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The stupidity of "appropriation"
« on: August 13, 2022, 08:21:53 AM »
Well said by Bill Maher here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDkNmbJLB3o

He pretty much said what I have for years: the whole point of acting is to play someone or something you are not! 

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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2022, 09:03:25 AM »
I go back and forth.  You make a fair point, one that I've often shared as well but it's little more complicated than that I think.

edit:  to elaborate,  even if the point of acting is be someone else completely different (which again I basically agree with),  that could be used to justify things like blackface and we obviously shouldn't go back to that.  So there's an evolution there that did need to happen and should keep happening but there's no hard and fast rule and that can makes things messy.
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2022, 09:45:19 AM »
Yeah, it's like most issues: complicated and no easy answer for all situations.

I will say that it's easy for white people to make light of cultural appropriation because the only things we have for others to appropriate are things no one wants, like colonialism, the plague, and socks with sandals.
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2022, 10:32:58 AM »
Yeah, it's like most issues: complicated and no easy answer for all situations.

I will say that it's easy for white people to make light of cultural appropriation because the only things we have for others to appropriate are things no one wants, like colonialism, the plague, and socks with sandals.

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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2022, 10:36:10 AM »
Yeah, it's like most issues: complicated and no easy answer for all situations.

I will say that it's easy for white people to make light of cultural appropriation because the only things we have for others to appropriate are things no one wants, like colonialism, the plague, and socks with sandals.

And Jorts...don't forget Jorts.

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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2022, 10:39:00 AM »
 :lol right? They're so comfy and convenient.

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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2022, 11:40:50 AM »
The issue of Cultural Appropriation in Movies began when films were only White casts.

"Non-whites" (in quotes because other whites were persecuted as well), were seen as lower class citizens unworthy of being entitled to play and act in film. Black casts were relegated to certain roles in television. And in turn, those in Black Face were acting out a stereotype that portrayed Blacks as Big-Lipped, Monkey faced, people. And with this, others now perceive Black people to be just that, which people took as how Black, or in my case "Indians", really behaved and acted in reality.

It's also why White Chicks was the best retaliation because it's stereotyping the upper class white chick. Played by Black men which adds a lot more hilarity to the entire Cultural Appropriation.

But also, what I would want to say would be better suited in the P/R thread.
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2022, 12:20:07 PM »
WTF is a jort?


It's also why White Chicks was the best retaliation because it's stereotyping the upper class white chick. Played by Black men which adds a lot more hilarity to the entire Cultural Appropriation.

This is literally the funniest movie I've ever seen.
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2022, 12:26:21 PM »
Well said by Bill Maher here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDkNmbJLB3o

He pretty much said what I have for years: the whole point of acting is to play someone or something you are not!

He is dead on, and his point about all this talk about diversity and inclusion is actually dividing people is a bullseye.
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2022, 12:40:16 PM »
WTF is a jort?




Jean Shorts

Oh...thank you. I thought only chicks wore those. ;D
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2022, 12:50:37 PM »
Dammit Tim!  :facepalm:
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2022, 02:02:56 PM »
Well said by Bill Maher here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDkNmbJLB3o

He pretty much said what I have for years: the whole point of acting is to play someone or something you are not! 

Ah, hence Bill Maher acting for years like he is clever and funny.
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2022, 02:58:44 PM »
Well said by Bill Maher here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDkNmbJLB3o

He pretty much said what I have for years: the whole point of acting is to play someone or something you are not! 

Ah, hence Bill Maher acting for years like he is clever and funny.

Instead of attacking the messenger, what is your take on his message?

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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2022, 03:39:50 PM »
Like 98% of his takes, It's a pile of arse gravy. I will elaborate more eloquently when I am sober.
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2022, 03:44:13 PM »
Like 98% of his takes, It's a pile of arse gravy. I will elaborate more eloquently when I am sober.

 :lol  Not sure how much more eloquent you need to be when using the term 'arse gravy.'
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2022, 03:57:37 PM »
Like 98% of his takes, It's a pile of arse gravy. I will elaborate more eloquently when I am sober.

 :lol  Not sure how much more eloquent you need to be when using the term 'arse gravy.'

Yeah, I for one wish you'd elaborate more while loaded, you're certainly off to a great start. :lol

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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2022, 04:01:47 PM »
We can make it a series, "XJDenton elaborates while utterly plastered". Topic suggestions on a post card.
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2022, 04:20:00 PM »
I'm all in for that.
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2022, 04:46:22 PM »
XJdenton is pissed and pissed?
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2022, 04:51:34 PM »
Netflix special.
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2022, 05:08:28 PM »
XJdenton is pissed and pissed?

Genius.
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« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2022, 05:15:39 PM »
XJdenton is pissed and pissed?

Genius.

New thread title right there…
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2022, 08:08:11 PM »
We can make it a series, "XJDenton elaborates while utterly plastered". Topic suggestions on a post card.

Will this be free to view or do I need a paid subscription.  If so, how much?
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2022, 09:43:53 PM »
 :lol

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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2022, 10:11:59 PM »
I completely agree with Bill. Now we can't suspend our disbelief that a British actor can play a French star fleet captain?

It's acting. It's a way to suspended disbelief.

This is not real life.
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2022, 01:29:18 AM »
You lost me at Bill Maher.
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2022, 07:12:30 AM »
I completely agree with Bill. Now we can't suspend our disbelief that a British actor can play a French star fleet captain?

It's acting. It's a way to suspended disbelief.

This is not real life.

Exactly.

Maher brought up something I hadn't thought of before, which is that if gay people are only allowed to play gay characters, then gay actors will be forced to come out when getting a role, which is an invasion of privacy.  While coming out is far less difficult than it used to be (generally speaking from a societal acceptance standpoint, as each person is different), if someone wants to keep it private, which is their right, because, let's face it, it is none of our damn business, then they should be able to do so. 

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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2022, 08:22:29 AM »
XJ accidentally the thread.
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2022, 09:14:53 AM »
XJ accidentally the thread.

Glorious. 
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2022, 09:17:17 AM »
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2022, 10:23:57 AM »
XJ accidentally the thread.

The whole thing?
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Re: The stupidity of "appropriation"
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2022, 11:45:26 AM »
Oh, accidentally the whole thing is TIGHT!


Gotta agree with Bill Maher on this one. We are slowly regressing back to the dark ages.

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« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2022, 01:23:13 PM »
Hef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.