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Genesis Survivor 2022 - Results & Discussion
« on: September 06, 2022, 01:05:40 PM »
In celebration of Genesis' 55th Anniversary, I've decided to bring back the Genesis Survivor after ten years away! Whew, has it really been that long?! :lol

As we go through each album, I will update their respective survivor results as they are finished. I will run two album survivors concurrently at any given time, and each round will run for two days, so be sure to check the forum at least every other day to vote!

Each of the band's main 15 albums will be represented, and then Consolation Rounds for all the Third Place songs in the album survivors (5th and 6th for The Lamb). The top two in each of the 15 albums will advance to the Finals (top four for The Lamb), and the top three in the Consolation will also advance to the Finals, for a total of 35 songs in the Finals!

This time I've decided to forgo the B-Sides, Non-Album songs, and bonus tracks, just to streamline the survivor a bit more and not drag it out a bit with songs that most fans won't be familiar with.

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From Genesis To Revelation
01. Where The Sour Turns To Sweet
02. In The Beginning
03. Fireside Song
04. The Serpent
05. In The Wilderness
06. The Conqueror
07. In Hiding
       One Day
09. Window
       In Limbo
11. Am I Very Wrong?
       The Silent Sun
13. A Place To Call My Own

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Trespass
01. The Knife
02. Stagnation
03. White Mountain
04. Looking For Someone
05. Dusk
06. Visions Of Angels

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Nursery Cryme
01. The Musical Box
02. The Fountain Of Salmacis
03. The Return Of The Giant Hogweed
04. Seven Stones
05. Harold The Barrel
06. For Absent Friends
07. Harlequin

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Foxtrot
01. Supper's Ready
02. Watcher Of The Skies
03. Can-Utility And The Coastliners
04. Get'Em Out By Friday
05. Time Table
06. Horizons

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Selling England By The Pound
01. The Cinema Show
02. Firth Of Fifth
03. Dancing With The Moonlit Knight
04. The Battle Of Epping Forest
05. I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)
06. After The Ordeal
07. More Fool Me
08. Aisle Of Plenty

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The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
01. In The Cage
02. The Colony Of Slippermen
03. Back In N.Y.C.
      The Carpet Crawlers
05. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
06. Counting Out Time
07. The Lamia
08. Lilywhite Lilith
09. Fly On A Windshield
10. it.
11. Anyway
12. Cuckoo Cocoon
      The Chamber Of 32 Doors
14. Here Comes The Supernatural Anaesthetist
15. Broadway Melody Of 1974
      Hairless Heart
      The Light Lies Down On Broadway
18. Riding The Scree
19. The Grand Parade Of Lifeless Packaging
      The Waiting Room
      In The Rapids
22. Silent Sorrow In Empty Boats
23. Ravine

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A Trick Of The Tail
01. Dance On A Volcano
       Squonk
03. Entangled
04. Mad Man Moon
05. A Trick Of The Tail
06. Ripples...
07. Robbery, Assault And Battery
08. Los Endos
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Wind & Wuthering
01. One For The Vine
02. Eleventh Earl Of Mar
03. Blood On The Rooftops
04. ...In That Quiet Earth
05. Afterglow
06. Unquiet Slumbers For The Sleepers...
07. All In A Mouse's Night
08. Your Own Special Way
09. Wot Gorilla?

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...And Then There Were Three...
01. Down And Out
02. Burning Rope
03. Deep In The Motherlode
04. The Lady Lies
05. Undertow
06. Ballad Of Big
07. Follow You Follow Me
08. Many Too Many
09. Say It's Alright Joe
10. Scenes From A Night's Dream
11. Snowbound

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Duke
01. Behind The Lines
02. Duke's Travels
03. Duchess
04. Turn It On Again
05. Duke's End
06. Man Of Our Times
07. Please Don't Ask
08. Heathaze
09. Cul-de-sac
10. Alone Tonight
11. Misunderstanding
12. Guide Vocal

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Abacab
01. Dodo/Lurker
02. Abacab
03. Keep It Dark
04. Me And Sarah Jane
05. No Reply At All
06. Man On The Corner
07. Like It Or Not
08. Another Record
09. Who Dunnit?

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Genesis
01. Mama
       Home By The Sea
03. Second Home By The Sea
04. Silver Rainbow
05. That's All
06. It's Gonna Get Better
07. Illegal Alien
08. Taking It All Too Hard
09. Just A Job To Do
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Invisible Touch
01. Tonight, Tonight, Tonight
02. Domino
03. The Brazilian
04. Throwing It All Away
05. Land Of Confusion
06. Invisible Touch
07. In Too Deep
08. Anything She Does

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We Can't Dance
01. Fading Lights
02. Driving The Last Spike
03. No Son Of Mine
04. Jesus He Knows Me
05. Dreaming While You Sleep
06. Living Forever
07. I Can't Dance
08. Way Of The World
09. Never A Time
10. Tell Me Why
11. Hold On My Heart
12. Since I Lost You

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...Calling All Stations...
01. The Dividing Line
02. There Must Be Some Other Way
03. Calling All Stations
04. One Man's Fool
05. Congo
06. Not About Us
07. Alien Afternoon
08. If That's What You Need
09. Shipwrecked
10. Uncertain Weather
11. Small Talk

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Consolation
The Return Of The Giant Hogweed
Dancing With The Moonlit Knight
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
04. Duchess
05. Second Home By The Sea
06. Blood On The Rooftops
07. Entangled
08. No Son Of Mine
09. Deep In The Motherlode
10. Keep It Daek
11. Counting Out Time
       The Brazilian
13. Can-Utility And The Coastliners
14. White Mountain
15. Calling All Stations
16. Fireside Song
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Finals
Where The Sour Turns To Sweet
In The Beginning
The Knife
Stagnation
The Musical Box
The Fountain Of Salmacis
Supper's Ready
Watcher Of The Skies
The Cinema Show
Firth Of Fifth
In The Cage
The Colony Of Slippermen
Back In N.Y.C.
The Carpet Crawlers
Dance On A Volcano
Squonk
One For The Vine
Eleventh Earl Of Mar
Down And Out
Burning Rope
Behind The Lines
Duke's Travels
Dodo/Lurker
Abacab
Mama
Home By The Sea
Tonight, Tonight, Tonight
Domino
Fading Lights
Driving The Last Spike
The Dividing Line
There Must Be Some Other Way
The Return Of The Giant Hogweed
Dancing With The Moonlit Knight
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway

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Re: Genesis Survivor 2022 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2022, 03:48:31 PM »
In order to expedite the Survivor a bit (so it doesn't take a whole year), I'm probably going to start off running 4 or 5 albums concurrently. By my calculations, doing 4 albums concurrently will take 39 rounds, or 78 days, or just over 11 weeks/almost three months. After that, the longest part will be the Consolation Rounds (15 total for 16 songs), and the Finals (34 total for 35 songs), which would take up 14 weeks, or 2.5 months (if done as two-day rounds each).

Is running four album survivors at once a bit hectic? Would you all be cool with that and not find it confusing, or should we take it nice a slow and do my usual 2 (which would almost double the length of time for the main album survivors from 11 weeks to nearly 20). I'd like to run more than 2 albums at a time, but I don't want it to be confusing for everyone participating. At any rate, each round update will happen every two days as usual, barring any unfortunate circumstances or if I forget to update.

Also, during the Consolation and Finals rounds, I'll probably also run a Studio Albums Survivor, and a Live Albums Survivor as well, just to fill in the time a bit more. I will also not be doing any tie-breakers unless it is to determine the Consolation/Final songs on any given album. Hopefully if there are a good number of voters participating, there might not be any ties.

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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2022, 01:22:12 AM »
Four albums at once? Give me a challenge.  ;) :lol

You might wanna reconsider doing the 80s Genesis stuff, though. I don't think there are that many votes to contribute to the polls after Wind and wuthering.

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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2022, 04:51:39 AM »
You might wanna reconsider doing the 80s Genesis stuff, though. I don't think there are that many votes to contribute to the polls after Wind and wuthering.

Yeah my interest in them wanes off after Duke, I'll be focusing on the 70s stuff.
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2022, 05:01:09 AM »
No way, the 80's stuff is my favorite. I'm going to be useless on FGTR though as I've never heard it.

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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2022, 06:54:44 AM »
No issues for me for multiple albums at the same time

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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2022, 11:11:42 AM »
Going to have to find a way to listen to the first album, but Iím totally fine with doing multiple albums.  Iím very familiar with the rest of the catalog.
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2022, 08:08:20 AM »
Excited for this! I got nothing on the 1st album, but love both the Peter and Phil eras.

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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2022, 05:46:38 PM »
My body is ready. I will be tapping out after Wind and Wuthering though.

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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2022, 06:19:14 PM »
Cool!  I don't know the first couple albums or the last one, but this'll be nice.

I may run something with Fates Warning at the same time, but I don't think it'll detract.
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2022, 06:45:44 PM »
Thanks for the replies guys! I'm looking forward to starting this one up. I'll be posting up the first rounds for the first four albums later tonight. As usual, they will be TWO-DAY rounds.

Another note I forgot to bring up - with TLLDOB, I will do multi-vote/multi-song elimination rounds to start, and when we get to about half of the album's songs, we'll taper down to one vote per person/one song out per round. I'm not sure if I'll start with voting for 4 songs or 5 in the first round yet, but it'll be around there.

And as stated before, there will NOT be any tie-breakers UNLESS it is to determine any songs going to Consolation or Finals.

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Re: Genesis Survivor 2022 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2022, 08:50:17 PM »
Trespass' Final Round's Results:
Stagnation 9 (90%)
The Knife 1 (10%)
Total Members Voted: 10

01. The Knife
02. Stagnation
03. White Mountain
04. Looking For Someone
05. Dusk
06. Visions Of Angels

For comparison, these were the results from a decade back:
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1. The Knife
2. Looking For Someone
3. Stagnation
4. Visions Of Angels
5. White Mountain
6. Dusk

Other than "The Knife", every song got shuffled around! Did not expect that but given how some fans feel about this album, it doesn't surprise me too much.

Foxtrot's Final Round's Results:
Watcher Of The Skies 9 (90%)
Supper's Ready 1 (10%)
Total Members Voted: 10

01. Supper's Ready
02. Watcher Of The Skies
03. Can-Utility And The Coastliners
04. Get'Em Out By Friday
05. Time Table
06. Horizons

 And here are the 2012 Survivor results:
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1. Supper's Ready
2. Watcher Of The Skies
3. Can-Utility And The Coastliners
4. Get'Em Out By Friday
5. Time Table
6. Horizons

Unlike Trespass, these results ended up being exactly the same, which isn't at all surprising to me.

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Re: Genesis Survivor 2022 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2022, 10:00:27 PM »
Nursery Cryme's Final Round's Results:
The Musical Box 4 (26.7%)
The Fountain Of Salmacis 11 (73.3%)
Total Members Voted: 15

01. The Musical Box
02. The Fountain Of Salmacis
03. The Return Of The Giant Hogweed
04. Seven Stones
05. Harold The Barrel
06. For Absent Friends
07. Harlequin

And here are the results from 2012 for comparison:
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1. The Musical Box
2. The Return Of The Giant Hogweed
3. The Fountain Of Salmacis
4. Harold The Barrel
5. Harlequin
6. Seven Stones
7. For Absent Friends

Looks like "Seven Stones" fared a bit better this time, but "Hogweed" wasn't so lucky, as it goes to Consolation Rounds this time.

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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2022, 08:47:29 PM »
From Genesis To Revelation's Final Round's Results:
Where The Sour Turns To Sweet 1 (16.7%)
In The Beginning 5 (83.3%)
Total Members Voted: 6

01. Where The Sour Turns To Sweet
02. In The Beginning
03. Fireside Song
04. The Serpent
05. In The Wilderness
06. The Conqueror
07. In Hiding
       One Day
09. Window
       In Limbo
11. Am I Very Wrong?
       The Silent Sun
13. A Place To Call My Own

Here are the 2012 results for comparison:

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1. Where The Sour Turns To Sweet
 2. In The Beginning
 3. The Conqueror
 4. The Silent Sun
 5. One Day
 6. The Serpent
 7. In Limbo
 8. In Hiding
     A Place To Call My Own
10. Am I Very Wrong?
11. In The Wilderness
12. Fireside Song
13. Window

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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2022, 08:21:38 PM »
Selling England By The Pound's Final Round's Results:
Firth Of Fifth 7 (63.6%)
The Cinema Show 4 (36.4%)
Total Members Voted: 11

01. The Cinema Show
02. Firth Of Fifth
03. Dancing With The Moonlit Knight
04. The Battle Of Epping Forest
05. I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)
06. After The Ordeal
07. More Fool Me
08. Aisle Of Plenty

And here's the 2012 results:
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1. Firth Of Fifth
2. The Cinema Show
3. Dancing With The Moonlit Knight
4. I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)
5. The Battle Of Epping Forest
6. After The Ordeal
7. More Fool Me
8. Aisle Of Plenty

Very similar results again, with just 4th and 5th places swapped!

A Trick Of The Tail's Final Round's Results:
Dance On A Volcano 6 (50%)
Squonk 6 (50%)
Total Members Voted: 12

01. Dance On A Volcano
       Squonk
03. Entangled
04. Mad Man Moon
05. A Trick Of The Tail
06. Ripples...
07. Robbery, Assault And Battery
08. Los Endos

Well, it ended in a tie but both go to the Finals anyway, so no matter. And from 2012, those results for comparison:

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1. Dance On A Volcano
2. Entangled
3. Ripples...
4. Mad Man Moon
5. A Trick Of The Tail
6. Los Endos
7. Squonk
8. Robbery, Assault And Battery

Looks like "Squonk" did a lot better for itself this time around, going from 7th to tied for 1st! Meanwhile, both "Los Endos" and "Ripples..." fared a bit worse. Only DOAV, MMM, and the title track retained their positions!

And so we move forward with the first rounds of ATTWT and Duke! We've passed the halfway point of the bandís discography!

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Re: Genesis Survivor 2022 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2022, 07:55:36 PM »
Wind & Wuthering's Final Round's Results:
Eleventh Earl Of Mar 10 (83.3%)
One For The Vine 2 (16.7%)
Total Members Voted: 12

01. One For The Vine
02. Eleventh Earl Of Mar
03. Blood On The Rooftops
04. ...In That Quiet Earth
05. Afterglow
06. Unquiet Slumbers For The Sleepers...
07. All In A Mouse's Night
08. Your Own Special Way
09. Wot Gorilla?

OFTV takes first place but both it and EEOM go to the Finals. Here's the results from 2012 for comparison:

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1. One For The Vine
2. Eleventh Earl Of Mar
3. Blood On The Rooftops
4. Afterglow
5. ...In That Quiet Earth
6. All In A Mouse's Night
7. Unquiet Slumber For The Sleepers...
8. Wot Gorilla?
9. Your Own Special Way


The Top three remained the same, 4th and 5th swapped places, and 6th and 7th places swapped, as did the bottom two. Seems fairly consistent!

The final round for The Lamb is up, as are the continuing rounds for ATTWT and Duke! The first rounds for Abacab and the self-titled have also gone up, so we are moving ahead at full speed!

Barring any major ties/tie-breakers, we will begin the Consolation Rounds in a little over a month, which will run for about a month itself! Then the Finals should be on track to begin in mid-December!

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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2022, 10:36:07 AM »
Still super salty about Los Endos coming in last on A Trick of the Tail.  Should've been top 3!
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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2022, 03:06:45 AM »

The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway's Final Round's Results:
In The Cage 1 (8.3%)
The Colony Of Slippermen 11 (91.7%)
Total Members Voted: 12

01. In The Cage
02. The Colony Of Slippermen
03. Back In N.Y.C.
      The Carpet Crawlers
05. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
06. Counting Out Time
07. The Lamia
08. Lilywhite Lilith
09. Fly On A Windshield
10. it.
11. Anyway
12. Cuckoo Cocoon
      The Chamber Of 32 Doors
14. Here Comes The Supernatural Anaesthetist
15. Broadway Melody Of 1974
      Hairless Heart
      The Light Lies Down On Broadway
18. Riding The Scree
19. The Grand Parade Of Lifeless Packaging
      The Waiting Room
      In The Rapids
22. Silent Sorrow In Empty Boats
23. Ravine

And for comparison, the 2012 Results:

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  1. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
      Fly On A Windshield
      In The Cage
      Back In NYC
  5. The Chamber Of 32 Doors
  6. The Carpet Crawlers
  7. Lillywhite Lilith
  8. Cuckoo Cocoon
  9. Counting Out Time
      Anyway
11. Broadway Melody of 1974
      The Colony Of Slippermen
13. The Grand Parade Of Lifeless Packaging
      The Light Lies Down On Broadway
15. The Lamia
      Riding The Scree
17. Hairless Heart
18. In The Rapids
      it.
20. Here Comes The Supernatural Anesthetist
21. Silent Sorrow In Empty Boats
22. The Waiting Room
      Ravine


...And Then There Were Three...'s Final Round's Results:
Down And Out 2 (25%)
Burning Rope 6 (75%)
Total Members Voted: 8

01. Down And Out
02. Burning Rope
03. Deep In The Motherlode
04. The Lady Lies
05. Undertow
06. Ballad Of Big
07. Follow You Follow Me
08. Many Too Many
09. Say It's Alright Joe
10. Scenes From A Night's Dream
11. Snowbound

DAO takes the top spot, but it and BR go to the Finals while DITM goes to Consolation. Here are the 2012 results for comparison:

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1. Burning Rope
2. Down And Out
3. Undertow
4. The Lady Lies
5. Deep In The Motherlode
6. Many Too Many
7. Follow You Follow Me
8. Ballad Of Big
9. Snowbound
10. Scenes From A Night's Dream
11. Say It's Alright Joe

Looks like the top 5 remained the same, if shuffled around a bit, but otherwise things have moved around quite a bit.

We're in the home stretch now with just 2 more studio album survivors to start this week. The Consolation Rounds should begin in a few weeks and if things go well, this will be wrapped up by mid-February! Thanks again to everyone who has been participating so far!

-Marc.
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Re: Genesis Survivor 2022 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2022, 07:16:57 PM »
Duke's Final Round's Results:
Behind The Lines 3 (21.4%)
Duke's Travels 11 (78.6%)
Total Members Voted: 14

01. Behind The Lines
02. Duke's Travels
03. Duchess
04. Turn It On Again
05. Duke's End
06. Man Of Our Times
07. Please Don't Ask
08. Heathaze
09. Cul-de-sac
10. Alone Tonight
11. Misunderstanding
12. Guide Vocal

BTL takes the top spot but both it and DT go to the Finals. Here's the results from the 2012 Survivor for comparison:
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1. Behind The Lines
2. Duke's Travels
3. Heathaze
4. Duke's End
5. Guide Vocal
6. Turn It On Again
7. Duchess
8. Cul-De-Sac
9. Man Of Our Times
10. Please Don't Ask
11. Alone Tonight
12. Misunderstanding

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Re: Genesis Survivor 2022 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2022, 11:38:08 AM »
Abacab's Final Round's Results:
Abacab 6 (60%)
Dodo/Lurker 4 (40%)
Total Members Voted: 10

01. Dodo/Lurker
02. Abacab
03. Keep It Dark
04. Me And Sarah Jane
05. No Reply At All
06. Man On The Corner
07. Like It Or Not
08. Another Record
09. Who Dunnit?

Here are the 2012 results for comparison:

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1. Dodo/Lurker
2. Abacab
3. Me And Sarah Jane
4. Keep It Dark
5. Man On The Corner
6. Like It Or Not
7. No Reply At All
8. Another Record
9. Who Dunnit?

Genesis's Final Round's Results:
Mama 6 (50%)
Home By The Sea 6 (50%)
Total Members Voted: 12

01. Mama
       Home By The Sea
03. Second Home By The Sea
04. Silver Rainbow
05. That's All
06. It's Gonna Get Better
07. Illegal Alien
08. Taking It All Too Hard
09. Just A Job To Do

And here are the results of this album survivor from 2012:

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1. Home By The Sea
2. Mama
3. Second Home By The Sea
4. Just A Job To Do
5. That's All
6. Silver Rainbow
7. It's Gonna Get Better
8. Taking It All Too Hard
9. Illegal Alien

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Re: Genesis Survivor 2022 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2022, 08:19:52 AM »
Invisible Touch's Final Round's Results:
Tonight, Tonight, Tonight 5 (45.5%)
Domino 6 (54.5%)
Total Members Voted: 11

01. Tonight, Tonight, Tonight
02. Domino
03. The Brazilian
04. Throwing It All Away
05. Land Of Confusion
06. Invisible Touch
07. In Too Deep
08. Anything She Does

And the results from 2012 for comparison:
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1. Land Of Confusion
2. Domino
3. Tonight, Tonight, Tonight
4. Throwing It All Away
5. The Brazilian
6. Anything She Does
7. In Too Deep
8. Invisible Touch

Bottom three remained in the bottom three but the top five shuffled quite a bit with LOC dropping from 1st last time to fifth this time around!

Later tonight will be the final rounds for WCD and CAS, as well as the first round for the Consolation!

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Re: Genesis Survivor 2022 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2022, 11:29:32 AM »
Are you planning to run polls for any of the b-sides?

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Re: Genesis Survivor 2022 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2022, 02:07:55 PM »
Are you planning to run polls for any of the b-sides?

Each of the band's main 15 albums will be represented, and then Consolation Rounds for all the Third Place songs in the album survivors (5th and 6th for The Lamb). The top two in each of the 15 albums will advance to the Finals (top four for The Lamb), and the top three in the Consolation will also advance to the Finals, for a total of 35 songs in the Finals!

This time I've decided to forgo the B-Sides, Non-Album songs, and bonus tracks, just to streamline the survivor a bit more and not drag it out a bit with songs that most fans won't be familiar with.

Considering how few fans would be voting in them, it felt inconsequential to have any B-Sides in the survivor this year. No one seemed to be missing them when I first proposed running this again and I don't think that feeling has changed. I know there are some pretty good B-Sides/Non-Album Tracks, but when I ran this survivor last, I had 36 B-Sides split across three sets (Gabriel-Era, Collins-Era, and Wilson-Era), but I remember only a handful of people voted in those rounds compared to the main albums.

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Re: Genesis Survivor 2022 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2022, 02:50:04 PM »
Are you planning to run polls for any of the b-sides?

Each of the band's main 15 albums will be represented, and then Consolation Rounds for all the Third Place songs in the album survivors (5th and 6th for The Lamb). The top two in each of the 15 albums will advance to the Finals (top four for The Lamb), and the top three in the Consolation will also advance to the Finals, for a total of 35 songs in the Finals!

This time I've decided to forgo the B-Sides, Non-Album songs, and bonus tracks, just to streamline the survivor a bit more and not drag it out a bit with songs that most fans won't be familiar with.

Considering how few fans would be voting in them, it felt inconsequential to have any B-Sides in the survivor this year. No one seemed to be missing them when I first proposed running this again and I don't think that feeling has changed. I know there are some pretty good B-Sides/Non-Album Tracks, but when I ran this survivor last, I had 36 B-Sides split across three sets (Gabriel-Era, Collins-Era, and Wilson-Era), but I remember only a handful of people voted in those rounds compared to the main albums.

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Ah, gotcha. Definitely some B-sides I would rank above many of the album tracks, but then also a bunch Iím sure none of us are too passionate about.

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Re: Genesis Survivor 2022 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2022, 06:19:29 PM »
We Can't Dance's Final Round's Results:
Driving The Last Spike 10 (90.9%)
Fading Lights 1 (9.1%)
Total Members Voted: 11

01. Fading Lights
02. Driving The Last Spike
03. No Son Of Mine
04. Jesus He Knows Me
05. Dreaming While You Sleep
06. Living Forever
07. I Can't Dance
08. Way Of The World
09. Never A Time
10. Tell Me Why
11. Hold On My Heart
12. Since I Lost You

The 2012 results:
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1. Driving The Last Spike
2. Fading Lights
3. No Son Of Mine
4. Dreaming While You Sleep
5. I Can't Dance
6. Jesus He Knows Me
7. Living Forever
8. Way Of The World
9. Never A Time
10. Hold On My Heart
      Since I Lost You
12. Tell Me Why

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...Calling All Stations...'s Final Round's Results:
The Dividing Line 2 (28.6%)
There Must Be Some Other Way 5 (71.4%)
Total Members Voted: 7

01. The Dividing Line
02. There Must Be Some Other Way
03. Calling All Stations
04. One Man's Fool
05. Congo
06. Not About Us
07. Alien Afternoon
08. If That's What You Need
09. Shipwrecked
10. Uncertain Weather
11. Small Talk

And the 2012 results of CAS:

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1. The Dividing Line
2. One Man's Fool
3. Calling All Stations
4. Alien Afternoon
5. There Must Be Some Other Way
6. Shipwrecked
7. Not About Us
8. Congo
9. If That's What You Need
10. Uncertain Weather
11. Small Talk

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