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This should give us a chance to promote a band that seems to be off the radar on this forum.

Mine is Kingfisher Sky.  Search appears to show that I'm the only one that has mentioned them here except for one other poster a single time almost a decade ago.  They are a progressive/folk rock/metal band with symphonic and gothic elements from the Netherlands, split off from Within Temptation.  WT has always been interesting in that regard, because their other much more famous branch is from Martijn Westerholt, WT's keyboardist, who left to form Delain, who to me beat WT at their own symphonic rock/metal game.  But Kingfisher Sky is formed from co-founder Ivar de Graaf, originally the drummer in WT for their first few albums, but who left because WT was wanting to streamline their music too much to his taste.  I'd always liked that early period of WT, Ivar had some some tasty tom and cymbal work on tracks like "The Dance", "Grace", and "Candles". 

Back to KFS, de Graaf's playing at times is reminiscent of Danny Carey, though a bit more restrained and less intense.  The vocalist is his wife, Judith Rijnveld, who is classically-trained, but somewhat like Floor Jansen, has a far wider range of vocal timbres than the cliched operatic styles of somewhat similar bands, though she can pull those off well when she wants to.  I'm a bit surprised that Arjen Anthony Lucassen hasn't tried to poach her for an Ayreon album yet, given that he must be aware of KFS since their cellist Maaike Peterse is featured on a number of the last few Ayreon projects. They occasionally have a second guitarist, and Ivar himself is a multi-instrumentalist who contributes some other instrumentation as well, but primary guitarist Edo van der Kolk is quite excellent, always enhancing each song with tasteful work, but never overpowering them.  He is equally adept with 7-string as with acoustic and 12-string guitars.  They also always have a keyboardist to accent with piano, Hammond organ, extra strings and such. 

Overall their music is often rather elegant and subtle.  Some promoters and reviewers at the time they came out tried to describe them as another Evanescence-like band, which really does them a disservice.  They can certainly appeal to a segment of that audience, but they have a much stronger folk leaning, and some proggy tendencies.  Even on their first single "November" the chorus is in 7/4, so I think they were rather mismarketed.  They kind of straddle that rock/metal balance, where they consider themselves more of a rock band, but they do have heavier and more aggressive moments in numerous songs on each album (though I'm a bit surprised Metal-Archives accepted them given how stringent they normally are).  All of KFS' albums for me are strong growers, where the hooks aren't always immediately apparent, but they really latch on after awhile.  That makes it challenging I think for people casually checking them out with so many competing artists, but it's worth a shot, prog fans generally have a bit more patience. 

They're quite consistent, so it's hard to recommend a specific album.  I'm partial to the first two, Hallway of Dreams and Skin of the Earth, but that may just be because I've spent more time with them.  I don't understand why their latest Technicolored Eyes has a lower score on Rate Your Music, it's of the same quality as their others, but it might be the least immediate and accessible, which is the only thing I can really come up with.  Anyway, here are a variety of sample tracks and a video. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEJPnp7sXNg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_PU1LWA-8c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkURNxrLBbI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLh3m6U9EWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk8JSXSEFmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0v_apERHcQ
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2022, 11:34:18 AM »
Hmm, Kingfisher Sky sounds right up my alley. I'll have to give them a listen :metal
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Re: Talk about a favorite band that hardly anyone here knows about
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2022, 11:52:23 AM »
I'm at work right now, so I'll have to come back and expand on this a bit more, but I'd have to throw in Bela Fleck & The Flecktones. Don't let the banjo fool you, they aren't just a bluegrass band, but they combine some amazing parts of jazz, fusion, rock, bluegrass, world music of all types, and do it with some proggy influences. They're quite different than anything I listen to and it helps them stand apart.

One of my favorite songs is "Big Country", especially their performance from their live album Live At The Quick. You can check it out here - https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6c17c

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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2022, 12:17:34 PM »
I have long sung the praises of Odd Logic. I discovered them when a local band called Graphic Light Theory opened up for Fates Warning on their DIADL tour. The lead singer sounded so much like Ted Leonard that it was uncanny. So I saw him in the audience after the show, and he was really flattered because he’s a huge Enchant fan. Then he told me his primary project was Odd Logic and he gave me their (then) most recent album. I was really skeptical (when a guy at a show hand you a free sample of his band, the results are usually “just ok” at best) but I was honestly completely blown away. And Sean and I began a friendship.

In spite of 8 very strong albums (the last two of which were starting to get them a little bit of attention) he still couldn’t get the band signed (freaking criminal) and it appears that Odd Logic is on hiatus.

But Sean has been teasing a new collaboration called Nothing in Writing. The album is supposed to drop in a couple of weeks, but I love the teasers so far:

Teaser 1: https://whyp.it/t/new-life-teaser-dBXJn?fbclid=IwAR244WtM9V8k2jgKTt81qp4GCsRp7iyPhKN0Ud4hUx2_hW32YAKBJIGOZAg

Teaser 2: https://whyp.it/t/home-again-teaser-axzZ3?fbclid=IwAR0cYwk_Fr0VXNmEP2k7GQdVlIXnBw7oRRDtYMlt4ybDi7L4tG85Oh90Ba0

Teaser 3: https://whyp.it/t/moment-in-time-teaser-e33rp?fbclid=IwAR1pIy08kf5xNk2ZtEF001t7aGWfBa_d2qLB_JU9SCa4XqWoevFgfjCpxqM

And if you STILL haven’t heard Odd Logic - Shame on you!!  :angel: ;D

Here’s a sample from their Effigy album:

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Re: Talk about a favorite band that hardly anyone here knows about
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2022, 12:23:40 PM »
I'm at work right now, so I'll have to come back and expand on this a bit more, but I'd have to throw in Bela Fleck & The Flecktones. Don't let the banjo fool you, they aren't just a bluegrass band, but they combine some amazing parts of jazz, fusion, rock, bluegrass, world music of all types, and do it with some proggy influences. They're quite different than anything I listen to and it helps them stand apart.

Bela is quite a fascinating musician.  I've been a casual fan of his for a long time, from his work in New Grass Revival to Tabula Rasa with Jie-Bing Chen and Vishwa Mohan Bhatt to his variety of other solo works and such.  I've heard a few Flecktones albums, but I'm not as familiar with them as I'd like to be, so I'll have to spend more time with them. 

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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2022, 12:28:28 PM »
I did a whole thread about Sweet Billy Pilgrim the other week. 80 people looked at it but nobody commented. They probably aren’t most people around here’s cup of tea, but I know at least a few people who are more into art pop/indy/non-traditional prof type stuff would like them.

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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2022, 12:33:58 PM »
This should give us a chance to promote a band that seems to be off the radar on this forum.

Mine is Kingfisher Sky.  Search appears to show that I'm the only one that has mentioned them here except for one other poster a single time almost a decade ago.  They are a progressive/folk rock/metal band with symphonic and gothic elements from the Netherlands, split off from Within Temptation.  WT has always been interesting in that regard, because their other much more famous branch is from Martijn Westerholt, WT's keyboardist, who left to form Delain, who to me beat WT at their own symphonic rock/metal game.  But Kingfisher Sky is formed from co-founder Ivar de Graaf, originally the drummer in WT for their first few albums, but who left because WT was wanting to streamline their music too much to his taste.  I'd always liked that early period of WT, Ivar had some some tasty tom and cymbal work on tracks like "The Dance", "Grace", and "Candles". 

Back to KFS, de Graaf's playing at times is reminiscent of Danny Carey, though a bit more restrained and less intense.  The vocalist is his wife, Judith Rijnveld, who is classically-trained, but somewhat like Floor Jansen, has a far wider range of vocal timbres than the cliched operatic styles of somewhat similar bands, though she can pull those off well when she wants to.  I'm a bit surprised that Arjen Anthony Lucassen hasn't tried to poach her for an Ayreon album yet, given that he must be aware of KFS since their cellist Maaike Peterse is featured on a number of the last few Ayreon projects. They occasionally have a second guitarist, and Ivar himself is a multi-instrumentalist who contributes some other instrumentation as well, but primary guitarist Edo van der Kolk is quite excellent, always enhancing each song with tasteful work, but never overpowering them.  He is equally adept with 7-string as with acoustic and 12-string guitars.  They also always have a keyboardist to accent with piano, Hammond organ, extra strings and such. 

Overall their music is often rather elegant and subtle.  Some promoters and reviewers at the time they came out tried to describe them as another Evanescence-like band, which really does them a disservice.  They can certainly appeal to a segment of that audience, but they have a much stronger folk leaning, and some proggy tendencies.  Even on their first single "November" the chorus is in 7/4, so I think they were rather mismarketed.  They kind of straddle that rock/metal balance, where they consider themselves more of a rock band, but they do have heavier and more aggressive moments in numerous songs on each album (though I'm a bit surprised Metal-Archives accepted them given how stringent they normally are).  All of KFS' albums for me are strong growers, where the hooks aren't always immediately apparent, but they really latch on after awhile.  That makes it challenging I think for people casually checking them out with so many competing artists, but it's worth a shot, prog fans generally have a bit more patience. 

They're quite consistent, so it's hard to recommend a specific album.  I'm partial to the first two, Hallway of Dreams and Skin of the Earth, but that may just be because I've spent more time with them.  I don't understand why their latest Technicolored Eyes has a lower score on Rate Your Music, it's of the same quality as their others, but it might be the least immediate and accessible, which is the only thing I can really come up with.  Anyway, here are a variety of sample tracks and a video. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEJPnp7sXNg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_PU1LWA-8c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkURNxrLBbI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLh3m6U9EWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk8JSXSEFmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0v_apERHcQ

I’m out and about with the wife for our 24th anniversary today, but I just had to drop a quick note and say I checked out a couple of these samples and I am very impressed! I am definitely going to be checking out more of this band!
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Re: Talk about a favorite band that hardly anyone here knows about
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2022, 10:37:24 PM »
One of my favorite bands the past couple of years has been the Michigan shoegaze band Greet Death. I've sent them in a few roulettes but so far I seem to be the only one here who's actually sold on them, which is a shame because there's lots of stuff to love about them, so long as you can stomach incredibly pessimistic and dejected lyrics (they're from the Midwest, who can blame them).

The thing I like about them the most is that they don't over-focus on texture like a lot of shoegaze bands do. They're incredibly melodic. Almost all of their songs have extremely catchy, infectious vocal melodies. Their riffs kick ass. They've got classic rock-inspired guitar solos. They're not a band who's sole appeal comes from burying everything under walls of fuzz and distortion. That's not to say they don't have walls of distortion, oh no - their guitar and bass tones are fucking filthy and disgusting (in the best way possible). They just have the sense to combine that with actual hooks. Honestly, they don't sound like any other shoegaze band I've heard, so I'd recommend checking them out even if you're not usually into the genre (like me). I think they'd have a lot of crossover appeal for fans of indie rock and post-hardcore (looking at you, Cyril).

The band has two vocalists, and while they rarely share lead vocals on a single song, they both have about a 50/50 split in terms of appearances. Logan Gaval's voice is deeper and darker, and Sam Boyhtari's voice is higher and brighter. They're complete opposites of each other. While neither vocalist is particularly amazing in terms of technical ability, they compliment each other perfectly and always fit the instrumentation equally as well. I prefer Sam's voice myself, but there's some songs he wouldn't be able to pull off as well as Logan does. The band wouldn't be anywhere near as good if either one of them were always singing.

Finally, the band's got a ton of variety. You've got energetic, upbeat rockers like Bow and Valediction. Songs like Strange Days and Circles Of Hell alternate between softer and heavier passages, creating a satisfying contrast. The song Strain sticks out like a sore thumb in their catalog in that it's practically a doom metal song with its glacial tempo and dirge-y riffs. You're Gonna Hate What You've Done is one of their best and longest songs, with a quiet first half, and a bombastic, cathartic, and guitar solo-filled climax. Finally, their EP they released just last month strips out their heavy elements almost entirely, focusing on folkier, quieter, and more atmospheric instrumentation, like on the acoustic "John Mayer shit" song I Hate Everything and the country-inspired Your Love Is Alcohol, complete with not-quite-in-tune piano and harmonica.

They've released two albums and one EP so far, and all of them are good. But if you want their best work, definitely check out their 2019 album New Hell, which has become my favorite album from that year.

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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2022, 12:46:15 AM »
One of my favorite bands the past couple of years has been the Michigan shoegaze band Greet Death. I've sent them in a few roulettes but so far I seem to be the only one here who's actually sold on them, which is a shame because there's lots of stuff to love about them, so long as you can stomach incredibly pessimistic and dejected lyrics (they're from the Midwest, who can blame them).

Another Greet Death fan reporting in! Really liked their album (especially the 2 long songs) and also digging the new EP (especially I Hate Everything). Hoping they keep producing good music and it's not one of those 'has a great album and then fades' situations. :p

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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2022, 07:54:41 AM »
OP: Thanks for the suggestions. Great music. I feel a very strong Mostly Autumn vibe in that music.

As for my suggestions, mainly two prog-rock bands.

Soup (For all PT fans here, I strongly recommend. I discovered them after PT, but TBH I now prefer their music):

The roots are decaying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_VR2xWL41Y
Northern patriarch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM97JZRw5ww
Going somewhere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKpNALJM404
Surrounded by ghosts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSf26tuJWSg
Clandestine eyes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M45xxUv47Os

Also, if you like Soup, you should check the singer's side project Giant Sky (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTSVyWEXFmY)

Innerspace: Second one is from the city where I live and their music has a very strong Pink Floyd influence :

In Motion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXsg1ByJkUg
Tree of Life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20vlmT0XFVY&list=PLJdP6kZNQvK1G74grgfZEv3ERCXq5hkRY&index=2
The other side: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB8BKd6PEKM&list=PLJdP6kZNQvK1G74grgfZEv3ERCXq5hkRY&index=3





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Re: Talk about a favorite band that hardly anyone here knows about
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2022, 09:03:57 AM »
OP: Thanks for the suggestions. Great music. I feel a very strong Mostly Autumn vibe in that music.

As for my suggestions, mainly two prog-rock bands.

Soup (For all PT fans here, I strongly recommend. I discovered them after PT, but TBH I now prefer their music):

The roots are decaying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_VR2xWL41Y
Northern patriarch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM97JZRw5ww
Going somewhere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKpNALJM404
Surrounded by ghosts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSf26tuJWSg
Clandestine eyes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M45xxUv47Os

Also, if you like Soup, you should check the singer's side project Giant Sky (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTSVyWEXFmY)

Innerspace: Second one is from the city where I live and their music has a very strong Pink Floyd influence :

In Motion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXsg1ByJkUg
Tree of Life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20vlmT0XFVY&list=PLJdP6kZNQvK1G74grgfZEv3ERCXq5hkRY&index=2
The other side: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB8BKd6PEKM&list=PLJdP6kZNQvK1G74grgfZEv3ERCXq5hkRY&index=3

Giant Sky are awesome. Their record last year is fantastic. Although I wanted to pickup the vinyl, it was a bit too pricey to import.

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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2022, 09:16:44 AM »
One of my favorite bands the past couple of years has been the Michigan shoegaze band Greet Death. I've sent them in a few roulettes but so far I seem to be the only one here who's actually sold on them, which is a shame because there's lots of stuff to love about them, so long as you can stomach incredibly pessimistic and dejected lyrics (they're from the Midwest, who can blame them).

Another Greet Death fan reporting in! Really liked their album (especially the 2 long songs) and also digging the new EP (especially I Hate Everything). Hoping they keep producing good music and it's not one of those 'has a great album and then fades' situations. :p

Hell yeah! I'm hoping they drop a new album sometime soon too. When I saw them live earlier this year they played a song that wasn't released on anything (including the then-unreleased New Low).

Definitely check out their first album Dixieland if you haven't already, it's not as great as New Hell but it has some real highlights.
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2022, 01:32:32 PM »
OP: Thanks for the suggestions. Great music. I feel a very strong Mostly Autumn vibe in that music.

Yeah, that's not a comparison I'd thought of, but totally makes sense on reflection.  Maybe Mostly Autumn + Tool.  They're challenging to pitch because any particular audience is not going to find quite enough of any given element they're looking for to satisfy them, so they have to draw more from people like me who have a wider range of interests, but their obscurity means they've not found nearly enough of those.  In retrospection I may have selected an imbalance of more of their darker, metallic side for samples, neglecting their prettier facets, but Mostly Autumn as a comparison helps with that.  I've had a long-running fear that Metal-Archives is one day going to realize their mistake and yank them when they see that metal is only one component of their sound, because they do have a nice compilation of information about them that I'd hate to see vanish.  Prog-Archives doesn't have as much and in their limited review selection pool were sadly only mildly enthused. 
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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2022, 05:33:23 PM »
This should give us a chance to promote a band that seems to be off the radar on this forum.

Mine is Kingfisher Sky. 


Litho, thanks for the rec!! I'd never heard of them.

Started with the debut...only one listen, but color me impressed. Really enjoyed it.