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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #140 on: November 24, 2022, 08:10:12 AM »
I hope they don't replace any of the songs from the new album, it's that album they're promoting after all. I would replace Bridges, Endless Sacrifice and 6:00.

If they replace any song from the new album, it'll likely be with a different song from the new album.
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« Reply #141 on: November 24, 2022, 08:59:40 AM »
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« Reply #142 on: November 24, 2022, 09:17:49 AM »
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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #143 on: November 24, 2022, 09:32:18 AM »
I wish they'll do another mini acoustic set like they did back in ADTOE tour with Disappear and Out Of Reach.
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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #144 on: November 24, 2022, 09:35:16 AM »
I wish they'll do another mini acoustic set like they did back in ADTOE tour with Disappear and Out Of Reach.

If I had to sit through the excruciating Out Of Reach to also get Disappear, then I would, and it'd be especially cool in an acoustic type setting. I would not be happy if they gave a full song slot to Out Of Reach at a show though.
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« Reply #145 on: November 24, 2022, 03:19:30 PM »
I wish they'll do another mini acoustic set like they did back in ADTOE tour with Disappear and Out Of Reach.

If I had to sit through the excruciating Out Of Reach Disappear to also get Disappear Out of Reach, then I would, and it'd be especially cool in an acoustic type setting. I would not be happy if they gave a full song slot to Out Of Reach at a show though.

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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #146 on: November 24, 2022, 07:22:38 PM »

In the video JP says "we're playing some NEW music that we've never played live before." My guess is that probably means songs from AVFTTOTW, maybe DOT.

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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #147 on: November 26, 2022, 08:11:39 AM »
It could very well be that they drop About to Crash and 6:00 and I will be so pleased if they change those with other songs from those particular albums. Lets say, The Glass Prison and Voices. Although it will be hard to pick songs that LaBrie is still able to sing. And Voices will probably not be in this area. I think they will keep The Ministry of Lost Souls (was the high of last Tour, next to The Count) but if they don't, I hope it will be Prophets of War, that fills the void.
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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #148 on: November 26, 2022, 10:45:31 AM »
I hope they do another North American run.  Love this tour!

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« Reply #149 on: November 26, 2022, 08:29:55 PM »
Lets say, The Glass Prison and Voices. Although it will be hard to pick songs that LaBrie is still able to sing. And Voices will probably not be in this area.
Yeah, I think Voices won't return to the setlist because it's so vocally challenging (I don't think they're willing to abridge it to skip the most difficult vocal section), but I also think TGP is also off the table - too challenging for JP to play cleanly enough to where he'd be willing to add it to the setlist.
 
 
I hope they do another North American run.  Love this tour!
Given that they're doing a second run through Europe and they've talked about spending a lot of 2023 touring, I would expect another run through North America will happen, especially if there's some changes to the setlist as JP says there will be.
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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #150 on: November 27, 2022, 03:05:02 AM »

Has JP ever dropped a song before because it was too difficult to play cleanly? I just can't see him holding back an awesome song like TGP from a future setlist for that reason.

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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #151 on: November 27, 2022, 06:52:53 AM »
It could very well be that they drop About to Crash....

I'm not the hugest fan of ATC, but I thought it was a great choice with perfect placement for this set.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #152 on: November 27, 2022, 08:19:16 AM »
Lets say, The Glass Prison and Voices. Although it will be hard to pick songs that LaBrie is still able to sing. And Voices will probably not be in this area.
Yeah, I think Voices won't return to the setlist because it's so vocally challenging (I don't think they're willing to abridge it to skip the most difficult vocal section), but I also think TGP is also off the table - too challenging for JP to play cleanly enough to where he'd be willing to add it to the setlist.
 
 
I hope they do another North American run.  Love this tour!
Given that they're doing a second run through Europe and they've talked about spending a lot of 2023 touring, I would expect another run through North America will happen, especially if there's some changes to the setlist as JP says there will be.

I would hope so, I really enjoyed the last tour. Hell I'll just be happy to see them.

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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #153 on: November 27, 2022, 01:09:56 PM »

Has JP ever dropped a song before because it was too difficult to play cleanly? I just can't see him holding back an awesome song like TGP from a future setlist for that reason.

It has been said for a while now that The Glass Prison has been avoided specifically for that reason.
I don't know if there is any official reference to that, though.

If you see footage from the Gigantour (2005, and if I'm not mistaken they've not played it since) you can notice JP using alternate picking for the intro instead of sweep picking. I think the main factor was the tempo being faster because MP used to do that during lives.

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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #154 on: November 27, 2022, 01:12:05 PM »
If you see footage from the Gigantour (2005, and if I'm not mistaken they've not played it since)

Well, the 8V tour in '06, but yeah, the same tour cycle.


I don't know if there is any official reference to that, though.

I am not familiar with one.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #155 on: November 27, 2022, 03:48:30 PM »
If you see footage from the Gigantour (2005, and if I'm not mistaken they've not played it since)

Well, the 8V tour in '06, but yeah, the same tour cycle.

Yep, that tour started with the European summer leg (first time I saw them live, June 23rd 2005 with Labyrinth and Angra opening), and last time TGP was played was in Wallingford, CT on March 29th 2006.

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« Reply #156 on: November 27, 2022, 11:05:20 PM »
Has JP ever dropped a song before because it was too difficult to play cleanly? I just can't see him holding back an awesome song like TGP from a future setlist for that reason.
I can see him doing it for that reason. I mean, just the fact that (as has been pointed out), it hasn't been played for 16 years now says something, even if unspoken.

I'm not aware of any song being ignored or dropped for that reason, but I do know that JP is very particular about playing cleanly, and I know he has publicly regretted copying what JR does from 2:22-2:52 in TGP which was a real struggle for him to perform live. And I'm almost positive he also struggled a lot with the instrumental section in BF where he doubled JR from about 7:56-8:23. That's why I don't think either of those songs will be played again as long as JP is in control of the setlist.
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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #157 on: November 28, 2022, 01:25:40 AM »
Do we have any idea who the opening act on the next European leg will be?

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« Reply #158 on: November 28, 2022, 08:07:23 AM »
Do we have any idea who the opening act on the next European leg will be?

Me. They saw my cover of Beneath the Surface on YouTube after 7 years and thought I’d be a good fit with my solo acoustic shows. Personally, I am packing it, but if DT have faith in me, well, I gotta answer the call.

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« Reply #159 on: November 28, 2022, 08:12:54 AM »

Sons of Apollo is opening.

Kidding! But now that Portnoy is on friendly terms with DT, maybe one day?

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« Reply #160 on: November 28, 2022, 08:56:50 AM »

Sons of Apollo is opening.

Kidding! But now that Portnoy is on friendly terms with DT, maybe one day?

Nothing official, but it seems like SOA don't have any plans to continue anytime soon...
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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #161 on: November 28, 2022, 11:45:06 AM »

Sons of Apollo is opening.

Kidding! But now that Portnoy is on friendly terms with DT, maybe one day?

Nothing official, but it seems like SOA don't have any plans to continue anytime soon...
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« Reply #162 on: November 28, 2022, 03:10:18 PM »

That's a shame. Their music was a lot of fun.

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« Reply #163 on: November 28, 2022, 06:37:21 PM »
It's such a great personnel lineup but I found the songs a little lackluster. Sometimes those supergroups underperform expectations by a mile. Chickenfoot comes to mind along with Sons of Apollo. The songs were not bad by any means, but on paper I expected better songwriting.

It boggles the mind how DT- a supergroup in its own way- manages to write its best material after 10 albums and 25 years.

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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #164 on: November 28, 2022, 06:39:21 PM »
It's such a great personnel lineup but I found the songs a little lackluster. Sometimes those supergroups underperform expectations by a mile. Chickenfoot comes to mind along with Sons of Apollo. The songs were not bad by any means, but on paper I expected better songwriting.


It has always been the case.
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« Reply #165 on: November 28, 2022, 06:47:43 PM »
It's such a great personnel lineup but I found the songs a little lackluster. Sometimes those supergroups underperform expectations by a mile. Chickenfoot comes to mind along with Sons of Apollo. The songs were not bad by any means, but on paper I expected better songwriting.


It has always been the case.

I think Winery Dogs had 1 brilliant album (first one). Flying Colors too. The following albums in each case were nowhere near as good, in my humble opinion, but both debuts were gems.

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« Reply #166 on: November 28, 2022, 06:54:27 PM »
Black Country Communion is a good example of a supergroup that worked really well, I can't remember of bad songs from them at all. Really good chemistry

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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #167 on: November 29, 2022, 06:20:42 AM »
Has JP ever dropped a song before because it was too difficult to play cleanly? I just can't see him holding back an awesome song like TGP from a future setlist for that reason.
I can see him doing it for that reason. I mean, just the fact that (as has been pointed out), it hasn't been played for 16 years now says something, even if unspoken.

I'm not aware of any song being ignored or dropped for that reason, but I do know that JP is very particular about playing cleanly, and I know he has publicly regretted copying what JR does from 2:22-2:52 in TGP which was a real struggle for him to perform live. And I'm almost positive he also struggled a lot with the instrumental section in BF where he doubled JR from about 7:56-8:23. That's why I don't think either of those songs will be played again as long as JP is in control of the setlist.

That's a shame, because I would love to see both of those songs live. I did get to see TGP when Portnoy at the Shattered Fortress show.
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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #168 on: November 29, 2022, 03:01:09 PM »
i've seen the glass prison live, but considering the upcoming show will probably my last time i'll go see them i hope they throw out count for prison

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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #169 on: December 01, 2022, 11:32:36 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDcXlFl1guM

now we know one of the new songs they're playing :-)

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Re: Top Of The World Tour 2023
« Reply #171 on: December 01, 2022, 12:52:31 PM »
Ah just the best song on A View... I hope they pull it out and it makes its way to the US

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« Reply #172 on: December 01, 2022, 01:04:34 PM »
I really, really like Answering the Call so that would be just fine by me. Curious which one would be cut off. I think it'll be Invinsible Monster.
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« Reply #173 on: December 01, 2022, 09:32:51 PM »
I'd take Sleeping Giant over Answering the Call.
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« Reply #174 on: December 01, 2022, 10:11:17 PM »
The only one I'd actually be excited about is Transcending time.