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Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« on: October 25, 2021, 05:33:45 PM »
Alrighty folks, as alluded to at the end of my Transatlantic Survivor, here begins the Dream Theater Survivor 2021 Edition. The last time I ran this, it was 2017 and since then, we've now had two more DT albums come out. I'll be running this a bit differently this time compared to last, but most albums will be run the same. The changes include SFAM, which will be run only as a 12-track album (I did it as 12-tracks and 9-"Scenes" last time), SC will fused "In The Presence Of Enemies" as one song for a total of 7 songs, likewise SDOIT's title track will be one song. "A Change Of Seasons" will be grouped with other non-album songs/B-Sides, and because there will be 18 Consolation Songs, I've decided to let the TOP FOUR of those move on to the Finals, which will feature 40 songs, the most yet in a DT Survivor Finals (as far as I know).

Below is the list of albums/Survivors that will be run, and like my other recent survivors, I will be running TWO ALBUMS simultaneously, and barring any ties, the first four albums should all start and end at the same time, but then there will be some back-and-forth from there on out. For The Astonishing, I will do as I normally do for long/double concept albums and begin with multi-song elimination rounds, narrowing the number of votes per voter with each successive round, where 5th & 6th place will go to Consolation and the Top 4 will go to Finals. I will also run Studio Album and Live Album Survivors near the end alongside the Finals (and other bonus survivors may also pop up that I haven't done in awhile).

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When Dream And Day Unite
01. The Killing Hand
02. A Fortune In Lies

03. Ytse Jam
04. Afterlife
05. Only A Matter Of Time
06. Status Seeker
07. Light Fuse And Get Away
08. The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun

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Images And Words
01. Learning To Live
02. Metropolis Part 1: The Miracle And The Sleeper

03. Take The Time
04. Under A Glass Moon
05. Surrounded
06. Pull Me Under
07. Wait For Sleep
08. Another Day

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Awake
01. Scarred
02. Voices

03. The Mirror
04. Space-Dye Vest
05. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
06. Innocence Faded
07. Lie
08. 6:00
09. Caught In A Web
10. Erotomania
11. The Silent Man

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Falling Into Infinity
01. Trial Of Tears
02. Lines In The Sand

03. Hell's Kitchen
04. Peruvian Skies
05. New Millennium
06. Hollow Years
07. Take Away My Pain
08. Anna Lee
09. Burning My Soul
10. Just Let Me Breathe
11. You Not Me

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Metropolis Part 2: Scenes From A Memory
01. Home
02. Finally Free

03. Strange Déjà Vu
04. Fatal Tragedy
05. Beyond This Life
06. Overture 1928
07. The Dance Of Eternity
08. The Spirit Carries On
09. One Last Time
10. Through Her Eyes
11. Through My Words
12. Regression

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Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence
01. Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence
02. The Glass Prison

03. Blind Faith
04. Disappear
05. Misunderstood
06. The Great Debate

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Train Of Thought
01. In The Name Of God
02. Stream Of Consciousness

03. As I Am
04. Endless Sacrifice
05. This Dying Soul
06. Vacant
07. Honor Thy Father

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Octavarium
01. Octavarium
02. The Root Of All Evil

03. These Walls
04. Panic Attack
05. Sacrificed Sons
06. Never Enough
07. I Walk Beside You
08. The Answer Lies Within

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Systematic Chaos
01. In The Presence Of Enemies (Parts I & II)
02. The Ministry Of Lost Souls

03. Constant Motion
04. Forsaken
05. The Dark Eternal Night
06. Repentance
07. Prophets Of War

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Black Clouds & Silver Linings
01. The Count Of Tuscany
02. A Nightmare To Remember

03. The Shattered Fortress
04. Wither
05. The Best Of Times
06. A Rite Of Passage

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A Dramatic Turn Of Events
01. Breaking All Illusions
02. Bridges In The Sky

03. Lost Not Forgotten
04. Outcry
05. On The Backs Of Angels
06. This Is The Life
07. Beneath The Surface
08. Far From Heaven
09. Build Me Up, Break Me Down

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Dream Theater
01. Illumination Theory
02. The Bigger Picture

03. Behind The Veil
04. Surrender To Reason
05. The Enemy Inside
06. The Looking Glass
07. Along For The Ride
08. Enigma Machine
09. False Awakening Suite

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The Astonishing
01. The Path That Divides
02. The Gift Of Music
03. Moment Of Betrayal
04. A Life Left Behind

05. Three Days
06. Lord Nafaryus

07. Heaven's Cove
08. A New Beginning
09. The X Aspect
10. A Savior In The Square
11. Dystopian Overture
12. Ravenskill
13. A Better Life
14. When Your Time Has Come
15. Our New World
16. The Walking Shadow
17. Chosen
18. A Tempting Offer
19. Act Of Faythe
20. My Last Farewell
21. The Road To Revolution
22. Astonishing
23. Hymn Of A Thousand Voices
24. 2285 Entr'acte
25. The Answer
      Brother, Can You Hear Me?
      Begin Again
28. Losing Faythe
      Whispers On The Wind
30. Descent Of The Nomacs
      The Hovering Sojourn
      Digital Discord
      Machine Chatter
      Power Down

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Distance Over Time
01. At Wit's End
02. Barstool Warrior

03. Pale Blue Dot
04. Fall Into The Light
05. S2N
06. Untethered Angel
07. Paralyzed
08. Out Of Reach
09. Viper King
10. Room 137

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A View From The Top Of The World
01. A View From The Top Of The World
02. Awaken The Master

03. Answering The Call
04. The Alien
05. Sleeping Giant
06. Transcending Time
07. Invisible Monster

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Non-Album Songs & B-Sides
01 A Change Of Seasons
02. Raise The Knife

03. To Live Forever
04. Speak To Me
05. Eve
06. The Way It Used To Be
07. Don't Look Past Me
08. Cover My Eyes
09. Where Are You Now?
10. The Holiday Spirit Carries On
11. Raw Dog

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The Majesty Demos
01. A Vision
02. Another Won

03. Vital Star
04. March Of The Tyrant
05. Two Far
06. Your Majesty
07. Cry For Freedom
08. The School Song
09. Resurrection Of Ernie

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Consolation Rounds
01. Take The Time
02. Strange Déjà Vu
03. The Mirror
04. Blind Faith

05. Hell's Kitchen
06. These Walls
07. As I Am
08. Lost Not Forgotten
09. Pale Blue Dot
10. Behind The Veil
11. Answering The Call
12. The Shattered Fortress
13. Three Days
14. Ytse Jam
15. To Live Forever
16. Constant Motion
17. Lord Nafaryus
18. Vital Star

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The Finals (40 Songs/Tracks Total!)
The Killing Hand
A Fortune In Lies
Learning To Live
Metropolis Part 1: The Miracle And The Sleeper
Scarred
Voices
Lines In The Sand
Trial Of Tears
Home
Finally Free
Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence
The Glass Prison
In The Name Of God
Stream Of Consciousness
Octavarium
The Root Of All Evil
In The Presence Of Enemies (Parts I & II)
The Ministry Of Lost Souls
The Count Of Tuscany
A Nightmare To Remember
Breaking All Illusions
Bridges In The Sky
Illumination Theory
The Bigger Picture
The Path That Divides
The Gift Of Music
Moment Of Betrayal
A Life Left Behind
At Wit's End
Barstool Warrior
A View From The Top Of The World
Awaken The Master
A Change Of Seaons
Raise The Knife
A Vision
Another Won
Take The Time
Strange Déjà Vu
The Mirror
Blind Faith

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The Studio Albums
01. Scenes From A Memory
02. Images And Words
03. Awake
04. Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence
05. A Dramatic Turn Of Events
06. Train Of Thought
07. Octavarium
08. A View From The Top Of The World
09. Distance Over Time
10. Falling Into Infinity
11. Black Clouds & Silver Linings
12. Dream Theater
13. Systematic Chaos
14. The Astonishing
15. When Dream And Day Unite

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The Live Albums
Live At The Marquee
Once In A LIVEtime
Live Scenes From New York
Live At Budokan
Score
Chaos In Motion 2007-2008
Live At Luna Park
Breaking The Fourth Wall
Distant Memories

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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2021, 05:34:36 PM »
I'll put up the first two-day rounds for WDADU and IAW tomorrow morning, and will (hopefully) be able to keep updating every other morning with new rounds (work schedule permitting).

I hope to see lots of DT fans participating in this one! Going by some rough calculations, this survivor will round approximately 7.5 months, or around 224 days (without tie-breakers), or 112 rounds from start to finish (give or take), so we'll be in it for the long haul! By the time we finish (sometime in early June), DT will be in the middle of their European tour, so hopefully that'll help keep things exciting as we reach the home stretch in the Consolation and Finals rounds!

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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2021, 06:40:32 PM »
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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2021, 01:19:57 AM »
Fuck yeah, more DT fun  :metal

The Astonishing gets 4 songs in the  finals and Images and Words only 2, take that, you nomac haters  :metal :metal :metal :biggrin: :lol
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2021, 05:33:11 AM »
Looking forward to it! I wonder if Viper King should go with D/T or with the bonus tracks though

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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2021, 12:56:56 PM »
Sounds good, although I see absolutely no need to include the Majesty Demos.  In any way, shape, or form.

But whatever.
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2021, 10:05:35 AM »
Just noticed that this exists.  Yay!!
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2021, 01:32:55 PM »
I had no idea this was happening, but I’m in!
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2021, 07:06:40 AM »
When Dream And Day Unite's Final Round's Results:
A Fortune In Lies 26 (68.4%)
The Killing Hand 12 (31.6%)

01. The Killing Hand
02. A Fortune In Lies
03. Ytse Jam
04. Afterlife
05. Only A Matter Of Time
06. Status Seeker
07. Light Fuse And Get Away
08. The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun

The album's "epic" takes the top spot while the opening places second but both move on to the Finals! Here are the results from 2017 for comparison:

01. The Killing Hand
02. A Fortune In Lies
03. The Ytse Jam
04. Afterlife
05. Only A Matter Of Time
06. The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun
07. Light Fuse And Get Away
08. Status Seeker

Looks almost exactly the same except places 6 and 8 have swapped! I guess the top 5 will always place the way they do!

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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2021, 07:12:34 AM »
Images And Words's Final Round's Results:
Metropolis Part 1: The Miracle And The Sleeper 27 (67.5%)
Learning To Live 13 (32.5%)

01. Learning To Live
02. Metropolis Part 1: The Miracle And The Sleeper
03. Take The Time
04. Under A Glass Moon
05. Surrounded
06. Pull Me Under
07. Wait For Sleep
08. Another Day

With about 2-to-1 votes, Metropolis places second while the album's closing epic takes the gold. For comparison, here are the results from 2017:

01. Metropolis Part 1: The Miracle And The Sleeper
02. Learning To Live
03. Take The Time
04. Pull Me Under
05. Surrounded
06. Under A Glass Moon
07. Another Day
08. Wait For Sleep

A bit of shuffling here and there but TTT remains third, and the top two and bottom two were the same as well.

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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2021, 08:57:53 AM »
When Dream And Day Unite's Final Round's Results:
A Fortune In Lies 26 (68.4%)
The Killing Hand 12 (31.6%)

01. The Killing Hand
02. A Fortune In Lies
03. Ytse Jam
04. Afterlife
05. Only A Matter Of Time
06. Status Seeker
07. Light Fuse And Get Away
08. The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun

The album's "epic" takes the top spot while the opening places second but both move on to the Finals! Here are the results from 2017 for comparison:

01. The Killing Hand
02. A Fortune In Lies
03. The Ytse Jam
04. Afterlife
05. Only A Matter Of Time
06. The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun
07. Light Fuse And Get Away
08. Status Seeker

Looks almost exactly the same except places 6 and 8 have swapped! I guess the top 5 will always place the way they do!

-Marc.

Wow, 4  years and people still haven't learnt to regard Only a Matter of Time better.

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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2021, 11:11:21 AM »
I like OAMOT even more than I did four years ago, but I still only get one vote.
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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2021, 07:54:23 AM »
Awake's Final Round's Results:
Voices 22 (56.4%)
Scarred 17 (43.6%)

01. Scarred
02. Voices
03. The Mirror
04. Space-Dye Vest
05. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
06. Innocence Faded
07. Lie
08. 6:00
09. Caught In A Web
10. Erotomania
11. The Silent Man

With a bit over half of the total 39 votes, "VVoices" places second and the longest song on the album is the winner (how prog of us)! Here are the results from 2017 for comparison:

01. Scarred
02. The Mirror
03. Voices
04. Space-Dye Vest
05. 6:00
06. Caught In A Web
07. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
08. Lie
09. Erotomania
10. Innocence Faded
11. The Silent Man

Some notable differences include "Innocence Faded" jumping up five spots whole "6:00" lost three, but the top 4 remained consistent.

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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2021, 08:00:46 AM »
Falling Into Infinity's Final Round's Results:
Lines In The Sand 20 (51.3%)
Trial Of Tears 19 (48.7%)

01. Trial Of Tears
02. Lines In The Sand
03. Hell's Kitchen
04. Peruvian Skies
05. New Millennium
06. Hollow Years
07. Take Away My Pain
08. Anna Lee
09. Burning My Soul
10. Just Let Me Breathe
11. You Not Me

By just ONE VOTE, TOT places first over LITS, but IMO, either could have taken first place and I would've been happy with the result. Once again, the album's longest song places first (typical proggers, right? lol), just like the previous three albums. Here are the results from 2017 for comparison:

01. Trial Of Tears
02. Lines In The Sand
03. Peruvian Skies
04. Hell's Kitchen
05. Hollow Years
06. Anna Lee
07. New Millennium
08. Burning My Soul
09. Take Away My Pain
10. Just Let Me Breathe
11. You Not Me

Third and fourth have swapped, as did quite a few of the other songs, but their relative vicinity hasn't changed within 5th-9th places.

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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2021, 11:56:05 AM »
Surprised that Scarred won over Voices, but last time around Voices lost even to The Mirror? that's crazy!

Trial of Tears on the other hand is the rightful winner of FII!
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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2021, 04:32:29 PM »
Surprised that Scarred won over Voices, but last time around Voices lost even to The Mirror? that's crazy!

ANYTHING else on Awake losing to the Mirror is crazy.
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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2021, 07:15:17 PM »
Surprised that Scarred won over Voices, but last time around Voices lost even to The Mirror? that's crazy!

Trial of Tears on the other hand is the rightful winner of FII!

Voices is top-tier, but Scarred is in a league of its own. What an incredible song that feels more mature and well thought out than anything they've done since 2002.

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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2021, 01:54:07 AM »
Surprised that Scarred won over Voices, but last time around Voices lost even to The Mirror? that's crazy!

ANYTHING else on Awake losing to the Mirror is crazy.

Bah. The Mirror is the best all-heavy song of DT!  :metal
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2021, 01:14:39 PM »
Surprised that Scarred won over Voices, but last time around Voices lost even to The Mirror? that's crazy!

ANYTHING else on Awake losing to the Mirror is crazy.

Bah. The Mirror is the best all-heavy song of DT!  :metal

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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2021, 01:37:02 PM »
Surprised that Scarred won over Voices, but last time around Voices lost even to The Mirror? that's crazy!

Trial of Tears on the other hand is the rightful winner of FII!

Voices is top-tier, but Scarred is in a league of its own. What an incredible song that feels more mature and well thought out than anything they've done since 2002.

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« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2021, 07:48:55 AM »
Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence's Final Round's Results:
The Glass Prison 23 (67.6%)
Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence 11 (32.4%)

Total Members Voted: 34

01. Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence
02. The Glass Prison
03. Blind Faith
04. Disappear
05. Misunderstood
06. The Great Debate

Just over 2-to-1, TGP places second, but both it and the title song move on to the Finals! Here are the results from 2017 for comparison:

01. The Glass Prison
02. Disappear
03. The Great Debate
04. Misunderstood
05. Blind Faith
06. Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence

This one definitely has changed the most since then compared to the other albums in this Survivor so far. The only similarity is that TGP made it to Finals, but even then every song has a new placement. Both BF and SD gained rank, but the other four all dropped at least 1 spot.

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« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2021, 08:11:55 AM »
Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence's Final Round's Results:
The Glass Prison 23 (67.6%)
Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence 11 (32.4%)

Total Members Voted: 34

01. Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence
02. The Glass Prison
03. Blind Faith
04. Disappear
05. Misunderstood
06. The Great Debate

Just over 2-to-1, TGP places second, but both it and the title song move on to the Finals! Here are the results from 2017 for comparison:

01. The Glass Prison
02. Disappear
03. The Great Debate
04. Misunderstood
05. Blind Faith
06. Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence

This one definitely has changed the most since then compared to the other albums in this Survivor so far. The only similarity is that TGP made it to Finals, but even then every song has a new placement. Both BF and SD gained rank, but the other four all dropped at least 1 spot.

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Very disappointing results, IMO. I'm much more in agreement with the 2017 results. Ah well - opinions and all that...
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« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2021, 08:54:35 AM »
I'm surprised that it changed that much! To be honest, the 2017 result strikes me as a bit weird. The present one is a lot more in line with what I perceive popular opinion on that album to be.
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« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2021, 10:26:23 AM »
Here are the results from 2017 for comparison:

01. The Glass Prison
02. Disappear
03. The Great Debate
04. Misunderstood
05. Blind Faith
06. Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence

What an upside-down, bizarro world we lived in in 2017.  Yeesh!
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« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2021, 09:11:17 PM »
Here are the results from 2017 for comparison:

01. The Glass Prison
02. Disappear
03. The Great Debate
04. Misunderstood
05. Blind Faith
06. Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence

What an upside-down, bizarro world we lived in in 2017.  Yeesh!

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« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2021, 07:20:20 AM »
Metropolis Part 2: Scenes From A Memory's Final Round's Results:
Home 13 (37.1%)
Finally Free 22 (62.9%)

Total Members Voted: 35

01. Home
02. Finally Free
03. Strange Déjà Vu
04. Fatal Tragedy
05. Beyond This Life
06. Overture 1928
07. The Dance Of Eternity
08. The Spirit Carries On
09. One Last Time
10. Through Her Eyes
11. Through My Words
12. Regression

Once again, the album's two longest songs make it to the Finals! For comparison, here are the results from the 2017 Survivor:

01. Home
02. Finally Free
03. Fatal Tragedy
04. Strange Déjà Vu
05. Beyond This Life
06. Overture 1928
07. The Dance Of Eternity
08. The Spirit Carries On
09. One Last Time
10. Through Her Eyes
11. Through My Words
12. Regression

The results remained almost the same, the only change being that SDV and FT swapped places, with the former moving to Consolation this time around.

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« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2021, 07:24:53 AM »
Train Of Thought's Final Round's Results:
Stream Of Consciousness 23 (65.7%)
In The Name Of God 12 (34.3%)

Total Members Voted: 35

01. In The Name Of God
02. Stream Of Consciousness
03. As I Am
04. Endless Sacrifice
05. This Dying Soul
06. Vacant
07. Honor Thy Father

The long instrumental places second but both it and ITNOG move on to Finals! Here are the results from 2017 for comparison:

01. In The Name Of God
02. Stream Of Consciousness
03. This Dying Soul
04. Endless Sacrifice
05. As I Am
06. Vacant
07. Honor Thy Father

The results were mostly the same, the only change being that AIA and TDS swapped places, with the album opener now moving on to Consolation this time around!

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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2021, 06:18:16 PM »
Wow...TDS finishing THIRD in 2017?  Bleh!
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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2021, 08:58:23 PM »
2017 results were better for ToT. This Dying Soul is massively better than As I Am.

For SFAM, 2017 results were worse. Just don't get the Fatal Tragedy thing. I'd have it 9th, not 3rd or 4th.
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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2022, 08:22:47 AM »
Systematic Chaos's Final Round's Results:
In The Presence Of Enemies (Parts I & II) 7 (18.4%)
The Ministry Of Lost Souls 31 (81.6%)
Total Members Voted: 38

01. In The Presence Of Enemies (Parts I & II)
02. The Ministry Of Lost Souls
03. Constant Motion
04. Forsaken
05. The Dark Eternal Night
06. Repentance
07. Prophets Of War

And with over 80% of the votes, TMOLS places second but the album's two longest songs both make it to the Finals. For comparison, here are the results from the 2017 Survivor:

01. In The Presence Of Enemies (Parts I & II)
02. The Ministry Of Lost Souls
03. Forsaken
04. Constant Motion
05. The Dark Eternal Night
06. Repentance
07. Prophets Of War

Almost identical, the only change being that "Forsaken" and "Constant Motion" have swapped places, with the latter moving to Consolation this time around!

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« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2022, 11:53:04 AM »
We got it right with Forsaken the previous time!
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« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2022, 08:29:45 AM »
Octavarium's Final Round's Result:
The Root Of All Evil 34 (87.2%)
Octavarium 5 (12.8%)
Total Members Voted: 39

01. Octavarium
02. The Root Of All Evil
03. These Walls
04. Panic Attack
05. Sacrificed Sons
06. Never Enough
07. I Walk Beside You
08. The Answer Lies Within

Interesting that five folks preferred TROAE over the fairly beloved fan-favorite title track! Here are the 2017 results for comparison:

Octavarium
01. Octavarium
02. The Root Of All Evil
03. Sacrificed Sons
04. These Walls
05. Panic Attack
06. Never Enough
07. The Answer Lies Within
08. I Walk Beside You

IWBY and TALW swapped places, while 3rd-6th places all shuffled around a bit, giving TW the Consolation place over SS from 2017.

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« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2022, 08:43:01 AM »
Black Clouds & Silver Linings's Final Round's Results:
A Nightmare To Remember 32 (86.5%)
The Count Of Tuscany 5 (13.5%)
Total Members Voted: 37

01. The Count Of Tuscany
02. A Nightmare To Remember
03. The Shattered Fortress
04. Wither
05. The Best Of Times
06. A Rite Of Passage

As expected, the album's two longest songs go to Finals, with the closing epic placing first. Here are the results from 2017 for comparison:

01. The Count Of Tuscany
02. A Nightmare To Remember
03. The Shattered Fortress
04. Wither
05. The Best Of Times
06. A Rite Of Passage

Aaaaand they were exactly the same. I guess getting the same results twice in a row means, on the whole, this is how DTF ranks the album.

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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2022, 07:22:38 AM »
A Dramatic Turn Of Events's Final Round's Results:
Bridges In The Sky 29 (85.3%)
Breaking All Illusions 5 (14.7%)
Total Members Voted: 34

01. Breaking All Illusions
02. Bridges In The Sky
03. Lost Not Forgotten
04. Outcry
05. On The Backs Of Angels
06. This Is The Life
07. Beneath The Surface
08. Far From Heaven
09. Build Me Up, Break Me Down

BITS places second with just over 85% of the total votes, making BAI the clear winner here, but both move on to the Finals. Here are the results from 2017 for comparison:

01. Breaking All Illusions
02. Bridges In The Sky
03. On The Backs Of Angels
04. Outcry
05. This Is The Life
06. Beneath The Surface
07. Lost Not Forgotten
08. Far From Heaven
09. Build Me Up, Break Me Down

Looks like LNF jumped up from 7th place last time up to 3rd/Consolation, which is a big leap for the song, and in this survivor in general. Outcry remained fourth and barely made it to Consolation both times. Maybe next time it'll get there? (Sorry Outcry fans).

We march on with the beginning of The Astonishing and we near the end of the DT12 Survivor, and after that ends, we will begin the survivor for Distance Over Time, its first time here in the DT Survivor! I'm excited to see how that goes as I think I know what the fan favorites are, but I'm sure I might be surprised!

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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2022, 07:58:45 AM »
So this time around we voted Beneath the Surface out earlier, and kept Lost Not Forgotten around for a long time. We did worse  :D

Anyway, I don't really care for the song, but LNF's resiliance has to be applauded!
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