MIKE MANGINI TALKS ABOUT UPCOMING ALBUM

[MinistroRaven]

FROM HIS FB ACCOUNT:

The Album begins with a drum fill that sounds like something obvious but is not. It's too fast to pick up the slight anomaly of being 3:2 of 7 that fits over 4 of the main 7 notes with 3 of the real 7/16 notes left for the end of the fill. See what I mean? But I can teach it by SHAPE and Feel without calculating it- that's how I came up with it. Shape and Feel. I'm glad I gained the knowledge and pattern recognition to know what it is though so I can explain it. I'll soon be making Master Classes on this and our 1st Song release, as well Private Slots for Zoom.
Other drum parts of the album, especially AVFTTOTW, have parts you have to "know" or there's no way to play them. ie. one drum part is a very long odd time and the entire kit (and kick sound) is played entirely with my hands while my feet are playing a different type of instrument sound in a completely different time signature.
Since this IS Dream Theater, I think fans are entertained by this kind of thing, but also need the simple groove playing and melodies to be able to take a mental break here and there. Not only did JP & JR smoke those melodies while JM and I held the Fort down, but LaBrie utterly slaughtered and nailed them throughout the album that I'm sitting back almost giggling in a lawn chair with a drink waiting for the album as a whole to be heard and evaluated. I'm interested to see how it is received. I like what I like - and like this one. Who knows what the lot will think of it.
Either way, being able to play these parts on all the instruments, or sing them accurately in time, is another story and a whole big bag of fun and defines the priori of the job of being in DT. I'm glad DT fans can enjoy and be entertained by both song content and the act of musicianship. I read a great quote yesterday that to strive for excellence is where to find joy.  (Someone posted it. It is by Author Pearl Buck.) I think this is why critics that are angry are, by definition, void of joy and try to make others void of joy. But it doesn't work on those that choose joy in their spirit and strive for excellence as the quote says. Pretty cool! I never saw it that way. Most DT fans strive for excellence like us, by forging forward finding true joy in digging in, and learning the new material.  So, I'm hoping and waiting to see if this album can create more joy than not!!

[The Letter M]

I was *just* about to share this here. Man, you're quick. Do you just have musicians' pages loaded up and on alert whenever any of them post?

-Marc.

[rab7]

I like what I like - and like this one

Who is this guy? Is he someone whose opinion I should care about?

[romdrums]

This is why I've grown to love Mangini being a part of DT.  I've really come to appreciate his approach to drumming, especially within the context of the band. 

[The Letter M]

I like what I like - and like this one

Who is this guy? Is he someone whose opinion I should care about?

He doesn't seem that important. I'm sure there's tons of folks who don't even care about who he is and/or what he does!

-Marc.

[Architeuthis]

I was *just* about to share this here. Man, you're quick. Do you just have musicians' pages loads up and on alert whenever any of them post? 🤣

-Marc.

"Only A Matter Of Seconds"   

[JediKnight1969]

FROM HIS FB ACCOUNT:

The Album begins with a drum fill that sounds like something obvious but is not. It's too fast to pick up the slight anomaly of being 3:2 of 7 that fits over 4 of the main 7 notes with 3 of the real 7/16 notes left for the end of the fill. See what I mean? But I can teach it by SHAPE and Feel without calculating it- that's how I came up with it. Shape and Feel. I'm glad I gained the knowledge and pattern recognition to know what it is though so I can explain it. I'll soon be making Master Classes on this and our 1st Song release, as well Private Slots for Zoom.
Other drum parts of the album, especially AVFTTOTW, have parts you have to "know" or there's no way to play them. ie. one drum part is a very long odd time and the entire kit (and kick sound) is played entirely with my hands while my feet are playing a different type of instrument sound in a completely different time signature.

I think it moved.

[Architeuthis]

Stay away from those mangos..

[Dedalus]

I like what I like - and like this one

Who is this guy? Is he someone whose opinion I should care about?

Probably not.

[pg1067]

FROM HIS FB ACCOUNT:

The Album begins with a drum fill that sounds like something obvious but is not. It's too fast to pick up the slight anomaly of being 3:2 of 7 that fits over 4 of the main 7 notes....

That's where I stopped reading.   

[Zydar]

FROM HIS FB ACCOUNT:

The Album begins with a drum fill that sounds like something obvious but is not. It's too fast to pick up the slight anomaly of being 3:2 of 7 that fits over 4 of the main 7 notes....

That's where I stopped reading.   

Yeah. This is all just gibberish to me, as a non drummer/musician/Mangini.

[Ben_Jamin]

His feet are playing a different type of instrument sound, while his hands are playing his kit including the kick drum. 

Say what...

[Dream Team]

I actually thought it was a joke post at first. Do you think he's "taking the piss" as they say across the pond?

Edit: Never mind, just read it carefully again and he's dead serious. Love the passion!

[CDrice]

Maybe he was so excited about what he was talking about that he mistyped  It will be interesting if it's what it really is though.

But I always appreciate how passionate he comes across while talking about the music he works on. Even if some of it gets way over my head at times 

[JLa]

the slight anomaly of being 3:2 of 7 that fits over 4 of the main 7 notes with 3 of the real 7/16 notes left for the end of the fill. See what I mean?

Ahhhh, right ...

 

[MarkFitDT]

I like what I like - and like this one

Who is this guy? Is he someone whose opinion I should care about?

Probably not.

He's smart so i wont like the same music as him.

[Ben_Jamin]

the slight anomaly of being 3:2 of 7 that fits over 4 of the main 7 notes with 3 of the real 7/16 notes left for the end of the fill. See what I mean?

Ahhhh, right ...

 

So I am guessing, that section is in 7/16, and he is describing the part that doesn't sound like a complex part, but it actually is when you analyze the timing.   

[emtee]

Mike Mathgini.

[ReaPsTA]

FROM HIS FB ACCOUNT:

The Album begins with a drum fill that sounds like something obvious but is not. It's too fast to pick up the slight anomaly of being 3:2 of 7 that fits over 4 of the main 7 notes with 3 of the real 7/16 notes left for the end of the fill. See what I mean? But I can teach it by SHAPE and Feel without calculating it- that's how I came up with it. Shape and Feel. I'm glad I gained the knowledge and pattern recognition to know what it is though so I can explain it. I'll soon be making Master Classes on this and our 1st Song release, as well Private Slots for Zoom.
Other drum parts of the album, especially AVFTTOTW, have parts you have to "know" or there's no way to play them. ie. one drum part is a very long odd time and the entire kit (and kick sound) is played entirely with my hands while my feet are playing a different type of instrument sound in a completely different time signature.
Since this IS Dream Theater, I think fans are entertained by this kind of thing, but also need the simple groove playing and melodies to be able to take a mental break here and there. Not only did JP & JR smoke those melodies while JM and I held the Fort down, but LaBrie utterly slaughtered and nailed them throughout the album that I'm sitting back almost giggling in a lawn chair with a drink waiting for the album as a whole to be heard and evaluated. I'm interested to see how it is received. I like what I like - and like this one. Who knows what the lot will think of it.
Either way, being able to play these parts on all the instruments, or sing them accurately in time, is another story and a whole big bag of fun and defines the priori of the job of being in DT. I'm glad DT fans can enjoy and be entertained by both song content and the act of musicianship. I read a great quote yesterday that to strive for excellence is where to find joy.  (Someone posted it. It is by Author Pearl Buck.) I think this is why critics that are angry are, by definition, void of joy and try to make others void of joy. But it doesn't work on those that choose joy in their spirit and strive for excellence as the quote says. Pretty cool! I never saw it that way. Most DT fans strive for excellence like us, by forging forward finding true joy in digging in, and learning the new material.  So, I'm hoping and waiting to see if this album can create more joy than not!!

I don't recall MM waxing poetic for PR purposes. Seeing this is a good sign

[Bertielee]

FROM HIS FB ACCOUNT:

The Album begins with a drum fill that sounds like something obvious but is not. It's too fast to pick up the slight anomaly of being 3:2 of 7 that fits over 4 of the main 7 notes with 3 of the real 7/16 notes left for the end of the fill. See what I mean? But I can teach it by SHAPE and Feel without calculating it- that's how I came up with it. Shape and Feel. I'm glad I gained the knowledge and pattern recognition to know what it is though so I can explain it. I'll soon be making Master Classes on this and our 1st Song release, as well Private Slots for Zoom.
Other drum parts of the album, especially AVFTTOTW, have parts you have to "know" or there's no way to play them. ie. one drum part is a very long odd time and the entire kit (and kick sound) is played entirely with my hands while my feet are playing a different type of instrument sound in a completely different time signature.
Since this IS Dream Theater, I think fans are entertained by this kind of thing, but also need the simple groove playing and melodies to be able to take a mental break here and there. Not only did JP & JR smoke those melodies while JM and I held the Fort down, but LaBrie utterly slaughtered and nailed them throughout the album that I'm sitting back almost giggling in a lawn chair with a drink waiting for the album as a whole to be heard and evaluated. I'm interested to see how it is received. I like what I like - and like this one. Who knows what the lot will think of it.
Either way, being able to play these parts on all the instruments, or sing them accurately in time, is another story and a whole big bag of fun and defines the priori of the job of being in DT. I'm glad DT fans can enjoy and be entertained by both song content and the act of musicianship. I read a great quote yesterday that to strive for excellence is where to find joy.  (Someone posted it. It is by Author Pearl Buck.) I think this is why critics that are angry are, by definition, void of joy and try to make others void of joy. But it doesn't work on those that choose joy in their spirit and strive for excellence as the quote says. Pretty cool! I never saw it that way. Most DT fans strive for excellence like us, by forging forward finding true joy in digging in, and learning the new material.  So, I'm hoping and waiting to see if this album can create more joy than not!!

I don't recall MM waxing poetic for PR purposes. Seeing this is a good sign

Yup.

[BeatriceNB]

This is how I'm understanding his post; notated in 7/8 for simplicity's sake (same idea, just not using the smaller subdivisions). And yeah, I know I'm breaking many notation rules here.

[Buddyhunter1]

So who's gonna record their guess as to what the drum fill sounds like which we can then compare to the actual thing when it comes out? 

I seem to recall something similar happened when someone spotted some sheet music in a making-of video for ADTOE or DT12 or something.

[BeatriceNB]

His feet are playing a different type of instrument sound, while his hands are playing his kit including the kick drum. 

Say what...

Marco Minnemann approach, playing the "kick" with a tom/gong drum, and using both feet to play two hi-hats. At least that's what I'm understanding.

[devieira73]

FROM HIS FB ACCOUNT:

The Album begins with a drum fill...

I like that, A LOT
Finally Mangini doing that in a DT album!

[Buddyhunter1]

FROM HIS FB ACCOUNT:

The Album begins with a drum fill...

I like that, A LOT
Finally Mangini doing that in a DT album!

Enigma Machine would like a word

[TheLordOfTheStrings]

So who's gonna record their guess as to what the drum fill sounds like which we can then compare to the actual thing when it comes out? 

I seem to recall something similar happened when someone spotted some sheet music in a making-of video for ADTOE or DT12 or something.

It was a midi file of a section from False Awakening Suite. Those were good times.

[Trav86]

FROM HIS FB ACCOUNT:

The Album begins with a drum fill...

I like that, A LOT
Finally Mangini doing that in a DT album!

Enigma Machine would like a word

Please remind Enigma Machine that it doesn’t start the album.

[gzarruk]

FROM HIS FB ACCOUNT:

The Album begins with a drum fill...

I like that, A LOT
Finally Mangini doing that in a DT album!

Enigma Machine would like a word

Please remind Enigma Machine that it doesn’t start the album.

PBD is the closest thing we've had, so far.

[emtee]

Part of his exuberance is probably because he's finally ecstatic about the way his drums and cymbals sound. I'm also very excited about that aspect of this album. Firepower is one of the best sounding metal albums I've ever heard. If DT15 sounds that good, we're in for a treat.

[devieira73]

FROM HIS FB ACCOUNT:

The Album begins with a drum fill...

I like that, A LOT
Finally Mangini doing that in a DT album!

Enigma Machine would like a word

Please remind Enigma Machine that it doesn’t start the album.

That

[Ben_Jamin]

Part of his exuberance is probably because he's finally ecstatic about the way his drums and cymbals sound. I'm also very excited about that aspect of this album. Firepower is one of the best sounding metal albums I've ever heard. If DT15 sounds that good, we're in for a treat.

That's where I think Jimmy T will get his Production credit from by working more with Mangini with his drum sound, more so than he did on D/T.

He did work with him for Distance Over Time, as evidenced in this interview.

“This record [the new DT album ‘Distance Over Time’] unfolded differently than any other one that I’ve done – because I was a part of that engineering process by default. Over the years, talking to Jimmy T [James Meslin, engineer] about frequencies I just don’t want in my drums – he soaked up all that and then did his thing, basically.

“So what happens is, when we get that initial sound… I said it has to be right because that is the sound that we’ll try to get back to for the beginning of every song so that the album’s consistent. So we hope to get it good enough right there. [Laughs] ‘Alright, it’s gonna work the whole way.’ That’s the first thing.

https://metalwani.com/2019/02/dream-theaters-mike-mangini-explains-his-drum-sound-throws-light-on-claims-of-terrible-drum-sound-on-distance-over-time.html

[Madman Shepherd]

I have no idea what Mangini was saying, but I think it's making me excited.

[RMGadelha]

Yeah, I'm a complete idiot when it comes to music theory, but reading all of that got me very excited. I'm always happy when I see MM happy, considering how he is such a nice dude.

[Dream Team]

FROM HIS FB ACCOUNT:

The Album begins with a drum fill...

I like that, A LOT
Finally Mangini doing that in a DT album!

Enigma Machine would like a word

You’re actually wrong twice. EM is not an album opener, and it doesn’t begin with drums.

[Buddyhunter1]

FROM HIS FB ACCOUNT:

The Album begins with a drum fill...

I like that, A LOT
Finally Mangini doing that in a DT album!

Enigma Machine would like a word

You’re actually wrong twice. EM is not an album opener, and it doesn’t begin with drums.

I know, somehow I thought devieira was implying there haven't been any good fills on a Mangini album.