Mesa, AZ 2/2/2022 - Mesa Arts Center (Setlist Spoilers)

[lonestar]

They better not fuck with count of Tuscany.

They switch out Tuscany with Anna Lee, so on top of missing Tuscany, you get a way shorter show
It's a lesson about how life isn't fair, and it makes people buy more tickets hoping to catch Tuscany at another show

Shush you


Octavarium would be the only acceptable substitute

Lol yeah that previous post of mine was just me joking around
I agree that Octavarium would be the only acceptable substitute, but I think they'd do Octavarium every night if they were gonna bust it out.

I'm pretty sure count will be static, but I am thinking they may rotate out other spots... Hopefully they leave Ministry there too, haven't seen that live either.

[UndercoverMyung]

They better not fuck with count of Tuscany.

They switch out Tuscany with Anna Lee, so on top of missing Tuscany, you get a way shorter show
It's a lesson about how life isn't fair, and it makes people buy more tickets hoping to catch Tuscany at another show

Shush you


Octavarium would be the only acceptable substitute

Lol yeah that previous post of mine was just me joking around
I agree that Octavarium would be the only acceptable substitute, but I think they'd do Octavarium every night if they were gonna bust it out.

I'm pretty sure count will be static, but I am thinking they may rotate out other spots... Hopefully they leave Ministry there too, haven't seen that live either.

I would hate to miss Ministry... love that one and doubt they'll ever play it again tbh

[pg1067]

6:00 >>>>>>>>> Innocence Faded (there's a reason IF has only been played a couple dozen times).

Swapping out TMOLS for The Glass Prison would be all kinds of awesome.

[UndercoverMyung]

Today's show on setlist.fm is way messed up. For a sec it only showed the Alien. Now it's the showing the same as the first night up to Endless Sacrifice but no Alien? Lol. Assuming it's just the same as night one until I see differently from a legit source.

[Laughingplace56]

Today's show on setlist.fm is way messed up. For a sec it only showed the Alien. Now it's the showing the same as the first night up to Endless Sacrifice but no Alien? Lol. Assuming it's just the same as night one until I see differently from a legit source.

The venue's Instagram posted clips of 6:00, ES and AtM so I'm assuming that's why it was updated that way.

[Madman Shepherd]

They better not fuck with count of Tuscany.

They switch out Tuscany with Anna Lee

If they did that I would personally take everybody in this thread out for ice cream.

[UndercoverMyung]

They better not fuck with count of Tuscany.

They switch out Tuscany with Anna Lee

If they did that I would personally take everybody in this thread out for ice cream.

LOL

[UndercoverMyung]

Today's show on setlist.fm is way messed up. For a sec it only showed the Alien. Now it's the showing the same as the first night up to Endless Sacrifice but no Alien? Lol. Assuming it's just the same as night one until I see differently from a legit source.

The venue's Instagram posted clips of 6:00, ES and AtM so I'm assuming that's why it was updated that way.

Ah, gotcha!

[SeRoX]

So, according to setlist.fm the only change is Invisible Monster to Transcending Time.

[UndercoverMyung]

So, according to setlist.fm the only change is Invisible Monster to Transcending Time.

Was going to say this.
Not a surprise IMO. I expected the change to be ATM and SG, IM and TT, or both.

[Ben_Jamin]

I would've gladly pissed my pants for Transcending Time.

That song transitions into About to Crash way better than Invisible Monster.

[nobloodyname]

Swapping out TMOLS for The Glass Prison would be all kinds of awesome.

Agreed. I'd buy a ticket for the Wembley show if that happened. Apart from the brief melodic interlude in Ministry, there's almost nothing special about it.

[UndercoverMyung]

I would've gladly pissed my pants for Transcending Time.

That song transitions into About to Crash way better than Invisible Monster.

Yeah actually I bet the Transcending Time piano outro into the About To Crash piano intro is quite nice.

[UndercoverMyung]

I like IM more than TT by far personally, so I'm glad my show is on a day when IM will be played.

[Ben_Jamin]

I just thought of something. What if the band decided to change one song each night, besides the songs The Alien and A View From The Top of The World, Awaken The Master? That would be 7 different songs they could alternate.

[bosk1]

Next to the title song, Invisible Monster is the one I am looking forward to most, so I would NOT be happy with that change.

[MrMike]

Still leaving out the best two from View.  Okay.

[UndercoverMyung]

Next to the title song, Invisible Monster is the one I am looking forward to most, so I would NOT be happy with that change.

IM is also one of my favorites.
What show(s) are you hitting on this tour? Did you check to see if you'll get IM or TT?

[MrMike]

Next to the title song, Invisible Monster is the one I am looking forward to most, so I would NOT be happy with that change.

Agreed.  I seriously want to see JP playing the IM solo live.  It's like one of my favorite moments on View.

[UndercoverMyung]

I still find it so odd that Sleeping Giant isn't being played.
Maybe next tour...

[UndercoverMyung]

Also: A big fuck you to whoever made a fake setlist.fm that had some really cool changes like Innocence Faded. You surely disappointed some people and caused fake excitement. That's messed up.

[hefdaddy42]

6:00 >>>>>>>>> Innocence Faded (there's a reason IF has only been played a couple dozen times).

The biggest reason is just how damn hard IF is to sing.  I would MUCH rather hear that than 6:00.

[nobloodyname]

Also: A big fuck you to whoever made a fake setlist.fm that had some really cool changes like Innocence Faded. You surely disappointed some people and caused fake excitement. That's messed up.

To state the bleeding obvious, that's exactly why they did it.

There used to be a member here, posting under the same name at Setlist.fm, who would do that, too. Can't remember their username other than I think it had 77 in it.

[gzarruk]

So they're doing the same thing as with DOT, alternating one of the "short" singles each night while the rest remains the same.

In the same vein as with the DOT tour, I expect them to add this album's AWE (Sleeping Giant) at some point too

[Trav]

Alternating IM and TT is cool with me. I like both songs and would be happy seeing either one. But a I don't like either so much that I'd be disappointed not seeing one...if that makes sense.

As much as I love IF, I'd prefer the rest of the set to stay static. Hopefully that's what they do.

[Madman Shepherd]

Next to the title song, Invisible Monster is the one I am looking forward to most, so I would NOT be happy with that change.

Agreed.  I seriously want to see JP playing the IM solo live.  It's like one of my favorite moments on View.

One more vote for Invisible Monster.

[KevShmev]

Hmmm, St Louis is the 8th show, so if that rotation sticks, that means we'd get Transcending Time instead of Invisible Monster.  That might be enough to entice me to go, and would make up a touch for the bad beat on the last tour when we get saddled with Paralyzed instead of Fall into the Light (ugh).

Is that change last night confirmed?  setlist.fm still shows Invisible Monster as having been played last night.

[Shadow2222]

Wait is setlist.fm wrong? I'm seeing Invisible Monsters for both shows

[Trav]

Yeah, it changed again lol.

[Ben_Jamin]

 

If only we had a reliable source here from the Forums that could have went to a show. Or better yet, have video from the shows as evidence.

I'm surprised that there are not many full videos of the songs.

[Kram]

So, according to setlist.fm the only change is Invisible Monster to Transcending Time.

That is incorrect.  Same setlist as Mesa.  No Transcending Time, I was there.  The show was great.  James was so so (not his best, not his worst).  Mangini, JM and JP crushed it.  JR seemed a bit uninterested at times (saw him yawning) - maybe he wasn't feeling well.  Overall setlist works well.  About to Crash was much better than I expected (was thinking it would be cool if they'd break out the full 6DOIT at some point).  MOLS does slog a bit but JP guitar parts are so good it kept me interested.  A View and TCOT were both great and a powerful way to end the night.

[lonestar]

So, according to setlist.fm the only change is Invisible Monster to Transcending Time.

That is incorrect.  Same setlist as Mesa.  No Transcending Time, I was there.  The show was great.  James was so so (not his best, not his worst).  Mangini, JM and JP crushed it.  JR seemed a bit uninterested at times (saw him yawning) - maybe he wasn't feeling well.  Overall setlist works well.  About to Crash was much better than I expected (was thinking it would be cool if they'd break out the full 6DOIT at some point).  MOLS does slog a bit but JP guitar parts are so good it kept me interested.  A View and TCOT were both great and a powerful way to end the night.

Cool, that'll make bosk happy and me sad come Sunday, I was all for TT to take IM's spot, that song just doesn't do anything for me. Hopefully JLB will warm up instead of slide down between now and then.

[bosk1]

Don't get me wrong--I like Transcending Time.  I just like Invisible Monster a bit more, and I think it will slay live.

[TAC]

James was so so

This is disappointing. The videos from the Mesa show are not very flattering either.

[UndercoverMyung]

I think James will improve as the tour goes on and he gets his groove a bit - give it a few shows.
I've thought he's sounded fine in videos I've seen though.