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Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« on: October 25, 2021, 05:33:45 PM »
Alrighty folks, as alluded to at the end of my Transatlantic Survivor, here begins the Dream Theater Survivor 2021 Edition. The last time I ran this, it was 2017 and since then, we've now had two more DT albums come out. I'll be running this a bit differently this time compared to last, but most albums will be run the same. The changes include SFAM, which will be run only as a 12-track album (I did it as 12-tracks and 9-"Scenes" last time), SC will fused "In The Presence Of Enemies" as one song for a total of 7 songs, likewise SDOIT's title track will be one song. "A Change Of Seasons" will be grouped with other non-album songs/B-Sides, and because there will be 18 Consolation Songs, I've decided to let the TOP FOUR of those move on to the Finals, which will feature 40 songs, the most yet in a DT Survivor Finals (as far as I know).

Below is the list of albums/Survivors that will be run, and like my other recent survivors, I will be running TWO ALBUMS simultaneously, and barring any ties, the first four albums should all start and end at the same time, but then there will be some back-and-forth from there on out. For The Astonishing, I will do as I normally do for long/double concept albums and begin with multi-song elimination rounds, narrowing the number of votes per voter with each successive round, where 5th & 6th place will go to Consolation and the Top 4 will go to Finals. I will also run Studio Album and Live Album Survivors near the end alongside the Finals (and other bonus survivors may also pop up that I haven't done in awhile).

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When Dream And Day Unite
01. The Killing Hand
02. A Fortune In Lies

03. Ytse Jam
04. Afterlife
05. Only A Matter Of Time
06. Status Seeker
07. Light Fuse And Get Away
08. The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun

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Images And Words
01. Learning To Live
02. Metropolis Part 1: The Miracle And The Sleeper

03. Take The Time
04. Under A Glass Moon
05. Surrounded
06. Pull Me Under
07. Wait For Sleep
08. Another Day

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Awake
6:00
Caught In A Web
Innocence Faded
Erotomania
Voices
The Silent Man
The Mirror
Lie
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
Scarred
Space-Dye Vest

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Falling Into Infinity
New Millennium
You Not Me
Peruvian Skies
Hollow Years
Burning My Soul
Hell's Kitchen
Lines In The Sand
Take Away My Pain
Just Let Me Breathe
Anna Lee
Trial Of Tears

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Metropolis Part 2: Scenes From A Memory
Regression
Overture 1928
Strange Deja Vu
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy
Beyond This Life
Through Her Eyes
Home
The Dance Of Eternity
One Last Time
The Spirit Carries On
Finally Free

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Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence
The Glass Prison
Blind Faith
Misunderstood
The Great Debate
Disappear
Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence

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Train Of Thought
As I Am
This Dying Soul
Endless Sacrifice
Honor Thy Father
Vacant
Stream Of Consciousness
In The Name Of God

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Octavarium
The Root Of All Evil
The Answer Lies Within
These Walls
I Walk Beside You
Panic Attack
Never Enough
Sacrificed Sons
Octavarium

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Systematic Chaos
In The Presence Of Enemies (Parts I & II)
Forsaken
Constant Motion
The Dark Eternal Night
Repentance
Prophets Of War
The Ministry Of Lost Souls

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Black Clouds & Silver Linings
A Nightmare To Remember
A Rite Of Passage
Wither
The Shattered Fortress
The Best Of Times
The Count Of Tuscany

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A Dramatic Turn Of Events
On The Backs Of Angels
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Lost Not Forgotten
This Is The Life
Bridges In The Sky
Outcry
Far From Heaven
Breaking All Illusions
Beneath The Surface

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Dream Theater
False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
The Looking Glass
Enigma Machine
The Bigger Picture
Behind The Veil
Surrender To Reason
Along For The Ride
Illumination Theory

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The Astonishing
Descent Of The NOMACS
Dystopian Overture
The Gift Of Music
The Answer
A Better Life
Lord Narfaryus
A Savior In The Square
When Your Time Has Come
Act Of Faythe
Three Days
The Hovering Sojourn
Brother Can You Hear Me?
A Life Left Behind
Ravenskill
Chosen
A Tempting Offer
Digital Discord
The X Aspect
A New Beginning
The Road To Revolution
2285 Entr'acte
Moment Of Betrayal
Heaven's Cove
Begin Again
The Path That Divides
Machine Chatter
The Walking Shadow
My Last Farewell
Losing Faythe
Whispers On The Wind
Hymn Of A Thousand Voices
Our New World
Power Down
Astonishing

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Distance Over Time
Untethered Angel
Paralyzed
Fall Into The Light
Barstool Warrior
Room 137
S2N
At Wit's End
Out Of Reach
Pale Blue Dot
Viper King

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A View From The Top Of The World
The Alien
Answering The Call
Invisible Monster
Sleeping Giant
Transcending Time
Awaken The Master
A View From The Top Of The World

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The Majesty Demos
Another Won
Your Majesty
A Vision
Two Far
Vital Star
March Of The Tyrant
The School Song
Cry For Freedom
Resurrection Of Ernie

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Non-Album Songs & B-Sides
A Change Of Seasons
Don't Look Past Me
To Live Forever
Eve
Raise The Knife
Where Are You Now?
The Way It Used To Be
Cover My Eyes
Speak To Me
Raw Dog
The Holiday Spirit Carries On

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Consolation Rounds
WDADU 3
IAW 3
Awake 3
FII 3
SFAM 3
SDOIT 3
TOT 3
Octavarium 3
SC 3
BC&SL 3
ADTOE 3
DT 3
The Astonishing 5
The Astonishing 6
DOT 3
AVFTTOTW 3
TMD 3
B-Sides 3

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The Finals (40 Songs/Tracks Total!)
WDADU 1
WDADU 2
IAW 1
IAW 2
Awake 1
Awake 2
FII 1
FII 2
SFAM 1
SFAM 2
SDOIT 1
SDOIT 2
TOT 1
TOT 2
Octavarium 1
Octavarium 2
SC 1
SC 2
BC&SL 1
BC&SL 2
ADTOE 1
ADTOE 2
DT 1
DT 2
The Astonishing 1
The Astonishing 2
The Astonishing 3
The Astonishing 4
DOT 1
DOT 2
AVFTTOTW 1
AVFTTOTW 2
TMD 1
TMD 2
B-Sides 1
B-Sides 2
Consolation 1
Consolation 2
Consolation 3
Consolation 4
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The Studio Albums
When Dream And Day Unite
Images And Words
Awake
Falling Into Infinity
Scenes From A Memory
Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence
Train Of Thought
Octavarium
Systematic Chaos
Black Clouds & Silver Linings
A Dramatic Turn Of Events
Dream Theater
The Astonishing
Distance Over Time
A View From The Top Of The World

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The Live Albums
Live At The Marquee
Once In A LIVEtime
Live Scenes From New York
Live At Budokan
Score
Chaos In Motion 2007-2008
Live At Luna Park
Breaking The Fourth Wall
Distant Memories

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-Marc.
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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2021, 05:34:36 PM »
I'll put up the first two-day rounds for WDADU and IAW tomorrow morning, and will (hopefully) be able to keep updating every other morning with new rounds (work schedule permitting).

I hope to see lots of DT fans participating in this one! Going by some rough calculations, this survivor will round approximately 7.5 months, or around 224 days (without tie-breakers), or 112 rounds from start to finish (give or take), so we'll be in it for the long haul! By the time we finish (sometime in early June), DT will be in the middle of their European tour, so hopefully that'll help keep things exciting as we reach the home stretch in the Consolation and Finals rounds!

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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2021, 06:40:32 PM »
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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2021, 01:19:57 AM »
Fuck yeah, more DT fun  :metal

The Astonishing gets 4 songs in the  finals and Images and Words only 2, take that, you nomac haters  :metal :metal :metal :biggrin: :lol
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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2021, 05:33:11 AM »
Looking forward to it! I wonder if Viper King should go with D/T or with the bonus tracks though

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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2021, 12:56:56 PM »
Sounds good, although I see absolutely no need to include the Majesty Demos.  In any way, shape, or form.

But whatever.
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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2021, 10:05:35 AM »
Just noticed that this exists.  Yay!!
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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2021, 01:32:55 PM »
I had no idea this was happening, but Im in!
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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2021, 07:06:40 AM »
When Dream And Day Unite's Final Round's Results:
A Fortune In Lies 26 (68.4%)
The Killing Hand 12 (31.6%)

01. The Killing Hand
02. A Fortune In Lies
03. Ytse Jam
04. Afterlife
05. Only A Matter Of Time
06. Status Seeker
07. Light Fuse And Get Away
08. The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun

The album's "epic" takes the top spot while the opening places second but both move on to the Finals! Here are the results from 2017 for comparison:

01. The Killing Hand
02. A Fortune In Lies
03. The Ytse Jam
04. Afterlife
05. Only A Matter Of Time
06. The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun
07. Light Fuse And Get Away
08. Status Seeker

Looks almost exactly the same except places 6 and 8 have swapped! I guess the top 5 will always place the way they do!

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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2021, 07:12:34 AM »
Images And Words's Final Round's Results:
Metropolis Part 1: The Miracle And The Sleeper 27 (67.5%)
Learning To Live 13 (32.5%)

01. Learning To Live
02. Metropolis Part 1: The Miracle And The Sleeper
03. Take The Time
04. Under A Glass Moon
05. Surrounded
06. Pull Me Under
07. Wait For Sleep
08. Another Day

With about 2-to-1 votes, Metropolis places second while the album's closing epic takes the gold. For comparison, here are the results from 2017:

01. Metropolis Part 1: The Miracle And The Sleeper
02. Learning To Live
03. Take The Time
04. Pull Me Under
05. Surrounded
06. Under A Glass Moon
07. Another Day
08. Wait For Sleep

A bit of shuffling here and there but TTT remains third, and the top two and bottom two were the same as well.

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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2021, 08:57:53 AM »
When Dream And Day Unite's Final Round's Results:
A Fortune In Lies 26 (68.4%)
The Killing Hand 12 (31.6%)

01. The Killing Hand
02. A Fortune In Lies
03. Ytse Jam
04. Afterlife
05. Only A Matter Of Time
06. Status Seeker
07. Light Fuse And Get Away
08. The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun

The album's "epic" takes the top spot while the opening places second but both move on to the Finals! Here are the results from 2017 for comparison:

01. The Killing Hand
02. A Fortune In Lies
03. The Ytse Jam
04. Afterlife
05. Only A Matter Of Time
06. The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun
07. Light Fuse And Get Away
08. Status Seeker

Looks almost exactly the same except places 6 and 8 have swapped! I guess the top 5 will always place the way they do!

-Marc.

Wow, 4  years and people still haven't learnt to regard Only a Matter of Time better.

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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2021 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2021, 11:11:21 AM »
I like OAMOT even more than I did four years ago, but I still only get one vote.
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