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Which past Spider-Man villain are you looking forward to seeing again in this film?

Doctor Octopus
8 (34.8%)
Green Goblin
9 (39.1%)
Electro
0 (0%)
Sandman
2 (8.7%)
Lizard
1 (4.3%)
Surprise Cameo?
3 (13%)

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Finally Sitting down now with the two oldest sons in the Dreamliner recliners. 8:30 start.

How was it?

I thought it was good. I’m a pretty casual Marvel fan…..I haven’t seen every movie in the Gauntlet of them all but enough of them to enjoy the last few they were released.

I thought the inclusion of the other universe Peter Parker’s was really well done…..but if I’m honest I thought the villains were pretty weak but compared to the villains and the power they’ve had in the recent Marvel movies thats tough to compete against.

The way the movie ended was bitter sweet I suppose……and I did find myself feeling extremely sad for Peter as the choice he had to make was brutal. But I will say that with the power that Dr. Strange has and the ease in which he wields it they could easily rectify any of the effects of the final scenes of this movie in 10 minutes of the next one if they chose.
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Finally saw it, I liked it quite a lot overall!

Some minor complaints.... of course the movie had to exist, and with the characters making good choices there wouldn't be a movie, but the entire movie happens just because of a couple of bad decisions. If Peter hadn't screw up the spell at the beginning, everyone would have just forgotten he was Spiderman, boom, movie over. But he screws up, he wants to give a second chance to the bad guys, Dr. Strange manages to talk him into not going through with it, boom, movie over.

I mean, this could be said of every movie, every film has something that pushes the plot forward, but this was just a blatant case of Peter screwing up things not once but twice in order for the movie to happen. At least it's not out of character, as Dr. Strange said: "Sometimes I don't remember you're just a kid".

I also thought the arrival of the two other Peters would have been more dramatic, but well, not really complaining, it could have been predictable and cheesy to have Tom Holland in dire straits and then out of nowhere comes a spider web and tadaaah, triumphant music, it's Andrew Garfield! it's ok that way.
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I mean, this could be said of every movie, every film has something that pushes the plot forward, but this was just a blatant case of Peter screwing up things not once but twice in order for the movie to happen.


Yeah, it's supposed to be Tony's screwups that drive the action.

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Something to keep in mind about this movie (and I believe Dr. Strange II as well) is that they had to reshoot certain scenes and change the plot a little because of Covid and release order. Dr. Strange was supposed to come out before No Way Home (Initially). Not that it changes how good this movie is, but just something to keep in mind.
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Extended version will be in theaters on Sept 2nd.

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Extended version will be in theaters on Sept 2nd.

Sony just wants us to forget the embarrassing 2nd release of Morbius by giving fans an extended version of NWH, which will mean a 2nd home video release and subsequently more money in Sony's pockets. All of the deleted and extended scenes should've just been on the BD they already released.

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I liked Morbius.
I honestly don’t get the hate.
The movie is BETTER. Than anything DC has released. (Except the last The Batman)

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I liked Morbius.
I honestly don’t get the hate.
The movie is BETTER. Than anything DC has released. (Except the last The Batman)
Look.  I haven't seen it (and I'm not going to), and I know, opinions and all, but I just don't believe that's possible.
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I liked Morbius.
I honestly don’t get the hate.
The movie is BETTER. Than anything DC has released. (Except the last The Batman)

It's gotten almost universally negative reviews. It looked dreadful and it's one of the few Sony Marvel movies I just have no desire to see. So I have no clue what it's better than, but I can say that Shazam was wonderful, and Wonder Woman (the first one) had a great first 3/4. And Zack Snyder's Justice League was legitimately pretty good. I just can't see how anything I've seen in the trailers or heard about with Morbius is better than ANYTHING DC has released. But maybe I'm wrong. Guess I'll never know since I have no plans on watching Morbius.
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I just can't believe any movie/studio that allowed that post-credit scene to see the light of day the way it did could possibly have put out a decent full-length movie.
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I just can’t believe that most of you say it is a bad movie and haven’t even watched it

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I've seen it. I caught it on a Tuesday showing (since Regal discounts the prices for tickets, approximately in half, on Tuesdays), and I'd have to say, while parts of it were entertaining (but not necessarily good), on the whole, I'd say it's my least favorite film in the SSU (Sony's Spider-Man Universe). I would rather watch Venom: Let There Be Carnage and Spider-Man 3 over Morbius. I'd even take The Amazing Spider-Man 2 over it. Those post-credits scenes really didn't help either, and only confused things a bit more just for Sony to try and rush out another attempt at the Sinister Six on film (which they could've done in No Way Home).

At any rate, it's probably a safe bet that there won't be any immediate sequel to Morbius, and if he shows up again, it'll be in another film (Sinister Six, Venom 3, Kraven The Hunter). Sony has to recognize that their Marvel films produced with Disney/Marvel are the only ones making any real money/getting good reviews and positive audience reactions. If they wanted to keep raking in the dough, they'd just let Disney/Marvel co-produce all of their comic book films from now on, and incorporate them into the MCU. How cool would it be to get Morbius with Blade? Or have a live-action Spider-Woman join the West Coast Avengers featuring Ant-Man, Shang-Chi, and War Machine? Sadly, the only way those things might happen is if Sony just gives up the licenses, expands their contract beyond NWH, or Sony Pictures just get bought out by Disney (which, while interesting, probably won't happen).

Looking ahead, Sony has Kraven The Hunter and Madame Web coming out next year, and after the middling reception of Venom 2 and Morbius, I am going in with lowered expectations for these two films. I think they could be exciting, but I don't want to give myself too much hope that they'll be good. I'd rather be surprised than disappointed! :lol

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I've seen it. I caught it on a Tuesday showing (since Regal discounts the prices for tickets, approximately in half, on Tuesdays), and I'd have to say, while parts of it were entertaining (but not necessarily good), on the whole, I'd say it's my least favorite film in the SSU (Sony's Spider-Man Universe). I would rather watch Venom: Let There Be Carnage and Spider-Man 3 over Morbius. I'd even take The Amazing Spider-Man 2 over it. Those post-credits scenes really didn't help either, and only confused things a bit more just for Sony to try and rush out another attempt at the Sinister Six on film (which they could've done in No Way Home).

At any rate, it's probably a safe bet that there won't be any immediate sequel to Morbius, and if he shows up again, it'll be in another film (Sinister Six, Venom 3, Kraven The Hunter). Sony has to recognize that their Marvel films produced with Disney/Marvel are the only ones making any real money/getting good reviews and positive audience reactions. If they wanted to keep raking in the dough, they'd just let Disney/Marvel co-produce all of their comic book films from now on, and incorporate them into the MCU. How cool would it be to get Morbius with Blade? Or have a live-action Spider-Woman join the West Coast Avengers featuring Ant-Man, Shang-Chi, and War Machine? Sadly, the only way those things might happen is if Sony just gives up the licenses, expands their contract beyond NWH, or Sony Pictures just get bought out by Disney (which, while interesting, probably won't happen).

Looking ahead, Sony has Kraven The Hunter and Madame Web coming out next year, and after the middling reception of Venom 2 and Morbius, I am going in with lowered expectations for these two films. I think they could be exciting, but I don't want to give myself too much hope that they'll be good. I'd rather be surprised than disappointed! :lol

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Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Out NOW! Spoilers! No. 3 Domestic/No. 6 WW All-Time!
« Reply #120 on: September 02, 2022, 04:25:50 PM »
‘SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME: THE MORE FUN STUFF VERSION’ is now in theaters with 11 minutes of new footage.
Will you be watching?

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Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Out NOW! Spoilers! No. 3 Domestic/No. 6 WW All-Time!
« Reply #121 on: September 02, 2022, 04:26:52 PM »
‘SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME: THE MORE FUN STUFF VERSION’ is now in theaters with 11 minutes of new footage.
Will you be watching?

After some reviews….nope. Looks like exactly what it says. Few extra minutes of fun stuff. Not enough for me to go to the theaters in NYC right now.
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Something to keep in mind about this movie (and I believe Dr. Strange II as well) is that they had to reshoot certain scenes and change the plot a little because of Covid and release order. Dr. Strange was supposed to come out before No Way Home (Initially). Not that it changes how good this movie is, but just something to keep in mind.

It's interesting, this. There were similar comments about FATWS too. I wonder if Marvel will explain any detail on this at any point. It feels like we hear about as a reason why recent MCU output has been less great than we might have hoped.

If they talk about it more, would that highlight the flaws, or excuse them?
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Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Out NOW! Spoilers! No. 3 Domestic/No. 6 WW All-Time!
« Reply #123 on: September 04, 2022, 03:31:37 PM »
I would say a bit of both, but really and truly there's no way to know. Feige can come out and say "this is what was supposed to happen". And even if on paper it could've been better, maybe it doesn't translate the same to the big screen.

So I went to watch the fun version yesterday with the whole $3 movie tickets. It felt like a no brainer. Except everyone else had the same idea and it was kind of annoying. Little kids running around throughout the movie, people on their phones, it seems people don't know how to locate your seat. 30 mins into the movie and security had to come in to move people around.

The extra stuff was fun. I can see why it was cut because it didn't add much to the plot, but it does add to the fun of it.
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Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Out NOW! Spoilers! No. 3 Domestic/No. 6 WW All-Time!
« Reply #124 on: September 04, 2022, 08:37:34 PM »
Does anyone know if these extra scenes that were added back in were included on the bonus material of the Blu-ray?
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Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Out NOW! Spoilers! No. 3 Domestic/No. 6 WW All-Time!
« Reply #125 on: September 04, 2022, 10:53:13 PM »
Yes.
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« Reply #126 on: September 04, 2022, 11:19:33 PM »
Yes.

“Yes”, you know? Or “yes” they are the scenes?



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« Reply #127 on: September 05, 2022, 08:50:18 AM »
Yes, somebody knows.
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« Reply #128 on: September 17, 2022, 01:40:16 PM »
I am sorry if this has been discussed already, but I just finished watching this movie with my son for the 3rd time this week, and I just noticed that Electro in TAS didn’t know the identity of Spidey. If the premise of all the bad guys coming to this universe was that they knew Peter Parker, how come THIS electro comes too when he never knew who Peter Parker was?

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« Reply #129 on: September 17, 2022, 02:14:23 PM »
I am sorry if this has been discussed already, but I just finished watching this movie with my son for the 3rd time this week, and I just noticed that Electro in TAS didn’t know the identity of Spidey. If the premise of all the bad guys coming to this universe was that they knew Peter Parker, how come THIS electro comes too when he never knew who Peter Parker was?

Well obviously the screenwriter told him.  :P

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Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Out NOW! Spoilers! No. 3 Domestic/No. 6 WW All-Time!
« Reply #130 on: September 17, 2022, 03:00:37 PM »
I am sorry if this has been discussed already, but I just finished watching this movie with my son for the 3rd time this week, and I just noticed that Electro in TAS didn’t know the identity of Spidey. If the premise of all the bad guys coming to this universe was that they knew Peter Parker, how come THIS electro comes too when he never knew who Peter Parker was?

I've speculated that when Electro and Harry team-up, he may have told him who he was by name, but obviously didn't know what he looked like (as evidenced by NWH when Electro was surprised Spider-Man wasn't black).

Definitely not explicitly shown in TASM 2 but could be easily explained away.

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I just watched the rerelease of NWH the more fun version, and man, that wasn't fun at all, it added NOTHING to the movie.