Dr Strange in The Multiverse of Madness --- SPOILERS ALLOWED ---

[soupytwist]

So I've been thinking about it, and I realized I'm not totally sure I have a sense of who Strange is as a character. I know WHAT he does, but I'm not sure why he does it, you know? I got the overall character and motivation for the other MCU people (minus Eternals, I guess) but I just have no sense of who Strange is as a character. He seems more of a function than a person at this point.

Similar to Stark.  Intelligence and arrogance....but where as Stark was more of an extrovert (money, fast cars, hot women) and loves being social where he can be the centre of attention. Strange is an introvert, generally a loner seeking knowledge, being round other people generally annoys him, because he thinks himself above them.

But that’s not his character or arc. That’s his flaws. Or some of them.

Often these characters arcs are just them having to get over thier flaws.

[MinistroRaven]

QUESTION:

In Infinity War Strange tells Tony that they win in only one universe

In Multiverse of Madness we see that at least in another universe they also win (Charles, Mr Fantastic, Thunderbolt, Captain Marvel and the others)

Did Strange was wrong? Did he lie to Tony?

What are your thoughts?

[faizoff]

QUESTION:

In Infinity War Strange tells Tony that they win in only one universe

In Multiverse of Madness we see that at least in another universe they also win (Charles, Mr Fantastic, Thunderbolt, Captain Marvel and the others)

Did Strange was wrong? Did he lie to Tony?

What are your thoughts?

What Strange tells Tony was most likely for that universe only. There's never any mention of him going to different multiverses, he goes forward in time with different scenarios in the same universe.

[MinistroRaven]

QUESTION:

In Infinity War Strange tells Tony that they win in only one universe

In Multiverse of Madness we see that at least in another universe they also win (Charles, Mr Fantastic, Thunderbolt, Captain Marvel and the others)

Did Strange was wrong? Did he lie to Tony?

What are your thoughts?

What Strange tells Tony was most likely for that universe only. There's never any mention of him going to different multiverses, he goes forward in time with different scenarios in the same universe.

Oh, ok.

Maybe the the translation in Spanish was wrong, I need to watch it with audio in English now.

[jingle.boy]

Also, 14M out of infinity is still a pretty small number.

[Lonk]

Saw a video about the BR commentaries and deleted scenes and man, this movie could've been so much better. Not that it was bad, but it seems a lot of the material that didn't make the final cut would have improved it so much.

[The Letter M]

Saw a video about the BR commentaries and deleted scenes and man, this movie could've been so much better. Not that it was bad, but it seems a lot of the material that didn't make the final cut would have improved it so much.

I just got my Target edition BD set and I haven't had a chance to watch the special features yet, but I'm excited to see what they include. I really enjoyed the documentary on Disney+.

-Marc.

[bosk1]

Saw a video about the BR commentaries and deleted scenes and man, this movie could've been so much better. Not that it was bad, but it seems a lot of the material that didn't make the final cut would have improved it so much.

That doesn't surprise me.  Most of the issues I had with the film revolve around things we were simply told rather than shown.  And in order for some things to have emotional resonance or have the desired impact, you have to see what the character is going through and how that impacts them.  We were definitely missing some of that in this film, and just a bit more care in that area could have easily taken it from "just okay" to "really great." 

[Adami]

Yea I think Dr. Strange is the film that really could've benefited from being longer and including more moments instead of simply telling people that it happened off screen.

Thor on the other hand may be improved somewhat by a longer cut (which Taika himself has dismissed) but that one really just seemed to be lost in the writing department.

[faizoff]

Hadn't commented on the movie but I really enjoyed it. I never watched any of the trailers so had no idea who all were going to be in it or what iterations of Doctor Strange there were. And as probably one of the very few who loved the What If series, it was great to see some of those characters placed in the movie.

I had no clue Wanda would be the central role in being the villain. I kinda liked it even if the motivation for her was a bit iffy esp if you've seen her in WandaVision. I'm curious to re-watch it with the wife as she's not seen any of the shows apart from Loki, this movie takes some of the elements of the D+ shows more than any of the others have.


 I enjoyed the 'Raimi'ness of the movie, seeing the mixed reaction towards it I thought I'd be indifferent to it but like others have said, some pacing and editing issues aside it was a solid movie.

Thor 4 is the only one I haven't seen yet and that seems even more mixed than D Strange.


Going back to the extra features listed on the bluray release, they seem really bare apart from the commentary. The documentary on D+ isn't included so guess they're splitting up the availability across platforms.

[Dream Team]

I think 90% of us fans would be happier with much longer run times . . . I mean they’ve filmed the footage after all. But of course it comes down to $ and the amount of screenings you could fit in.

[faizoff]

I don't know how much of a factor that is right now. Both the last avengers movies were 3 hours long. Wasn't the latest Spiderman movie 2 1/2 hours?

[ErHaO]

Yea I think Dr. Strange is the film that really could've benefited from being longer and including more moments instead of simply telling people that it happened off screen.

Thor on the other hand may be improved somewhat by a longer cut (which Taika himself has dismissed) but that one really just seemed to be lost in the writing department.

Interesting, to me it kinda feels the other way around.

Dr Strange is fine in length but I wish they jeeted out the whole Illuminati stuff (I thought they were terrible to be honest) and spend a more time on Wanda, Strange, and the girl accross alternate dimensions.

Thor to me needed much more breathing time between the funny bits and the more serious stuff, but I do like the overall plot and characters.

[Skeever]

I just watched this with my wife last night, and we both enjoyed it immensely.
That said - I agree with everything Adami and Bosk1 have said in this thread, the only difference being that it didn't hamper my enjoyment much.

I've seen this happen before, where a TV show that provides lots of space for character and plot development gets resolved by a fast-paced movie. It's hard to adapt to, at first, because everything feels "rushed". It was hard to really get into heel Wanda, because of how fast (though logical) her heel turn way.

That said I think this general directing, the visuals, and the music were all a notch above much of what I've seen from the MCU thus far. Really love that they let Rami do his thing, and Elfman is always great.