The downfall of Twitter/the rise of X

[XJDenton]

I'm reading this, and you are, of course, factually correct.   But I'm also reading this and thinking - since I'm not a fan of social media AT ALL, and think at best it's only neutral on a value scale - this IS social media. Social media IS all about having "some kind of status".  You're focusing on the positive aspects, but maybe not Stephen King, but people who are famous for being famous - who count their "likes" - the blue check IS status.   Twitter, except for the most basic of information regarding concert dates and the like, ISN'T trustworthy.   Don't try to tell me that the "Paid Democratic Operatives" and the "MAGA Russian Bots" are furthering any discourse in America at this time.  They are not.

Regardless of whether the information itself is "trustworthy" (and to dismiss all information on Twitter as unreliable is IMO just as fallacious as accepting all information as true uncritically), I could at least be ensured in the past that that an account calling itself BBC News with a blue check was in fact BBC News, or that a bloke with a blue tick with the title "Middle East correspondent for Deutsche Welle" does in fact hold that position, rather than them being some crypto bell-end in Russia putting out fake press releases to grift people.

By an large, the people who got blue ticks weren't people who were "famous for being famous". If they were, I would hold a greater degree of agreement with you.

We can debate whether this is short-sighted or not, and I understand the argument as to why it is, but I reckon that, like El Barto has pointed out a couple times now, Musk is doing this in real time.  He's got better data than you, me or Xe has, by a long shot.

He's also demonstrated that he is capable of extremely bad judgement and can be driven by ego and "memes" rather than data when he prefers.

[hefdaddy42]

By an large, the people who got blue ticks weren't people who were "famous for being famous".

Right.  Most of those people make their home on Instagram.

[Lonk]

So, I have never created a twitter account, but every so often to check the page for some of the artists I'm interested in just to see if they have any updates. Well, turns out I cannot do that anymore, because unless I'm logged into an account, any twitter link redirects you to a log in/sign up page 

[TAC]

So, I have never created a twitter account, but every so often to check the page for some of the artists I'm interested in just to see if they have any updates. Well, turns out I cannot do that anymore, because unless I'm logged into an account, any twitter link redirects you to a log in/sign up page 

I saw this post this morning, and you're right. WTF? I usually check out the twitters of some of the hockey writers, which would come in handy tomorrow as Free Agency begins.

[Anguyen92]

You would have to create burner accounts on Twitter using those 10 min. email thingamabob if you really want to look at Twitter posts, but not partake in it.

[TAC]

You would have to create burner accounts on Twitter using those 10 min. email thingamabob if you really want to look at Twitter posts, but not partake in it.

Yeah, nah, I'm good.

[lonestar]

You would have to create burner accounts on Twitter using those 10 min. email thingamabob if you really want to look at Twitter posts, but not partake in it.

Yeah I have a throwaway email I use for all my socials and whatever sites just ask for them (including DTF lol)... occasionally I check the inbox because things like Fandango and Livenation are tied to it and I sometimes need tix or whatever, and that inbox looks like the opening scene of Wall-E 

[XJDenton]

I saw this post this morning, and you're right. WTF? I usually check out the twitters of some of the hockey writers, which would come in handy tomorrow as Free Agency begins.

Apparently Elon implemented it to stop orgs scraping the data.

[cramx3]

I saw this post this morning, and you're right. WTF? I usually check out the twitters of some of the hockey writers, which would come in handy tomorrow as Free Agency begins.

Apparently Elon implemented it to stop orgs scraping the data.

and a post view limit? wtf this new change is getting ripped on twitter right now

[HOF]

Yep, this is going to push most of us elsewhere. I’d give it a half a day until he reversed this policy.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2023/07/01/elon-musk-twitter-tweet-reading-limits/70375995007/

[ProfessorPeart]

There's word that Muskrat's post about limits is a ruse. They apparently created a DDOS on themselves when they implemented that new policy. Someone posted the reciepts out there showing the kind of traffic he was creating towards Twitter when trying to access a post while not logged in. It's pretty hilarious.

https://www.dexerto.com/tech/twitter-users-claim-elon-musks-recent-changes-may-be-self-ddosing-the-platform-2196413/

[XJDenton]

I've also seen reports that this might be tied to them not paying Google their cloud services bill. Given how much money the site seems to be haemorrhaging atm, could well be plausible.

[ReaperKK]

Maybe Elon is taking a note from the school of Trump and just not paying bills

[lonestar]

Elon is threatening to sue Zuck over Threads... This will be interesting.

[King Postwhore]

I think my life is better not knowing the nonsense between 2 rich assholes. 

I have other stupid stuff to argue about online.   

[Anguyen92]

Elon is threatening to sue Zuck over Threads... This will be interesting.

I thought these guys agreed that they were going to fight each other somewhere.  Can they just rent a barn out in the middle of nowhere and they can just beat the crap out of each other and then make peace?

[axeman90210]

Elon is threatening to sue Zuck over Threads... This will be interesting.

I thought these guys agreed that they were going to fight each other somewhere.  Can they just rent a barn out in the middle of nowhere and they can just beat the crap out of each other and then make peace?

They were supposed to and then Elon's mom wouldn't sign his permission slip 

[MirrorMask]

Elon is threatening to sue Zuck over Threads... This will be interesting.

 

[jingle.boy]

I think my life is better not knowing the nonsense between 2 rich assholes being being on twitter

Fix'd for me

[King Postwhore]

Lol

It's weird that people just can't scroll on by anymore. People have lost the ability to do that.

[KevShmev]

Musk's eccentricity aside, the minute you start criticizing your boss and/or place of employment on social media (not to mention the social media for whom you work!!), you are asking to get fired.  I never feel sorry for anyone in those scenarios.  Play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.

[Stadler]

Musk's eccentricity aside, the minute you start criticizing your boss and/or place of employment on social media (not to mention the social media for whom you work!!), you are asking to get fired.  I never feel sorry for anyone in those scenarios.  Play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.

Related, but not, but sort of... I clicked on one of those "click bait" sites for "10 best interview fails" or something like that, and every single one was some one bragging about how they went into an interview and "handed it" to the interviewer, smart-mouthing back to questions they felt were stupid, criticizing them for not offering water or coffee...

I get wanting to see if a company is a good fit.   I get that an interview is a two-way street of sorts.  I get that most people don't have the first f------g clue on how to interview someone.  But not everything is a battle, not everything needs to be reduced to a twitter validation or affirmation.  My goodness; I've been arguing that people are insecure for some time now, but are they THAT insecure that that have to feel like they're getting one over on someone that is actively trying to HELP them (by potentially giving them a job)?   We're bordering on pathetic now.

[KevShmev]

Musk's eccentricity aside, the minute you start criticizing your boss and/or place of employment on social media (not to mention the social media for whom you work!!), you are asking to get fired.  I never feel sorry for anyone in those scenarios.  Play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.

Related, but not, but sort of... I clicked on one of those "click bait" sites for "10 best interview fails" or something like that, and every single one was some one bragging about how they went into an interview and "handed it" to the interviewer, smart-mouthing back to questions they felt were stupid, criticizing them for not offering water or coffee...

I get wanting to see if a company is a good fit.   I get that an interview is a two-way street of sorts.  I get that most people don't have the first f------g clue on how to interview someone.  But not everything is a battle, not everything needs to be reduced to a twitter validation or affirmation.  My goodness; I've been arguing that people are insecure for some time now, but are they THAT insecure that that have to feel like they're getting one over on someone that is actively trying to HELP them (by potentially giving them a job)?   We're bordering on pathetic now.

I cannot remember where I read it (it might have been here ), but I recall the blurb about someone doing a facetime interview and then getting upset and offended when they were asked to come into the office to do an in-person interview.   Probably one of those "I am awesome, and you should just take my word for it and hire me immediately" people who are becoming more and more common.

[lonestar]

Musk's eccentricity aside, the minute you start criticizing your boss and/or place of employment on social media (not to mention the social media for whom you work!!), you are asking to get fired.  I never feel sorry for anyone in those scenarios.  Play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.

Related, but not, but sort of... I clicked on one of those "click bait" sites for "10 best interview fails" or something like that, and every single one was some one bragging about how they went into an interview and "handed it" to the interviewer, smart-mouthing back to questions they felt were stupid, criticizing them for not offering water or coffee...

I get wanting to see if a company is a good fit.   I get that an interview is a two-way street of sorts.  I get that most people don't have the first f------g clue on how to interview someone.  But not everything is a battle, not everything needs to be reduced to a twitter validation or affirmation.  My goodness; I've been arguing that people are insecure for some time now, but are they THAT insecure that that have to feel like they're getting one over on someone that is actively trying to HELP them (by potentially giving them a job)?   We're bordering on pathetic now.

I cannot remember where I read it (it might have been here ), but I recall the blurb about someone doing a facetime interview and then getting upset and offended when they were asked to come into the office to do an in-person interview.   Probably one of those "I am awesome, and you should just take my word for it and hire me immediately" people who are becoming more and more common.

That's why I love kitchens and how we do 'Stages' (try outs), can find out in a 4 hour shift for sure if someone knows what the fuck they're doing

[TAC]

That's why I love kitchens and how we do 'Stages' (try outs), can find out in a 4 hour shift for sure if someone knows what the fuck they're doing

In college, I interviewed for a management position with Taco Bell, and they had me come out and do a "Realistic". It was like 2 or 3 hours. After the first hour, I was literally the best worker they had on that shift.

[lonestar]

That's why I love kitchens and how we do 'Stages' (try outs), can find out in a 4 hour shift for sure if someone knows what the fuck they're doing

In college, I interviewed for a management position with Taco Bell, and they had me come out and do a "Realistic". It was like 2 or 3 hours. After the first hour, I was literally the best worker they had on that shift.

For general linecooks, we just have them work part of or a whole shift, you can easily tell if they're up to snuff or not in that amount of time. At my level, it usually involves a full tasting. My last gig I had to do a salad, an entree, a fish entree, a passed app and a plated app. Then basically the whole hotel management team came and critiqued it, it's hella nervewraking. My current gig the boss already knew my skills so I just did a day in the kitchen more to see if I was interested in their operation, that's the difference between applying and being pursued in my business.

[TAC]

That's why I love kitchens and how we do 'Stages' (try outs), can find out in a 4 hour shift for sure if someone knows what the fuck they're doing

In college, I interviewed for a management position with Taco Bell, and they had me come out and do a "Realistic". It was like 2 or 3 hours. After the first hour, I was literally the best worker they had on that shift.

For general linecooks, we just have them work part of or a whole shift, you can easily tell if they're up to snuff or not in that amount of time. At my level, it usually involves a full tasting. My last gig I had to do a salad, an entree, a fish entree, a passed app and a plated app. Then basically the whole hotel management team came and critiqued it, it's hella nervewraking. My current gig the boss already knew my skills so I just did a day in the kitchen more to see if I was interested in their operation, that's the difference between applying and being pursued in my business.

That's all very interesting. 

[ReaperKK]

That's why I love kitchens and how we do 'Stages' (try outs), can find out in a 4 hour shift for sure if someone knows what the fuck they're doing

In college, I interviewed for a management position with Taco Bell, and they had me come out and do a "Realistic". It was like 2 or 3 hours. After the first hour, I was literally the best worker they had on that shift.

For general linecooks, we just have them work part of or a whole shift, you can easily tell if they're up to snuff or not in that amount of time. At my level, it usually involves a full tasting. My last gig I had to do a salad, an entree, a fish entree, a passed app and a plated app. Then basically the whole hotel management team came and critiqued it, it's hella nervewraking. My current gig the boss already knew my skills so I just did a day in the kitchen more to see if I was interested in their operation, that's the difference between applying and being pursued in my business.

That's all very interesting. 

Yea it really is! How many kitchen staff do you work alongside?

[lonestar]

That's why I love kitchens and how we do 'Stages' (try outs), can find out in a 4 hour shift for sure if someone knows what the fuck they're doing

In college, I interviewed for a management position with Taco Bell, and they had me come out and do a "Realistic". It was like 2 or 3 hours. After the first hour, I was literally the best worker they had on that shift.

For general linecooks, we just have them work part of or a whole shift, you can easily tell if they're up to snuff or not in that amount of time. At my level, it usually involves a full tasting. My last gig I had to do a salad, an entree, a fish entree, a passed app and a plated app. Then basically the whole hotel management team came and critiqued it, it's hella nervewraking. My current gig the boss already knew my skills so I just did a day in the kitchen more to see if I was interested in their operation, that's the difference between applying and being pursued in my business.

That's all very interesting. 

Yea it really is! How many kitchen staff do you work alongside?

Just 3 of us... My current account is very small, a top tier law firm with their own private bistro, I serve around 40 people a day.

My company has much larger accounts though, including Facebook, Lyft, and Marvell, all of which have brigades of up to 100 people.

I'll take my tiny kitchen though, love the hands on feel of it.

[Zydar]

I just deactivated my Twitter account. Feels good, although I never really used it much honestly.

So a heads up for those few of you DTFers who follows me there. Whenever Threads become availabile in the EU/Sweden I'll check it out.

[lonestar]

I just deactivated my Twitter account. Feels good, although I never really used it much honestly.

So a heads up for those few of you DTFers who follows me there. Whenever Threads become availabile in the EU/Sweden I'll check it out.

Would if I could... it's amazing how invested the Japanese musicians still are on that platform. They're slowly migrating to IG, so hopefully one day I can ditch it as well.

[cramx3]

I won't be using threads.  It seems you can't delete your account there unless you delete your instagram account.

It's weird because for awhile I was anti-facebook mostly because I don't like Mark Zuckerburg.  So I got big into using twitter instead.  Of course now it's owned by Elon and it's like well, I don't want to support him either, but I certainly don't want to support Zuckerburg still too. 

I guess the option is to not use it at all, but I enjoy it still.  I have a lot of fun tweeting and interacting with others over there.  It is what it is I guess, but I'm not doubling down on Threads. 

I'm also not buying into the hype of the millions of installs last week.  Let's see how it plays out in the long run vs. initial installs because they already had a huge base of people to pull from making that stat a bit less impressive for me.

[Skeever]

Meta and anything Meta-related is a non-started for me. So no Threads.
I'll stay on the sinking Twitter ship, or maybe check out BlueSky if that sticks.

[HOF]

I think the tweet limit has been quietly lifted (and was apparently something to do with Elon not paying his hosting bill or something like that). I haven't had any issues since the first weekend it was announced. Also, Threads from what I've heard is pointless and will likely disappear in a few weeks/months.

[XeRocks81]

so are they for real with this « X » business? Seems too stupid but here we are https://www.axios.com/2023/07/23/twitter-x-logo-elon-musk