the song, or if I am familiar with enough work from the artist.
Submitting - Please send me a PM with the artist and song name. I use YouTube music, so if you want to ensure I listen to the correct version, please send a YouTube or YouTube music link. If the track is not on YouTube let me know where I can listen to it. If you rather share a file, feel free to send it through email.
Time Limit - For the first 5 rounds, the time limit is 10 minutes. Time limit for the playoffs was noted for each round.
TAC’s Wildcard rule - You get one (1) wildcard to use in any of the first 5 rounds. The wildcard gives you the option to send 2 songs from one artist, instead of 1. I will listen to both songs before starting the round, then select the best of the two for the round. If you do not use your wildcard by round 5, you forfeit it and it cannot be used during the playoffs. Use it wisely.
Playoffs Home Court Advantage - I'm playing around with the idea of having a "Home court advantage" for the playoff rounds. Something that gives the higher seeded players an option, such as a higher time limit. I'll determine that as we make it to the first round of the playoffs.

I think that covers it all. I'll leave sign ups open through the weekend.


Participants:
1. Evermind
2. Faizoff
3. Litho
4. King
5. TAC
6. RomDrums
7.Luke
8.Lonestar
9. Ariich
10. Tomi
11. Stadler
12. Puppies
13. Reaper
14. Sacul
15. Jingle
16. Wolfking
17.HOF
« Last Edit: November 16, 2023, 06:42:49 AM by Vmadera00 »
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Re: VMadera's Roulette v1 - How Hard Can it Be?
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2023, 11:36:21 AM »
Score after round 5

1. X- Evermind...................71
2. X- Ariich........................67
3. X- Jingle.......................57
4. X- Wolfking..................56
5. X- Lonestar..................55
6. X- Reaper...................51
7. X- Faizoff...................45
8. X- Sacul....................45
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9. E- HOF......................44
10. E- Luke..................44
11. E- RomDrums.........40
12. E- Puppies............39
14. E- King...............35
15. E- Stadler..........30
15. E- Tomi...........30
16. E- TAC...........29
17. E- Litho.........27

X: Clinched playoff
E: Eliminated


Playoffs:

Round 1:

Evermind Vs. Sacul: Sacul is the winner
Ariich Vs. Faizoff: Ariich is the winner
Jingle Vs. Reaper: Jingle is the winner
Wolfking Vs. Lonestar: Lonestar is the winner


« Last Edit: November 15, 2023, 05:58:30 PM by Vmadera00 »
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Re: VMadera's Roulette v1 - How Hard Can it Be?
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2023, 11:36:36 AM »
As I mentioned previously, I reserved the right to reject a submission, even if it's not included in the banned list.
Banned List:

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311
AC/DC
Ace Frehley
Aerosmith
After the Burial
Alestorm
Alien Weaponry
All That Remains
Alter Bridge
Amon Amarth
Amorphis
An Endless Sporadic
Angel Vival
Andy James
Animals as Leaders
Arch Enemy
Arch Echo
At The Drive-in
Atreyu
Avenged Sevenfold
Bad Company
Bang Camaro
Bee Gees
Between the Buried and Me
Billy Cobham
Billy Joel
Black Sabbath
Blacktop Mojo
Bloodywood
Blue Oyster Cult
Bonobo
Boston
Buckethead
Bullet for my Valentine
Bush
Caligula’s Horse
Chimaira
Coheed and Cambria
Cream
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Daft Punk
Darkest Hour
Dave Matthews Band
David Bowie
Deep Purple
Def Leppard
Dennis Chamber
Devin Townsend
Device
Dio
Dire Straits
Disturbed
Dream Theater (and anything associated with the members)
Eagles
Earth, Wind & Fire
Elton John
Enrique Bunbury
Eric Clapton
Evanescence
Extreme
Filter
Five Finger Death Punch
Fleetwood Mac
Foo Fighters
Foreigner
Genesis
Ghost
Godsmack
Gojira
Gorillaz
Green Day
Greg Howe
Guns & Roses
Hacride
Haken
Heroes Del Silencio
In Flames
Interpol
Intervals
Iron Maiden
Jakub Zytecki
Jason Becker
Jason Richardson
Jethro Tull
Johannes Linstead
Journey
Judas Priest
Kansas
Karnivool
Killswitch Engage
Kiss
Kool & The Gang
Lamb of God
Lacuna Coil
Led Zeppelin
Leprous
Linkin Park
Machine Head
Meat loaf
Mana
Mastodon
Megadeth
Mercyful Fate
Meshuggah
Metal Church
Metallica
Motley Crue
Motorhead
Muse
My Chemical Romance
Myrath
Nirvana
Once Human
Opeth
Ozzy Osbourne
Papa Roach
Parkway Drive
Passafire
Pearl Jam
Periphery
Peter Frampton
Pink Floyd
Plini
Polyphia
Porcupine Tree
Protest The Hero
Prototype
Public Service Broadcasting
Queen
Queensryche
Quiet Riot
Rainbow
Rage Against the Machine
R.E.M.
Red Hot Chili Peppers
REO Speedwagon
Rise Against
Rivers of Nihil
Riverside
Rolling Stones
Rush
Silversun Pickups
Slaughter to Prevail
Sleep Token
Slipknot
SOEN
St. Vincent
Steely Dan
Steven Wilson
Strung Out
Sublime
Suicide Silence
Sylvan
Symphony X
System of a Down
Tears for Fears
Testament
TesseracT
Thank You Scientist
The Beach Boys
The Beatles (and any project associated with the members)
The Contortionist
The Cranberries
The Cyberiam
The Doors
The Expendables
The Mars Volta
The Offspring
The Outlaws
The Pineapple Thief
The Police
The Prize Fighter Inferno
The Stone Roses
The Who
Thirty Seconds to Mars
Three Days Grace
Thrice
Tool
TOTO
Tremonti
Trivium
U2
UFO
Van Halen
Victor Wooten
Volbeat
Whitesnake
Yes
ZZ Top
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Re: VMadera's Roulette v1 - How Hard Can it Be?
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2023, 11:38:37 AM »
Definitely in if you'll have me.

Off to read the OP. :lol
This first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2023, 11:40:05 AM »
In for sure
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Re: VMadera's Roulette v1 - How Hard Can it Be?
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2023, 11:42:50 AM »
I never post before reading the OP, so let's throw caution to the wind this time and sign up before I know what I'm getting myself into.   :corn

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Re: VMadera's Roulette v1 - How Hard Can it Be?
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2023, 11:43:16 AM »
Yes, please.
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Re: VMadera's Roulette v1 - How Hard Can it Be?
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2023, 11:47:50 AM »
In!!!
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2023, 11:48:54 AM »
I would be surprised if you don't get at least 20 participants :)
This first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

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Re: VMadera's Roulette v1 - How Hard Can it Be?
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2023, 11:51:39 AM »
Definitely in if you'll have me.

Off to read the OP. :lol

WTF?? After you pussied out of mine??
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2023, 11:51:53 AM »
In!

Edit: also, Sent!
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Re: VMadera's Roulette v1 - How Hard Can it Be?
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2023, 11:56:54 AM »
Definitely in if you'll have me.

Off to read the OP. :lol

WTF?? After you pussied out of mine??

Nothing against you Tim, I was getting oversaturated with your roulettes. I think I played one in 2022, and you had two more of them this year. That's a little bit too often for me, and I know I probably won't be able to sell to you any non-metal bands or the depressing metal bands I seem to gravitate towards right now, so I decided to pass. I'm still reading the thread though.

For Vmadera, this is his first roulette, so if the host is respectable and well-known on DTF, you bet I'll be in it.
This first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2023, 12:01:18 PM »
In it to win it. Vmadera, what are your views on punk/emo/post-hardcore?

Looking at the banned list we have a lot in common, although I kinda already knew that.

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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2023, 12:09:26 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2023, 12:22:58 PM »
Updated main post with participants.

In it to win it. Vmadera, what are your views on punk/emo/post-hardcore?

Looking at the banned list we have a lot in common, although I kinda already knew that.
I'd say "proceed with caution". I like them, just not as much as I used to.
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Re: VMadera's Roulette v1 - How Hard Can it Be?
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2023, 12:44:58 PM »
Definitely in if you'll have me.

Off to read the OP. :lol

WTF?? After you pussied out of mine??

Nothing against you Tim, I was getting oversaturated with your roulettes. I think I played one in 2022, and you had two more of them this year. That's a little bit too often for me, and I know I probably won't be able to sell to you any non-metal bands or the depressing metal bands I seem to gravitate towards right now, so I decided to pass. I'm still reading the thread though.

For Vmadera, this is his first roulette, so if the host is respectable and well-known on DTF, you bet I'll be in it.

Just giving you some shit.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: VMadera's Roulette v1 - How Hard Can it Be?
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2023, 12:50:00 PM »
I'd love to see Ruslan's list of "not respectable" hosts.   :lol

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Re: VMadera's Roulette v1 - How Hard Can it Be?
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2023, 12:50:31 PM »
In!

congrats ariich!

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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2023, 12:51:54 PM »
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2023, 12:59:30 PM »
Count me in
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Re: VMadera's Roulette v1 - How Hard Can it Be?
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2023, 01:06:43 PM »
How hard can it be?  Rock hard!!!!   In if you'll have me...

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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2023, 01:09:45 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2023, 01:13:21 PM »
Sign me up!

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« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2023, 01:16:14 PM »
In to end up last :metal

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Re: VMadera's Roulette v1 - How Hard Can it Be?
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2023, 01:17:48 PM »
Not participating, but as someone who’s also about to do their first roulette, I’ll be watching from the sidelines.

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Re: VMadera's Roulette v1 - How Hard Can it Be?
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2023, 01:32:23 PM »
Round 1 sent.  Without a past roulette to look at, a RYM, last.fm, or top 50 thread this is gonna be challenging, but hopefully fun!  I have a tentative battle plan that I'll amend as we go. 

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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2023, 01:37:32 PM »
In to end up last :metal

Not a chance, I'm in this roulette.

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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2023, 01:39:59 PM »
Round 1 sent.  Without a past roulette to look at, a RYM, last.fm, or top 50 thread this is gonna be challenging, but hopefully fun!  I have a tentative battle plan that I'll amend as we go.

By fun, you mean you’ll drive yourself insane trying to create an algorithm with no data.


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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2023, 01:47:21 PM »
Round 1 sent.  Without a past roulette to look at, a RYM, last.fm, or top 50 thread this is gonna be challenging, but hopefully fun!  I have a tentative battle plan that I'll amend as we go.

By fun, you mean you’ll drive yourself insane trying to create an algorithm with no data.


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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2023, 01:48:22 PM »
Alright, 14 participants so far, and 2 submissions  :corn

Round 1 sent.  Without a past roulette to look at, a RYM, last.fm, or top 50 thread this is gonna be challenging, but hopefully fun!  I have a tentative battle plan that I'll amend as we go. 
Don't over think it :neverusethis:
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« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2023, 01:49:58 PM »
Round 1 sent.  Without a past roulette to look at, a RYM, last.fm, or top 50 thread this is gonna be challenging, but hopefully fun!  I have a tentative battle plan that I'll amend as we go.


I think I got an edge having just had him in my roulette, and seeing what he sent gives me a decent range of what to send. Also helps he was very consistent and scored well with most of what he sent, so our tastes do align... now to send a bunch of obscure Japanese metal and technical death metal to fuck it all up. :metal :lol

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Re: VMadera's Roulette v1 - How Hard Can it Be?
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2023, 01:50:06 PM »
Alright, 14 participants so far, and 2 submissions  :corn

Round 1 sent.  Without a past roulette to look at, a RYM, last.fm, or top 50 thread this is gonna be challenging, but hopefully fun!  I have a tentative battle plan that I'll amend as we go. 
Don't over think it :neverusethis:
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Re: VMadera's Roulette v1 - How Hard Can it Be?
« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2023, 01:53:13 PM »
Round 1 sent.  Without a past roulette to look at, a RYM, last.fm, or top 50 thread this is gonna be challenging, but hopefully fun!  I have a tentative battle plan that I'll amend as we go.

By fun, you mean you’ll drive yourself insane trying to create an algorithm with no data.




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Re: VMadera's Roulette v1 - How Hard Can it Be?
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2023, 01:56:00 PM »
hmm yeah considering our relative incompatibility based on your performance in my roulette, i feel like i should be sitting this one out :lol but i'll watch and make fun of people all the same :corn

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« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2023, 02:00:40 PM »
In to end up last :metal

Not a chance, I'm in this roulette.

I love a good fight for last place.  I'll save my energy for Sacul's next one.  Or maybe Puppies'.  :neverusethis:

I think I got an edge having just had him in my roulette, and seeing what he sent gives me a decent range of what to send. Also helps he was very consistent and scored well with most of what he sent, so our tastes do align

He was right in the middle in mine, so I don't have the faintest idea what to expect in reverse.   ;D