The TAC Roulette V.5...DTF Faves..WTF Am I Missing?? MastoDONE!

[Lonk]

Cool. Never heard of them, but I'm not a guitarist. But I was interested after hearing the lead tones.

To me, PRS>>>>Fender>>Gibson.

I don't know. Gary Moore played a Gibson Les Paul, and it's the best I've ever heard a guitar sound.

I'll give that to Les Paul, they sound great. But that's about the only thing they have going for them. Those guitars are heavy and uncomfortable.

[romdrums]

Also, “publicly scoff” is probably too strong a phrase, but I’m pretty sure SW has said that he didn’t care for DT’s style of music.

Yes, DT is one of the many bands and "traditional" prog is one of the many directions SW doesn't care for. You could fill books with the bands/artists he doesn't like/don't care for/don't find relevant. And while that is his decision, because it's his taste, makes you wonder why he has to tell everyone about it.

Kinda like a vegan. 

Or people who do crossfit. 

If you’re a vegan who does CrossFit, what do you tell people first? 

[romdrums]

Cool. Never heard of them, but I'm not a guitarist. But I was interested after hearing the lead tones.

To me, PRS>>>>Fender>>Gibson.

I don't know. Gary Moore played a Gibson Les Paul, and it's the best I've ever heard a guitar sound.

The Les Paul has the history and mystique, and an iconic list of players, but PRS guitars are better built, more consistent, and are generally more versatile.  They were designed to split the difference between a Les Paul and a Strat, and I think they nailed it.
I'll give that to Les Paul, they sound great. But that's about the only thing they have going for them. Those guitars are heavy and uncomfortable.

[ariich]

Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.

[Kwyjibo]

Update.. moving right along. I think I have 7 writeups done. Hoping for Thursday. We'll see.

I also want to mention again that the lead guitar playing is outstanding. Is SW his own lead guitarist?
If so, what is his guitar of choice?

I think where SW really shines is in finding the right sounds. His playing and his music in general is less about technical prowess and more about textures, soundscapes and atmosphere.

[wolfking]

Cool. Never heard of them, but I'm not a guitarist. But I was interested after hearing the lead tones.

To me, PRS>>>>Fender>>Gibson.

I don't know. Gary Moore played a Gibson Les Paul, and it's the best I've ever heard a guitar sound.

That's because it was Gary Moore behind it.  He'd make a $200 guitar sound better than a $2000 guitar played by anyone else.

[TAC]

Cool. Never heard of them, but I'm not a guitarist. But I was interested after hearing the lead tones.

To me, PRS>>>>Fender>>Gibson.

I don't know. Gary Moore played a Gibson Les Paul, and it's the best I've ever heard a guitar sound.

That's because it was Gary Moore behind it.  He'd make a $200 guitar sound better than a $2000 guitar played by anyone else.

I’m listening to After Hours RIGHT NOW at work!!

Cold Day In Hell

[Kwyjibo]

And that's the difference between Gary Moore and me.

He can make a shit guitar sound good and I can make a good guitar sound like shit. 

[TAC]

And that's the difference between Gary Moore and me.

He can make a shit guitar sound good and I can make a good guitar sound like shit. 

 

[Lowdz]

Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.

Indeed.
His stuff with the Aristocrats is incredible.

[Crow]

 

all i want for christmas is wilsults

[wolfking]

And that's the difference between Gary Moore and me.

He can make a shit guitar sound good and I can make a good guitar sound like shit. 

 

[HOF]

all i want for christmas is wilsults

That would mean I have to listen to Mastadon for Christmas though.

[Buddyhunter1]

all i want for christmas is wilsults

That would mean I have to listen to Mastadon for Christmas though.

Maybe you should listen to Mastodon instead!

[ProfessorPeart]

all i want for christmas is wilsults

That would mean I have to listen to Mastadon for Christmas though.

Maybe you should listen to Mastodon instead!

Yeah, no EDM in this thread. That Mastadon guy changed his name so as to not be confused with good music. 

https://edm.com/news/mastadon-rebrands-marauda

[HOF]

Oh, Mast-o-don.

[TAC]

Oh, Mast-o-don.

Actually..

Ah, Mast-o-don.

[wolfking]

Not to also be confused with Mastedon.

[HOF]

Not to also be confused with Mastedon.

Master Don.

[TAC]

Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.

Lowdz mentioned The Aristocrats. Anything else that he is on?

all i want for christmas is wilsults

The Lovely Mrs TAC informed me this morning that she is taking the rest of the week off. There goes my afternoon listening!    

BUT, I'm 17 writeups down and 7 to go.





Here's what I would say about the results.. I've said it before, but a 7.5 means I LIKE IT. I think we're going to be really bunched up between 7.5 and 8.0. Pretty sure there's no 8.5's at this point. There might be a song or three below 7.5, but I have generally liked pretty much everything I've heard.

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.

Lowdz mentioned The Aristocrats. Anything else that he is on?

He was in Asia for the Aura and Silent Nation albums. He also played some guitar on Ayreon's The Source album.

[TAC]

Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.

Lowdz mentioned The Aristocrats. Anything else that he is on?

He was in Asia for the Aura and Silent Nation albums. He also played some guitar on Ayreon's The Source album.

Are those Asia albums any good? What are the lineups on those albums?

[LudwigVan]

Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.

Lowdz mentioned The Aristocrats. Anything else that he is on?

He was in Asia for the Aura and Silent Nation albums. He also played some guitar on Ayreon's The Source album.

Are those Asia albums any good? What are the lineups on those albums?

If you were not inclined to like Asia to begin with, then I can't see how you'd like those two albums. They don't even have John Wetton on vocals, since he was replaced by a dude named John Payne. I rather enjoy Aura and Silent Nation, but they sorta have this generic 90's soft rock keyboard/watery new-age-y sound with some touches of prog here and there. I remember Stads saying that he absolutely hated this iteration of Asia.

[TAC]

That doesn't sound very promising.

[wolfking]

Watching Guthrie guitar improvs and lessons on YouTube is a satisfying and demoralising experience.  Dude is incredible.

[Stadler]

Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.

Lowdz mentioned The Aristocrats. Anything else that he is on?

He was in Asia for the Aura and Silent Nation albums. He also played some guitar on Ayreon's The Source album.

Are those Asia albums any good? What are the lineups on those albums?

For what it's worth, the first Asia album is iconic in my view, and I'm a big fan of the second one as well.   I saw the John Payne Asia live at Toad's Place (Steve Howe toured with them and played like half the set) and it's one of the worst concerts I've ever seen.   I don't own - nor will I ever own - any of the NON-John Wetton Asia albums.   I know that's harsh, and others have more patience or forgiveness for the John Payne Asia, but to me, that iteration does not exist.   

[romdrums]

Guthrie Govan is a really amazing guitarist, one of my favourites. Just has so much class and skill.

Lowdz mentioned The Aristocrats. Anything else that he is on?

He was in Asia for the Aura and Silent Nation albums. He also played some guitar on Ayreon's The Source album.

Are those Asia albums any good? What are the lineups on those albums?

For what it's worth, the first Asia album is iconic in my view, and I'm a big fan of the second one as well.   I saw the John Payne Asia live at Toad's Place (Steve Howe toured with them and played like half the set) and it's one of the worst concerts I've ever seen.   I don't own - nor will I ever own - any of the NON-John Wetton Asia albums.   I know that's harsh, and others have more patience or forgiveness for the John Payne Asia, but to me, that iteration does not exist.

For Christmas one year, my brother found a bootleg version of an Asia concert on DVD with John Payne, Geoff Downes, Chris Slade on drums, and Guthrie on guitar.  It was awful.  John Payne trying to sing Wetton-era songs was super cringe-y.  I think I ended up either throwing it away or giving it back to my brother. 

[TAC]

So apparently after John Wetton leaves, Asia is pretty Paynefull to listen to?

[Stadler]

 

[romdrums]

So apparently after John Wetton leaves, Asia is pretty Paynefull to listen to?

[King Postwhore]

So apparently after John Wetton leaves, Asia is pretty Paynefull to listen to?

Dad jokes.  Like a boss.

[TAC]

So apparently after John Wetton leaves, Asia is pretty Paynefull to listen to?

Dad jokes.  Like a boss.

All day long! My poor kids. 

[ariich]

I'm going to be the maverick and say that Silent Nation is the only Asia album I know that interested me much.

[King Postwhore]

So apparently after John Wetton leaves, Asia is pretty Paynefull to listen to?

Dad jokes.  Like a boss.

 

I'm going to be the maverick and say that Silent Nation is the only Asia album I know that interested me much.

When it was just Downes, my interest waned as well like Stads.  I did get to see the ordiginal lineup on the Alpha tour in 1983.  I was 15.  Chris DeBurg opened up.

[TAC]

I'm going to be the maverick and say that Silent Nation is the only Asia album I know that interested me much.

I prefer the silent album.