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Offline Unknown-Comic

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Random bits and what nots
« on: April 19, 2022, 06:40:29 PM »
I figured I would share what popped out of my head today when I created my first thread here.  Blame thinking of DT songs in general, as I cannot say exactly what triggered it other than a few key words. I figured its a nice share, and interesting thought once you slightly change one line. First half is about human life, the second half is machines for life, not necessarily human.  Who knows what other things I may share, as I am random with thoughts.

The beginning and end, revolving
The living dead, go on evolving

Dreaming beyond the finite
Disregarding what is right

Grasping at the possibility
For life, without an ending
Choosing our humanity
Over a light so blinding

Staring into infinity

The beginning and end, revolving
The machines go on evolving

Dreaming beyond the finite
Disregarding what is right

Grasping at the possibility
For life, without an ending
Choosing our humanity
Over a light so blinding

Staring into infinity

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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2022, 05:44:22 AM »
Just about every day a flash of thought is born and dies in an instant. Writing them down captures it before its lost completely. Some use drugs to capture or escape the moment, while I do both without any need.  Problem is writing them down before their gone.

This some how captures the last 2 years.

How bad is bad
When it don't effect me
How mad is mad
As it tries to infect me

Impossible to distance others from me
When hypocrites line up, to dissect me

Everything has it's connection
Entangled by their direction

As it pulls us apart

Escaping reality, an impossibility
When trapped in this monstrosity

How sad is sad
When no tears come from me
How mad is mad
When others surround me

Escaping reality, an impossibility
When trapped in this monstrosity
Everything has it's connection
Entangled by their direction

As it pulls us apart

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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2022, 06:21:19 AM »
So, is this a poetry thread? A place reserved for your private thoughts? A replacement for a lost livejournal account? Are you looking for feedback?  ???

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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2022, 07:24:33 AM »
My cat's breath smells like cat food.
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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2022, 07:26:08 AM »
Are you related to Ben Jammin?
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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2022, 07:29:03 AM »
Just about every day a flash of thought is born and dies in an instant. Writing them down captures it before its lost completely. Some use drugs to capture or escape the moment, while I do both without any need.  Problem is writing them down before their gone.

This some how captures the last 2 years.

How bad is bad
When it don't effect me
How mad is mad
As it tries to infect me

Impossible to distance others from me
When hypocrites line up, to dissect me

Everything has it's connection
Entangled by their direction

As it pulls us apart

Escaping reality, an impossibility
When trapped in this monstrosity

How sad is sad
When no tears come from me
How mad is mad
When others surround me

Escaping reality, an impossibility
When trapped in this monstrosity
Everything has it's connection
Entangled by their direction

As it pulls us apart

Perhaps lay off those drugs mate.  ;D
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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2022, 07:29:24 AM »
Are you related to Ben Jammin?

 :rollin
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2022, 08:14:05 AM »
Are you related to Ben Jammin?
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 :rollin

Nope, haven't got a clue.  If I share something its from the top of my head. Mostly misspelled or ill formated, as I find hand held tech problematic to speeds accuracy. My internal metronome is 1/4 time. Writing slows me down enough, only to get hit by a fast moving truck when crossing streets. Thus not many discussions I will drop in on. Consider what I share is for others entertainment purposes.  My thoughts are triggered, so who knows what will conjour when I pop in and read. Thus, my thread, as its the only thread I can add to without feeling lost. 

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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2022, 08:19:44 AM »
Are you related to Ben Jammin?

 :rollin

If I share something its from the top of my head. Mostly misspelled or ill formated, as I find hand held tech problematic to speeds accuracy.

I think the better question is..are you related to Kingshmegland?
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2022, 08:21:25 AM »
So, is this a poetry thread? A place reserved for your private thoughts? A replacement for a lost livejournal account? Are you looking for feedback?  ???

Not really... though there are segments of sorts. I am new and trying to wear a new shoe so to speak. Not socially inept to just jump in to others threads. So this one is my breaking through thread. Bits and what nots, meaning anything can pop in at any time.

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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2022, 08:22:44 AM »
Are you related to Ben Jammin?

 :rollin

If I share something its from the top of my head. Mostly misspelled or ill formated, as I find hand held tech problematic to speeds accuracy.

I think the better question is..are you related to Kingshmegland?

 :lol
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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2022, 08:24:10 AM »
My cat's breath smells like cat food.

Ha! Well it can be worse... not going there, I am not masochist humorist. Nothing against you, but you never know who may read. Ha!

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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2022, 08:27:08 AM »
My cat's breath smells like cat food.

Ha! Well it can be worse... not going there, I am not masochist humorist. Nothing against you, but you never know who may read. Ha!

 :facepalm: :lol

It's just a Simpson's reference dude.  :lol

You seem like a hoot, post more.
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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2022, 08:28:16 AM »
Are you related to Ben Jammin?

 :rollin

If I share something its from the top of my head. Mostly misspelled or ill formated, as I find hand held tech problematic to speeds accuracy.

I think the better question is..are you related to Kingshmegland?

Sorry I am not Scandinavian, so no I am not related in any way.  Ha!


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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2022, 08:35:56 AM »
My cat's breath smells like cat food.

Ha! Well it can be worse... not going there, I am not masochist humorist. Nothing against you, but you never know who may read. Ha!

 :facepalm: :lol

It's just a Simpson's reference dude.  :lol

You seem like a hoot, post more.

Ah,  to be honest... most references can throw me a loop. Thus my quietness around people in general. Stuff like that needs some trigger effect, to release them.  Example if someone out of the blue asked me for the lyrics to images and words, i would not be able to start or correctly give any line. But when the song is played think of every word on que.  Same with music. When I played I sounded lousy until the band played.  Not that they covered my ass, just could not keep my brain in sync.  Oddly like stutters that must sing words to keep from stuttering.  Unlike others who dive into looking at modern labeling to hide behind for identification for a condition, I prefer just to think its just me.  I am sure someone will have a label for it. Ha! 

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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2022, 08:39:42 AM »
Just about every day a flash of thought is born and dies in an instant. Writing them down captures it before its lost completely. Some use drugs to capture or escape the moment, while I do both without any need.  Problem is writing them down before their gone.

This some how captures the last 2 years.

How bad is bad
When it don't effect me
How mad is mad
As it tries to infect me

Impossible to distance others from me
When hypocrites line up, to dissect me

Everything has it's connection
Entangled by their direction

As it pulls us apart

Escaping reality, an impossibility
When trapped in this monstrosity

How sad is sad
When no tears come from me
How mad is mad
When others surround me

Escaping reality, an impossibility
When trapped in this monstrosity
Everything has it's connection
Entangled by their direction

As it pulls us apart

Perhaps lay off those drugs mate.  ;D

What drugs are we talking about here?  Happy 4/20  :lol

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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2022, 08:53:01 AM »
Just about every day a flash of thought is born and dies in an instant. Writing them down captures it before its lost completely. Some use drugs to capture or escape the moment, while I do both without any need.  Problem is writing them down before their gone.

This some how captures the last 2 years.

How bad is bad
When it don't effect me
How mad is mad
As it tries to infect me

Impossible to distance others from me
When hypocrites line up, to dissect me

Everything has it's connection
Entangled by their direction

As it pulls us apart

Escaping reality, an impossibility
When trapped in this monstrosity

How sad is sad
When no tears come from me
How mad is mad
When others surround me

Escaping reality, an impossibility
When trapped in this monstrosity
Everything has it's connection
Entangled by their direction

As it pulls us apart

Perhaps lay off those drugs mate.  ;D

What drugs are we talking about here?  Happy 4/20  :lol
  ha!  Actually morning half awake mode.  Things tend to stick longer.

Here this popped up while ai tired to answer the flood of replies.  My brain hurts from it. So , until I am capable this will be all for today. 

Traveling about, I find myself lost amungst round abouts and dead ends.
In conversation I end up stopping for no apparent reason. Thinking there must be an end, as I have contemplated everything when it had started.

So I write to layout a map of thoughts. To cover every direction. Loosing all that follow in the royal round about.  Thinking is there any end.

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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2022, 09:07:28 AM »
Are you Jim Morrison reincarnated?


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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2022, 09:09:02 AM »
Are you Jim Morrison reincarnated?

Jim Morrison was a fucking blowhard. This guy hasn't yet proven to be.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2022, 09:11:15 AM »
I'm still thinking that King and Ben had a child somehow.
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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2022, 11:04:13 AM »
Are you Jim Morrison reincarnated?

Ha!  More like Kurt Cobain.  In that too many people or too much recognition destroys me.  Had to pop in for just a bit.  Too much  for me, as a I'm not one for group gatherings. I am the one who stand behind the plants more than take the center floor.  Because its difficult I move in and out of forums. Not many, just easier to manage.  I figured my opening story has its odd place here, more than being locked away, with the rest of my menagerie of oddities.

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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2022, 11:07:11 AM »
Are you Jim Morrison reincarnated?

Jim Morrison was a fucking blowhard. This guy hasn't yet proven to be.

Maybe Morrisey or Nick Cave on a bad night of too much Nyquil. Ha!

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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2022, 11:13:08 AM »
I'm still thinking that King and Ben had a child somehow.

Is it possible to misspell a smoke signal?
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2022, 11:13:49 AM »
 :corn :corn

I'm still thinking that King and Ben had a child somehow.

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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2022, 12:20:46 PM »
I'm still thinking that King and Ben had a child somehow.

Is it possible to misspell a smoke signal?

Once I tried to send a smoke signal for help and ended up burning down a national forest... I think everyone misunderstood the signal.  All I needed was a tow, not a freaking air tanker!

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« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2022, 04:06:25 PM »
Are you Jim Morrison reincarnated?

Ha!  More like Kurt Cobain.  In that too many people or too much recognition destroys me.  Had to pop in for just a bit.  Too much  for me, as a I'm not one for group gatherings. I am the one who stand behind the plants more than take the center floor.  Because its difficult I move in and out of forums. Not many, just easier to manage.  I figured my opening story has its odd place here, more than being locked away, with the rest of my menagerie of oddities.

Dude, I get this and can relate 110%.
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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2022, 05:22:06 PM »
Yeah, there are more of us out there... coming from a writers site, I have been fighting the feeling of too many around me. If they did not count reads and have anyone comment, it would be easier on me. At first hardly anyone but a few would read. Now, I have thousands and noticed some of my writings have been growing in sharing with others. Thus my move to here and put a thought or two.  The other forums I frequent are techie, simple question answer stuff.  Its when I start explaining beyond topic it either goes over their heads or gets discounted as novice guess work. I have been told some are jealous and are snippy. Doesn't't bother me as much as so many that seem to watch my thoughts  more than I care. I know they are public but, seems with forum its different.  You expect google hits to pull up what ever. Its gone to me going out of my way to discourage them reading, by mockery of all in various ways. Yet more read. I want to believe Corona has made more read than ever.  Don't know, i feel like the song DT misunderstood, which is fairly easy to understand lyrics being sung.  Just use to my own world of the not many.  Gosh, like what I wrote earlier... a bit of everything in a round about with no ending. Ha!

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« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2022, 05:40:44 PM »
My poor brain with so many all at once. Not that a hand full has blown my circuits, just to put it simple, my brain has no focus, unless triggered.  I can seem to focus but it is around 35% brain power.  I notice too much at once and can't isolate from distraction. Growing up I was exhausted by 8.00pm until College. Mostly because class and everything around me had my brain running 100% trying to focus on class work and other things.  That is why I can't work with others, in having my brain feel distracted at random occurances.  Nothing wrong with replies and questions, just I'll pop in and out to keep my own sanity so to speak.

In the mean time, here is my funny short non fiction story of house ownership. Mostly I have not been up to humor writing as much as I had been before Corona, this may suffice for the time being. There is a part 2, but I feel it would be mocked as a bloody novel. Ha! Boring one too many into coma, and making me the 1st ever to be banned for being a detriment to society.

Oddly true...

Through the years of home ownership, our houses becomes possessed.
Strange as it is... nothing seems at it seems.
Toilets that fail to flush.
Sump pumps that fail to pump in a heavy rain.
Roofs become aged before your eyes
Everything flows outside of its drain.
Gremlins lurking, and swapping wires, chomping on Internet cables
Our garden goats eating grass clean to the root.
Electronic thermostats go wonky after a battery replacement.
Fan motors burn out and squeal violently.
Cement reinforced parkway's crack and become craggy crumbles every 3 to 4 years.

If you have ever read Henry Rollins' 'Smile You're Traveling' book... this is just as fun (minus most of the swearing... boo, hiss, bloody hell), or not so fun depending on which side of the fence you stand... beware toilets may cause trouble if you are too close to the fence.


After the first 5 years...

The air conditioning won't cool, and it's our first 90° F day... emergency call to a repair man. Nice man in general... quickly looks at our compressor. No issues... so he looks at our thermostat. I told him a new battery was just in stalled. No problem... pops the top and pushes a reset button. Bam air conditioning functional.  He recommends replacement if it happens again.

I started noticing more often a heating and air conditioning repair man stopping by all over our housing complex through the months and on through the years. Our first warning.

Well, I would be on the Internet at the time, but our garden goats (a team of hired grounds keepers) decided to trim around our side pathways between the houses. The chopped our telco wires with some weed eater from hell! Yep, cut them clean through.

By the way... them garden goats will take all day to cut around our block. Not that bad, but the noise can be very annoying, as they seem to congregate around our house. Back and forth and around. One after another. Blower, lawn cutter, weed cutter, and use the blower once more... like go away, nothing is left to cut or blow. Keep it up and you'll hit bed rock! Stop, God please stop!

Also them garden goats will cut grass in the rain or soon after... who in their right mind cuts grass in the freaking rain! Crimey!

We put up with DSL, for a bit longer until out satellite TV subscription was done. On to cable internet.  Nope, not going to happen. No Internet for you!

Them goats, had chopped our underground tv cable from the last event, that had gone unnoticed, until found. No problem our cable provider fixed it in a few days. Though Internet would drop off time to time. The bloody switch, which we were connected to, was bloody taxed. Not enough band width and cross talk, with signal leakage. Fixed until... the next update which happend a few years later. No problem, I took matters on my own, fixed the issue by adding attenuators to bring our overly high signal strength to a normal level.

Oh not to mention the parade of the toilets along our streets. Every once and a while, a toilet would be released to the wild.  Part of our nature loving neighborhood.  Eventually the toilet will move on and live free, where they can thrive in a natural invironment on their own.

If your lucky you can spot up to 3 of those things scattered along our housing site. You may want to bring a camera, for recording the sightings. As it has become rarer now to see just one, these days.

One year we had a heavy rain... which brought in an onslaught of plumbers and repair crews. From faulty sump pumps in basements. Ours was not faulty one bit... it became an indoor fountain.  Water being pumped 4 feet above the pipe. The seal to the out bound pipe blew out at the one way valve.

No problem our plumber was so busy, he saw the issue and temporarily fixed the pipe, by rerouting it to the sewer, not the gutter piping. Some how the exit pipe got sealed shut.  No problem to the fix and left a card to fix at a later time.

Then later on, a garage door spring broke... which was not much of an issue. Until 4 years later... pop the other failed. Moral of the story, tell your repair man to replace both at the same time, or it can double by the service call costs.

Late in the year at the start of winter snow... 19° F weather outside, our heater fails when wife was just released from hospital. I turned on the heater, and within minutes the vents started smoking, and odd noise then nothing. So emergency fix was needed. Had the motor replaced, and set our fans to say stay on, instead of being used only when needed. Keeps the fan from wear and tear, and if it fails again, odds are it won't fail, when really needed. Been running ever since.

For no apparent reason our house's roofs started looking tattered, all rolled edged with some shingles completely missing. These Roofs have a 25 year life cycle... Lucky for us our house was completed almost 2 years after the ones first built. So nothing noticable for now... until another 5 years... time to replace. Found out in 2000 the shingle manufacturer went belly up. Just as you guessed it, for their wonderful product.

After the 2nd attempt to replace our crumbled cement drive, a new neighbor, decides to have our shared lawn replaced with landscaping.  Yes our lawns were in tatters from our wonderful garden goats. Eating the tops right down to the roots. It was nice... our neighbor would go around and meticulously pick wee weeds and mushrooms that would pop up randomly. Also cut and watered the lawn himself. Our garden goats were told not to touch our lawn. At one time google maps showed our lawn as the greenest lawn for a full 1 mile radius. We could have owned a best lawn award if 'Homes and Gardens' knew of us. It did not last long... he moved away a few months down the road. Now it looks pretty much the same as everyone elses.

Another attempt at fixing our ever crumbling cement drive... for a 3rd time, and will need another fix, as it's cracking and separating very well now, mind you.

Well our garden goats had another fine idea, they decided to airate our lawn. This time used extra deep plug depths. Which cut all our connections below the sod depth, to our house. Great no phone, and no cable. We were not the only ones. A smattering of houses were effected.

What was really wonderful, was soon after discovery, I looked at the lawn to see our cable ripped out and laying out in the open, when it was to be under the sod. Also the sod had been cleanly cut and piled  as if someone was going to plant a tree.  After showing our neighbor, he said take a picture... never happened, as I had been busy with contacting the proper people to fix the cables. By the time I got around to taking the pictures, the bloody goat quietly repaired the evidence. Broken wire buried under sod. Like let's see it grow into a nice shrub. Bloody numpty! I can imagine, stopping the bugger and confronting him. No I will not explain my thoughts on that one. All I can say that wire will be buried deep in his...

For a short time, our neighborhood had toppling mailboxs. The posts world rot below ground. So as you guessed, random mail box topplings.

Which brings up our latest episode... I need to explain our rubbish bin mishap of December. We had high winds which blew bins over and slid them across to jumble up. Some how ours got nicked by our neighbor, accross the street.  I was left with a much larger bin from our recently moved neighbor's house.  I used it temporarily, until our bin showed up next door. Don't know what it was up to, it was like a teen aged daughter showing up late in the morn after a night out. Won't tell you where she went, and gets put away in he room, silent.

Anywho, the other bin was returned, and safe and sound.

Today... rubish pickup was freaking amazing! I pulled out to do my errands, and noticed our mail box was missing. Gone! I got out of my car and noticed the mail box on the ground, along with the mail box post light up topper.

Obviously the automated bin picker grabbed our mail box and ripped it off the post. So I got our new mail box installed, along with our neighbors which shares our post. They stopped after pulling out their car, so I explained what had happened. Was given new box that they had for a replacement. Yep you guessed it, that will be the next thing to be in the neighborhood's replacement list, as the mailboxes are getting tatty looking with rust and worn hinges.

Another thing... the neighbors that moved out... they were a bunch of rednecks.  They would sit in their garage and face our house, as if there was of any interest.  Nothing like a past neighbor who lived a block behind us.  We called him the drug lord. Odd things going on in front of his house.  Midnight ambulance,  and one morning some guy was tossing ornamental rocks from our beloved mail box posts, at the top floor bedroom window. We expected him to break the glass, but he didn't.  It took about 10 tosses to get the guy out of bed. Ha!  We use our second bedroom as a TV room, which you cannot miss the neighbor's house a block behind us.

Back to the rednecks... one night a storm happened, which had high winds blowing over our house, and being facing us, our house was a wind break. So they were happIy sitting in the garage while lightning and rain was blowing away, launching rockets directly over our house.  Exploding over our house. At first I thought it was the storm, but after 4 of them things I got a clue.These were them expensive rockets so the power in them could do some damage, on our newly replaced roof. I was going to give him a telling, but by the time I got dressed for going out side, they launched their remaining rockets. The midwest, loves fireworks. In fact on the border of Indiana has the world's largest firework warehouse,  open all year around.  So lucky us they spent their life savings on their up in smoke fireworks, as that was pretty much it after that.

Well now that we are well settled in, no other evil instances have a plagued us... but you'll never know.

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Re: Random bits and what nots
« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2022, 05:26:39 AM »
Just a thought today. I did not go too deep, but as with most thoughts I generalize.

Have we become a society of victims?  Politically it seems a one sided point. Each of every segment, fighting for redemption. It's so blinding, that details are only seen when placed in our face.  Some, I have found, before Corona, were just the same victims as we see them today. Yet, why so much emphasis on being a victim? Do they think someone will listen, or has the Corona straw broke the camel's back?  For what ever reasons lay, feeling like a victim seems to stay, no matter how much is done to resolve.  No amount of money, or change will remove the feeling of being a victim... it's only those who are able to break free, and shrug it off, that can walk away from it.  All I see now, is many victims, clinging on to being the victimized, as a security blanket.  Not willing to release the remainders of what they have kept as part of their existence. We are all victims, clamoring over each other. Fighting for a fair share of retribution when everything is unequal, makes all victims unequal, up into extreme levels. In becoming the perpetual, when those victim's hunger is insatiable. To ignore and walk away, makes us a perpetrator, but to give into a victims demands, allows to be victimized.  Either emotionally, or placed below the victim, as being at an equal level. The more demonstrative, the greater chance of being rewarded. Eventually reciprocating victimization.  Making the root cause a bit of a virus. Eating away, evolving as it replicates.  In which I see no cure.  I admit I am the creator of my own victimization, in being quiet.  To place myself no higher than anyone else I come across. Many that I have given such respect, end up over stepping.  I think it's more annoying than aggravating, since I come to expect it to be, as it's part of human nature, to overstep in some way, being part of survival of the fittest.

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« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2022, 08:38:47 AM »
Bouncing back from being drained.  Phone support, now these days, they are vampires.  Don't even try online chat support, when in need. Not that they will suck the life out of you, as well... just they are as limited as you are, with issues.

With automation being the only way for assistance, you can be completely at mercy of the automation.  Pressing #, *, 0 or some number not on the options,  may send you to a real person. Unfortunately, you must deal with their knowledge and ability to navigate proper protocols.  Expect a hold, to a prompt disconnect.  Which will start the process all over again. With that, expect at least 1 hour to burn, on top of waiting in the queue. You may find your hour eaten up by disconnects and transfers, with further hold times. You may also find introducing yourself to 10 complete strangers before having a supervisor assist, because someone realized the issue is beyond them.  Requesting a supervisor makes them defensive, as if they must do something, to prove they assisted. To compound the ineffectiveness of support, their ticketing system may not tie in, with your account or phone number, to the particular service you have, if they offer multiple service options. Not good if you have pay as you go and have a warranty issue, when transfered to contract support. All having separate ticketing, you will never have a complete record of contact with your issue.  Which makes the support person as lost as you.  It can get bad, once to are transfered to a support agent you recognize,  from a previous call, especially when you have hung up on them, out of frustration.  Your only saving grace is they forgot, because the call was a more than 36 hours ago. Hopefully being cooled down, your voice is softer, and they have lost a bit of hearing in their ear, since then.  You may find the necessity to hang up and wait a few days, to reset, more often than expected. Consider it normal now, especially when support people are working from home, and you hear kids or tv in background, while being assisted, as they try to multi-task about their house.  You can offer to have them mute the tv or tape the child's mouth shut, and stop doing any house work. But they may hang up on you, making you start all over again, to take it out on the next person who comes in contact.  None the less you have few options to navigate work from home people. They are the most limited and stressed to deal with, and easily make you loose your patience, making any contact with people around you trigger snippy and snide remarks from you.  Take up meditation, have a safe place for your pets/children to go, and have wife/g'friend take a holiday,  if you are prone to issues that require calling phone support. 

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« Reply #30 on: April 21, 2022, 05:51:10 PM »
Just a thought today. I did not go too deep, but as with most thoughts I generalize.

Have we become a society of victims?  Politically it seems a one sided point. Each of every segment, fighting for redemption. It's so blinding, that details are only seen when placed in our face.  Some, I have found, before Corona, were just the same victims as we see them today. Yet, why so much emphasis on being a victim? Do they think someone will listen, or has the Corona straw broke the camel's back?  For what ever reasons lay, feeling like a victim seems to stay, no matter how much is done to resolve.  No amount of money, or change will remove the feeling of being a victim... it's only those who are able to break free, and shrug it off, that can walk away from it.  All I see now, is many victims, clinging on to being the victimized, as a security blanket.  Not willing to release the remainders of what they have kept as part of their existence. We are all victims, clamoring over each other. Fighting for a fair share of retribution when everything is unequal, makes all victims unequal, up into extreme levels. In becoming the perpetual, when those victim's hunger is insatiable. To ignore and walk away, makes us a perpetrator, but to give into a victims demands, allows to be victimized.  Either emotionally, or placed below the victim, as being at an equal level. The more demonstrative, the greater chance of being rewarded. Eventually reciprocating victimization.  Making the root cause a bit of a virus. Eating away, evolving as it replicates.  In which I see no cure.  I admit I am the creator of my own victimization, in being quiet.  To place myself no higher than anyone else I come across. Many that I have given such respect, end up over stepping.  I think it's more annoying than aggravating, since I come to expect it to be, as it's part of human nature, to overstep in some way, being part of survival of the fittest.

I'll bite.  I've written about this many, many times, here on this site.  Being a victim, whether justified or not, absolves you of responsibility.  For some, they truly are victims.  They did nothing when they woke up that morning to encourage their outcomes during the day.  Sometimes that's an overt act of aggression or violence - rape, assault - sometimes that's just a random occurrence of life - say, a tree falls in your yard.   I think the problem we've seen lately (and I am only speaking of America) is the trend of substituting "victim" in for what is really just a sub-optimal outcome of a daily life occurrence.  And that is really a give and take with a massive, societal insecurity that almost demands that we be able to transfer our culpability to someone "accountable".  We're not good at accepting the adage "Man plans, and God laughs".  We're not good at accepting our fate, if our fate isn't consistent with that perfect life on Facechat, or YouToob, or wherever it is we get our fantasy content. 

This isn't a new phenomenon; we've lamented the damage done to women's psyche for years from porn and Hollywood and advertisements; the perfect ideal woman who doesn't exist.  Why is it any different for the family with the kids that don't listen and aren't that smart or good looking being compared to the quippy little intellectuals on TV or from that family down the street's Facegram page?  Hint: it isn't.

And as I said above, we can't face being accountable for our averageness, our ordinariness. We live in a "super", "extreme", "mega" society but when our jobs aren't, it's not us, we're getting f*****d by The MAN!  When our mortgages come to be too much (like Bart referenced in the other thread), it's not our bad financial planning, it's we were conned by The MAN!    We can't even call our own thoughts what they are: opinions; that's not good enough, that's not powerful enough, they have to be our Truths! OUR truths; forget that "truth" is by definition universal. We can't be bound by the laws of syntax or math; we are POWERFUL, we can change it to suit our self image! 

If this sounds cynical, it is, but not without reason.  It's going to ultimately be the end of the American empire, and when Dave Manchester eventually starts posting again regularly (I certainly hope he does) I think he'll have a lot to say about that topic.
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« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2022, 07:14:41 PM »
You covered a facet so to speak. Cynical is another view, in which is some what jaded but direct to the point out root cause.  From the day you are born, you are a victim. Being slapped on the butt, circumcision, peers, soured friendships and so on.  The amount one holds onto being a victim has more weight than confronting and obtaining resolution.  Most find no peace, no matter how much is done. A Charlie Brown syndrome. I see way too many look at themselves negatively because of what they believe from comparison. The other side of the mirror.  We are our own worst enemy.  I wrote a poem a year or so ago, from a trigger moment with CDs and seeing the eye looking at me. I made it for my halloween poem entries.  It explains the dark side everyone has when looking at them selves. Victims of their own mind.

 The Eye

It's an ominous sight
Your attempts to ignore, a fight

In looking, you stare into it
Immediately you lose the gambit

Seeing depth in its darkness
Seeing death in its starkness

You feel its touch, what to do?
Haunted by it seeing through you

Now it's locked on, like radar
You feel it watching, from a far

It's hunger eats away at your mind
In paranoia, your sanity left behind

Trying to hide, you stay inside
Ice cold water to break the slide

Once eyes have cleared
You look in the mirror

What you see what you feared
Your own eye so dark, in tears

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« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2022, 08:46:01 PM »
I'm sorry. Circumcision?  What's that got to do with it?
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2022, 05:17:36 AM »
I'm sorry. Circumcision?  What's that got to do with it?

That seems to be of each person's understanding.  Some parents in the US feel its not a requirement and fear undo stress on baby.  As for me I remember details of child birth and early months of being a baby.  Early in my toddler life, the birth segments that I had remembered, gave quite the horrors with creating nightmares. Not that the subject has made an effect on me, it was more seeing the doctor and nurse in scrubs, with out reached arms, while feeling restrained,  was the most effective at creating long term nightmares.

So the mention is wide on ones thoughts of being a victim. Just knowing you made a choice to effect other person, that is long lasting, can make you a victim of guilt, as well as the person who is effected by it.  I have no issues for my self, but some guys do later in life, when penis and performance, may be of importance. 

Not to make an issue from how I see what can effect a baby in general, just everyone is different by levels of interpretation around them when being victimized. I say half of the victimizers don't see teasing in play an issue (when in the act of teasing is a dominance thing), as it is part of growing up and learning to deal with others.  Being some who are more dominant, may learn how much they can get a way with actions, before someone is hurt by it, and some don't by level of connection to others.  Yet not all understand emotionally what teasing is all about from a personal level.

Example it took years to understand others.  I had no inherent greed, ambition and much social needs, from being partially autistic. If you don't perceive some actions as victimizing, you can still be a victim unknowingly. Which after time of repetitive actions, may pop up once realized what kind of victimization has occured. In some ways its a mater of perspective.  If you live your life thinking about the past, you are a victim of your self, by letting the past control you.

Gosh I think I did a royal round about again, in trying to make many thoughts around a simple question, into what I think covers the angles.  I am sure more can be said.  Not everything I point out is as broad as I want it to be, mostly its what I see as important to get at the core, from my understanding.  If I  thought more like you, per say, I would come off at another angle from different experience that have importance.

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« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2022, 06:12:23 AM »
I'm sorry. Circumcision?  What's that got to do with it?

That seems to be of each person's understanding.  Some parents in the US feel its not a requirement and fear undo stress on baby.  As for me I remember details of child birth and early months of being a baby.  Early in my toddler life, the birth segments that I had remembered, gave quite the horrors with creating nightmares. Not that the subject has made an effect on me, it was more seeing the doctor and nurse in scrubs, with out reached arms, while feeling restrained,  was the most effective at creating long term nightmares.

So the mention is wide on ones thoughts of being a victim. Just knowing you made a choice to effect other person, that is long lasting, can make you a victim of guilt, as well as the person who is effected by it.  I have no issues for my self, but some guys do later in life, when penis and performance, may be of importance. 

Not to make an issue from how I see what can effect a baby in general, just everyone is different by levels of interpretation around them when being victimized. I say half of the victimizers don't see teasing in play an issue (when in the act of teasing is a dominance thing), as it is part of growing up and learning to deal with others.  Being some who are more dominant, may learn how much they can get a way with actions, before someone is hurt by it, and some don't by level of connection to others.  Yet not all understand emotionally what teasing is all about from a personal level.

Example it took years to understand others.  I had no inherent greed, ambition and much social needs, from being partially autistic. If you don't perceive some actions as victimizing, you can still be a victim unknowingly. Which after time of repetitive actions, may pop up once realized what kind of victimization has occured. In some ways its a mater of perspective.  If you live your life thinking about the past, you are a victim of your self, by letting the past control you.

Gosh I think I did a royal round about again, in trying to make many thoughts around a simple question, into what I think covers the angles.  I am sure more can be said.  Not everything I point out is as broad as I want it to be, mostly its what I see as important to get at the core, from my understanding.  If I  thought more like you, per say, I would come off at another angle from different experience that have importance.

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