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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1855 on: April 04, 2024, 05:39:37 PM »
So any guesses on when we're getting track or album titles, or album art or a single?
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1856 on: April 04, 2024, 05:45:44 PM »
Opeth and Trivium have both played their songs live.

I SAW Opeth play Throat Of Winter live, and the audience was not enjoying it. :lol
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1857 on: April 04, 2024, 05:48:57 PM »
Good. Replace that ridiculous mellow orchestra section and insert Raw Dog.

That'd be amazing :rollin
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1858 on: April 04, 2024, 05:55:11 PM »
So any guesses on when we're getting track or album titles, or album art or a single?

May or June is my bullshit guess

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1859 on: April 04, 2024, 05:55:42 PM »
I SAW Opeth play Throat Of Winter live, and the audience was not enjoying it. :lol

Maybe just maybe they didn’t include these songs in the game because they all kinda suck?  :lol

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« Reply #1860 on: April 04, 2024, 06:49:16 PM »
Good. Replace that ridiculous mellow orchestra section and insert Raw Dog.
Imagine that happening! :rollin

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And, yes, the transitions are as abrupt as it gets :biggrin:

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It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1861 on: April 04, 2024, 06:59:41 PM »
just wanted to say I got a good chuckle out of hef saying "Raw Dog didn't hit my mother"
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1862 on: April 04, 2024, 07:37:59 PM »
Raw Dog is better than Enigma Machine....There I said it.


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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1863 on: April 05, 2024, 12:36:47 AM »
Raw Dog doesn't bother me that much, although I always thought it should've been a lot shorter. I simply cannot listen to the whole thing without feeling bored... I'm getting old.
Just for fun, I made a very simplified version (2:53  :biggrin:):
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1864 on: April 05, 2024, 01:10:56 AM »
Nobody asked, but the “car” sounding thing in the intro that everybody seems to hate so much is an instrument called the Harpejji.
https://youtu.be/ItPJQFCpc5g?si=slIJbKkWKWbLtxal
This is the first time I've ever seen someone mention Harpejji in fourteen years. Man, does that take me back. I listened to Raw dog when it came out and thought it was pretty crazy, but I didn't return to it. I think I heard it last year for the first time since then. It's a fine song and a nice little nugget in their discography.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1865 on: April 05, 2024, 06:12:14 AM »
Raw Dog doesn't bother me that much, although I always thought it should've been a lot shorter. I simply cannot listen to the whole thing without feeling bored... I'm getting old.
Just for fun, I made a very simplified version (2:53  :biggrin:):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1440FeAIN-1KMXxPrga-Hidj4gwsK9i0K/view
That's actually pretty good, much more concise but you still get the meat of the track

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1866 on: April 05, 2024, 06:20:18 AM »
I just don't really get the hyperbole.  Is it their best song?  Nope.  Is it their worst song? Nope.  Is it the exemplar of everything they are about?  Nope.   Is it so out of character as to be an anomaly?  Nope.

It just is.

I'll remind, this is the bottom of my ranked song list:
168   Room 137
169   Losing Faythe
170   Descent of the NOMACS
171   Gladiator Theme
172   Lord Nafaryus
173   Machine Chatter
174   Invisible Monster
175   The Hovering Sojourn
176   Three Days
177   Two Far
178   The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun

I had "Raw Dog" at 129.

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« Reply #1867 on: April 05, 2024, 06:26:51 AM »
I just don't really get the hyperbole.  Is it their best song?  Nope.  Is it their worst song? Nope.  Is it the exemplar of everything they are about?  Nope.   Is it so out of character as to be an anomaly?  Nope.

It just is.

I'll remind, this is the bottom of my ranked song list:
168   Room 137
169   Losing Faythe
170   Descent of the NOMACS
171   Gladiator Theme
172   Lord Nafaryus
173   Machine Chatter
174   Invisible Monster
175   The Hovering Sojourn
176   Three Days
177   Two Far
178   The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun

I had "Raw Dog" at 129.

Same - I guess someone said it best that it's just not memorable, at least to me.  I had myself a curiosity listen again yesterday but still walked away like 'eh'.  But I totally agree with you, Stadler, the NOMAC tracks are definitely worse than Raw Dog.  Though they are similar (to me) in that none of them actually goes anywhere.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1868 on: April 05, 2024, 06:54:04 AM »
I just don't really get the hyperbole.  Is it their best song?  Nope.  Is it their worst song? Nope.  Is it the exemplar of everything they are about?  Nope.   Is it so out of character as to be an anomaly?  Nope.

It just is.

I'll remind, this is the bottom of my ranked song list:
168   Room 137
169   Losing Faythe
170   Descent of the NOMACS
171   Gladiator Theme
172   Lord Nafaryus
173   Machine Chatter
174   Invisible Monster
175   The Hovering Sojourn
176   Three Days
177   Two Far
178   The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun

I had "Raw Dog" at 129.


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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1869 on: April 05, 2024, 06:59:50 AM »
Never has such a mediocre piece of music generated so much discussion!
Boy, no kidding.  And in the wrong thread, to boot.
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« Reply #1871 on: April 05, 2024, 09:19:26 AM »
I'd be surprised if they even remember Raw Dog.  Bands like this with so many songs tend to forget one-off songs like that.  Does Metallica remember I Disappear or does Megadeth remember Angry Again?
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1872 on: April 05, 2024, 09:21:59 AM »
I'd be surprised if they even remember Raw Dog.  Bands like this with so many songs tend to forget one-off songs like that.  Does Metallica remember I Disappear or does Megadeth remember Angry Again?

MP mentioned it recently which sparked the debate.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1873 on: April 05, 2024, 09:22:05 AM »
I'd be surprised if they even remember Raw Dog.  Bands like this with so many songs tend to forget one-off songs like that.

MP doesn’t forget stuff like that. Plus he literally mentioned it in a video a few pages back, which I think is what started this whole conversation.

Edit: cram beat me to it

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« Reply #1874 on: April 05, 2024, 09:37:56 AM »
Raw Dog doesn't bother me that much, although I always thought it should've been a lot shorter. I simply cannot listen to the whole thing without feeling bored... I'm getting old.
Just for fun, I made a very simplified version (2:53  :biggrin:):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1440FeAIN-1KMXxPrga-Hidj4gwsK9i0K/view

Awesome! My "new" version of Raw Dog. Love it! If they perform an "instrumedley" this is perfect for it's inclusion :metal

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« Reply #1875 on: April 05, 2024, 09:50:34 AM »
I gave some of Raw Dog a listen yesterday. It's harmless of course, but it sounds more like a cover band doing a DT-style song for a video game soundtrack. Certainly nothing to write home about, and it does sound like it was thrown together in a few days (which it was). Hopefully they were more inspired than that for the current album sessions!

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« Reply #1876 on: April 05, 2024, 11:27:55 AM »
I listened to Raw Dog yesterday. I think I had listened once before. It's got a couple of ok parts, but really, there are way better instrumentals for DT to play. (If they must). Enigma Machine being one!  ;D

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« Reply #1877 on: April 05, 2024, 12:21:42 PM »
So any guesses on when we're getting track or album titles, or album art or a single?

Can't wait to see Hugh's next masterpiece!
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #1878 on: April 05, 2024, 12:23:37 PM »
It's the topic about the new DT album, and for the past 5 pages or so anyone visiting for updates on the actual new album has to read all these off topic comments on Raw dog.
Yeah i know it's dream theater fans. But still.
Could the mods remove all these posts to a separate topic? It's annoying waiting to read something about the title of a specific topic, and the only thing no one talks about is the exact topic mentioned in the title. Come on guys.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1879 on: April 05, 2024, 12:27:49 PM »
It's the topic about the new DT album, and for the past 5 pages or so anyone visiting for updates on the actual new album has to read all these off topic comments on Raw dog.
Yeah i know it's dream theater fans. But still.
Could the mods remove all these posts to a separate topic? It's annoying waiting to read something about the title of a specific topic, and the only thing no one talks about is the exact topic mentioned in the title. Come on guys.

There's no news, the last comments are based off the latest news from a video MP and JP shared. 

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1880 on: April 05, 2024, 12:32:45 PM »
It's the topic about the new DT album, and for the past 5 pages or so anyone visiting for updates on the actual new album has to read all these off topic comments on Raw dog.
Yeah i know it's dream theater fans. But still.
Could the mods remove all these posts to a separate topic? It's annoying waiting to read something about the title of a specific topic, and the only thing no one talks about is the exact topic mentioned in the title. Come on guys.

The OP updates the first post in the thread with all news discussed. So you can always just check out the first post. I think he updates it quickly.
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1881 on: April 05, 2024, 12:34:37 PM »
It's the topic about the new DT album, and for the past 5 pages or so anyone visiting for updates on the actual new album has to read all these off topic comments on Raw dog.
Yeah i know it's dream theater fans. But still.
Could the mods remove all these posts to a separate topic? It's annoying waiting to read something about the title of a specific topic, and the only thing no one talks about is the exact topic mentioned in the title. Come on guys.

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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1882 on: April 05, 2024, 02:16:59 PM »
I just don't really get the hyperbole.  Is it their best song?  Nope.  Is it their worst song? Nope.  Is it the exemplar of everything they are about?  Nope.   Is it so out of character as to be an anomaly?  Nope.

It just is.

I'll remind, this is the bottom of my ranked song list:
168   Room 137
169   Losing Faythe
170   Descent of the NOMACS
171   Gladiator Theme
172   Lord Nafaryus
173   Machine Chatter
174   Invisible Monster
175   The Hovering Sojourn
176   Three Days
177   Two Far
178   The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun

I had "Raw Dog" at 129.

Raw Dog over Invisible Monster?  Really?  Wow...

And whoever said Raw Dog is better than Hell's Kitchen is likely the cause of the earthquake in NY this morning... the natural world cannot withstand such blasphemy.
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Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - Writing continues
« Reply #1883 on: April 05, 2024, 02:18:51 PM »
Can't wait to see Hugh's next masterpiece!
Here it is! In all its glory! Front and back cover...





























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« Reply #1884 on: April 05, 2024, 02:24:10 PM »
I don't know what that is, or what the joke is, but I'd take that as an album cover.  Why not?

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« Reply #1885 on: April 05, 2024, 02:25:06 PM »
Here it is! In all its glory! Front and back cover...



Dream Theater presents their 16th studio album - The Apocalypse Gambit
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2. From The Edge Of The World - 12:34
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4. Something Wicked This Way Goes - 9:45
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« Reply #1886 on: April 05, 2024, 02:26:30 PM »
What if...

What if the next album will be the best artwork of Syme and worst album with MP to date?  :biggrin:
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« Reply #1887 on: April 05, 2024, 02:36:53 PM »
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« Reply #1888 on: April 05, 2024, 02:40:26 PM »
Here it is! In all its glory! Front and back cover...






























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« Reply #1889 on: April 05, 2024, 03:00:16 PM »
I'd take the worst Hugh has to offer over hideous ai imagery like that..