NHL 2022-2023: FA July 13th - LET IT BEGIN

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TAC

Quote from: KevShmev on May 30, 2023, 02:41:06 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 30, 2023, 08:25:42 AM
The Bruins made damn sure I had no conflicts for my Helloween show.

Did you send them a thank you card? :P

I asked Bruce Cassidy to deliver it!
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

Stadler

Quote from: TAC on May 30, 2023, 02:50:47 PM
Quote from: KevShmev on May 30, 2023, 02:41:06 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 30, 2023, 08:25:42 AM
The Bruins made damn sure I had no conflicts for my Helloween show.

Did you send them a thank you card? :P

I asked Bruce Cassidy to deliver it!

It's Butch Cassidy, isn't it?  :) :) :)

KevShmev

Quote from: KevShmev on May 24, 2023, 07:51:19 PM
Carolina probably deserved a better fate than being swept, but deserve's got nothing to do with it.  There is no stopping the Panthers.

Where is the option to delete a post? :P


jingle.boy

The time off off obviously killed Bobs' mojo.
Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

gmillerdrake

Yep. The way they were playing was tied to being on the heater of all heaters. They were just rolling.

Quote from: gmillerdrake on May 26, 2023, 12:36:36 PM
....Florida waiting until 6/3 to play again only benefits the Knights. I don't see how Florida sitting around and not continuing to ride that momentum while it's fresh helps them at all.


TAC

Quote from: jingle.boy on June 05, 2023, 08:14:26 PM
The time off off obviously killed Bobs' mojo.

Yeah, he's not the same in this series.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

Stadler

Neither is the rest of the team, though.  They've walked the line between being aggressive bullies and being a sloppy, penalty-ridden team for most of the playoffs so far, and in this series, they've crossed the line.  Vegas is chewing up and spitting out the Panthers' penalty kill.   Gudas is not himself (even before the big hit to the head) and that hasn't helped either.  Finally, Tkachuk has seemingly come back to earth as well.

Not calling this yet, though.  Panthers have a whole lot of "do not quit" in them.  The wild card is, it's sometimes hard to "refind" your mojo, and Vegas is playing good, fundamental hockey. I hate them, but man is that fun to watch.

KevShmev

Tkachuck getting a misconduct was ridiculous. That was a good clean hit, shoulder to shoulder on the guy with possession of the puck.  Not like that affected the outcome, but what a bogus call.

Luoto

Quote from: KevShmev on June 06, 2023, 05:05:51 AM
Tkachuk getting a misconduct was ridiculous. That was a good clean hit, shoulder to shoulder on the guy with possession of the puck.

He didn't get a misconduct for the hit, I assume it was for grabbing Pietrangelo from behind as a third party in the following scrum. I don't even think the hit was technically clean per the rulebook, but charges just don't get called the same in the playoffs like they do in the regular season.

gmillerdrake

Quote from: KevShmev on June 06, 2023, 05:05:51 AM
Tkachuck getting a misconduct was ridiculous. That was a good clean hit, shoulder to shoulder on the guy with possession of the puck.  Not like that affected the outcome, but what a bogus call.

Yep. Clean and appropriate. Can't skate through the middle of the ice with your head down and not expect to get hit. Eichel's a little bitch anyway. I'm good with Vegas winning the cup....but it sucks he's gonna get it. Total D Bag pre-Madonna

Nick

At this point I'm just hoping Florida wins 1 game. I'll be at a show Saturday night during game 4.

Anguyen92

#1796
Been reading around that there's a big trade coming that includes Flyers, Blue Jackets, and Kings.

Flyers are looking to trade Provorov to Columbus.  Blue Jackets are looking to give up the 1st round that they got from the Kings and a 2nd, the Kings are looking to give up a 2nd round pick, prospect Helge Grans, retain 30% of Provorov, and trade Petersen and Walker to Philly as well.

The fact that they got to trade a prospect, a 2nd, retain salary to move away from Petersen and Walker, which hasn't been optimal contracts as of late, in order to clear space to sign guys like Vilardi and Gavrikov makes me a bit anxious.

All right, I think now it is official.  At least, the Kings got some stuff back rather than trade a lot of stuff to gain space.  Not impactful stuff, but depth to play around.

https://twitter.com/LAKings/status/1666165771184078851?t=TW15WMu4q1z29-hbEdla4w&s=19



pg1067

So...the Kings get out from under the Petersen and Walker contracts (collectively $7.65M for 2023-24 and $5M for 2024-25) and receive a couple of nobodys and have to shoulder 30% of the cap hit of a guy scheduled to earn $6.75M in 2023-24 and 2024-25 (so a smidge over $2M per year) - a net gain of $4.15M and $3M in cap space for the next two seasons (including the combined $1.5M in salary for Hodgson and Connauton in 2023-24)?

Sounds good to me!  Too bad the Kings will still be taking cap hits for Mike Richards for the next SIX seasons!

Nick

The Bri-era (TM) is off to a great start in Philly with that trade. Got more than expected for a defenseman who hasn't done much for three seasons, and did so by taking on bad contracts for two years thus fully acknowledging Philly's position as rebuilding. AND he made the Kings retain salary meaning the Flyers can still retain on up to three contracts (which will be two once Hayes is traded) giving them more flexibility with that going forward.

Anguyen92

All right, officially official.  Vladislav Gavrikov has re-sign with the Kings for $5.875M AAV for two years.

https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1666499022889050116

Gives the Kings only $7.3M to re-sign Vilardi, a goalie, maybe one more depth RFA forward, and bring up one of Jordan Spence and Brandt Clarke.  Should be doable, but I don't think they got much deadline space if they want to add.


TAC

Don't most leagues hold back news like this during the Finals? There's no moratorium?
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

Nick

Quote from: TAC on June 07, 2023, 12:34:18 PM
Don't most leagues hold back news like this during the Finals? There's no moratorium?

What? I mean they could theoretically negotiate with the NHLPA that trades/signings are on pause for the finals, but there is no way to just ban *everyone* from reporting a thing that has happened.

gmillerdrake

Wish granted

Darren Pang leaving the Blues broadcast team for Chicago.  :metal
He's a great color guy and all around good guy but 10 years of his schtick gets old. Looking forward to a fresh start and not hearing Holy Jumpin 19 times a game

pg1067

Quote from: gmillerdrake on June 07, 2023, 12:59:30 PM
Wish granted

Darren Pang leaving the Blues broadcast team for Chicago.  :metal
He's a great color guy and all around good guy but 10 years of his schtick gets old. Looking forward to a fresh start and not hearing Holy Jumpin 19 times a game

On a similar note, Alex Faust was cut loose as the Kings PBP guy - apparently something to do with whatever is going on with Bally's.  Seems like they'll be doing a simulcast with Nick Nickson handling PBP and both Jim Fox and Daryl Evans doing commentary.

TAC

Quote from: Nick on June 07, 2023, 12:48:14 PM
Quote from: TAC on June 07, 2023, 12:34:18 PM
Don't most leagues hold back news like this during the Finals? There's no moratorium?

What? I mean they could theoretically negotiate with the NHLPA that trades/signings are on pause for the finals, but there is no way to just ban *everyone* from reporting a thing that has happened.

I just thought the Finals was a no news or no announcement period.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

KevShmev

Quote from: gmillerdrake on June 07, 2023, 12:59:30 PM
Wish granted

Darren Pang leaving the Blues broadcast team for Chicago.  :metal
He's a great color guy and all around good guy but 10 years of his schtick gets old. Looking forward to a fresh start and not hearing Holy Jumpin 19 times a game

Is this your way of asking everyone here who has your number to not text you "HOLY JUMPIN'!" every time the Blues score a goal going forward? :P :P

gmillerdrake

Quote from: KevShmev on June 07, 2023, 05:12:09 PM
Quote from: gmillerdrake on June 07, 2023, 12:59:30 PM
Wish granted

Darren Pang leaving the Blues broadcast team for Chicago.  :metal
He's a great color guy and all around good guy but 10 years of his schtick gets old. Looking forward to a fresh start and not hearing Holy Jumpin 19 times a game

Is this your way of asking everyone here who has your number to not text you "HOLY JUMPIN'!" every time the Blues score a goal going forward? :P :P

Yes. Please no. Let's not forget "like you read about"......that was uttered a million times as well. And poor Binnington.....he lost his world #1 fan. According to Pang Binnington hasn't let up a goal that was his fault since.....well.....ever.

KevShmev

Quote from: gmillerdrake on June 07, 2023, 05:16:43 PM
Quote from: KevShmev on June 07, 2023, 05:12:09 PM
Quote from: gmillerdrake on June 07, 2023, 12:59:30 PM
Wish granted

Darren Pang leaving the Blues broadcast team for Chicago.  :metal
He's a great color guy and all around good guy but 10 years of his schtick gets old. Looking forward to a fresh start and not hearing Holy Jumpin 19 times a game

Is this your way of asking everyone here who has your number to not text you "HOLY JUMPIN'!" every time the Blues score a goal going forward? :P :P

Yes. Please no. Let's not forget "like you read about"......that was uttered a million times as well. And poor Binnington.....he lost his world #1 fan. According to Pang Binnington hasn't let up a goal that was his fault since.....well.....ever.

Haha, I kid. I would never do it, I swear.

As an ex-goalie, I don't hold it against Panger for wanting to show support for the goalies.  Binnington will be out of the league in a few years anyway (I give it three years), so it won't matter for long.

TAC

I would take Panger in a trade for Jack Edwards.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

gmillerdrake

Quote from: TAC on June 07, 2023, 05:26:41 PM
I would take Panger in a trade for Jack Edwards.

We have a good one waiting in the wings. Retired defenseman Jamie Rivers has filled in for Pang a lot and has done well. Pretty sure they were grooming him for the spot.

jingle.boy

Quote from: KevShmev on June 07, 2023, 05:12:09 PM
Quote from: gmillerdrake on June 07, 2023, 12:59:30 PM
Wish granted

Darren Pang leaving the Blues broadcast team for Chicago.  :metal
He's a great color guy and all around good guy but 10 years of his schtick gets old. Looking forward to a fresh start and not hearing Holy Jumpin 19 times a game

Is this your way of asking everyone here who has your number to not text you "HOLY JUMPIN'!" every time the Blues score a goal going forward? :P :P

Challenge accepted!
Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

Stadler

Quote from: jingle.boy on June 07, 2023, 06:39:24 PM
Quote from: KevShmev on June 07, 2023, 05:12:09 PM
Quote from: gmillerdrake on June 07, 2023, 12:59:30 PM
Wish granted

Darren Pang leaving the Blues broadcast team for Chicago.  :metal
He's a great color guy and all around good guy but 10 years of his schtick gets old. Looking forward to a fresh start and not hearing Holy Jumpin 19 times a game

Is this your way of asking everyone here who has your number to not text you "HOLY JUMPIN'!" every time the Blues score a goal going forward? :P :P

Challenge accepted!

I didn't wait.  :)

KevShmev

What a garbage call at the end of regulation.  A Golden Knight trips over his own skate and they call a penalty on Florida, which will give Vegas nearly two minutes of a PP on fresh ice to start overtime.  This reminds me of my brother always says: great sport, garbage league.

gmillerdrake

Nice work Florida. Way to make it a series.

KevShmev

Glad to see that stupid call wasn't the difference.

And now we got a series again.

pg1067

My son was ecstatic - no because he likes the Knights, but because he's going to Vegas next Thursday through the following Monday, and VGK in 5 would mean a decent chance of a parade while he's there.   :lol

Glad to see the Panthers pull it out.  Series doesn't start until a home team loses, so....  I'm quite amused how one penalty call translates to "garbage league."  I didn't see it, but even if it was a bad call, that's crazy hyperbole.

KevShmev

Well, I didn't say that one penalty call translated to a garbage league. The garbage league is meant more on a macro level.  See: the "fix" that got the Hawks the number 1 pick. :P :P

Nick

Quote from: KevShmev on June 09, 2023, 08:59:40 AM
Well, I didn't say that one penalty call translated to a garbage league. The garbage league is meant more on a macro level.  See: the "fix" that got the Hawks the number 1 pick. :P :P

I hate to defend the NHL, which has plenty of issues and things I don't agree with, but would you care to provide some actual other reasons the league is garbage?

No league is perfect, but generally it's miles ahead of at least MLB at least.

jingle.boy

I saw a replay, and at first, I can understand how it could be seen as a BS call.  Upon seeing the replay, it's clear the Panthers player (I think it was Forsling) slightly clipped toes with the Vegas player, which in turn negated a potential 2-on-1 inside the blue line.  It was completely accidental; the call could've gone either way, and either could be seen as the 'right' call (depending on which team you're a fan of ;))
Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

KevShmev

Quote from: Nick on June 09, 2023, 09:04:02 AM
Quote from: KevShmev on June 09, 2023, 08:59:40 AM
Well, I didn't say that one penalty call translated to a garbage league. The garbage league is meant more on a macro level.  See: the "fix" that got the Hawks the number 1 pick. :P :P

I hate to defend the NHL, which has plenty of issues and things I don't agree with, but would you care to provide some actual other reasons the league is garbage?

No league is perfect, but generally it's miles ahead of at least MLB at least.

For the record, I did say that my brother said it is a garbage league, and that call reminded me of why he says that, but I will unpack this more a bit later after the (slow) work day is finished.