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Paul Newman = God
« on: August 20, 2022, 11:26:17 AM »
Ok, for those who didn't see my post in the "What Shows Are You Currently Watching?" thread, I've started watching the entire filmography of Paul Newman.  So I thought I'd make a post to share my observations as I go along.  And it is more than just about PN, but about movies over the decades, co-stars, directors, and any other interesting factoids that may come up along the way.  Please feel free to participate.  I learn so much more about subjects I am interested in when others share their experiences as well.  I realize many of you may be too young to really have known or enjoyed PN movies.  Hopefully this thread might inspire some of you along the way.

So the first film was not the one I originally thought it would be (thanks IMDB for getting it wrong).  PN's first film was The Silver Chalice (1954).  And it very much had to me the feeling of an original Star Trek episode "Plato's Stepchildren" mixed with a little "The Ten Commandments" which came out in 1956.  PN reportedly hated his performance so much that when it was broadcast on television in 1966, he took out an ad asking people not to watch it.  This of course only caused more people to watch it.  LoL

Co-stars include Jack Palance, Lorne Green, EG Marshall, a very young Natalie Wood, and Strother Douglas Martin Jr (who went on to work many times with PN, most notably in Cool Hand Luke) and an uncredited cameo from young hunky Steven McQueen!

The story line is that Basil (PN) is an artist/sculptor who is sold by his father into Greek aristocracy and then sold into slavery when the adopted father dies.  He is eventually tasked with making the silver chalice for the Holy Grail.  There are sword battles and heaving breasts and the like but generally it feels campy and over-acted.  I did appreciate the visual spectacle of it - the set designs were pretty impressive...almost bordering on what looked like computer generated at times even.

Newman won a Golden Globe for his performance in the "Most Promising Newcomer" category.  I can't say it was all that great of a performance comparatively but I also don't see why he would be ashamed of it either.  There was a scene that stood out to me with Helena (Virginia Mayo) going up and down the line of handsome Greeks that reminded me so much of the infamous Madeline Kahn's scene in History of the World Part 1 playing Empress Nympho.  I just had to laugh and then wonder if Mel Brooks borrowed a little from this movie for that scene where she is choosing her escorts. 

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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2022, 01:26:16 PM »
I've never seen the film you're referring to, but maybe I should now.

I would put The Color of Money, Slapshot, The Sting and Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid among my favorites of his.

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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2022, 02:40:19 PM »
Paul Newman was to the 60s what Brando was to the 50s; he simply evolved the entire art form of motion picture acting, bringing it to new artistic heights of performance and realism. So much so that no one could really touch him at that time; he was THAT far ahead of the pack, ability-wise. His performances in the Hustler and Hud are absolutely searing, and hold up even today.

The fact that he was an extraordinarily beautiful man (no homo) doesn’t hurt, either.

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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2022, 03:16:17 PM »
Well he sure makes a mean spaghetti sauce!  💪
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2022, 04:31:03 PM »
I would also add he seemed to age on screen just about as well as any actor I can think of, off the top of my head. I said elsewhere my favorite performance of his might be Nobody's Fool (quick math, he was 69). Next might be Road to Perdition (77). Seeing him age was natural; his portraying older men didn't seem awkward or jarring. It was just... him, playing the right role at the right age at the right time.
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2022, 08:29:36 PM »
Big admirer of his acting. He and Redford in Butch Cassidy = solid gold. The Sting as well. Each are quite high on many top movies of all time lists. Their chemistry was palpable/undeniable.

Ran across a movie called Hemingway's Adventure of a Young Man...made in 1962. He won a Golden Globe for Best Supporting Actor....portraying a boxer who had taken too many shots to the head. When his character first showed up in the film, I didn't even know it was him for quite awhile.  :corn

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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2022, 09:57:00 AM »
We will get to all of the greats - don't worry.   :heart

So last night on tap was PN's 2nd film (interestingly filmed prior to The Silver Chalice but released afterward), Somebody Up There Likes Me (1956).  The film was based on the autobiography of boxer, Rocky Graziano, who won the World Middleweight Championship in 1947 at age 28.  Generally, boxing movies are not my favorite but I have to say, I thoroughly enjoyed this film.  Originally the part of Rocky was to be played by James Dean who died before filming.  Fantastic cast - Sal Mineo, Pier Angeli, Robert Loggia (what a hottie), and another cameo by Steve McQueen!

It was directed by Robert Wise who also directed West Side Story (1961) and it was quite easy to see how Wise's techniques were honed on this film and then repurposed for WSS.  Numerous scenes look like they were lifted out and placed into WSS, even dialogue at times.  It was filmed in black and white, which surprised me a little as The Silver Chalice had been in color.  But the B&W really added to the brooding and angry feel of PN's Rocky and also of the numerous street scenes in Brooklyn, NY circa 1940s.  It won the Oscar for best cinematography and best art direction.

It is easy to see why this movie made PN a star.  He did a fine job though I didn't believe for one second he was Italian, especially when acting along side of Rocky's father, played by Harold J. Stone.  Newman's Rocky heralds an early version of Luke Jackson (Cool Hand Luke) and his scenes on the chain gang are strikingly similar.  Personally, I found some of Newman's scenes over-acted, like he was over-compensating for the fact that he wasn't Italian enough.  But there were moments when his talent shined through.  Not knowing much about boxing, I didn't feel like his physique seemed developed enough to be a middleweight boxer.  Seeing photos of the real Graziano shows he had much more muscle mass.  I can't help but think if this movie were made just a decade or two later, Newman would've had to train and bulk up more for the role.

The story is very much the misunderstood bad boy turns to a life of crime after years of being humiliated and abused by his father.  Hits rock bottom and discovers he's a scrapper who can make money with his fists and winds up winning the biggest prize of all.  Wise's editing of the fights themselves are brilliant.  I could see where Scorsese's Raging Bull and the Rocky Balboa series literally lifted frames from Wise which I choose to see more of a homage than a theft.  LoL

If you like fight films and you haven't seen this one, I highly recommend it.

Edit to add - I have some vague nostalgia around memories of my grandparents getting very excited about major fights.  There were a few scenes where people gathered around their radios listening to the fights with such intensity.  And when Graziano wins, the people all stream out into the streets to celebrate together.  It brought up inside of me the feeling of both awe and then loss that something like a local boy doing good can bring together a community like that.  Where did that all go?

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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2022, 12:35:20 PM »


 Not knowing much about boxing, I didn't feel like his physique seemed developed enough to be a middleweight boxer.  Seeing photos of the real Graziano shows he had much more muscle mass.  I can't help but think if this movie were made just a decade or two later, Newman would've had to train and bulk up more for the role.



I agree Newman did not fit the part physically. But not SO far that it detracted greatly from the film....as it is more about the portrayal and the acting at that point.

If you look at Rocky for a comparison....similar thing. Rocky in real life was TRUE Heavyweight boxer Chuck Wepner.....who was 6' 5" and around 240 pounds. Stallone was 5' 10" and 190 pounds.

Interesting to note, though..... Denzel Washington in Hurricane was quite a bit bigger than Rubin Carter.

In Raging Bull, however....Goldilocks! DeNiro was almost exactly the same size as Jake LaMotta. And he definitely had the muscle definition as well. So score one for Scorcese (no pun intended) there....he chose the actor who had the right size....and the acting chops.   




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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2022, 09:40:13 AM »
Thanks for that info, CCD!  I agree that it was no detraction from the film, just musing that once DeNiro went all out for Raging Bull (with his weight fluctuation) that PN may have felt the need to do something similar with regard to his physique.

I had also forgotten about the movie Hurricane.  I'm fairly certain I saw that movie but honestly cannot recall much about it.  Love Denzel's acting.  Might have to give that one another spin.

IIRC Russell Crowe also had a fight movie....don't think I ever saw that one.
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2022, 09:56:17 AM »


 Not knowing much about boxing, I didn't feel like his physique seemed developed enough to be a middleweight boxer.  Seeing photos of the real Graziano shows he had much more muscle mass.  I can't help but think if this movie were made just a decade or two later, Newman would've had to train and bulk up more for the role.



I agree Newman did not fit the part physically. But not SO far that it detracted greatly from the film....as it is more about the portrayal and the acting at that point.

If you look at Rocky for a comparison....similar thing. Rocky in real life was TRUE Heavyweight boxer Chuck Wepner.....who was 6' 5" and around 240 pounds. Stallone was 5' 10" and 190 pounds.

Interesting to note, though..... Denzel Washington in Hurricane was quite a bit bigger than Rubin Carter.

In Raging Bull, however....Goldilocks! DeNiro was almost exactly the same size as Jake LaMotta. And he definitely had the muscle definition as well. So score one for Scorcese (no pun intended) there....he chose the actor who had the right size....and the acting chops.

I just googled Sly, and yes, they said he is 5'10", but there are pictures where he looks anywhere from 5'6" to 6'0" depending who is around him.  I always thought he was really short.

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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2022, 10:06:06 AM »
Had a bit of a delay continuing the filmography due to vacation but that ended last night with PN's The Rack (1956) filmed back to back with Somebody Up There Likes Me.  This tale was based on play written for television by Rod Serling.  Serling was writer/producer/host of The Twilight Zone (59-64).  The movie definitely had a play feel to it.  Directed by Arnold Lavin who later went on to direct shows for television series The Rockford Files, Mannix, Hill Street Blues, etc.

The story is about a Korean POW, Capt Ed Hall Jr. (PN) returning home to his father, a retired colonel played by Walter Pidgeon.  Once back home Hall is prosecuted for aiding and abetting the enemy while held in the prisoner camp for 2 years.  He was mentally but not physically tortured.  Prosecution witnesses from the camp, including a nice performance by Lee Marvin, testified to brutal physical torture while Hall - a decorated soldier who previously received a medal of valor - was kept in isolation and bombarded with mental abuse and ultimately broke upon learning of the death of his brother who was killed in action.  I'm not sure, but the film may be one of the first ones that dealt with the subject of mental torture techniques like isolation and deprivation and touches slightly on the fall out we now think of as PTSD.  Newman does a compelling job of telling the court about his torture and how his Chinese captors learned of what precisely it took to get him to cooperate with them.

The dialogue is sharp and smart.  I easily picked up on how the writing would've been well served in a play format.  Newman is definitely honing his acting chops here and while ultimately the film was not considered successful, I really rather enjoyed it.  Great supporting cast also includes the beautiful Anne Francis and a young Cloris Leachman.


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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2022, 05:31:12 AM »


IIRC Russell Crowe also had a fight movie....don't think I ever saw that one.

Cinderella Man. Excellent movie! Renee Zellweger, Paul Giamatti. Directed by Ron Howard.

Yes, you need to see it.

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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2022, 09:50:13 AM »
The Helen Morgan Story (1957)

This review will be short.  I've seen a lot of PN films but this was my first time seeing this one.  This is now my least favorite PN film (so far).   :laugh:

But not because of PN.  It's an old-timey biopic about a real life torch singer/actress from Illinois in the 1920s who went on to garner some success on broadway and The Ziegfeld Follies then lost it all due to alcoholism and died of cirrhosis of the liver at age 41.  In essence it is a musical though Newman doesn't sing anything.  It is mainly Helen Morgan's story and PN is more in a supporting role.  The screenplay is quite formulaic though Newman's role is not based on real life and is added for dramatic effect.  He plays Morgan's long term love interest, Larry Maddux, the eternal bad boy who is more interested in rum running and making money in the seedier parts of speakeasies than he is being a boyfriend.  A real love em and leave em type that crushes Helen's heart and gives her plenty of torch songs for her repertoire.  The whole thing has a shmaltzy/soap opera feel to it.  I cannot recommend it much beyond the nostalgia surrounding the costumes and set designs of the 20s and the historical references to roaring 20s and shattering crash of the Great Depression.

I will say this is the first time I've ever seen actress Ann Blyth who plays Morgan in anything.  She didn't seem very convincing IMO and I couldn't help feel as though the role was meant for Judy Garland.  Today I was reading up on the film and Ms. Blyth and discovered that the producers originally wanted Doris Day (!) to play the part but she turned it down so as not to tarnish her good girl image.  Blyth had a fairly robust career in film and television and then quit everything to raise a family.  She is remarkably still alive at age 94.  I was going to give her props for her singing voice - apparently the soundtrack did better with sales than the movie - but come to find out that her vocals were dubbed.

Newman is definitely easy on the eyes in this one - the other redeeming factor for me haha - and one can see the beginnings in this film of his more notorious roles yet to come in The Hustler, Hud, and The Sting.

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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2022, 06:21:45 AM »


I will say this is the first time I've ever seen actress Ann Blyth who plays Morgan in anything.  She didn't seem very convincing IMO and I couldn't help feel as though the role was meant for Judy Garland.  Today I was reading up on the film and Ms. Blyth and discovered that the producers originally wanted Doris Day (!) to play the part but she turned it down so as not to tarnish her good girl image.  Blyth had a fairly robust career in film and television and then quit everything to raise a family.  She is remarkably still alive at age 94.  I was going to give her props for her singing voice - apparently the soundtrack did better with sales than the movie - but come to find out that her vocals were dubbed.



I actually remembered her from a couple of Wagon Train episodes (Western tv show from the 50's)....she had a certain kind of dignified demeanor that resonated. Yes, Garland would have been great. I could also see her daughter, Liza.....doing a remake in the 70's.

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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2022, 11:29:15 AM »


I will say this is the first time I've ever seen actress Ann Blyth who plays Morgan in anything.  She didn't seem very convincing IMO and I couldn't help feel as though the role was meant for Judy Garland.  Today I was reading up on the film and Ms. Blyth and discovered that the producers originally wanted Doris Day (!) to play the part but she turned it down so as not to tarnish her good girl image.  Blyth had a fairly robust career in film and television and then quit everything to raise a family.  She is remarkably still alive at age 94.  I was going to give her props for her singing voice - apparently the soundtrack did better with sales than the movie - but come to find out that her vocals were dubbed.



I actually remembered her from a couple of Wagon Train episodes (Western tv show from the 50's)....she had a certain kind of dignified demeanor that resonated. Yes, Garland would have been great. I could also see her daughter, Liza.....doing a remake in the 70's.

I could definitely see Liza in that role.


Next up is Until They Sail (1957).  The film is black and white and set during WWII in New Zealand.  Another film directed by Robert Wise, though instead of Newman being the lead, he is very much a supporting actor here.  The film is based on a James A. Michener story and revolves around 4 sisters played by Joan Fontaine, Jean Simmons, Piper Laurie, and the debut of Sandra Dee (who won a Golden Globe for most promising newcomer).  The Leslie sisters live in Christchurch together after the death of their parents.  When WWII begin, most of the men in the country are shipped off leaving these 4 youngish women to bemoan a life without men to court.  Simmons is the only one married and over the course of the war, she becomes widowed and they also lose a brother.  As the American marines arrive after the attack on Pearl Harbor, suddenly the prospect for finding male companionship looks up and eventually the oldest sister (Fontaine) falls for an American Captain but before they can wed, the Marines must investigate her to deem her fit for immigration to the US.  Enter PN's role as the investigator.  Interesting side note - Paul Newman served in WWII in the Pacific Theater.  Initially he trained to be a pilot but had to drop out due to his colorblindness.

Newman plays Capt. Jack Harding, a divorced man with a drinking problem and a very pessimistic outlook on the marriages he must investigate for the military, which he sees as based on loneliness and not on love.  He is attracted to Barbara Leslie (Simmons) newly widowed, but holds back out of cynicism that relationships will ultimately work out.  He eventually is ordered to testify before a ?tribunal? around the murder of Barbara's sister (Laurie) at the hands of her POW husband when she tells him she wants a divorce.  The sister had been having many affairs while her abusive husband was in the POW camp, and this unseemly behavior was used to justify the murder.  This drives yet another wedge between Jack and Barbara. 

This film felt a lot to me like From Here to Eternity, in fact, Burt Lancaster was initially desired for one of the male leads.  Newman was fine though his role was smaller and it felt like at times he was just going through the motions.  I wonder what it must have been like working with Wise as the lead in Somebody Up There Likes Me to suddenly having a supporting role?  Hard to say - though I read he was paid a grand a week more than his typical salary while loaned out from his studio (Warner) to MGM.  Maybe this was more for the bucks than for the work.  Newman was divorcing his first wife - with whom he'd had 3 children during this period to be with Joanne Woodward whom he met in 1953.  It could be that doing supporting roles was all he was able to concentrate on during what must have been a difficult time for all involved.  Paul and Joanne's first film together, The Long, Hot Summer (1958) is also shooting during this time frame.  So it could be that his attention and passion was elsewhere.

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Re: Paul Newman = God
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2022, 05:33:31 AM »
Very cool of you to take the time to write these reviews.....esp. with the comprehensive precis for each.

You mentioned Lancaster, a great actor who is probably not that well known by most younger people. Like Newman, he could play lead or support....in a host of different roles.

Excellent observation about Newman being distracted by Joanne and their first movie. Probably just as well it was a supporting role, then. 

Keep them coming....enjoyable reading. If only I had the time to watch everything! 

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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2022, 10:37:07 AM »
I feel kinda dumb just echoing the love for The Sting and for Butch and Sundance, but I don't buy a lot of movies (actually none anymore) and those are two that I made sure to get.

But Paul Newman is amazing and I'll watch anything he's in.  Also, seemed like a really cool guy in person.  Newman's Own dressings were created to cash in on Newman's status as a movie star, but 100% of the profits always went to charities.  What a cool guy.

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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2022, 02:10:05 PM »
Very cool of you to take the time to write these reviews.....esp. with the comprehensive precis for each.

You mentioned Lancaster, a great actor who is probably not that well known by most younger people. Like Newman, he could play lead or support....in a host of different roles.

Excellent observation about Newman being distracted by Joanne and their first movie. Probably just as well it was a supporting role, then. 

Keep them coming....enjoyable reading. If only I had the time to watch everything!

Hey CCD, thanks for the kind words.  I wasn't sure if there was much (any?) interest in these little reviews but I'm enjoying watching the films and writing out my reaction.  So thanks everyone, for your indulgence and for your participation.  It makes it that much more fun for me.   :heart

I feel kinda dumb just echoing the love for The Sting and for Butch and Sundance, but I don't buy a lot of movies (actually none anymore) and those are two that I made sure to get.

But Paul Newman is amazing and I'll watch anything he's in.  Also, seemed like a really cool guy in person.  Newman's Own dressings were created to cash in on Newman's status as a movie star, but 100% of the profits always went to charities.  What a cool guy.

I agree with your observation.  I think he was one of the coolest, even though he was a flawed individual like we all are.  And we will definitely work our way up to his more popular movie roles.

In case you weren't sure what the germ of this thread was, it was after watching the wonderful series about him and his wife Joanne Woodward, The Last Movie Stars, on HBO Max.  I highly recommend it.  It is so well done.  Here is the trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzchdq2rYyw


Also, I may not get to the next selection this weekend as I have some other things going on but I'm hoping to get it in tomorrow.  We'll see how the day plays out.  But if not this weekend, next weekend for sure.
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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2022, 09:02:10 PM »
I'm reading these posts but not contributing much as I haven't seen these older films.
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« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2022, 04:08:13 PM »
I'm reading these posts but not contributing much as I haven't seen these older films.

Thanks, Chris.  I have not seen many of these early films before myself, so I totally understand.


Next up is The Long, Hot Summer (1858).  Paul Newman in the leading role of Ben Quick, opposite Orson Welles and Joanne Woodward (whom he married during production).  Supporting cast includes Lee Remick, Angela Lansbury, Anthony Franciosa, and Richard Anderson.  [aside] I wracked my brain trying to figure out where I'd seen Richard Anderson before - turns out he later went on to play Oscar Goldman - the boss of both the Six Million Dollar Man and the Bionic Woman.   :smiley:

TLHS is directed by Martin Ritt, who was blacklisted by the HUAC for being a suspected communist and supported himself for many years teaching acting at The Actors Studio, where PN and JW had been among his students.  Ritt famously was known at the 'The Orson Tamer' after having to put up with Welles behavior on the set where their frequent conflicts had become legendary.  Reportedly the entire cast was intimidated by Orson Welles.

The storyline is your typical American Southern Gothic story and based on a compilation of 3 Faulkner works.  The characters were inspired by Tennessee Williams' play, Cat On a Hot Tin Roof, which PN would go on to star in later this same year.  Ben Quick is a drifter with a past, suspected for burning down barns in the south.  He gets picked up hitchhiking by JW (Clara) and her sister-in-law, Remick (Eula) and taken to the town, Frenchman's Bend, Mississippi.  Clara's father (Welles) is Will Varner, who owns just about everything in the town.  While Will is away obtaining medical care, his son Jody, agrees to let Ben sharecrop on some land.  After Will returns he becomes incensed that his son hired a notorious barn burner, but after meeting Ben, Will starts to see himself in the ambitious man and begins to set him up to take over the family in place of his son.  This would be accomplished by marrying him off to Clara.

Clara has had a beau for many years and does not seem in any hurry to marry, yet by age 23 she is starting to be seen as a spinster.  When she catches wind of her father's plan, she presses her beau to marry her but he is apparently too much of a mama's boy (is this 1958 talk for being homosexual?) to agree to the engagement.  Clara is aware of Ben's reputation and while she is attracted to him, she is also repulsed by his past and his brazen attempts to win her over.  After her brother attempts to kill their father by burning him alive in the family barn (he ultimately lets him and the animals out), the smell of smoke causes Ben to confess to Clara that it was his own father who burned barnes in the south, not him.  This puts him in a different light in her eyes, and they predictably fall in love.

The production was shot on location in Louisiana and reportedly there were many delays due to weather.  The pastoral shots and sweeping mansions complete with black servants evoke almost a more modern Gone With the Wind quality (pre war, obvs) to the film.  Newman actually appears more muscular than he did in 'Somebody Up There Likes Me' and the use of color makes those baby blues impossible to ignore.  I thought there would be more chemistry between PN and JW, though her role is played pretty uptight and proper.  One thing I found very distracting was Orson Welles' make up.  At times he almost appeared to be in brown face (for lack of a better term) like they were covering up for some skin condition he had (alcoholism?). Hard to say.  I did read that he wore a prosthetic nose and due to the heat during filming, it would often slip out of place.

Overall, I enjoyed the film but it does not compare to Cat On a Hot Tin Roof (IMO).  Newman did win best actor at Cannes Film Festival for this role.

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« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2022, 05:51:19 PM »
Just a quick note - sorry for the pause.  It was my sister's birthday last weekend and it's been a bit rough but I'm getting through with help from my friends and family.  Hope to pick this back up tomorrow - at least that is the plan for now.

But I'd like to leave you all with this little article to enjoy.  I'm starting to think maybe I should've chosen Joanne's films instead...   :P

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In the memoir, he describes returning to their new Beverly Hills home one night to discover that she had fixed up a room off the master bedroom with a double bed she bought from a thrift shop and a fresh coat of paint. “'I call it the Fuck Hut,' she said proudly. It had been done with such affection and delight. Even if my kids came over, we'd go into the Fuck Hut several nights a week and just be intimate and noisy and ribald,” Newman wrote.

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« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2022, 01:04:08 PM »
And now for the fans of westerns....The Left Handed Gun (1958).  I'm not sure how many films have been made about Billy the Kid (50?), but this is one of them with PN in the lead role.  This black and white film was the first film directed by Arthur Penn who later went on to direct many great films, including Bonnie and Clyde (1967) and Little Big Man (1970).  Penn had directed other versions of this particular story written by Gore Vidal and starring PN for television back in 1955, which is where I believe Gore Vidal and PN began their decades long friendship and collaborations.  The movie was another production meant to star James Dean.  I'm starting to wonder how much credit PN's career can go to Dean's death at this point.

I won't go into detail about the story line here as it is fairly well known.  Newman did a fine job of acting though the real life Billy was killed at age 21 and Newman was in his early 30s here.  There were scenes meant to show Billy's immaturity - he was portrayed as an illiterate who was eager to learn to read.  And in one drunken scene enjoyed pantomiming directing a brass band while a penny music box plays Rally Round the Flag over and over.  There were also some overt homo-erotic scenes between Billy and his pals that I found quite surprising given the year the movie was released.  In my research after watching the film, I'm certainly not the only one who noticed it but this issue is never confirmed with regard to the film nor other historical writings about BtK.  This may be some of what Gore Vidal added in his version of events - hard to know for certain.  I was amused to learn that the real life Billy was thought to be a south paw due to one single photographic image that showed him with his holstered Colt revolver on his left side.  Historians did not take into account that the ferrotype process produces reversed images, and there still seems to be some historians who maintain that he was ambidextrous.

Westerns are not my personal favorite genre of movie so others here may have more to add.  I do see the groundwork being laid here for Butch Cassidy that won't be seen for another decade or so.  1958 was a busy year for PN both professionally and personally.  This role did not seem much of a stretch for him, though having played the role years before, he may have just felt more comfortable in the character. 

 
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Re: Paul Newman = God
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2022, 11:06:20 AM »
I watched this one last weekend - Cat On a Hot Tin Roof (1958).  This is arguably the film that got PN noticed.  It was the 3rd highest grossing release of the year, likely due to the fact that the other main lead and star was Elizabeth Taylor.  The film is based on 1955 Pulitzer-Price winning play by Tennessee Williams.  The film was directed by Richard Brooks and for those familiar with the play, the film was very much altered to omit the homosexual story line completely, much to the chagrin of Williams and Newman.  I can't help but wonder how much better the film could've been had the major factor of Brick's (PN) closeted homosexuality had been allowed to be shown, but alas the movie going public in 1958 would've likely required smelling salts at the notion.

The story encompasses a lot of ground - greed, self-delusion, sexism and sexual desire, deceit, and the looming reality of death.  Brick Politt (PN) a raging alcoholic, and his sexy wife, Maggie the Cat (Taylor), have returned to the Politt family's Mississippi plantation to celebrate the patriarch, Big Daddy's (Burl Ives) 65th birthday.  The film opens with a drunken Brick attempting to run hurdles at his old high school in the middle of the night.  In an attempt to relive his glory days, he face plants and brakes his leg.  Thus throughout the film, Brick is both apart from the festivities yet in the midst of the inner turmoil of the family dynamics.  You see, Big Daddy is dying.  He just had some tests and while the doctor is telling Big Daddy and Big Mama (Judith Anderson) that the tests were all good, the reality is the old man is going to die.  Soon.  And Brick and his brother are given the truth of the matter.

Now Brick's brother, Grooper, and his shrewish, fertile wife, Mae, and their brood of "no-neck monsters" have their sights set on the family wealth that is to be left to them upon Big Daddy's death.  Maggie also has her eyes on the money, but not just for her own selfish greed but also for her husband who wants nothing more than to leave the plantation and his family for good and drown his sorrows in a bottle.  She wants nothing more than to give Big Daddy grandchildren but you see that would mean actually having sex with her husband and he wants nothing to do with her.  Her desperation for him only causes him to retreat further.  Big Daddy definitely favors Brick and Maggie but is reluctant to leave the bulk of his wealth to a drunk and his infertile wife.  Big Daddy is also definitely lusting after Maggie for himself, which makes for some interesting dynamics as Maggie is vying for the inheritance.

Of the movies I've watched, this is my favorite so far.  As I said earlier, I would've loved to have watched Newman work through the original story line.  I realize Brick's character is detached and miserable but I couldn't help but feel Newman holding back and it was a bit of a distraction.  He was nominated for an Academy Award (lost to David Niven) but had he been given the entire role, I have to wonder if he would've ultimately gone on to win.  We'll never know.  I have to give a huge nod to Burl Ives as Big Daddy.  He interestingly won the Academy Award this same year - but as best supporting actor for his role in the movie The Big Country, not COAHTR.  He did a phenomenal job acting here.  I am not much familiar with him as an actor, but his scenes in this film when he realized he was in fact dying of cancer and it would be an excruciatingly painful death were nothing less than riveting.  And Elizabeth Taylor - I have to admit, I've never been a huge fan of hers.  She was exquisitely beautiful, no doubt.  But this film put her in a new light for me with regard to her acting and I'm now wondering if I hadn't sold her talent short all these years.  Reportedly during filming her husband at the time (and also producer on the film), Mike Todd, died in a plane crash and she was supposed to have been on that plane but stayed back because of a mild illness.  This was during the first week of filming.  I can't even imagine.  They had a 1 year old child together at the time.

If you like old movies and/or Paul Newman, this one is definitely not one to miss. 




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Re: Paul Newman = God
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2022, 06:46:04 PM »
For as much of a film fan I like to believe I am, there are a ton of "how have you never seen this movie?" movies I've never seen. This is one of them.
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« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2022, 03:48:58 PM »
For as much of a film fan I like to believe I am, there are a ton of "how have you never seen this movie?" movies I've never seen. This is one of them.

I think many movie fans have a list of movies they know they should've seen but never have.  You are not alone!  Hud is one for me and I cannot wait to get to it.

For now we are at Rally 'Round the Flag, Boys! (1958 - PN's 4th movie release of the year).  Based on a comic novel by Max Shulman and directed by Leo McCarey (Duck Soup, An Affair to Remember).  Featuring PN, Joanne Woodward, Joan Collins, and Tuesday Weld.  It is essentially a satire of late 50s suburbia in small town Putnam's Landing, Connecticut.  Brief synopsis is (copied from Wikipedia) "public relations specialist Harry Bannerman (Paul Newman) is slowly going insane because his wife Grace (Joanne Woodward) insists on attending every local civic committee meeting. When the government selects the town for the site of a new missile base, Grace joins a committee to prevent it from being built.

Harry is made the liaison for the military, and Grace's activities cause him no end of trouble. Adding to the dilemma is Angela Hoffa (Joan Collins), whose efforts to get Harry for herself lead to dizzying recriminations and misunderstandings."

See cancel culture existed even in the 50s   :lol

Overall, the film is firmly in the campy category.  I enjoyed watching PN and JW together but nothing beat the scene with Newman and Collins getting drunk together (she trying to bed the very married Harry who must resist in the midst of his inebriated state) and Newman literally ending up swinging from a chandelier.  It is interesting from a time-capsule perspective...in what life looked like inside suburban homes in the 50s and the very rigid sexual stereotypes.  I enjoyed the set design, costumes, cars, etc. but have very little to recommend beyond that.  Ok maybe the nod to sending the first chimpanzee into space at the end (that didn't actually happen until 1961).  This movie had quite a few odd seemingly disparate nuggets of factoids from the late '50s.  A time capsule, if you will, with no real depth of story line or characters.  Reportedly the book was quite well received but as is often the case, just didn't seem to translate that well to the screen.


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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2022, 08:57:29 AM »
I've only seen one of these three (CoaHTR, and that was a LONG time ago) but these reviews are excellent and kind of tempt me to go back and visit/revisit some of these. 

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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2022, 11:25:20 AM »
"A man's life...is the sum of all his actions, but his actions are sometimes the result of the hopes, dreams and desires of those who came before him. In that sense, my life began even before I was born."

The Young Philadelphians (1959) is an epic family/legal drama based on a 1956 novel, The Philadelphian, by Richard P. Powell.  Directed by Vincent Sherman.  The story set in 1924, as told in the book spans 3 generations.  The movie essentially cut it down to one generation and still managed to be very long - run time 2 hrs 16 min - and I still cannot figure out the best way to write up this review!  Newman plays Anthony "Tony" Judson Lawrence, an ambitious college student working his way through doing construction but with dreams of being a lawyer.  One day on the job, one of the truck drivers on his worksite backs into a car driven by a socialite, Joan Dickinson (Barbara Rush).  Of course they fall in love....I mean, who wouldn't looking at PN in a wife-beater undershirt, all sweaty from working out in the sun?   :P

So much happens in the story line, I'm just going to post a link to an AFI wall of text that describes the unfolding of events.  The synopsis alone reads like a novel:  https://catalog.afi.com/Catalog/MovieDetails/53071

Takeaways - This was PN's only movie release in 1959.

The movie was a success and finished 2nd at the box office opening weekend behind Some Like it Hot

This film was the debut of actor Adam West (Batman) who was probably in the film for less than 3 minutes right in the beginning.

Robert Vaughn was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor but lost to Hugh Griffith for Ben-Hur

Another notable actress in the film was Billie Burke.  I didn't recognize her until she spoke.  She played Glenda, the Good Witch of the North in The Wizard of Oz.  This was one of her last films before her death in 1960, and she was delightful to watch.

Brian Keith is in a notable role here as Tony's "uncle" who is really his biological father, Mike Flanagan.  I don't know if it was all those seasons of Family Affair (does anyone else remember that show?) or if it is because I absolutely LOVE the 80s movie, Sharky's Machine with Burt Reynolds, but he's one of those actors who always makes me feel good when I watch him on screen.

My personal opinion is that I feel like I should have enjoyed this film more than I did.  I like dramas, I like courtroom dramas, and of course I love all things Paul Newman.  The acting here was fine, and once again I found the set design, costumes, and peeks into that era of life to be interesting and worthwhile.  I just found the storyline to be convoluted and it seemed to drag on.  It is possible I just wasn't in the right headspace for this one and I'd enjoy it more with a rewatch.



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Re: Paul Newman = God
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2022, 08:56:45 PM »
We did see 'Cat On A Hot Tin Roof' on stage a couple of years ago.  It is next in our Netflix queue, whenever we watch whatever has been sitting here for a couple of weeks and gets returned.  :D   

I just looked at his filmography, and was surprised that I have seen sixteen of his films. 

Thanks so much for the research and personal comments.  It's not as easy as it looks...

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« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2022, 11:27:38 AM »
Thanks DA!  I've gotten a bit behind here.

Next up is 'From the Terrace' (1960).  Billed as a romantic drama - this is PN and JW's 3rd film together.  Based on the novel by John O'Hara.  Directed by Mark Robson (Peyton Place, Valley of the Dolls, Earthquake).  The basic plot is estranged son, Alfred (PN), returns from the war to Philadelphia, marries into a prestigious family, and moves to New York to seek his fortune.  There were many things I liked about the film but mostly is felt a bit soap opera-ish.  It was a bit long at 2.5 hrs and I have to admit, I drifted off to sleep a bit at the end.

Synopsis from TCM

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In Philadelphia in 1946, Alfred Eaton returns home from the war to find his mother Martha a wretched alcoholic, the victim of years of neglect and abuse from her husband Samuel, the owner of a prestigious iron and steel company. Samuel emotionally withdrew from his family thirteen years earlier after the death of his beloved son Billy, and still resents the fact that Billy died while Alfred lives. When Samuel begrudgingly offers Alfred a position in the family business, Alfred states that he is moving to New York to launch an aircraft business with his old friend Lex Porter.

While attending a party at the estate of Lex's wealthy uncle, Fritz Thornton, Arthur spots Mary St. John, the stunning daughter of a Main Line family. Mary, who is secretly engaged to Dr. Jim Roper, is sexually drawn to Alfred, and soon the two are embroiled in a tempestuous relationship. When Mary's snobbish parents object that Alfred's father is a nobody and his mother is a drunk, Mary defies them and continues to see Alfred. After Alfred asks his father for a loan to finance his share of the aircraft company, Samuel humiliates Alfred and begins to sob for the lost Billy. Furious, Alfred storms out in disgust, after which Samuel suffers a heart attack and is hospitalized. Believing that Samuel's ill health will place Alfred closer to the helm of the Eaton Steel company, Mr. St. John condones his daughter's engagement to Alfred. On the day of the wedding, Alfred receives word that his father has died. Certain that Samuel has timed his death to spite him, Alfred goes ahead with the ceremony.

With Thornton money, Lex and Alfred then fund the Nassau Aircraft Corporation, but when Lex shows more interest in perfecting aircraft designs than in selling planes, Alfred, hungry for riches, becomes impatient. One wintry day, Alfred and Mary are driving home from a party at the Thornton estate when they see a little boy fall through the thin ice of a frozen pond. After Alfred plunges into the icy waters to save the boy, the boy's grandfather, James Duncan MacHardie, the most famous financier in America, invites Alfred and Mary to dinner. MacHardie, a shrewd businessman, senses Alfred's drive and ambition, and when Alfred asserts that his goal in life is to earn more money than his father, MacHardie offers him a job in his investment firm. Obsessed by success, Alfred travels the country for MacHardie, leaving Mary alone for months at a time. Mary, lonely and self-pitying, begins to resent Alfred's constant absences.

When Creighton Duffy, MacHardie's son-in law, whose position in his father-in-law's business is threatened by Alfred's acumen, suggests that Alfred spend two months in rural Pennsylvania counseling investment to Ralph Benziger, a prosperous coal mine owner, Alfred finds his marriage to Mary irretrievably broken. After an ugly argument with Mary, Alfred goes to Pennsylvania, and one night, is invited to dinner at Benziger's, where he meets Benziger's compassionate, ingenious daughter Natalie. Overwhelmed by Natalie's sensitivity, Alfred impetuously invites her to a movie, but she refuses. Later that night, however, Natalie phones Alfred at his hotel room and arranges to meet him at a drive-in the following evening. After Alfred tells Natalie that her warmth and generosity has made him realize what a sham his marriage is, they kiss. Later, however, Natalie reconsiders and decides that they must end their relationship and they part, still loving each other.

Upon returning to New York, Alfred is immediately summoned to MacHardie's office, where MacHardie informs him that Mary is having an affair with Jim. After warning Alfred that he will not tolerate divorce within his firm, MacHardie assigns him to analyze the Nassau Aircraft Corp. as a possible investment. One night while leaving a party with Mary, Alfred unexpectedly encounters Natalie in front of the hotel. Sensing that Alfred and Natalie have been intimate, Mary vindictively calls Jim and makes a date with him. Later, Alfred meets Natalie and tells her that although he is estranged from Mary, his career prevents him from divorcing her. Duffy, who has become unethically involved with Nassau Aircraft and will reap a financial windfall if MacHardie invests in the company, threatens to blackmail Alfred unless he suppresses his report. One night, while Alfred and Natalie share a passionate embrace in her hotel room, photographers hired by Duffy burst in and snap a picture of their indiscretion. After Alfred considers giving into Duffy's blackmail, Natalie, uncertain if he is trying to save her reputation or his career, decides to leave him.

When Alfred returns home, Mary suggests that they share an open marriage and proclaims that she will never divorce him. After Mary seductively retires to her bedroom, the scandalous photos are delivered to Alfred. At a business meeting the next day, MacHardie ushers in Mary to celebrate Alfred's surprise promotion to partner. As Duffy smirks, Alfred denounces MacHardie's hypocrisy of placing success and social position above personal responsibility and happiness. Alfred then issues the uncensored report exposing Duffy's duplicity and walks out. When Mary runs after him, he accuses her of trying to revive their marriage solely to savor the prestige of being married to a partner in the MacHardie firm. With Mary screaming at him, Alfred drives off to reconcile with Natalie.

PN and JW are both stunningly gorgeous in this film.  The scene where Alfred first spots Mary at a party while she is dancing with her fiance is intense for the sexual energy between them.  I also found it quite interesting that Mary eventually suggests they have an open marriage.  I wasn't around in the 50s but if I were to guess, I'd say open marriages were not a thing back then.

Other notable co-stars were Myrna Loy (she played Alfred's alcoholic mother and she did such a great job that my PTSD from my own grandmother flaired up, lol), Ina Balin, Leon Ames, George Grizzard, and a nubile Barbara Eden.

To me, this felt like the trouble with the film was the adaptation of the book to the screenplay.  The acting was quite good.  The set design, costumes, cinematography was everything you'd want from a "Hollywood Classic" and yet the story felt a bit lack-luster and done before.




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Re: Paul Newman = God
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2022, 06:14:46 PM »
EXODUS

Released December 1960.  Based on the Leon Uris novel released in 1958.  Directed by Otto Preminger

This is a historical epic that focuses on the birth of Israel after World War II. It follows Ari Ben Canaan (PN), an Israeli resistance leader as he tries to help a group of 600 Jewish immigrants escape British-blocked Cypress for Palestine.  Star studded cast - Eva Marie Saint, Ralph Richardson, Peter Lawford, Sal Mineo (Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor), Lee J. Cobb, John Derek

This is a fantastic movie.  It is a long movie (3 hrs 40 min) and it is a movie I would love to watch a few more times.  I should probably read the book.  There really is too much going on to give a synopsis here, like I said, it is epic in scope.  Like Lawrence of Arabia or Ben-Hur or Spartacus.  Filmed on location in Cyprus and Israel.  It provides context about a situation I had never really given much thought about before - the Jewish refugees finding their way after the war, seeking their homeland.  It also deals with the rampant anti-Semitism that was very much a normal way of life for the British forces tasked to contain them in a geopolitical quagmire.  I'll post this very short clip to illustrate this point and also to showcase PN's acting chops.  Remember, Newman is playing the lead Ari, in disguise here as a fellow British officer and yet very much a Jew.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3FtzmvAiMc

There was reportedly much tension on the set between Newman and Preminger and at times they were barely speaking to one another.  Newman and Saint had worked together in the past but I never really felt much of a spark between them.  As you might expect, Preminger called his film the most accurate depiction of events though the film has had more than its share of critical observations that it took liberties with the truth and was one-sided in its political leanings.

I know I will probably keep saying this, but this is my favorite PN movie so far.  If you like sweeping epic historical dramas and have some time to kill, definitely check this one out.



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« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2022, 10:15:45 AM »
Wow, that sounds right up my alley, and I don't remember ever hearing of it before.

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Re: Paul Newman = God
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2022, 05:44:24 PM »
"Fat man....you sure shoot a great game of pool."

"So do you, Fast Eddie."


The Hustler

1961

This is simply a must see film.  I will come clean - I've many times watched Scorsese's The Color of Money - for which PN won his Oscar portraying Fast Eddie Felson - only 25 years later than he should have.  But this was my first start-to-finish viewing of this film.  And I'm an idiot for not seeing it before.  Now I don't say this lightly.  I loved The Color of Money and Scorsese is one of my all time favorite directors.  But The Hustler is the film PN should've won for.  He is astonishingly brilliant in it.  The entire cast is brilliant - George C. Scott, Piper Laurie, Jackie Gleason - these are all actors who are arguably at the pinnacle of their careers.  They command the viewer's attention and do not let up until the final credits role.  The fantastic story is almost buried by the power of these performances.  You don't have to be a fan of pool to enjoy this film.  Though the pool scenes are tension-filled vignettes that truly showcase the skills of the players (actors).  The story is almost universal and applicable to many sports themed productions.

For those who aren't familiar with the film, Fast Eddie Felson is a pool prodigy who sharks his way to meet and play against the legendary Minnesota Fats.  After a grueling 25 hour match, Fats has taught Eddie some hard lessons about life and Eddie goes off to lick his wounds and regroup.  He meets up with a lonely, mildly disabled, and alcoholic woman Sarah (Piper Laurie) who spends her sleepless nights in a bus station.  She easily recognizes that he is every bit as broken as she is and, "too hungry."  Yet their attraction to one another is too strong and they wind up living together as Eddie contrives to find Fats and beat him at his own game.

Enter Bert, George C. Scott, who tells Eddie he's a born loser but agrees to stake him in his quest to go up against Fats again.  For 75% of the winnings.  Eddie refuses and cockily goes off to hustle his way along again and in a seedy bar is discovered and beaten to the point of having both thumbs broken.  As he nurses himself back, he once again meets with Bert and agrees to Bert's terms.  Bert sets up a small but lucrative game between Eddie and a rich socialite looking for a game after the Kentucky Derby. But once the game begins Eddie discovers it is billiards, not pool, and Eddie loses so badly that Bert refuses to stake him further.  Eddie's inner demon thus unleashed, he refuses to return to the hotel with Sarah who pleads with him to leave the "perverted, sick and twisted" world of gambling/pool behind.  Bert eventually agrees to stake him at $1000 a game.  Eddie comes back and winds up winning $12K and after collecting his $3K returns to the hotel to find Sarah has killed herself using heroin and slitting her wrists.

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Eddie puts up the $3K in the rematch with Fats again but this time on a single game.  Eddie continues to win then, putting the balance up game after game and Fats eventually has to concede.  Bert demands his cut and threatens to have him beaten but Eddie goads him by telling him he will heal from the beating and hunt him down and kill him.  It is a riveting scene.  Bert lets it go but only on the caveat that Eddie never plays pool for stakes again.  And the 2 phenomenal players acknowledge each other's greatness and the film ends.

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This film was nominated for a slew of awards.  It won for Best Picture and Newman for Best Actor at the British Academy Film Awards.  As for the Oscars, it won for Best Cinematography and Best Art Direction, black and white.  Why it didn't do better there I can only surmise the voters preferred West Side Story and Judgment at Nuremberg.  Director Robert Rosen was rightfully nominated.  He is another interesting director who pled the fifth during the HUAC investigations and refused to say whether he had ever been a communist or not.  He was thus blacklisted and refused his passport.  He was called to testify a 2nd time and named 57 people in order to get his blacklisting lifted so he could work again.  I should also credit the writer here - the movie was based on a novel by Walter Tevis (The Color of Money, The Man Who Fell to Earth, The Queen's Gambit).

At a cursory glance The Hustler is a film about a pool shark.  But it really is about the obsession with winning at any cost. 

Trivia:  All the pool shots in the film are made by the actors themselves except for one - called a 'masse' shot where the cue balls sends 2 object balls into the same pocket.  This shot was done by Willie Mosconi, who also served as technical advisor on the movie.

Newman had never held a pool cue before landing the role.  He took out the dining table in his home and had a pool table put in its place to practice.

Newman and Gleason became friends but at one point during filming Newman challenged Gleason to play for $50.  Gleason being a much better pool player, took advantage of winning every of the 15 shots after Newman broke.  Newman payed off his debt the next day in pennies.

Weird musing I had while watching the scenes between Eddie and Sarah while Eddie's thumbs were casted - "How the hell can he wipe his ass like that?"  :lol

As usual, this is now my favorite PN movie.  :tup




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« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2022, 09:05:50 PM »
A classic I didn't get around to till my 30s. Appreciated the quality, but didn't enjoy as much as I had hoped. Built up too much in my head, perhaps. George C Scott is tough on other actors for me. When he is on the screen I am pretty oblivious as to anyone else in the scene.

Since you brought it up, I've never seen West Side Story, but it seems like the type of film Academy voters at the time would have liked. Judgment at Nuremberg is solid, and I recall Maximilian Schell was (and maybe still is) the lowest billed actor to receive an Oscar for best actor/actress. Enjoyable film, despite the subject matter.
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« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2022, 11:23:43 PM »
Missed on Exodus. When I moved in to my first place, I had no cable, so my mom would periodically buy me VHS tapes (and then DVDs) from the discount bin at her grocery store. Exodus was one of them. Remember liking this, without really having a good understanding of the historical context. A big takeaway was how weird it was seeing Lee J. Cobb not being a raging asshole, as he was so ingrained in my head as Juror #3.
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