DT16 Timeline Thread - MP finished recording drum parts, recording continues

[nobloodyname]

Had a feeling that was coming

[faizoff]

My time with DT has been called (again.) Good night everyone. The thread will not be continued.

I don't get it, but why?

[hefdaddy42]

My time with DT has been called (again.) Good night everyone. The thread will not be continued.

WTF

[nobloodyname]

The members of this forum announcing their departures over MP rejoining the band...

I mean, wat?

[pg1067]

If you leave tomorrow (or today)
We'll be alright
Because we believe (know, actually)
That after you're gone
This thread will carry on

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

how does MP coming back impact the thread talking about the studio time? if anything there'll be more buzz now, lol

[TAC]

how does MP coming back impact the thread talking about the studio time? if anything there'll be more buzz now, lol

It sounds like it impacts the OP.

[gzarruk]

Hopefully, they make good use of the momentum they just generated and post as much behind the scenes stuff from the DT16 sessions as possible.

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

how does MP coming back impact the thread talking about the studio time? if anything there'll be more buzz now, lol

It sounds like it impacts the OP.

oh, as in they're mad Mike Mango left? kinda weird to leave a forum over that but sure

imagine if everyone who likes MP quit DTF when MM joined?

[nobloodyname]

how does MP coming back impact the thread talking about the studio time? if anything there'll be more buzz now, lol

It sounds like it impacts the OP.

I wasn't going to post this here but Max really didn't make a secret of his dislike for MP.

[gzarruk]

With MP back, all hopes of them getting someone else to do the artwork are gone. Long live Syme, the 6th DT member

[TAC]

how does MP coming back impact the thread talking about the studio time? if anything there'll be more buzz now, lol

It sounds like it impacts the OP.

oh, as in they're mad Mike Mango left? kinda weird to leave a forum over that but sure

imagine if everyone who likes MP quit DTF when MM joined?

Mike Mango didn't leave.

[nobloodyname]

With MP back, all hopes of them getting someone else to do the artwork are gone. Long live Syme, the 6th DT member

Well... I guess there's a chance they could go all CRAZY what with it being a new start and, uh, not have him do it?

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

how does MP coming back impact the thread talking about the studio time? if anything there'll be more buzz now, lol

It sounds like it impacts the OP.

oh, as in they're mad Mike Mango left? kinda weird to leave a forum over that but sure

imagine if everyone who likes MP quit DTF when MM joined?

Mike Mango didn't leave.

dang, fun killer giving people fun nicknames is one of life's greatest pleasures

[TAC]

how does MP coming back impact the thread talking about the studio time? if anything there'll be more buzz now, lol

It sounds like it impacts the OP.

oh, as in they're mad Mike Mango left? kinda weird to leave a forum over that but sure

imagine if everyone who likes MP quit DTF when MM joined?

Mike Mango didn't leave.

dang, fun killer giving people fun nicknames is one of life's greatest pleasures

Orange you glad you posted? 

[fadetoblackdude7]

Are they hitting the studio right away, or waiting until after the new year?

[Schurftkut]

MP is playing with the winery dogs at this very moment on tour, so not immediately ;-)

[Zantera]

I just have a gut feeling that the next album will be Metropolis Part 3. If it doesn't happen I don't mind getting it rubbed in my face but if it does happen it should count for something. 

[MirrorMask]

I just have a gut feeling that the next album will be Metropolis Part 3. If it doesn't happen I don't mind getting it rubbed in my face but if it does happen it should count for something. 

Why should it be even a thing?

The band freely admitted that they called the song off I&W "Part 1" just for the lulz, and then when the song became famous they realized they kinda "had" to write Part 2.

They decided to turn a 20 minutes demo into a full album, which has a storyline (kinda stolen from the Dead Again movie) where every character died except for the reincarnated villain.

What Metropolis part 3 would be even about?

[genome]

I just have a gut feeling that the next album will be Metropolis Part 3. If it doesn't happen I don't mind getting it rubbed in my face but if it does happen it should count for something. 

I hope not. It feels a little on-the-nose.

[Zantera]

I just have a gut feeling that the next album will be Metropolis Part 3. If it doesn't happen I don't mind getting it rubbed in my face but if it does happen it should count for something. 

Why should it be even a thing?

The band freely admitted that they called the song off I&W "Part 1" just for the lulz, and then when the song became famous they realized they kinda "had" to write Part 2.

They decided to turn a 20 minutes demo into a full album, which has a storyline (kinda stolen from the Dead Again movie) where every character died except for the reincarnated villain.

What Metropolis part 3 would be even about?

I don't know but it's one of those ideas that has floated around for years among fans and so on. The parallel comparison in my head would be Between the Buried and Me who had 3 albums in a row generally regarded by fans to be among their weaker ones, so they went and made a legacy sequel to their most classic album, hit it out of the park and it seemed to really bring back a new level of hype that was missing for a few years. It feels like DT are in a similar sort of place where it became a factory assembly line of just putting out albums.

Not saying Metropolis Part 3 would make sense but imagine the hype of "They brought MP back?! And they're making a sequel to SFAM?!". It's a risky move though, if they made a follow up to SFAM and hit it out of the park, they would probably be more popular than they have been for a long time. However if they did not deliver, it could also backfire in a bad way.

[pg1067]

how does MP coming back impact the thread talking about the studio time? if anything there'll be more buzz now, lol

It sounds like it impacts the OP.

oh, as in they're mad Mike Mango left? kinda weird to leave a forum over that but sure

imagine if everyone who likes MP quit DTF when MM joined?

Mike Mango didn't leave.

dang, fun killer giving people fun nicknames is one of life's greatest pleasures

Orange you glad you posted? 

What about John Papayatrucci?

[TAC]

how does MP coming back impact the thread talking about the studio time? if anything there'll be more buzz now, lol

It sounds like it impacts the OP.

oh, as in they're mad Mike Mango left? kinda weird to leave a forum over that but sure

imagine if everyone who likes MP quit DTF when MM joined?

Mike Mango didn't leave.

dang, fun killer giving people fun nicknames is one of life's greatest pleasures

Orange you glad you posted? 

What about John Papayatrucci?

He's playing with Gourdan Rudess.

[deggs37]

how does MP coming back impact the thread talking about the studio time? if anything there'll be more buzz now, lol

It sounds like it impacts the OP.

oh, as in they're mad Mike Mango left? kinda weird to leave a forum over that but sure

imagine if everyone who likes MP quit DTF when MM joined?

Mike Mango didn't leave.

dang, fun killer giving people fun nicknames is one of life's greatest pleasures

Orange you glad you posted? 

What about John Papayatrucci?

He's playing with Gourdan Rudess.

The chef? I didn't know he played. Or maybe I'm thinking of Gjordan Rudamsy.

[bosk1]

They decided to turn a 20 minutes demo into a full album, which has a storyline (kinda stolen from the Dead Again movie) where every character died except for the reincarnated villain.

What Metropolis part 3 would be even about?

Well, it's about reincarnation, so characters dying is basically just hitting the "reset" button for the next round.  I'm sure we will find out that Nicholas was actually reincarnated as Faythe, and Victoria was reincarnated as Gabriel, and so on, and so The Astonishing actually was Metropolis pt. 3, and DT16 being Metropolis pt. 4, it takes place a hundred years after that.

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

They decided to turn a 20 minutes demo into a full album, which has a storyline (kinda stolen from the Dead Again movie) where every character died except for the reincarnated villain.

What Metropolis part 3 would be even about?

Well, it's about reincarnation, so characters dying is basically just hitting the "reset" button for the next round.  I'm sure we will find out that Nicholas was actually reincarnated as Faythe, and Victoria was reincarnated as Gabriel, and so on, and so The Astonishing actually was Metropolis pt. 3, and DT16 being Metropolis pt. 4, it takes place a hundred years after that.

Haha, I was about to say the next album will be The Astonishing Part 2, then I read your post and realized you basically said the same thing.

[MirrorMask]

Anyway, even though it will never happen, a tiny little part of me would like to hear a SONG called Metropolis part 3.

SFAM is the best thing after to mankind after the discovery of fire, but a full concept album "robbed" us of a song in the same vein and mood of Metropolis (The Miracle and the Sleeper). We got five songs for the AA saga, imagine if Metropolis had a "sister song" just like This Dying Soul is a natural continuation of The Glass Prison.

Sure, we heard the original demo and we got hints and bits and reprises here and there, but we don't have a proper "Metropolis pt 2" song and we never will. We have The Glass Prison 2 and 3 however, and basically 4 and 5. (I discard Repentance since it's so different from the rest)

[Sebastián Pratesi]

My time with DT has been called (again.) Good night everyone. The thread will not be continued.

Hi, Max!

For what it's worth:

Back in 2010, when MP left, I also thought I was done with the band. I listened to ADToE only once, but didn't give the album any more attention. To me, DT without MP wasn't interesting.

Then, in 2013, I decided to give ADToE another go. And I loved it. Since then, I've bought all the new albums. I went to see them live with MM twice. I even played the Astonishing videogame! And remember the ARG back in 2018? What a blast!

I ended up enjoying some of their latest music even more than the "classic era" stuff. Songs such as "Transcending Time", "Behind The Veil" and "Begin Again" are among my favourites now.

My point is: hopefully, you check out the band's next album or show! Who knows, maybe you'll find yourself changing your mind too.

[Trav86]

I left the MP forum almost immediately after Portnoy announced his departure from the band. That’s when I started lurking here.

[Jamesman42]

ADTOE is still a top DT album for me. They had something to prove with the exit of MP and they nailed it.

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

I have to admit my enthusiasm for DT16 has significantly lower with the lineup change, but I am still optimistic it'll be a good album. The news will pull a lot of attention towards the release and you have to think there is going to be maximum effort to ensure this is not just an OK album.

I do not think it'll pick up where BCSL left off but we'll see.

[Dedalus]

I have to admit my enthusiasm for DT16 has significantly lower with the lineup change, but I am still optimistic it'll be a good album. The news will pull a lot of attention towards the release and you have to think there is going to be maximum effort to ensure this is not just an OK album.

I do not think it'll pick up where BCSL left off but we'll see.

My enthusiam has significantly lower too.

If it were another band, I would certainly end up not listening to the new album - until today I haven't heard the latest from Helloween or Haken  - but since it's DT, I'm sure I'll be curious to listen to it at the first opportunity.

[jammindude]

I’m always a bit surprised by the love for ADTOE. And maybe I should revisit it. But I do feel it was maybe just a bit soiled by trying so hard to be IAW pt 2. Don’t get me wrong, it’s different enough to be its own thing. But it felt maybe a bit too “on the nose”

I put View and the self titled as a neck and neck tie for my favorite MM album. I still spin those on the regular. The rest I don’t reach for very often. Although I would state emphatically that they were ALL better than the last two MP albums by quite a wide margin. So there is that.

[Dedalus]

I’m always a bit surprised by the love for ADTOE. And maybe I should revisit it. But I do feel it was maybe just a bit soiled by trying so hard to be IAW pt 2. Don’t get me wrong, it’s different enough to be its own thing. But it felt maybe a bit too “on the nose”

I put View and the self titled as a neck and neck tie for my favorite MM album. I still spin those on the regular. The rest I don’t reach for very often. Although I would state emphatically that they were ALL better than the last two MP albums by quite a wide margin. So there is that.

One of my favorites. For me a very important album. With the sequence ToT-8v-SC-BCSL I thought I was done with DT. ADTOE gave me back my joy of listening to the band.

[James Mypetgiress]

I'm curious... those of you who have said your excitement for a new DT album has diminished now MP is back in the fold... why? Any personal issues one may have with Mike, fine. But his drumming ability is fantastic (stylistically different to MM, admittedly) and the only gripes I ever recall seeing regularly here are with his vocals, which noone rightly knows will make an appearance on the new album. What is it about the announcement of his return that puts you off?