Marvel Studios' What If...? (Disney+) - All S2 Eps now out! S3 teased!

[ZirconBlue]

Plus, as far as I'm concerned she was already a super soldier in that department.

 

[PetFish]

I love the animation style.

But isn't she Captain UK now?  What was the point of changing that part when it's still a US-funded-and-developed project?

What If... she was Canadian and jumped into the machine?  Would she now be "Captain Canuck"?  Would she be Captain America with a white/red suit/shield?

If someone can explain why she's Captain America but with the UK flag I'd really appreciate it.

[The Letter M]

I love the animation style.

But isn't she Captain UK now?  What was the point of changing that part when it's still a US-funded-and-developed project?

What If... she was Canadian and jumped into the machine?  Would she now be "Captain Canuck"?  Would she be Captain America with a white/red suit/shield?

If someone can explain why she's Captain America but with the UK flag I'd really appreciate it.

Well, since she was rejected by Flynn, and the US Govt by association, she was let go of the program but Howard Stark personally funded her with a new costume and a shield, so she wasn't really associated with the US Govt, but because Britain and the US were allies during WWII, she presumably worked with them when she started doing missions, initially to save Bucky and their troop from Hydra (just like Steve did in The First Avenger).

I guess technically she should be Captain Britain, who is an established character in the comics, and there's even a Captain Britain Corps, a group of interdimensional, alternate versions of Captain Britain who team up together, which could be a possibility in future Marvel Studios What If...? stories.

-Marc.

[The Letter M]

Just watched the new episode (before heading off to work). Gotta say, I really liked this one too! There were a lot of returning characters we know (and love) from the MCU but in VERY different circumstances, which I like to see. This is quite a contrast to last week's episode in that it sees these characters further past the diverging point premise of the episode, so we have to draw conclusions and inferences from context and conversation about why they've ended up where they have. Granted, it's a bit more exposition-y than usual because we have to fill in some blanks, but seeing where things have ended up in this alternate 2008 timeline is totally worth it.

Fans of Black Panther/T'Challa, the Guardians films, and Infinity War will really like this episode!

-Marc.

[lonestar]

Really fun episode, loved the Thanos bit. Also nice usage of Howard.

[Orbert]

I wasn't going to watch this series (got a lot of stuff going on right now), but if it's considered canon, then I guess I will.  Also, the reviews and discussion here make it sound like it will be okay and not a waste of time.

Also, kudos to DTF for 22 correct uses of the word "canon" (23 now!) and no one mentioning "cannon".  That always bugs me.

[Grappler]

I can't get into this show.  It's cute for what it is, but I find myself bored after 5 minutes of each episode. 

I think the only thing that makes it canon is that they're playing around in the multiverse and telling alternate stories (and that they have so many of the original film's cast members in voice roles).

[ariich]

That second episode was a blast. I particularly enjoyed Thanos being one of the Ravagers and generally a good guy.

[The Letter M]

That second episode was a blast. I particularly enjoyed Thanos being one of the Ravagers and generally a good guy.

Seeing Thanos at ALL was honestly one of my favorite parts of the whole episode, especially when trying to convince others that his original quest was still viable. ("That still sounds like genocide...")

-Marc.

[jingle.boy]

That second episode was a blast. I particularly enjoyed Thanos being one of the Ravagers and generally a good guy.

Seeing Thanos at ALL was honestly one of my favorite parts of the whole episode, especially when trying to convince others that his original quest was still viable. ("That still sounds like genocide...")

-Marc.

"Yeah, but it's efficient!"      I really wanted him to look up at Proxima and Obsidian as he was getting his ass kicked and say "all that for a drop of blood".

Lots of fun with that episode, but man, the voice acting is so inconsistent.  No way you could've convinced me that was Karen Gillian.  And Del Torro did a terrible job at re-creating his essence of The Collector.  Didn't recognize his voice or delivery at all - though I did like what they did with The Collector in general.

[The Letter M]

Lots of fun with that episode, but man, the voice acting is so inconsistent.  No way you could've convinced me that was Karen Gillian.  And Del Torro did a terrible job at re-creating his essence of The Collector.  Didn't recognize his voice or delivery at all - though I did like what they did with The Collector in general.

I think because I knew going in that it was Karen Gillan that I was able to pick up on her voice right away. She's definitely doing a different take on her character but given this version of her was never fully abused (if at all) by Thanos, she's lived a very different life and isn't so angry and embittered with revenge and rage. Likewise, because The Collector became a different version of himself, I could dismiss the different take on Benicio del Toro's character. He became a more power-hungry, underworld collector, almost a mob boss with a specific weapons trophy case. I mean, he somehow found a way to get both Cap's shield (which should have technically still be under ice in 2008? but maybe it was an alternate version of him?...) AND Mjolnir, not to mention somehow getting Hela's crown/helmet thing. His reach and power is a lot greater in this timeline, so he's got a bit of a different demeanor than his more subtle-yet-flamboyant version as seen in the main MCU.

-Marc.

[bosk1]

Unfortunately, this episode was more in line with my original thoughts on the series of "is this something we really need?"  It did have a few moments that made me smile.  But otherwise, didn't really care for it, and feel like this is just diluting the MCU quality.

[Adami]

I enjoyed it. It was fun and really sweet and captured the essence of being a hero that Marvel comics does so well.

Was it necessary? Doubtful. Will it play a big role in anything phase 4? Doubtful. But it was fun and I enjoyed it.

[jingle.boy]

I don’t think there will be a lot of What If...? content playing a large role in the MCU movies. Maybe a minor scene here Nd there, but nothing terribly significant.

[MinistroRaven]

We’ll, I really enjoyed it.
I think the only role these episodes will play in phase 4, 5 and others is to show us that ANYTHING is possible from now on due to the multiverse.

How many episodes are left?

[Dream Team]

Jumped the shark for me with Thanos being a bro and what not. Eye-rolling stuff.

[hefdaddy42]

Second episode was interesting for various reasons, but it didn't work for me quite as well as the first one did.

[lonestar]

There certainly was a heady amount of cheese to both episodes, of which I thought was predictable given the overall theme and how the show is being delivered. Fortunately I like cheese, and thought the Thanos shit was hilarious.

[The Letter M]

We’ll, I really enjoyed it.
I think the only role these episodes will play in phase 4, 5 and others is to show us that ANYTHING is possible from now on due to the multiverse.

How many episodes are left?

Supposedly, both seasons 1 and 2 are 9 episodes each, so 7 more for this first season. The release date for season two is TBD.

-Marc.

[Orbert]

I watched the first two and they're about what I expected.  Literally taking the question "What if...?" and filling in the blank and then coming up with a story.  Mostly fun and/or interesting alternate takes on known characters.  Not perfect, but sometimes pretty good storytelling and not a waste of half an hour, either.

[The Letter M]

Hoo boy, episode three is something else! I love that they're tackling something like Fury's Big Week, which I'm sure the more casual MCU fans might have not even known was a thing, let alone that Iron Man 2, Thor, and The Incredible Hulk all took place within a week's time. I honestly was surprised at the twist at the end, the culprit behind it all!

Definitely a very fun episode, and it's a bit weird to see/hear Mark Ruffalo's Banner/Hulk played out during the Incredible Hulk era, but it was cool to revisit some of those moments/characters!

Fans of MCU Phase 1 will probably really enjoy this one, I know I did!

-Marc.

[lonestar]

Totally agree Marc, that was one fun episode for sure. Didn't even make the connection that it was Ruffalo doing Norton era Banner, we've just gotten so used to him in general.

[faizoff]

I loved it, probably my favorite episode so far.

[jingle.boy]

I'm loving all of these.  It's a bummer when you've got 75% of the original voices, then you have to hear someone try to impersonate Ross (for instance).  I joked with jingle.son that even if they'd had ScarJo for BW, they probably would've re-dubbed over her voice given the events of the past month.   

[Adami]

Yea. These are fun stories. It's my least favorite show so far though. Even most of the returning cast are not very good voice actors. The stories also just feel so rushed. Like it's hard to really engage (for me) with much of it cause it's over so soon and everything happens so damn fast.

The story lines are actually cool and fun. I just wish they didn't rush through them and that the voice talent had a better handle on how to be voice talent.

[Dream Team]

Def the best ep so far, Great laughs.

[The Letter M]

Yea. These are fun stories. It's my least favorite show so far though. Even most of the returning cast are not very good voice actors. The stories also just feel so rushed. Like it's hard to really engage (for me) with much of it cause it's over so soon and everything happens so damn fast.

The story lines are actually cool and fun. I just wish they didn't rush through them and that the voice talent had a better handle on how to be voice talent.

Because I enjoy a lot of anime and follow a lot of English dubbing voice actors on social media (especially ones that I have met in person), it always tickles me when folks try to belittle them in ways like saying "voice acting isn't hard", but it really is. It's more than just acting, and there's quite a different skill-set involved than on-screen or stage acting, even though many voice actors have done both, but you can't say that many stage or on-screen actors have done voice acting, and if they have, it probably wasn't as good as a voice actor doing non-VO roles.

You can definitely tell who in the MCU has done some voice over before and who is just trying to ham it up, but that also may be the fault of the script. A lot of voice over tends to get punched up a bit to help sell punchlines or exaggerate (this goes for Western animation with the voices done pre-vis and also for dubbing), so maybe the directors of the voice talent tried to compensate by going harder on the punched up dialog. Either way, this show is a good example of showing someone how difficult really good voice acting can be, and it makes me appreciate the dubbing voice industry even more given how the quality of some dubbed anime has risen over the years!

-Marc.

[hefdaddy42]

I liked this episode a lot.  Much better than last week's IMO.

[bosk1]

I'll return to what I said above about the comics.  "What if...?" was something that, when I saw it on the shelf, I would think something along the lines of, "Eh, maybe someday if I'm just bored, want some Marvel, and there isn't something else to read."  Similar feeling here that gets more entrenched as the series goes on.  If my kids weren't into it, I wouldn't bother.  First episode was fun enough.  The second and third have had a few moments here and there, but otherwise aren't really doing it for me. 

[Orbert]

I guess I'm in the "meh, it's okay" category as well.  As I've said, I don't have a problem asking the question "What if...?" but the answer has to lead to a story I give a damn about, and in this case it just wasn't grabbing me.  Yep, some serious shit went on, but nothing about the resolution of any of it blew me away, and I have trouble getting invested in it because -- canon or not -- part of my brain says it's not "really" happening; it's literally just someone asking a question and then showing us how they think the answer would play out.

[bosk1]

That's a good way of putting it. 

[jingle.boy]

No need to overthink things.  It's just 30 minutes of entertainment.

[lonestar]

No need to overthink things.  It's just 30 minutes of entertainment.

Wrong room for that logic bro.

[axeman90210]

I've enjoyed all three episodes so far as fun, throwaway bits of entertainment. I don't feel that need to see each episode ASAP the first morning like I did with Wandavision and Loki, but the quality is certainly there.

[MinistroRaven]

How can a Hawkeye’s arrow kill Thor?