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Offline Trav86

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Re: This or That - DT edition
« Reply #70 on: February 16, 2023, 06:16:43 PM »
LTE 1
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« Reply #71 on: February 17, 2023, 07:26:12 AM »
Catching up on the last 3:

The Alien> PBD, easily. PBD is very good but hasn’t had nearly the same longevity as The Alien has had for me.
Score>Budokan. This one was really tough; I think I prefer Budokan’s set list by a hair, but Score is just so epic and I’ve probably listened to it more than I’ve listened to Budokan.
LTE2>LTE1. When the Water Breaks is one of my favorite instrumentals of all time, and I like more songs on LTE2 than LTE1.
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« Reply #72 on: February 17, 2023, 11:31:27 AM »
LTE1. Paradigm Shift is my favorite LTE song.
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Re: This or That - DT edition
« Reply #73 on: February 19, 2023, 02:40:07 PM »
Quote from: gzarruk on February 13, 2023, 07:00:46 AM
Today we look at two of the biggest fan-favorite live albums: Live at Budokan vs Score

Budokan easily. I was never a huge fan of the Octavarium album and I don't really enjoy the setlist on Score. I think there were a lot of shows on the Octavarium tour with far superior sets like the Chile 2005 show that was filmed. Honestly I prefer Chaos in Motion to Score.
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« Reply #74 on: February 21, 2023, 10:32:55 AM »
Quote from: gzarruk on February 13, 2023, 07:00:46 AM

Today we look at two of the biggest fan-favorite live albums: Live at Budokan vs Score

Budokan. The production and direction is much better.  Score picture and sound is too compressed. Maybe in HD would be better.
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Re: This or That - DT edition
« Reply #75 on: February 21, 2023, 10:50:12 AM »
Quote from: javidt on February 21, 2023, 10:32:55 AM
Quote from: gzarruk on February 13, 2023, 07:00:46 AM

Today we look at two of the biggest fan-favorite live albums: Live at Budokan vs Score

Budokan. The production and direction is much better.  Score picture and sound is too compressed. Maybe in HD would be better.

It sucks Score didn't get released on blu-ray, it would have really made the picture and sound soooo much better.  It gets too grainy on DVD.  Budokan eventually got a blu-ray release, but it didn't need it as bad as Score.
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« Reply #76 on: February 21, 2023, 11:26:16 AM »
I would've thought LTE was more popular around these woods :eek

Anyway, here's the updated scoreboard so far:
1. TDEN 9 - 9 S2N
2. SDV 8 - 12 Disappear
3. PBD 7 - 5 TA
4. Budokan 8 - 7 Score
5. LTE (1) 2 - 2 LTE (2)

There's a couple ties in there, so if anyone wants to break them, feel free to do it :P
I'm also taking suggestions for future rounds, just please no "Portnoy vs Mangini" entries.

For round 6, we'll face the two latest mega epics: Illumination Theory vs A View From The Top of the World
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« Reply #77 on: February 21, 2023, 11:27:05 AM »
Quote from: gzarruk on February 21, 2023, 11:26:16 AM
For round 6, we'll face the two latest mega epics: Illumination Theory vs A View From The Top of the World

IT.  Not close.
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Re: This or That - DT edition
« Reply #78 on: February 21, 2023, 11:56:39 AM »
Quote from: gzarruk on February 21, 2023, 11:26:16 AM
For round 6, we'll face the two latest mega epics: Illumination Theory vs A View From The Top of the World

AVFTTOTW.

No. Contest.
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Re: This or That - DT edition
« Reply #79 on: February 21, 2023, 12:37:55 PM »
Quote from: gzarruk on February 21, 2023, 11:26:16 AM
For round 6, we'll face the two latest mega epics: Illumination Theory vs A View From The Top of the World
I really like AVFTTOTW, but it isn't in the same league as IT.
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« Reply #80 on: February 21, 2023, 12:50:28 PM »
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 21, 2023, 12:37:55 PM
Quote from: gzarruk on February 21, 2023, 11:26:16 AM
For round 6, we'll face the two latest mega epics: Illumination Theory vs A View From The Top of the World
I really like AVFTTOTW, but it isn't in the same league as IT.

IT. a top DT song for me. I really enjoy AVFTTOTW, but it isn't one of my top DT songs or DT epics.
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Re: This or That - DT edition
« Reply #81 on: February 21, 2023, 05:32:31 PM »
A View by a country mile.
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« Reply #82 on: February 21, 2023, 06:40:38 PM »

Illumination Theory. My dad would play it on the sound system he installed in our family room. It reminds me of him.
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« Reply #83 on: February 22, 2023, 07:54:45 AM »
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Quote from: Cool Chris on February 21, 2023, 05:32:31 PM
A View by a country mile.

This. To me Illumination Theory is by far the most forgettable epic in the catalog.

And adding a vote to Score. Though it's interesting that I think those two released back to back are both incredibly strong. But Score is one of the best concerts I've ever been to.
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Re: This or That - DT edition
« Reply #84 on: February 22, 2023, 09:05:31 AM »
A View, but not by much for me.  I don't think either are strong epics for DT.
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« Reply #85 on: February 22, 2023, 11:33:56 AM »
I find Illumination theory much more interesting. It's great, actually.
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« Reply #86 on: February 22, 2023, 01:47:38 PM »
Quote from: Nick on February 22, 2023, 07:54:45 AM
And adding a vote to Score.

YESSS!!!! ✨ My very first exposure to DT. I am a fan because of Score.

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Offline Trav86

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« Reply #87 on: February 22, 2023, 01:55:19 PM »
A View, hands down.
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Re: This or That - DT edition
« Reply #88 on: February 23, 2023, 06:52:26 AM »
A view for me as well. All that IT has going for it is that little piano piece at the very end of the song.
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Re: This or That - DT edition
« Reply #89 on: February 23, 2023, 09:16:50 AM »
AVFTTOTW, although it is close for me.
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« Reply #90 on: February 23, 2023, 10:15:16 AM »

1. TDEN > S2N
2. SDV < Disappear
3. PBD < TA
4. Budokan > Score
5. LTE (1)< LTE (2)

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« Reply #91 on: February 23, 2023, 10:58:11 AM »
Tough one,

A View I guess.
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« Reply #92 on: February 23, 2023, 07:58:25 PM »
Catching up with the last few:

The Alien over Pale Blue Dot: not a huge fan of PBD...it's one of the "bigger" songs on D/T that didn't quite stick. The Alien is a good one.

Budokan over Score: I don't love everything about Budokan, but there is some amazing stuff in there. Same can be said for Score, really, but Budokan edges it out

LTE1 over LTE2: This is really close.

Illumination over A View: I like, don't love, both songs. IT has a slight edge for me.
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« Reply #93 on: February 24, 2023, 09:59:41 AM »
Looks like the new epic slayed its slightly older brother :D

As always, here's the updated scoreboard:
1. TDEN 10 - 9 S2N
2. SDV 8 - 13 Disappear
3. PBD 7 - 7 TA
4. Budokan 10 - 9 Score
5. LTE (1) 3 - 3 LTE (2)
6. IT 6 - 10 AVFTTOTW

Now, who's ready for round 7? This one comes thanks to JeopardousRaven. We talked about two of the band's most beloved live albums, but why don't we face two that aren't too loved by the fanbase?

Once in a Livetime vs Chaos in Motion
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Re: This or That - DT edition
« Reply #94 on: February 24, 2023, 10:32:15 AM »
OIAL
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« Reply #95 on: February 24, 2023, 03:19:12 PM »
Quote from: gzarruk on February 24, 2023, 09:59:41 AM
Once in a Livetime vs Chaos in Motion

This is a weird comparison (audio album v. video).  I think OIAL is a well below average live album.  Disc 1 of CIM is not very good, but the second disc with the "bonus" features is pretty cool.  Not really sure how to compare the two, though.  I guess I'd pick CIM, but I might vote differently if the comparison were between CIM and 5YIAL.
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« Reply #96 on: February 24, 2023, 04:30:49 PM »
OIAL. My first DT live album.
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« Reply #97 on: February 24, 2023, 06:03:54 PM »
I really loved OIAL but it aged poorly for me so I'm goin to go with Chaos in Motion.
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« Reply #98 on: February 24, 2023, 07:12:51 PM »
I missed out on OiaL at the time for reasons not worth going in to in this thread. I saw a few clips of songs from CiM on YouTube and decided not to buy it. I got around to listening to OiaL sometime in the early 00s, and that was probably the last time I bothered with it. I came to enjoy some of the songs from CiM so I will go with that one.
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« Reply #99 on: February 24, 2023, 08:34:25 PM »

Tough call. The processing on James's voice in CIM is dreadful at points, and I heard that album during a rough time in my life. But OIALT is filled with a lot of DT songs I don't really like as much as others. I guess OIALT - me and my sister both really loved that version of Hollow Years back in the early 2000s.
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« Reply #100 on: February 25, 2023, 05:40:14 PM »
Thanks for the shoutout. I have to give it to CiM. I really like all of the songs on this live album, especially the long version of Surrounded. I think if OiaL featured the full setlist performed that night with Under a Glass Moon, Burning My Soul, Anna Lee, etc it might take the cake.
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« Reply #101 on: February 25, 2023, 06:45:56 PM »

Wow. Why was OIALT shortened? Was that a demand of the record label?
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« Reply #102 on: February 26, 2023, 02:15:40 PM »
Quote from: EPIC Outro on February 25, 2023, 06:45:56 PM

Wow. Why was OIALT shortened? Was that a demand of the record label?

I don't know if we ever got an official reason but I'm guessing it was just because of a tight budget and the band not having enough record label credibility to get a 3 CD release yet.
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« Reply #103 on: February 26, 2023, 04:08:57 PM »
It is barely good enough for a 1 CD release.
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« Reply #104 on: February 26, 2023, 09:25:13 PM »
Quote from: Cool Chris on February 26, 2023, 04:08:57 PM
It is barely good enough for a 1 CD release.

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