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« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2021, 05:25:15 PM »
That's pretty much where I am.

We're lucky they're this good after 36 years and 15 albums. Most bands end up sounding like all the bands they inspired.

I'm not even bothered if this album is a little safe. Maybe the next one will be different ! :)

Exactly! This album has new elements, I wouldn't say its "safe" as a whole. ATM will knock you all on your asses for sure, they are saving the "meat" for the release, I love both singles but this cat only has 2 paws out of the bag!  :)

Glasser - is it your opinion that this is the most radio friendly song on the album?

No.

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« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2021, 05:27:26 PM »
What compounds the problem of my listening experience for this song is that the three times I played this song, a song from D/T autoplays after and I can't help but feel more excited with the D/T song. Will listen to my iTunes later.

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« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2021, 05:28:41 PM »
Right, definitely no re-invention of the wheel taking place so far . . .

Why would you expect that?

My comment was based on the clip, I haven’t heard the song yet.

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« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2021, 05:31:50 PM »
I hope I am wrong, but as I said not just this one but both these first two tracks to me sound like a band who are bored and stale.  I hope the people saying it's fresh are right though and I can be persuaded otherwise once the album is out.

Think of the reviews that said the very same things about Senjutsu, and how differently you feel about that album.

Iron Maiden does what Iron Maiden does. Same with Dream Theater.

Maybe it's you that's bored of Dream Theater. :P

This is a definite possibility.
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« Reply #39 on: September 21, 2021, 05:56:09 PM »
As a resident Radiohead fan, I have to call BS on the earlier post in this thread about them. They never threw their guitars away and starting exclusively using keyboards and drum machines.  That is a lie.

Anyway, back to the new DT!

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« Reply #40 on: September 21, 2021, 05:58:57 PM »
As with every new DT song.. I didn’t enjoy the first listen and was mostly confused, then after around 3 listens it clicked & I love it now. Looking forward to hearing the full album! Labrie is sounding awesome singing in a more comfortable range as well… I hope he maintains a similar range throughout the album

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« Reply #41 on: September 21, 2021, 06:05:41 PM »
Deleted. I apologize.
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« Reply #42 on: September 21, 2021, 06:09:19 PM »
Had a go at the lyrics, similar to SG, TT, ATM.  The Alien lyrics were on Apple music but this one isn't for some reason. 

Invisible Monster
Lyrics by John Petrucci

When you face the creature
That waits beneath your bed
Will you stare into its eyes
And look away

Running toward the fire
Or fleeing from the flame
The choice to seek or hide
Is yours to make

The serpent inside
Wrapping its tail around my neck
I’m buried alive
Dying to take another breath

Invisible monster
Always felt but never seen
All will come ?
Refusing to leave
Invisible monster

Hiding never showing its face
Feeding on irrational fear
Thoughts grace at a feverish pace (?)
Sowing on a flood of my tears (?)

Perched on his ? shoulder
Whispering in his ear
Things that may never happen
Worries too much to bear

Invisible monster
Always felt but never seen
All will come ?
Refusing to leave
Invisible monster

Invisible monster
Always felt but never seen
All will come ?
Refusing to leave

Invisible monster
Beast that dwells inside my mind
Give up your whole ????
????? take back control
Invisible Monster

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« Reply #43 on: September 21, 2021, 06:22:00 PM »
It’s growing on me, the production sounds great though, I will say that.

The second half of the chorus sounds very similar to the end of One Last Time so am guessing this is another JLB penned tune.

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« Reply #44 on: September 21, 2021, 06:30:46 PM »
Had a go at the lyrics, similar to SG, TT, ATM.  The Alien lyrics were on Apple music but this one isn't for some reason. 

Invisible Monster
Lyrics by John Petrucci

When you face the creature
That waits beneath your bed
Will you stare into its eyes
And look away

Running toward the fire
Or fleeing from the flame
The choice to seek or hide
Is yours to make

The serpent inside
Wrapping its tail around my neck
I’m buried alive
Dying to take another breath

Invisible monster
Always felt but never seen
All will come ?
Refusing to leave
Invisible monster

Hiding never showing its face
Feeding on irrational fear
Thoughts grace at a feverish pace (?)
Sowing on a flood of my tears (?)


Perched on his ? shoulder
Whispering in his ear
Things that may never happen
Worries too much to bear

Invisible monster
Always felt but never seen
All will come ?
Refusing to leave
Invisible monster

Invisible monster
Always felt but never seen
All will come ?
Refusing to leave

Invisible monster
Beast that dwells inside my mind
Give up your whole ????
????? take back control

Invisible Monster

For the bolded bits:
- Unwelcome Presence
- Thoughts race at a feverish pace,
   Soaring on a flight of ideas
- Perched on it’s victims shoulder
- Give up your hold,
   Let me take back control

The lyrics are actually included on the Apple Music version  :tup
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« Reply #45 on: September 21, 2021, 06:31:56 PM »
How odd, they're not showing on mine. Thanks though!

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« Reply #46 on: September 21, 2021, 06:33:14 PM »
As a resident Radiohead fan, I have to call BS on the earlier post in this thread about them. They never threw their guitars away and starting exclusively using keyboards and drum machines.  That is a lie.

Nobody cares. :P
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #47 on: September 21, 2021, 07:08:20 PM »
How odd, they're not showing on mine. Thanks though!

No probs mate. There is a little icon to the left wit inverted commas that you often have to press for lyrics. If you’ve done that though, not too sure - I’m in Australia, so perhaps there is something different. In any case, all good  :tup

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« Reply #48 on: September 21, 2021, 07:19:16 PM »
Right, definitely no re-invention of the wheel taking place so far . . .

Why would you expect that?

My comment was based on the clip, I haven’t heard the song yet.

Still,  if you expect them to reinvent the wheel now you are not being realistic.
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« Reply #49 on: September 21, 2021, 07:34:35 PM »
Right, definitely no re-invention of the wheel taking place so far . . .

Why would you expect that?

My comment was based on the clip, I haven’t heard the song yet.

Still,  if you expect them to reinvent the wheel now you are not being realistic.

The wheel is fine as is. There are so many other bands/albums to go to if you need to give DT a break. I stand firmly that singles in this genre are a waste. A medley would have been best. Most of this speculation will change once the album is out. Only 16 minutes out of 70 is out there. Question, when you all have the album are you going to skip over the singles now? MEDLEY dammit!!!!!!  >:( :censored

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« Reply #50 on: September 21, 2021, 07:38:32 PM »
If you're dating one of the sexiest females on the planet who gives an amazing blow job are you going to all of a sudden dump her if she doesn't swallow twice? The head's still amazing right???

Never thought of it this way but I think I see what you're saying  :rollin

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« Reply #51 on: September 21, 2021, 07:47:04 PM »
I’m confused. Is the full song out now somewhere? All I see on YouTube is the 30 second sampler and there’s nothing on Amazon Music yet. Maybe it’s only out on the other side of the world from the US?

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« Reply #52 on: September 21, 2021, 07:55:10 PM »
If you're dating one of the sexiest females on the planet who gives an amazing blow job are you going to all of a sudden dump her if she doesn't swallow twice? The head's still amazing right???

This analogy sucks. ;D
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #53 on: September 21, 2021, 07:59:05 PM »
As a resident Radiohead fan, I have to call BS on the earlier post in this thread about them. They never threw their guitars away and starting exclusively using keyboards and drum machines.  That is a lie.

Nobody cares. :P

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« Reply #54 on: September 21, 2021, 08:00:29 PM »
If you're dating one of the sexiest females on the planet who gives an amazing blow job are you going to all of a sudden dump her if she doesn't swallow twice? The head's still amazing right???

This analogy sucks. ;D


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« Reply #55 on: September 21, 2021, 08:09:59 PM »
Yeah I like this new single a lot. :)

It reminds me of Hells Kitchen meets a bit of In The Presence with a touch of DT12.
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« Reply #56 on: September 21, 2021, 08:49:53 PM »
As a resident Radiohead fan, I have to call BS on the earlier post in this thread about them. They never threw their guitars away and starting exclusively using keyboards and drum machines.  That is a lie.

Anyway, back to the new DT!

Yea you're right.  They didn't throw away their guitars, just their distortion pedals!  ::) 
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« Reply #57 on: September 21, 2021, 08:54:55 PM »
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« Reply #58 on: September 21, 2021, 09:07:00 PM »
If you're dating one of the sexiest females on the planet who gives an amazing blow job are you going to all of a sudden dump her if she doesn't swallow twice? The head's still amazing right???

This analogy sucks. ;D

I crack myself up  :lol :lol :lol

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« Reply #59 on: September 21, 2021, 09:12:33 PM »
What compounds the problem of my listening experience for this song is that the three times I played this song, a song from D/T autoplays after and I can't help but feel more excited with the D/T song. Will listen to my iTunes later.

Noob delete.  :blush
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« Reply #60 on: September 21, 2021, 09:17:57 PM »
What compounds the problem of my listening experience for this song is that the three times I played this song, a song from D/T autoplays after and I can't help but feel more excited with the D/T song. Will listen to my iTunes later.

I wish D/T had the production of DT15 because I love the album especially Surrender to Reason!

D/T = Distance over Time

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« Reply #61 on: September 21, 2021, 10:01:23 PM »
What compounds the problem of my listening experience for this song is that the three times I played this song, a song from D/T autoplays after and I can't help but feel more excited with the D/T song. Will listen to my iTunes later.

I wish D/T had the production of DT15 because I love the album especially Surrender to Reason!

D/T = Distance over Time

Noob mistake, I though DoT was Distance over Time.  :blush

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« Reply #62 on: September 21, 2021, 10:26:42 PM »
Sounds like DT.  Nothing for me to complain  about.
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« Reply #63 on: September 21, 2021, 10:27:38 PM »
First time around, there's stuff I enjoy and stuff I'm not too crazy about. I think the "gothic" (?), dark sensibility gives the song an interesting tone. There's something about this that really makes me think about the Astonishing (go figure, it's almost like it's the same band!). That's fine by me!

It almost sounds like a return to Heaven's Cove – the fictional place, not the song. There's similarities between Invisible Monster and Heaven's Cove (the song), but I think the latter ends up being more compelling arrangement-wise.

The one thing that didn't win me over was the way the melody works in the last "Invisible moooonsteeer" in the chorus. There's something about that interaction between the vocals and the instruments that didn't gel for me. I can't objectively describe what it is, but the guitars sort of over-power the voice, even though the vocals are layered.

It might grow more for me, I'm definitely willing to give it another go in the context of the album.

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« Reply #64 on: September 21, 2021, 10:34:09 PM »
The sound.  :heart The middle. :metal I will be turning it on extra loud in my car tomorrow. The lyric melody I will need to sit with, but what it's portraying hits home very hard.
I love when Dream Theater has dark and twisted sounding music and lyrics, but the melody is not so much...Makes it interesting.

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« Reply #65 on: September 21, 2021, 10:35:54 PM »
A younger James Labrie would have spiced this song up a little bit when singing  the“invisible monster part

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« Reply #66 on: September 21, 2021, 10:45:53 PM »
Maybe Dream Theater just doesn't excite me anymore, but they do sound bored. They don't even experiment with song structure anymore or even try anything even slightly outside the box. HIRE A PRODUCER THAT WILL PUSH YOU IN NEW DIRECTIONS!

I mean, they definitely don't need to reinvent the wheel, but what happened to the progressive in progressive metal. It's gone. They are in a rut, imo.
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« Reply #67 on: September 21, 2021, 10:46:54 PM »
Wow. Just listened for first time and all I can say is I thought "The Alien" was uninspired but this is REALLY uninspired. I'm actually in shock at how bad that was. What on earth are they thinking? Look, I'd love nothing more than to say I'm thrilled about both songs so far, but my honest opinion is that they are just NOT good songs at all.

I loved "ADTOE" even though I expected the worse after MP left. I was really happy with that album, but it has "IMO" gone to hell in a hand basket with each subsequent release. The Dream Theater album was "good", The Astonishing was anything but :tdwn, and Distance Over Time was at best, "ok".
Maybe I just expect too much from the band at this point, but I'm VERY DISAPPOINTED! Here's hoping there's something redeeming on the rest of album. So sad! :(

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« Reply #68 on: September 21, 2021, 11:06:12 PM »
Now this sounds like a single.

It further explores and expands upon that sound introduced in The Alien. I only heard it once, and man what a song. I can hear so many callbacks to older songs in terms of structure, style, groove, tone, atmosphere and feel.

I really love that reminiscent feeling of the middle section of Pull Me Under. It adds a more creepy vibe to the song and is a great way to utilize that structure again.

There's hints of their older sounds, and It's like they threw the Distant Memories Tour setlist in a blender with a dash of Pull Me Under and a pinch of Burning My Soul.   

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« Reply #69 on: September 21, 2021, 11:10:58 PM »
Just finishing listening to it for the first time. On a super shitty TV speaker.

Even on this speaker it sounds really good production wise, and overall I dig it. Is it my favorite DT song? Hell no. But I do enjoy it.


(Keep in mind that I REALLY liked Paralyzed when it came out).
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