ariich's DARK TO LIGHT roulette (v8) - Post-roulette updates (ongoing)

[soupytwist]

I'm not seeing an obvious candidate for mine, but I'll have a punt at 17 or 18 maybe?

[Glasser]

14?

[jingle.boy]

There's more than a few obvious candidates that I can dismiss, but more than a bunch that make me think "maybe?".

I'm going bold ... 17 for Triosphere (seems a few of us are aiming here).  Alternatively, I'll point to 14.

[Crow]

Wolfheart sent by Wolfking?

That was my exact response when he sent it to me.

just wait 'til you see what i got send in round 5 of my roulette 

[Crow]

1. Sounds like a really cool mixture of aggressive and epic - elements of the vocals are not normally what I go for, but they seem to work well here.

5. Ferocious yet tonally bright - it's a weird combination that will take some getting used to.

6. I can see the lyrical weight of this, but I was hoping for a little more emotional impact.

10. Didn’t love every aspect of this right away but the instrumentation is unusual for the genre and works great, and each song seems to keep getting better as it goes.

11. Intense, intelligent and interesting - not sure it entirely hits the mark on what I look for in the genre, but the more atmospheric moments sounded good.

12. Sounds like a strong example of the genre and right up my alley, with a great mix of the slower atmospheric side and the faster, more aggressive (yet always melodic) side.

15. Great energy and intensity, and a fun fusion of two quite distinct styles/tones, although it might have been even better if the two were more balanced.

16. Good grief this is pretty relentless, and yet there’s probably just enough sense of melody to make it work.

22. Well, this feels like a pretty big oversight on my part - the limited amount of clean vocals is kind of surprising for how melodic most of the music is, but it’s a great sound anyway.

23. This is emotive in an alt-prog/post-hardcore kind of way, and there's a slight theatricality to some of it that hits the right notes for me.

can pretty easily narrow it down to this set, though i feel like 5 might be the strongest shot in this set?

also: screw the band name Hanabie I keep reading it as "Harambe" and I hate it here

[lonestar]

also: screw the band name Hanabie I keep reading it as "Harambe" and I hate it here

If it makes it easier the band's name translates to 'Cold Flowers'

[twosuitsluke]

Just happen to be listening to Where Owls Know My Name tonight. I think Evermind has the upper hand in the Rivers of Nihil-off, as he sent The Silent Life 

Also (I know it’s been said already), how are these guys not banned?!

[Evermind]

Also (I know it’s been said already), how are these guys not banned?!

We have either found a loophole in Rich's RYM/banned list, or he sampled them before and he's going to hate both entries.

[Crow]

yeah sending the silent life is the winning move here imo sorry other sender

[twosuitsluke]

Also (I know it’s been said already), how are these guys not banned?!

We have either found a loophole in Rich's RYM/banned list, or he sampled them before and he's going to hate both entries.

I feel like there was a time where songs from this album were sent in roulettes all the time. With the amount of roulettes Rich has hosted, I’d be astounded if he’s not been sent the band before.

[Evermind]

Also (I know it’s been said already), how are these guys not banned?!

We have either found a loophole in Rich's RYM/banned list, or he sampled them before and he's going to hate both entries.

I feel like there was a time where songs from this album were sent in roulettes all the time. With the amount of roulettes Rich has hosted, I’d be astounded if he’s not been sent the band before.

I searched all the roulette threads Rich hosted since 2018 for "Nihil" before sending. Train mentioned Rivers of Nihil a couple of times during some thread banter with Crow but no one actually sent them as far as I know.

[Buddyhunter1]

yeah sending the silent life is the winning move here imo sorry other sender

We'll see.

[ariich]

Seems I'm doing reasonably well with not being too overly subtle, tons of right guesses there!

Crow, yours is in that list but it's not 5.

All updated with correct guesses so other than Crow, anything else not updated was wrong.

Alright, you can have some...

Round 4 first impressions

[Litho – Mercenary] 1. Sounds like a really cool mixture of aggressive and epic - elements of the vocals are not normally what I go for, but they seem to work well here.

[faizoff – Meshuggah] 2. I can see the appeal of this more than other things I’ve heard from this band, but I’m still not sure it’s my cup of tea.

[TAC – Atropas] 3. This is rather more metalcore than I’d have expected to receive from you, but it also has aspects of genres I associate more with you and the combination seems to work well.

4. I tend to find this subgenre a little cold, but this might break the mould with some strong choruses.

5. Ferocious yet tonally bright - it's a weird combination that will take some getting used to.

[Stadler – Mother Love Bone] 6. I can see the lyrical weight of this, but I was hoping for a little more emotional impact.

[King – Sevendust] 7. Not a genre I generally expect to receive, and if I had to guess who would send it to me, your name definitely would not come to mind.

[HOF – Marathon] 8. As far as neo-prog goes, this is perhaps not as warm as my favourites but it's more riff-driven and there’s a nice crunchiness to it.

[nick_z – Descend] 9. Not sure I hear that much of the influences this band apparently has, but this seems rather fantastic anyway - dark, epic and huge in sound.

10. Didn’t love every aspect of this right away but the instrumentation is unusual for the genre and works great, and each song seems to keep getting better as it goes.

11. Intense, intelligent and interesting - not sure it entirely hits the mark on what I look for in the genre, but the more atmospheric moments sounded good.

[Luoto – Kalmah] 12. Sounds like a strong example of the genre and right up my alley, with a great mix of the slower atmospheric side and the faster, more aggressive (yet always melodic) side.

13. Not sure what to make of this yet, it's fairly harmonically dense - some of it sounded great while other bits were quite sludgy and lo-fi.

[Glasser – Anima Tempo] 14. Doesn’t really deviate from most djenty prog metal, but it sounds good - tight riffing and playing, and solid hooks.

[lonestar – Hanabie] 15. Great energy and intensity, and a fun fusion of two quite distinct styles/tones, although it might have been even better if the two were more balanced.

[Vmadera – Fit for An Autopsy] 16. Good grief this is pretty relentless, and yet there’s probably just enough sense of melody to make it work.

[jingle – Triosphere] 17. Big sound, huge voice and, especially in the last two songs, strong hooks - this seems like a pretty safe bet.

[soupy – Dynazty] 18. Super catchy, pretty epic and just gravelly enough to give it a bit of hard rock punch.

[Elite – Imperial Triumphant] 19. There’s a pretty good chance this will be too weird for me, but there was something strangely compelling about it.

[Sacul – Have A Nice Life] 20. This is pretty bleak - my first thought was that it might be too cold for my tastes, but it does get more engaging once it picks up.

21. This sounded like solid death metal but nothing particularly stood out - hopefully I’ll get more sense of it with further listens.

[seneca – Dan Swanö] 22. Well, this feels like a pretty big oversight on my part - the limited amount of clean vocals is kind of surprising for how melodic most of the music is, but it’s a great sound anyway.

[Reaper – The Paper Sons] 23. This is emotive in an alt-prog/post-hardcore kind of way, and there's a slight theatricality to some of it that hits the right notes for me.

[ariich]

Also (I know it’s been said already), how are these guys not banned?!

We have either found a loophole in Rich's RYM/banned list, or he sampled them before and he's going to hate both entries.

I feel like there was a time where songs from this album were sent in roulettes all the time. With the amount of roulettes Rich has hosted, I’d be astounded if he’s not been sent the band before.

I searched all the roulette threads Rich hosted since 2018 for "Nihil" before sending. Train mentioned Rivers of Nihil a couple of times during some thread banter with Crow but no one actually sent them as far as I know.

Never heard a thing from them before this round, but yes have seen them mentioned a lot. Same applies to a few other submissions this round!

[King Postwhore]

7?

[ariich]

7?

Yep.

[LithoJazzoSphere]

Ah, the variety of types of vocals for me are one of their strengths, having a dual lead-vocalist + backing vocal (+ guest) approach on the first two tracks.  There are even more types on other tracks that I couldn't fit. 

[Lonk]

16. Good grief this is pretty relentless, and yet there’s probably just enough sense of melody to make it work.

21. This sounded like solid death metal but nothing particularly stood out - hopefully I’ll get more sense of it with further listens.

Maybe?

[lonestar]

15?

[ariich]

16. Good grief this is pretty relentless, and yet there’s probably just enough sense of melody to make it work.

21. This sounded like solid death metal but nothing particularly stood out - hopefully I’ll get more sense of it with further listens.

Maybe?

Yeah it was 16.

Ah, the variety of types of vocals for me are one of their strengths, having a dual lead-vocalist + backing vocal (+ guest) approach on the first two tracks.  There are even more types on other tracks that I couldn't fit. 

I'll explain what I meant in the full write-up, plus of course things can and often do change with further listens anyway.

[Stadler]

6. I can see the lyrical weight of this, but I was hoping for a little more emotional impact.

[King Postwhore]

7?

Yep.

Hey!  They were great live!   3 times!

[TAC]

7?

Yep.

Hey!  They were great live!   3 times!

Sevendust were great live three times? How many concerts have they played??

[senecadawg2]

The word "oversight" is jumping out at me.

22?

[LithoJazzoSphere]

I'll explain what I meant in the full write-up, plus of course things can and often do change with further listens anyway.

I'm guessing it's some of the King Diamond/Halford-esque high screams, that's usually what people point out anyway. 

[ariich]

I'll explain what I meant in the full write-up, plus of course things can and often do change with further listens anyway.

I'm guessing it's some of the King Diamond/Halford-esque high screams, that's usually what people point out anyway. 

Correct.


Anyway apparently the impressions this round are really obvious. Stadler and seneca, also correct.

[jingle.boy]

[jingle – Triosphere] 17. Big sound, huge voice and, especially in the last two songs, strong hooks - this seems like a pretty safe bet.

Though, one time I tried to play it "safe" I got eliminated (Darwin's Radio).

I was kinda on the fence with Onwards, but I love the Gladiator sample - leading into some heavy af riffage.

Heart's Dominion is my go-to song by them.  World's Apart is a 1b option, so I knew I was sending those 2 tracks from the moment I decided on them.

[jingle.boy]

Anyway apparently the impressions this round are really obvious. Stadler and seneca, also correct.

Or we're just finally getting better at reading you. 

[lonestar]

*waits for Hanabie to earworm their way into Rich's heart*

[King Postwhore]

7?

Yep.

Hey!  They were great live!   3 times!

Sevendust were great live three times? How many concerts have they played??

More than the 3 times I saw them.  *Waves Tim away*

[ariich]

Anyway apparently the impressions this round are really obvious. Stadler and seneca, also correct.

Or we're just finally getting better at reading you. 

Well, there's probably an element of that, but I think it's more driven by the fact that since the start of this roulette, I've deliberately tried to make my first impressions a bit more detailed and less vague. That's why they're so much longer than in past roulettes. I figured I don't mind people guessing them straight away, but I wanted to give a slightly fuller impression of my initial reaction this time. I'm quite liking it so may maintain this approach in future too.

[ariich]

Though, one time I tried to play it "safe" I got eliminated (Darwin's Radio).

Funnily enough, that's one of the main examples that prompted me to start explaining what the features of music are that appeal to me and mainly inform my opinions rather than basing things on genres or even the same musicians.

[faizoff]

2 or 5?

[Lonk]

7?

Yep.

Hey!  They were great live!   3 times!

I have a drumstick at home that I caught at one of their shows. Pretty good band live 

[ariich]

2 or 5?

Indeed it was 2, the clue being that Meshuggah is the only band this round that I've heard before!