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crystalstars17

Quote from: nobloodyname on February 23, 2024, 03:29:12 AM
I suspect we'll get an Octavarium-style album.

I wouldn't argue with that  :)✨ But again, in the style of Octavarium + a fresh, modern take on the original concepts.
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Setlist Scotty

Quote from: Ben_Jamin on February 22, 2024, 08:20:10 PM
Quote from: HOF on February 22, 2024, 08:13:59 PM
11 tracks, 10 of which have a distinct vibe that corresponds to each of the first 10 DT albums, and the 11th of which is a side long epic with it's own vibe.

Only sort of serious, but this is the kind of thing they would do maybe.
That's a cool theme.
Agreed. Would be an interesting idea for sure!


Quote from: crystalstars17 on February 23, 2024, 03:12:40 AM
Quote from: Metro on February 22, 2024, 08:19:35 PM
A double album where they re-record both Sons of Apollo albums
I hope this is a joke.  ::)
It is. Just a tip-off: an unwritten rule here is whenever someone posts something in green then it's meant as a joke or sarcastically. Of course not everyone does that, but when you do see it, it's obvious that it's not meant to be taken seriously.  ;)


Quote from: nikatapi on February 23, 2024, 03:30:49 AM
Really curious to see who will be engineering/mixing/mastering the album.

I think A View From The Top Of The World was one of the best DT albums sonically, after a series of questionable ones.
I'm pretty confident that it will sound excellent. Even though sonics are more JP's wheelhouse than MP's, I'm sure they'll have or have discussions about those things, and maybe discuss what worked while MM was with the band and what didn't with Jimmy T and whoever they choose to mix and master, which I would think will probably be Andy Sneap again, since he seems to do an excellent job.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

Metro


efx

I would love to see Sneap work with them again, both JP's solo album and View for me has their best production since Black Clouds.
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Lonk

Quote from: HOF on February 22, 2024, 08:13:59 PM
11 tracks, 10 of which have a distinct vibe that corresponds to each of the first 10 DT albums, and the 11th of which is a side long epic with it's own vibe.

Only sort of serious, but this is the kind of thing they would do maybe.
That would be pretty cool honestly. A way to revisit their discography while giving us something new.

Metro

Just like how I don't want a Metropolis Pt.3 or any sequels, I'd rather this next album be about moving forward than looking back. Not asking them to reinvent the wheel, but I don't want or need an album that's just a nostalgia fest.

Lonk

That's fair, I just think the concept itself is cool. I will be happy with whatever they put out  :corn

TheHoveringSojourn808

I'm never sleeping in a teepee again - Father John Misty

TheBarstoolWarrior

I do have my DT-preferences but honestly at this point I'll just be super happy with a consistent, good album I can listen to for years to come.

In some sense I feel like I know exactly what to expect. In another sense this is a mystery box - as much as a DT album can be at this point -because everyone is at a different place and a lot older. It's going to be interesting to hear how this all comes together over a decade later. You never know, but i hope they're not going to try to re-create the magic of Six Degrees and Scenes. It would be tough because they aren't the same as people or as musicians as they were even 5 years ago.  A lot of fans are clearly feeling a sense of deep nostalgia and are hoping things are going to go back to the way they were so I don't know if they try to deliver on those expectations. I feel like that would be a treacherous path to take but going back to what I opened with, I'll just be happy if it's good and consistent.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

crystalstars17

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TheHoveringSojourn808

LMAO that was actually the first thing i was gonna write in Green
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crystalstars17

Quote from: TheHoveringSojourn808 on February 23, 2024, 06:42:30 AM
LMAO that was actually the first thing i was gonna write in Green

🖐️ Hi-5 brotha! ✨✨ :metal
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pg1067

Quote from: porcacultor on February 22, 2024, 11:01:12 PM
"For the FII track we had the label force us to hire an external producer to cut up one of our songs, it felt just like the old days"

:lol :lol
Feelin' kinda spooky.

emtee

I've been thinking over the last couple weeks how time changes things. Not necessarily for the better or worse just...different. And I'm wondering if the guys feel that - if the chemistry is still strong or maybe if things feel a bit strange. This is going to be a very interesting album to hear. I expect the unexpected.

Setlist Scotty

Quote from: emtee on February 24, 2024, 11:31:32 AM
I've been thinking over the last couple weeks how time changes things. Not necessarily for the better or worse just...different. And I'm wondering if the guys feel that - if the chemistry is still strong or maybe if things feel a bit strange. This is going to be a very interesting album to hear. I expect the unexpected.
It's possible, but I think just the gradual way things were handled (first MP working on JP's solo album, then LTE3 and now this) has probably made it fairly easy to get into their routine again. Had there not been those incremental steps, then it might have been a bit more strange for them.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

TheHoveringSojourn808

I'm never sleeping in a teepee again - Father John Misty

HOF

Quote from: Setlist Scotty on February 24, 2024, 12:26:55 PM
Quote from: emtee on February 24, 2024, 11:31:32 AM
I've been thinking over the last couple weeks how time changes things. Not necessarily for the better or worse just...different. And I'm wondering if the guys feel that - if the chemistry is still strong or maybe if things feel a bit strange. This is going to be a very interesting album to hear. I expect the unexpected.
It's possible, but I think just the gradual way things were handled (first MP working on JP's solo album, then LTE3 and now this) has probably made it fairly easy to get into their routine again. Had there not been those incremental steps, then it might have been a bit more strange for them.

Yeah, it probably helps that MP, JP, and JR have all made an album together in recent years.
Quote from: TAC on December 12, 2024, 05:40:22 PM"No way" is kind of strong, but I do lean with HOF.

TheBarstoolWarrior

Quote from: emtee on February 24, 2024, 11:31:32 AM
I've been thinking over the last couple weeks how time changes things. Not necessarily for the better or worse just...different. And I'm wondering if the guys feel that - if the chemistry is still strong or maybe if things feel a bit strange. This is going to be a very interesting album to hear. I expect the unexpected.

Definitely different though I am sure chemistry feels natural. There is an old Japanese saying - ichigo ichie - that roughly translates to 'once in a lifetime, never again.' Every meeting, interaction, etc is unique and unrepeatable even if you have the same people reuniting to do the same job in the same place (which I know this isn't because DT studios didn't exist back then). When you consider how much life experience and music has gone by in 13 years, it is intriguing to think about how this is unfolding. Obviously these guys are professionals who have been making music for a long time so we know there is a playbook and an approach to this, but still....how could the record possibly be anything other than just different this time?

Like you, I am expecting something unexpected even though by and large it's going to sound like DT.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

TheHoveringSojourn808

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on February 24, 2024, 05:31:04 PM
Quote from: emtee on February 24, 2024, 11:31:32 AM
I've been thinking over the last couple weeks how time changes things. Not necessarily for the better or worse just...different. And I'm wondering if the guys feel that - if the chemistry is still strong or maybe if things feel a bit strange. This is going to be a very interesting album to hear. I expect the unexpected.

Definitely different though I am sure chemistry feels natural. There is an old Japanese saying - ichigo ichie - that roughly translates to 'once in a lifetime, never again.' Every meeting, interaction, etc is unique and unrepeatable even if you have the same people reuniting to do the same job in the same place (which I know this isn't because DT studios didn't exist back then). When you consider how much life experience and music has gone by in 13 years, it is intriguing to think about how this is unfolding. Obviously these guys are professionals who have been making music for a long time so we know there is a playbook and an approach to this, but still....how could the record possibly be anything other than just different this time?

Like you, I am expecting something unexpected even though by and large it's going to sound like DT.

well put
I'm never sleeping in a teepee again - Father John Misty

Jamesman42

ADTOE is an amazing album to me and many others, and I think part of it IMO is the band showing they can make great music without MP. They created Breaking All Illusions on that album, a song people adore, plus other songs that are very well-liked. SFAM had a similar effect when JR joined. People love the shit out of SFAM, it's one of their most popular albums. You can argue the same for IaW with JLB joining. The shifts bring a new energy and DT seem to capitalize on that extremely well.

I wonder if something similar will happen with this album. There is a spark and shift to the band with MP back. At least, that's my hope in terms of good music being made.
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Wim Kruithof

HoveringSojourn, your avatar of LaBrie's 'moment of glory' was on itself kind of dirty, but with those sneaking eyes of yours it's becoming a kind of cruel.


Cocopjojo

Did anyone listen to the https://jempradio.com/ interview with Mike last night? He said he was going to talk about DT, so I was curious whether he would talk about how the sessions were going.

I can't figure out how to replay previous broadcasts - anyone else able to figure it out (if it's even possible)?

Cocopjojo

I found it here: https://www.mixcloud.com/KevinCassels/kevin-interviews-mike-portnoy-1-29-24-audio/

It turns out it was recorded last month, two weeks before they went into the studio. But it sounds like he and the band have been talking and coordinating, so there was a bit more than we got when he was doing interviews right after the re-join announcement.

There is one juicy section that some of y'all will really be happy to hear:

Around the 20min mark, they talk about live show setlists, and how he used to do rotating setlists and covers and stuff, and MP talks about whether he'd want to do that again. He says that he'd be fine with static setlists for a little while because the band needs to find its new comfort zone, and each night will be special for him just getting to play with them and play the classic songs again.

But he says "they [the band] have expressed to me that they kind of have been missing it" (meaning the unique setlists) and "they kind of want me to take the reins with the setlists with the idea of crazy setlists and crazy shows... Fingers crossed that it will evolve to that point."

Around 34min, he says, unsurprisingly, that Dream Theater is his focus now and he has no plans to start any new side-projects or anything.

Around 36min, he says that while he is really excited to get into the studio and record, the thing he is most excited about is getting on the road and playing shows with the guys again. Which makes me wonder if he really will be able to wait XX months before touring, or if they'll do a "escape from the studio tour." I lean more towards the latter after hearing this interview.

That was basically it in terms of DT news. The interviewer did a good job overall. It was very conversational.

TheHoveringSojourn808

awesome jemp radio got an MP interview! for anyone that doesn't know jemp radio is a phish adjacent, fan run station. it stands for the first initial of each of their names (phish band members)
I'm never sleeping in a teepee again - Father John Misty

Mosh

I still continue to strongly believe that a summer tour followed by an album release is the only possibility that makes sense.

When the band did ADTOE, they did a small amount of setlist rotation before phasing it out entirely by DT12. I think we're going to see the inverse: the initial tour will be a static escape from the studio tour, then maybe we'll see some rotation slots for the full album tour before a big Evening With type deal with old school style rotating setlists.


Cocopjojo

I feel like that jives with what he was saying, so I could see that. I could definitely see MP wanting to do an escape from the studio tour so they can do a bunch of classics without being burdened by the bulk of the show needing to be the new material.

It's somewhat of a shame that the I&W and SFaM tours were so recent (well, recent-ish). I hope the band and fans aren't tired of those songs. Although, to be fair, I guess there's more than plenty of the other classic material to fill up a show. I saw a few shows of the SFaM Anniversary tour, but otherwise haven't seen DT live since MP left. So I'm looking forward to catching some shows again - I hope they do end up doing a pre-release tour of classics, and then the full tour once the album is out.

Wim Kruithof

Thank you Cocopjojo, will definitely check it out later this day.

Since so many oldskool material has passed in recent years, I really believe the encore on next tour will be Octavarium. It just makes sense and it's the track I've been missing most in live shows.

But they also might throw the Twelve Step Suite on us. Then, I will be in heaven a while...

nobloodyname

Thank you for typing that up, Cocopjojo.

This forum could really do with an upvoting mechanism.

MirrorMask

Quote from: Cocopjojo on February 25, 2024, 07:48:16 PM
It's somewhat of a shame that the I&W and SFaM tours were so recent (well, recent-ish). I hope the band and fans aren't tired of those songs.

After 13 years without MP, I guess fans will be happy about a setlist with Pull Me Under, Metropolis, As I Am and The Spirit Carries On all together.

Awaken

Quote from: Mosh on February 25, 2024, 07:25:09 PM
I still continue to strongly believe that a summer tour followed by an album release is the only possibility that makes sense.

When the band did ADTOE, they did a small amount of setlist rotation before phasing it out entirely by DT12. I think we're going to see the inverse: the initial tour will be a static escape from the studio tour, then maybe we'll see some rotation slots for the full album tour before a big Evening With type deal with old school style rotating setlists.

1. announce the dates
2. take my money
3. repeat

The first shows back are going to be nuts, hoping to make as many stops as possible - rotation of sets or not.  Still a little surreal this is happening.

TheHoveringSojourn808

Quote from: nobloodyname on February 25, 2024, 11:05:06 PM
Thank you for typing that up, Cocopjojo.

This forum could really do with an upvoting mechanism.

this would be so awesome
I'm never sleeping in a teepee again - Father John Misty

crystalstars17

Quote from: Cocopjojo on February 25, 2024, 12:55:20 PM
Around the 20min mark, they talk about live show setlists, and how he used to do rotating setlists and covers and stuff, and MP talks about whether he'd want to do that again. He says that he'd be fine with static setlists for a little while because the band needs to find its new comfort zone, and each night will be special for him just getting to play with them and play the classic songs again.

But he says "they [the band] have expressed to me that they kind of have been missing it" (meaning the unique setlists) and "they kind of want me to take the reins with the setlists with the idea of crazy setlists and crazy shows... Fingers crossed that it will evolve to that point."

:( :| :\ :yeahright :tdwn 😭
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hefdaddy42

Quote from: crystalstars17 on February 26, 2024, 07:36:46 AM
Quote from: Cocopjojo on February 25, 2024, 12:55:20 PM
Around the 20min mark, they talk about live show setlists, and how he used to do rotating setlists and covers and stuff, and MP talks about whether he'd want to do that again. He says that he'd be fine with static setlists for a little while because the band needs to find its new comfort zone, and each night will be special for him just getting to play with them and play the classic songs again.

But he says "they [the band] have expressed to me that they kind of have been missing it" (meaning the unique setlists) and "they kind of want me to take the reins with the setlists with the idea of crazy setlists and crazy shows... Fingers crossed that it will evolve to that point."

:( :| :\ :yeahright :tdwn 😭
Honestly, you should give it a chance before being so negative about it.  It's historically been their approach, and it made concerts individualized, and therefore more special (potentially), rather than "cookie cutter" and the same thing that every other city got.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

crystalstars17

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Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 26, 2024, 07:42:20 AM
Honestly, you should give it a chance before being so negative about it.  It's historically been their approach, and it made concerts individualized, and therefore more special (potentially), rather than "cookie cutter" and the same thing that every other city got.

Be that as it may, it's not simply a matter of "being so negative" as it is that I just don't agree with it. I mean what is the practical purpose of giving every city something different? I personally love knowing what to expect when I buy tickets. My husband and I love going online and seeing the expected setlist before going to (anyone's) show. It's exciting for us. I don't like not knowing, it seems arbitrary at best and at worst unfair. Is it a ploy to sell more tickets? Because they feel that people who may have only bought one show will buy 3 or 4 in the hopes of getting a different show? That's not even true because we've bought three shows with the same setlist before, so if we want to see them more than once and we can fit it into our schedule then we'll still go more than one time.

Editing to add that I am entirely ok with them rotating a couple of songs. But the moment I hear that the second half of the show is a cover of an album from some random band I don't even know, then... Do you hear that? That's the sound of my feet walking TF out.
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