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Extreme (the band) - Official Thread. V. SIX
« on: August 28, 2023, 09:16:40 AM »
Hey everyone. Didn't come up with any specific threads on Extreme (the band), so I thought I'd start one.

My wife and I went to back-to-back shows this weekend. Extreme headlining with Living Colour as the opener. We were blown away. Just an amazing 48 hours of great music, travel, some surprises, and a huge appreciation for the talent in both bands.

Before I give a big review, my wife and I are hardcore fans of both bands. Our daughter is also a big fan of Living Colour. So this was a dream bill for us. While I saw Extreme last fall opening for Cheap Trick (my wife couldn't make it), we hadn't seen Extreme headline a show since August 2008...when my wife was pregnant with our daughter! LOL! Funny story...but King's X opened for Extreme, and after that show, we met the band, and Doug Pinnick asked to rub my wife's belly! Still have pics of that, and our daughter just laughs. Anyway...

On Friday, August 25, we went up to the Silver Legacy Resort Casino in Reno, Nevada. We had purchased the soundcheck experience tickets. I didn't find out until probably a month ago that they were VIP. Not just soundcheck, but picture with the band from the stage, early merch, early entry, a signed poster, etc. So my wife and I (daughter had school) hiked it up the hill early, and got to the venue about 1:30. Figured we get lunch, relax, and be at the soundcheck at 3:30 p.m., as instructed.

I'm not a casino guy, but I've been to Reno many times for other things, so I know the good places to eat at the Silver Legacy. We stroll in, head toward the spot we usually go to, and we literally walk into (almost literally), Gary Cherone and Pat Badger, in workout clothes, trying to figure out where to eat. I say hello (we were dressed for the show with concert t-shirts). They say hello, and Gary says "nice shirt" to me (I was wearing a Queen shirt). I ask them if they are looking for a good place to eat. They say "yes," and I said to follow me. Showed them where we were headed, they looked at the menu, we said our goodbyes, and they sat down, and we sat down in another area of the place. I asked our server to put their order on our tab. Just wanted to do something nice for a band my wife and I both respect and have gotten so much enjoyment out of.

About 35-40 minutes go by, and over walks Gary and Pat. They explain their meal is comped, so they didn't want us to waste our money by paying for it. But they really appreciated the gesture. They take a picture with us, and put us on the aftershow list. We thank them, and say "we were trying to do something nice for you, and now you've done something nice for us!" We all have a laugh, and off they go. Anyway, 3:30 rolls around, we get into soundcheck (it was more like 4:30 before it started). We get there, walk up to the stage, and Pat and Gary immediately recognize us, and Pat goes "hey, there's our lunch friends!" There were about 20 people, total. Extreme runs through "Warheads," and "Li'l Jack Horny," which were not on the setlist all tour (and weren't these two nights), so that was a treat. After "Warheads," i say to Nuno that I've been waiting 30 years to hear that song. He gives me a hard time, sarcastically saying "where the hell have you been for 30 years?!"   :lol That's the thing about Nuno. He's a rock star, he knows it, but he's also a goofball and very sarcastic. I heard some stories about things he says to people at soundcheck, and people were negative. I get it -- had my wife not whispered that he's being sarcastic (I'm a little slow on recognizing it), I might have been like "WTF, man?" But once she said it, I picked up on all his sarcastic little remarks. They really were meant to lighten things up and get people to laugh.

Anyway, after they finish the second song, and people ask some questions, a dad and his 12 year old (the kid's name was Liam) ask if Liam can jam "Cupid's Dead" with them. Nuno thought the kid said he was a guitarist, and said "sure! I can get a break, I never get a break!" They invite the kid on stage, and all of us applaud. Turns out the kid is a drummer. So the kid settles in behind K-Fig's kit, counts it in, and holy shit, off they go. The kid SLAYED. His dad's grin was as wide as could be. The whole band were shocked. Liam got a little lost in the breakdown, but he pushed the tempo of the song, and the band all laughed because it kept them going. After it was over, Nuno told K-Fig he was out of a job, and the kid Liam was exhausted, wide-eyed, and couldn't believe what happened. There was a no recording or photos policy at soundcheck (which I respect), but they allowed the dad to record that. It was amazing. Absolutely made everyone's day. I asked the father and the kid later how long he had been a drummer, and Liam replied he's played for two years. So cool.

After soundcheck, we were able to buy merch. Bought merch, and while waiting, Corey Glover of Living Colour pops his head out the door. No one but us knew who he was. When we said hello to him, he was like "don't mind me, just buy merch!" and laughed, and we told him have a great show. Corey is one of our favorite singers, and very engaging and funny. We've met him a few times, and he's always great. Once we bought stuff, we dropped all of it in the car. We had about an hour and a half to kill, so we walked around, got a snack, and then got the aftershow passes left for us at will call. Headed down to the venue. Got in, got to our seats. Third row aisle, directly in front of Nuno. Our spare set of tickets was aisle on the section to our left, sixth row, so basically between Gary and Pat. Sucked we couldn't get rid of them. But...

I noticed Liam and his father (who told us they had front row seats) in the front row...but way, way off to the side, so they couldn't see Nuno or most of the stage. I mean, front row, but horrible tickets. No view whatsoever really. Since we had the spare set of seats, I went over there and made the kid's day. I transferred the tickets we had that were sixth row center on the aisle to his dad, so both of them could see. During the show I look over, made eye contact with the dad and LIam, and both gave me the thumbs up. That kid will NEVER forget that day. I am so glad that while I couldn't sell them, I was able to help make the day even better for a dad and his son sharing music like that.

Living Colour got on at 8 sharp. Great 45-minute set, based primarily on Vivid and Stain. They are just so tight. Professional. Engaging. Funny. Played that casino ballroom like it was an arena. Corey Glover went out into the crowd for a song, walking all over the venue. It was amazing. They had to cut "Type" (unfortunately), because they knew they were running long and had to get "Cult of Personality" in, so they did and still went three minutes over (there was a clock). Great performance though. All of them are virtuosos. Something Nuno would acknowledge at both shows, saying something about it. Corey remarked from the stage how great it is to have the two bands together. He called Living Colour the "Black version of Extreme," and Extreme the "White version of Living Colour." And it's true, many similar elements. Great pairing. Highlights of the set were a couple of Stain tunes for me. I managed to get Doug Wimbish's setlist at the end of the set. Turns out, they planned to play "Nothingness," from Stain, but taped over it and wrote "Love Rears" (for "Love Rears Its Ugly Head") instead. So that was a bummer for me. Still great, but the more Stain I can get, the better.

Extreme gets on about...I want to say they were on at 9:20. Wow. Just wow. The energy is amazing. For those that don't know, Gary Cherone is 62 years old. SIXTY-TWO. He'd give Bruce Dickinson a run for his money about how active and engaging he is on stage. What a showman, what a voice. They played something from every album. The newest album, SIX, I was lukewarm on going in. I liked it, but the songs really popped better for me in a live setting. Thoroughly enjoyed the new tracks, and they did probably four or five. Of the old material, my favorite record from them is III Sides to Every Story, and they did a bunch. "Rest in Peace," "Cupid's Dead," "Tragic Comic," and my favorite song from them, "Am I Ever Gonna Change." The opener was awesome, "It's a Monster" from Pornografitti. My wife and I had such a great time. And I have to say...the harmonies. Extreme have the best harmonies in rock today. And that's saying something with King's X still active. Gary, Nuno, and Pat just have a beautiful three-part harmony that just lifts you up when you hear it.

Nuno was Nuno. The rock star, amazing performer that he is. My wife and I sat back after both shows and talked about how special it was to see guys like Vernon Reid and Nuno Bettencourt play. In fact, at both shows, Nuno sung the praises of Vernon Reid, as many people don't realize until they see him just how incredible he is. Anyway, Nuno paid a special tribute to EVH between songs, noodling on some Eddie riffs.

Extreme played for two hours and two minutes. A full, old-school, proper headline set. It was outstanding. Absolutely outstanding.

After the show, we were asked to wait by merch. After about a half-hour, out strolls Gary and Pat. We talk for about 15 minutes (there were just a couple more people there) about a variety of things. Told Gary how much we loved the Tribe of Judah record he did, and how he was one of my first interviews back in late-2002 about that record. I told him I still had the article, and he asked to see it. I told him I'd get it to him in San Francisco the next night. Took another picture with him and Pat (Pat is awesome by the way). And then spoke to their tour manager (and merch guy) Austin, about connecting the next night. He is actually from the town right over from where we live, and we talked food and stuff. He hadn't been home in over two years. So he asked about a local bakery, and if we could acquire one of their specialties for him. We said yes and would see him the next night. Made the two hour drive home, and was in bed at 3 a.m.

On Saturday, we got to San Francisco (this time with our daughter) early. We had some baked goods in-hand we needed to drop off. Both my wife and I brought our soundcheck-VIP laminates from the night before. We didn't purchase soundcheck for SF, but I was thinking, while we probably wouldn't get in to see soundcheck, we could probably get in early if we had them. The Regency Ballroom in SF has an early entry pass for $20. So we bought one of those for my wife, who handed her laminate to our daughter, and hatched a plan to get in the VIP line and get in early. We had balcony tickets, and if you want front row on Nuno's side, you have to be early. So that was the plan.

Anyway, we get there early, spot Austin, who was absolutely overwhelmed we remembered and gave him a big bag full of hometown treats. He took my Tribe of Judah article as well, and said he'd hand it to Gary (more on that later). We then went to have dinner at a pizza joint around the corner. Came back, got in line, and our trick worked. In walked myself and my daughter with the VIPs, nobody the wiser. And my wife followed 10 minutes later before general admission. We got perfect seats front row, close to the stage but away enough so that we'll hear properly. You could see us clearly from the stage.

Went down to merch briefly, Austin promised us a signed SIX LP, but had to get the guys to sign it, and to come back after the show. We said we would, and then went back to our seats for Living Colour. Another great set by LC. They played a similar set, but swapped in "Open Letter (To a Landlord)" instead of "Love Rears Its Ugly Head" this time. Now, unlike the Silver Legacy in Reno, which was fully seated, The Regency Ballroom was standing room on the floor. Only seats are in the balcony. And the place was PACKED. The floor…everyone squished. You couldn’t move. (I was very thankful for the seats in the balcony.) But Corey being Corey, he walked up the stairs mid-song, and then did a loop around the balcony, engaging fans, singing, it was amazing. Later on, he dropped into the photo pit, and wanted to get in the crowd, but thought better of it. Let’s just say the 55+ year old Corey had a harder time with all the running around than the Body Glove-wearing 20-something Corey in the late-80s. LOL.

Extreme came on, did the same set, except that they added #Rebel to the set as well. Both bands were tired. Extreme was doing their third show in three nights at this point. Living Colour I think was on show six in six nights (they played a headline show on the last day off). Vocally, both Corey and Gary were tired. You could tell Corey was a little more gravelly with his voice than normal, and Gary was cautious on some of the high notes.

But it didn’t matter. Honestly, crazy energy off the stage, another full two-hour set, and TBH, Gary got better as the set went on, and then he was gold the last half. I really loved this medley of “Small Town Beautiful” and “Song for Love” that they did in the encore. All the new songs were done really well. I can’t say enough good things about both bands, and about this tour. If you had the means and were able to go, and chose not to, you missed out big time. Those of you in Portland and Seattle, I encourage you to go. It’s worth every single penny.

Now, during the show, in Extreme’s set, the band obviously points to the crowd. During one of the songs, it was VERY, VERY obvious that Gary Cherone spotted the three of us. During one line, he pointed at me, but not just a point. He pointed, stared, pointed again twice more, right at me and my wife and smiled. Tells me that Austin did in fact share my article with him. He acknowledged us another time or two as well. Made my night. And in pure Extreme fashion, once done, their song “Here’s to the Losers” plays on the PA. Classic.

When the gig was done, we went down by merch to say goodbye to Austin. He was swamped. He saw us and said “You guys are leaving already?” I said we had to, and he said he wasn’t going to be able to get the LP signed by the band until later. But he asked me to put my contact info on the back of a poser and promised to get in touch and send it as the tour wines down this week.

I’m not banking on anything. If he follows through, cool. If not, the weekend was awesome just as it was. I feel really fortunate to have seen this tour on back-to-back nights, and have those experiences with Gary and Pat that we did. And I’ll always remember Liam in Reno, and hope to see that young man follow his dream and be on stage with his own band one day.

Here are non-arranged (haven’t had time to arrange them yet) playlists of videos I took over the course of both nights from both bands:

Extreme - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uazAfjCWZo&list=PLJI-MjWF9aD9asHvrObEB8b3jYSdlq1ZQ

Living Colour - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNOLr3XTXqM&list=PLJI-MjWF9aD8Kr8G_Kg4rfaQfgeLPGFbQ
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Re: Extreme (the band) - Official Thread. V. SIX
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2023, 09:25:47 AM »
Saw your vids in my feed this weekend. I watched some of the Extreme show.
Nuno looked like he was tearing it up.
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2023, 09:30:30 AM »
Wow–what a great write-up of an equally great show(s)!

Thanks for sharing all of this ;D

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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2023, 09:50:01 AM »
Cool review!  I'm not much for either band, aside from their hit songs, but I love the story about giving your extra tickets to the kid and his dad.  That's so neat!  Love that Gary acknowledged you during the show as well.

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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2023, 09:54:24 AM »
Thanks guys.

Grapp -- yeah, that kid was just wide-eyed the entire time. I forgot to mention that during soundcheck, I guess the dad forgot earplugs. Luckily, my wife had a spare pair, which I gave to him. You could tell that this dad and his son hadn't gone to many shows. I'm glad to have been in a position to make it even better.

Overall, I've seen a lot of great shows over the years. But as my wife said, and I agree, these were two of the best. I liked Reno a bit more, given how close we were, and the whole unplanned meeting with Gary and Pat -- all of that led to just a wonderful experience. I'll never forget it.
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2023, 11:35:29 AM »
Awesome story!
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2023, 01:31:31 PM »
Oh, and for those who are fans of Extreme, I asked Pat Badger what the whole visual thing with the Gorilla is for, regarding the SIX album cover. Paraphrasing, he said the concept was Nuno's, and as Pat understands it, since all the songs are very (I am forgetting the word Pat used) strong, or intense/aggressive, they loved the image of the gorilla to symbolize that. There are four different gorilla faces, each symbolizing a band member. So that's the story about the album cover.

Oh, and Kevin Figueiredo (k-Figg), Extreme's drummer, was watching Living Colour's set from the side of the stage on Saturday night. He was rocking out and headbanging the entire time! And when I spoke to Pat and Gary backstage after the Reno show, Pat was angling to buy some Living Colour merch! Ha!
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2023, 04:12:38 PM »
Nice...  I liked hearing the older stuff   glad you had fun
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2023, 08:16:21 PM »
Oh, and for those who are fans of Extreme, I asked Pat Badger what the whole visual thing with the Gorilla is for, regarding the SIX album cover. Paraphrasing, he said the concept was Nuno's, and as Pat understands it, since all the songs are very (I am forgetting the word Pat used) strong, or intense/aggressive, they loved the image of the gorilla to symbolize that. There are four different gorilla faces, each symbolizing a band member. So that's the story about the album cover.

Oh, and Kevin Figueiredo (k-Figg), Extreme's drummer, was watching Living Colour's set from the side of the stage on Saturday night. He was rocking out and headbanging the entire time! And when I spoke to Pat and Gary backstage after the Reno show, Pat was angling to buy some Living Colour merch! Ha!

Do you know if Extreme will do a 2nd leg? I missed the Albuquerque show and I really wanted to see it since I personally love Six.

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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2023, 08:17:44 PM »
Sam, the setlist was amazing. I saw them in Boston. It was a fantastic night. I took so many videos od 1 minute clips.
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2023, 08:38:09 AM »

Do you know if Extreme will do a 2nd leg? I missed the Albuquerque show and I really wanted to see it since I personally love Six.

We didn't talk about a second U.S. leg (honestly, I forgot to ask that specifically). Pat and Gary ran through their plans through December, which are already published. BUT, we were talking about Gary's Hurtsmile project, and he said he has another album ready to go, and that he's going to drop it between Extreme tour legs. Considering they are pretty much running through the end of 2023, that there will be a break, and I'm guessing another leg. I know Pat and the tour manager were talking about venues, and they mentioned "the next time out" as well. So, if I was a betting man, I'd bet that a second run for SIX is in the works at some point in 2024.

Sam, the setlist was amazing. I saw them in Boston. It was a fantastic night. I took so many videos od 1 minute clips.

We had so much fun. Hearing "Warheads" and "Lil Jack Horny" in soundcheck was a huge bonus. I hope if they DO end up doing a second leg (fingers crossed) and it comes by us and we go, that those songs are in the regular setlist and polished up. They sounded great, although Nuno admitted he was a little spotty on the solo and didn't remember the whole thing (he noodled some stuff that was out of place, so whether it was boredom, or him forgetting, it was a little different).

Nice...  I liked hearing the older stuff   glad you had fun

Thanks, it was a blast. The medley from the first record was one of my highlights. The lyrical content is a bit cringey these days (LOL) but I knew all those songs. In fact, when we got that chance to talk to Pat and Gary after the show, I asked them if they remembered Fingers Metal Shop from WBAB 102.3 on Long Island. Pat said he remembers getting interviewed by Fingers because he'll never forget a nickname like that. And I told them it was on that show, in 1989, when I first heard "Teacher's Pet" and became a fan. They remembered Sundance in Babylon, which was a club back then, and they played it on that first tour. But I told them I was too young at the time to attend. Then we all looked at one another and said "yep, we're all getting old."  :lol

It was just a great night and entire weekend. Those two guys are class acts.
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2023, 08:40:52 AM »
I missed the Six tour, but I saw them open for Aerosmith at Fenway.  Solid, solid, stuff.

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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2023, 09:27:23 AM »
Ok, to throw a little cold water here. I simply don’t “get” Extreme. They’re one band where I don’t find the whole to be greater than the sum of its parts.
As good if a guitarist that Nuno is, their music is remarkably safe.
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2023, 09:27:58 AM »
Ok, to throw a little cold water here. I simply don’t “get” Extreme. They’re one band where I don’t find the whole to be greater than the sum of its parts.
As good if a guitarist that Nuno is, their music is remarkably safe.
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2023, 09:47:19 AM »
Ok, to throw a little cold water here. I simply don’t “get” Extreme. They’re one band where I don’t find the whole to be greater than the sum of its parts.
As good if a guitarist that Nuno is, their music is remarkably safe.


I don't agree with the bolded AT ALL. Pornograffiti and III Sides to Every Story are both concept albums, chock full of time changes (particularly the latter), and ripe with social commentary. If you put Queen, Van Halen, and Aerosmith in a blender, give them a darker tone, and a more metallic edge, and shake some funk into it, you have Extreme. I wouldn't call any of that "safe," Tim. You've said forever you don't really enjoy Gary Cherone. So I'd say you likely haven't given those two classic albums in-depth, repeated listens. If you do, I think you'd change your mind about their music being "safe." I respect if you just don't like them. That's all taste and opinion. But "safe?" Extreme's music is anything but.

Corey Glover from Living Colour said it best this weekend: "Living Colour is the Black version of Extreme, and Extreme is the White version of Living Colour." Similar elements, not afraid to challenge the status quo, get a little funky, and deliver some heavy-hitting goods.
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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2023, 09:31:35 AM »
I don't know what there is to "get". You either like their music or you don't.  ;)

Must've been Kwyji sending all the wrong songs.   ;D

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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2023, 09:48:36 AM »
Ok, to throw a little cold water here. I simply don’t “get” Extreme. They’re one band where I don’t find the whole to be greater than the sum of its parts.
As good if a guitarist that Nuno is, their music is remarkably safe.

Just not your cup of tea. The were phenomenal when I saw them 3 weeks ago.   
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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2023, 11:02:15 AM »
Looks like a second U.S. leg was announced for early 2024.

Starts January 24 in NJ, and ends on February 29 in Las Vegas, before they head on the Monsters of Rock Cruise.

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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2023, 09:59:04 PM »
Looks like a second U.S. leg was announced for early 2024.

Starts January 24 in NJ, and ends on February 29 in Las Vegas, before they head on the Monsters of Rock Cruise.

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>>>Excited that I get one more show. Hopefully, now that they've shot videos for "The Mask" and "Thicker Than Blood," they play those as well.  :metal

They did?  All over The Mask but can't find a video for Thicker Than Blood???

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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2023, 09:43:30 AM »
I liked some of what I heard on SIX, namely the singles.

I feel bad as I've never seen them live and I love the 3 Sides album, but I bought a ticket to see Local Natives the same evening literally blocks away in downtown Minneapolis last month. Although they weren't playing the complete 3 Sides album, but so be it.

Ironically, as I was heading towards my car after the Local Natives show, I ran into a bunch of people who saw Extreme with Livinng Colour.

If they do come back I will have to try and go.

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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2023, 09:50:36 AM »

They did?  All over The Mask but can't find a video for Thicker Than Blood???

They did! When we saw them, the night before in LA they played a longer show and played that song twice to record the video. I talked to Gary and Pat about it. So my guess is, it'll be released prior to the next tour leg!

I liked some of what I heard on SIX, namely the singles.


Let the album grow on you. I felt the same way. But then as the show crept closer, so did my appreciation for the album. After the show, the other cuts really started to jump out at me.

Like you, III Sides is my favorite album of theirs. They are playing a few tracks. But the show is totally worth it. I can't recommend it enough. Great pairing with Living Colour.

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« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2023, 12:46:00 AM »
Didn't want start afresh so rolled the dice and bumping this thread again...

Just wanted say with all the 2023 Top10 and whatnots being discussed here and elsewhere got me revisiting some this year's albums I'd rated a while.  And boy oh boy isn't this record the gift that keeps giving  ;D. In fact so much so was fortunate to grab this one on LP finally.  Generally don't care much for coloured vinyl but the red and black splatter here works perfectly too \m/

Trying pick favourites amounted to heartache rounded it down to about 7 choices  :lol

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« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2023, 10:31:36 AM »
Six grew on me big time. I don't like all the outside songwriters who collaborated with them, which to be, knocks it down a peg. But I really do enjoy the album a lot.

The tour...I saw it twice (third time this coming February) was probably my second favorite show of the year (the Reno, Nevada one), with my first being Helloween in San Francisco.

Excited for what's to come for Extreme. My hope is that they stay away from the collaborators though. Gary, Nuno, and Pat are the band's songwriters, and they don't need outside help.
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« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2024, 04:17:43 AM »
Yep that's fair and while it would normally piss me off too I wasn't as invested in the album from the outset so wasn't even aware they'd used outside writers until I was well on board so no biggie.

I regret life got in the way and I wasn't able make any their Australian shows too, Six will be well up there on my end of year albums so would've loved to have seen them.  Interestingly just flipped the vinyl back onto side 3 to spin Hurricane again, one of the songs that initially alluded me but it's just now clicked and those lyrics are beautiful.

Still don't like Beautiful Girls though  :lol

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« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2024, 11:08:42 AM »
I’m going to be in Vegas for a building code educational conference convention right when they are doing a double headline with Living Color. I’m thinking about going, but haven’t pulled the trigger on buying a ticket yet.
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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2024, 08:40:08 AM »

Still don't like Beautiful Girls though  :lol

I hate that song. And ironically, it was written with no outside writers.  :lol

I’m going to be in Vegas for a building code educational conference convention right when they are doing a double headline with Living Color. I’m thinking about going, but haven’t pulled the trigger on buying a ticket yet.

JD,

The show was phenomenal. It isn't a double headline though. Living Colour gets about 45 minutes. Extreme plays for two hours.
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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2024, 09:23:05 AM »

I’m going to be in Vegas for a building code educational conference convention right when they are doing a double headline with Living Color. I’m thinking about going, but haven’t pulled the trigger on buying a ticket yet.

JD,

The show was phenomenal. It isn't a double headline though. Living Colour gets about 45 minutes. Extreme plays for two hours.

Huh… I guess that just seems odd to me because I consider those bands to be pretty close to equal status in the public eye.
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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2024, 10:36:26 AM »
For whatever reason, Living Colour's profile is low. TOO low. Just like King's X, but not as low as that. It's baffling because both bands' first three records did well, and their respective fourths, not so much. But Extreme has been able to headline and draws well. But man, Living Colour is a hard act to follow. But Extreme held their own. It's a great night of music.

My fam and I are going for the third time next month (new leg of the tour and there's another date within doable distance), it was that good.
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« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2024, 11:10:07 AM »
Add to that that I think you could make the argument that Living Color was probably higher profile in their prime than Extreme was. Pretty sure they had more hits on the radio. Cult of Personality, Open Letter, and Love Rears Its Ugly Head were all over the place when they were new, and I think they won a Grammy for best new artist??

I don’t think Extreme has a Grammy, and I’m pretty sure the only thing the *public at large* has heard is More Than Words and Hole Hearted.  I mean, yes Get the Funk Out and Rest in Peace had some MTV airplay when they were new, but I never heard them on the radio and on “in department store” overhead music and sport stadiums like I did the LC songs.
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« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2024, 11:37:35 AM »

The show was phenomenal. It isn't a double headline though. Living Colour gets about 45 minutes. Extreme plays for two hours.

Add to that that I think you could make the argument that Living Color was probably higher profile in their prime than Extreme was. Pretty sure they had more hits on the radio. Cult of Personality, Open Letter, and Love Rears Its Ugly Head were all over the place when they were new, and I think they won a Grammy for best new artist??



I really thought Living Colour would get far more time on this tour, but it is Extreme's day in the sun I guess - which was good. But yeah, their set was 45 min AND THAT'S IT! Caps because on the stage was a visible large time clock and a roadie giving them the eye about time. It was an anniversary year for the Stain album, so the set had many cuts from that album, which was good to see live, as I had not. But sheesh, they threw in 2 covers and a hip-hop medley. They did a Prince tune, because, well Minnesota. But they FINISHED with Should I stay or should I go???? Really weird set IMO. Just seemed like they were treated like some new novice band.

Extreme was great though. Never thought they'd be throwing down a 2 hour show, but there it was. You'd have an easier time listing what wasn't played! They had fun and looked like rock stars and kept good energy.  Anyone gets a chance (or another chance), see this tour!

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« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2024, 12:31:08 PM »
Add to that that I think you could make the argument that Living Color was probably higher profile in their prime than Extreme was. Pretty sure they had more hits on the radio. Cult of Personality, Open Letter, and Love Rears Its Ugly Head were all over the place when they were new, and I think they won a Grammy for best new artist??

I don’t think Extreme has a Grammy, and I’m pretty sure the only thing the *public at large* has heard is More Than Words and Whole Hearted.  I mean, yes Get the Funk Out and Rest in Peace had some MTV airplay when they were new, but I never heard them on the radio and on “in department store” overhead music and sport stadiums like I did the LC songs.

Not to argue, and this COULD be a coastal thing, but Living Color is a one-hit wonder around here.  Cult Of Personality, and that wasn't even that big a hit.   Extreme really only has one hit too, but it was a biggie, and they have a couple other radio play songs ("Mutha", "Kid Ego").

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« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2024, 12:48:10 PM »
I suspect the "public at large" exposure got a bit lopsided once Extreme played the Freddie Tribute at Wembley in '91. At least here in Europe.

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« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2024, 01:36:42 PM »
Add to that that I think you could make the argument that Living Color was probably higher profile in their prime than Extreme was. Pretty sure they had more hits on the radio. Cult of Personality, Open Letter, and Love Rears Its Ugly Head were all over the place when they were new, and I think they won a Grammy for best new artist??

I don’t think Extreme has a Grammy, and I’m pretty sure the only thing the *public at large* has heard is More Than Words and Whole Hearted.  I mean, yes Get the Funk Out and Rest in Peace had some MTV airplay when they were new, but I never heard them on the radio and on “in department store” overhead music and sport stadiums like I did the LC songs.

Not to argue, and this COULD be a coastal thing, but Living Color is a one-hit wonder around here.  Cult Of Personality, and that wasn't even that big a hit.   Extreme really only has one hit too, but it was a biggie, and they have a couple other radio play songs ("Mutha", "Kid Ego").

A quick search shows that both bands biggest albums (Pornografitti and Vivid) both sold 2x platinum in the US. Living Color has 2 Grammy’s and 1 MTV video music award for best new artist. Extreme has zero awards from anyone I can find. Though they advertise much higher sales *worldwide*, which is a statistic that LC doesn’t disclose one way or the other. Their US sales appear to be in the same ball park.
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« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2024, 01:47:14 PM »
I suspect the "public at large" exposure got a bit lopsided once Extreme played the Freddie Tribute at Wembley in '91. At least here in Europe.

And both Gary being in Van Halen and Nuno with Rihanna probably have some impact.

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« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2024, 02:50:00 PM »

I really thought Living Colour would get far more time on this tour, but it is Extreme's day in the sun I guess - which was good. But yeah, their set was 45 min AND THAT'S IT! Caps because on the stage was a visible large time clock and a roadie giving them the eye about time. It was an anniversary year for the Stain album, so the set had many cuts from that album, which was good to see live, as I had not. But sheesh, they threw in 2 covers and a hip-hop medley. They did a Prince tune, because, well Minnesota. But they FINISHED with Should I stay or should I go???? Really weird set IMO. Just seemed like they were treated like some new novice band.

Extreme was great though. Never thought they'd be throwing down a 2 hour show, but there it was. You'd have an easier time listing what wasn't played! They had fun and looked like rock stars and kept good energy.  Anyone gets a chance (or another chance), see this tour!

I'm from New York (Long Island), but live out on the West Coast. The bands were absolutely all lovey-dovey out here, complimenting one another during both bands' respective sets. I don't think LC was treated like a novice band at all. You have to remember, Living Colour can get very jammy at times. I was at a gig back in spring 2002 in Northampton, Massachusetts. They came on at like 10:30 p.m. and played until, no joke, 2 a.m. And they did this extended version of "Sacred Ground" that was 20 minutes long (it's a four-minute track). Bottom line, Living Colour just plays long, and the clock is likely there on their own accord, to keep themselves in check. Extreme are the headliners, and LC is doing the right thing by being respectful.

At the Reno, NV show last year, I remember them (LC) constantly checking the clock, trying to make sure they squeezed things in, and modified things along the way so they could fit their stuff in. They cut a song or two, because of that. (I had a setlist.) But it was absolutely all love between both bands.

My wife and I were really fortunate, as we ran into Pat and Gary prior to the gig, and they invited us back after the show. Trust me, Extreme and LC love touring with each other. Totally evident. So pumped they are doing another leg. It's a great pairing.

As for who is more popular, etc., all I know is that Nuno isn't just a virtuoso guitar player. People have pointed out Rhianna. True. He's also made a lot of contacts out in LA, has his own production company (https://atlantisentertainment.com/), and I'm sure is tight with all the promoters. Extreme is just "bigger" in terms of the bookings they can get at this stage. But both LC and Extreme are fairly equal, in my mind, in terms of popularity. But it's generally who you know.

Living Colour has very much been a homegrown business the last several years for those guys. Whereas Extreme has the contacts from Nuno, and their first drummer, Paul Geary, who was with the titans of AGP in the early 2010s before now being the principal of his own huge firm, Global Artist MGMT.

Bottom line -- Extreme is EXTREMELY well connected, which is probably why they are the full-on headliners and playing the places they are playing.
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