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« Reply #665 on: June 06, 2022, 09:54:09 PM »
Bought Live in NYC 1993 last Friday. Iíd never heard Eve before, itís pretty fantastic. I tried to do a search for some discussion about it but couldnít find anything, is there a thread about it somewhere?

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« Reply #666 on: June 06, 2022, 10:05:22 PM »
Bought Live in NYC 1993 last Friday. Iíd never heard Eve before, itís pretty fantastic. I tried to do a search for some discussion about it but couldnít find anything, is there a thread about it somewhere?

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=35281.0

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Oh never noticed that thread. Thanks a lot!

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« Reply #667 on: June 07, 2022, 06:15:54 AM »
Seeing that everyone has a perfect (and different) version of FII, I'm really conviced that FII should have been a double album, with Metropolis pt. 2 finished and basically the rest of the songs closer to its original arrangements. Personally, I'm sure that would like this way, with just a little nuances, like keeping the lyrics, the faster tempo and that drum intro of You Not Me; keeping the demo arrangement of Take Away My Pain; keeping the studio arrangement of Lines in the Sand and adding that little (and super cool!) keyboard pattern of Hell's Kitchen (2:47 to 3:01) on the demo version of Burning My Soul .

Usually, I tend to go with the final product (the actual FII album) for the songs that made the cut, but I think a "better" version of the album would be a double, including those 5 other completed songs (not counting Met. 2).

I don't reach for FII very often, but when I do, it's the "Director's Cut", 2CD version.  I could do without the raw Metropolis, but I really like those songs that didn't make the final album.  I think they are strong (certainly stronger than some of the material that made the cut).

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« Reply #668 on: June 07, 2022, 09:13:42 AM »
Bought Live in NYC 1993 last Friday. Iíd never heard Eve before, itís pretty fantastic. I tried to do a search for some discussion about it but couldnít find anything, is there a thread about it somewhere?

I'm surprised that the dedicated thread exists.  Eve is fine for what it is, but it's little more than background filler.


Then we'd have a double album of weak material instead of a single album.

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« Reply #669 on: June 09, 2022, 10:45:14 PM »
I just remembered that the special edition for The Astonishing novel had a bonus disc or something like that containing some demos from the TA sessions. I don't think a lot of people got or even know about these, so I'd love to see those demos being offered as a new LNFA release someday. I don't even know what was in those demos tbh :P

I bought the novel specifically for the demos. 10 tracks, about 28 minutes. They were a download, not on a disc at all. Fairly interesting, but really was just one song (The Gift of Music) from rough idea, through different demos and mixes, including the album mix... and then four short unused ideas. Interesting, but I'd hope for more if there ever was an Astonishing Demos disc.

1. TGOM iPhone Seed #1
2. TGOM iPhone Seed #2
3. TGOM Studio Guide Track (gtr. & keys)
4. TGOM Early Gtr. RUFF 2015-04-07
5. TGOM Instrumental RUFF Mix 2015-06-08
6. TGOM Final Album Master Mix
7. Unused Song Idea #1
8. Unused Song Idea #2
9. Unused Song Idea #3
10. Unused Song Idea #4

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« Reply #670 on: June 09, 2022, 11:18:42 PM »
I just remembered that the special edition for The Astonishing novel had a bonus disc or something like that containing some demos from the TA sessions. I don't think a lot of people got or even know about these, so I'd love to see those demos being offered as a new LNFA release someday. I don't even know what was in those demos tbh :P

I bought the novel specifically for the demos. 10 tracks, about 28 minutes. They were a download, not on a disc at all. Fairly interesting, but really was just one song (The Gift of Music) from rough idea, through different demos and mixes, including the album mix... and then four short unused ideas. Interesting, but I'd hope for more if there ever was an Astonishing Demos disc.

1. TGOM iPhone Seed #1
2. TGOM iPhone Seed #2
3. TGOM Studio Guide Track (gtr. & keys)
4. TGOM Early Gtr. RUFF 2015-04-07
5. TGOM Instrumental RUFF Mix 2015-06-08
6. TGOM Final Album Master Mix
7. Unused Song Idea #1
8. Unused Song Idea #2
9. Unused Song Idea #3
10. Unused Song Idea #4

Thank you! Definitely the only interesting things there (to me) are the last 4 tracks, and at 28 mins overall, and that's counting the album version of TGOM, it's definitely not something I'd want to see just by itself as a new release.
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #671 on: June 10, 2022, 08:11:45 AM »
Has it been revealed here yet that The Number Of The Beast is the next release?

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« Reply #672 on: June 10, 2022, 11:27:56 AM »
Has it been revealed here yet that The Number Of The Beast is the next release?

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Yep. That and Live in Berlin (2019) is the following release.

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« Reply #673 on: June 10, 2022, 01:15:32 PM »
Has it been revealed here yet that The Number Of The Beast is the next release?

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« Reply #674 on: June 10, 2022, 01:59:29 PM »
Has it been revealed here yet that The Number Of The Beast is the next release?

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Yep. That and Live in Berlin (2019) is the following release.

Ah okay, I went back a few pages here and didn't see any mention of it. I only briefly saw a post about it kn Facebook earlier this morning .

Do we know what the August release will be yet?

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« Reply #675 on: June 10, 2022, 03:06:26 PM »
Has it been revealed here yet that The Number Of The Beast is the next release?

-Marc.

Yep. That and Live in Berlin (2019) is the following release.

Ah okay, I went back a few pages here and didn't see any mention of it. I only briefly saw a post about it kn Facebook earlier this morning .

Do we know what the August release will be yet?

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Live in Berlin is listed for an August release here https://www.amazon.com/Dream-Theater/dp/B09XP71ML9/ref=mp_s_a_1_29?keywords=Dream+Theater&qid=1654895110&s=music&sr=1-29
but there's nothing listed or announced for July (yet?).
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #676 on: June 10, 2022, 04:21:18 PM »
I just remembered that the special edition for The Astonishing novel had a bonus disc or something like that containing some demos from the TA sessions. I don't think a lot of people got or even know about these, so I'd love to see those demos being offered as a new LNFA release someday. I don't even know what was in those demos tbh :P

I bought the novel specifically for the demos. 10 tracks, about 28 minutes. They were a download, not on a disc at all. Fairly interesting, but really was just one song (The Gift of Music) from rough idea, through different demos and mixes, including the album mix... and then four short unused ideas. Interesting, but I'd hope for more if there ever was an Astonishing Demos disc.

1. TGOM iPhone Seed #1
2. TGOM iPhone Seed #2
3. TGOM Studio Guide Track (gtr. & keys)
4. TGOM Early Gtr. RUFF 2015-04-07
5. TGOM Instrumental RUFF Mix 2015-06-08
6. TGOM Final Album Master Mix
7. Unused Song Idea #1
8. Unused Song Idea #2
9. Unused Song Idea #3
10. Unused Song Idea #4

Whoa. I didn't know about this. I mean, I probably did but I was so disappointed in TA that I didn't bother following the band much at the time and have forgotten. If I remember correctly, the novel was pricey so I didn't bother picking it up even though I try to buy EVERYTHING. I would definitely buy a stand alone release of that bonus disc though.

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« Reply #677 on: June 11, 2022, 09:04:14 PM »

Does anyone have a full list of what LNFA albums were released and when?

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« Reply #678 on: June 11, 2022, 09:45:08 PM »

Does anyone have a full list of what LNFA albums were released and when?

Doesn't have dates, but it's organized from newer to older: https://dreamtheater.net/lnfa/?fbclid=IwAR1GqRn4SadhTG-TpIURSJ4qGR_HNmqKULIvkVHnO89jl7ih6ME-gd9xBWU
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."


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« Reply #681 on: June 21, 2022, 02:09:48 PM »
I'm surprised you don't have this, Hef.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #682 on: June 21, 2022, 02:30:33 PM »
I'm surprised you don't have this, Hef.
I've got, um, a version of it.
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« Reply #683 on: June 23, 2022, 08:36:52 AM »
September 9th
Images and Words Demos (1989-1991)
https://www.fnac.com/a17125844/Dream-Theater-Lost-Not-Forgotten-Archives-Images-And-Words-Demos-1989-1991-CD-album

Definitely pick this one up if you don't have it. Sad that the liner notes won't be included. This and the WDADU need those liner notes to really get the full picture. If anybody wants scans of those (or any others) from the original releases I could probably get those for you.

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« Reply #684 on: June 23, 2022, 10:06:06 AM »
September 9th
Images and Words Demos (1989-1991)
https://www.fnac.com/a17125844/Dream-Theater-Lost-Not-Forgotten-Archives-Images-And-Words-Demos-1989-1991-CD-album

Definitely pick this one up if you don't have it. Sad that the liner notes won't be included. This and the WDADU need those liner notes to really get the full picture. If anybody wants scans of those (or any others) from the original releases I could probably get those for you.

The Discogs page for Ytse Jam Records has scans under each individual album. Just click on the album cover on each album's individual page and scans should pop up. At least they're there for the WDADU and IAW demos pages that I checked.

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« Reply #685 on: June 23, 2022, 11:30:31 AM »
Does this mean we'll end up getting the Bucharest and Santiago shows? Because that would be SWEET.

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« Reply #686 on: June 23, 2022, 11:37:54 AM »
Does this mean we'll end up getting the Bucharest and Santiago shows? Because that would be SWEET.

Not sure. They haven't announced any videos for The LNFA yet, and I'm skeptical since they skipped the video for WDADR.

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« Reply #687 on: June 23, 2022, 11:57:18 AM »
Bucharest is the item from YJR that I felt like I really missed out on, so I hope we'll get some videos, including that one.
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« Reply #688 on: June 23, 2022, 12:19:42 PM »
The Bucharest 2002 show is probably one of my favorite Dream Theater shows. Its an amazing setlist, James is pretty great(aside from when he trips and falls  :lol ) and the band is firing on all cylinders (Petruccis solo before Scarred  :metal )

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« Reply #689 on: June 23, 2022, 12:44:24 PM »
September 9th
Images and Words Demos (1989-1991)
https://www.fnac.com/a17125844/Dream-Theater-Lost-Not-Forgotten-Archives-Images-And-Words-Demos-1989-1991-CD-album

Definitely pick this one up if you don't have it. Sad that the liner notes won't be included. This and the WDADU need those liner notes to really get the full picture. If anybody wants scans of those (or any others) from the original releases I could probably get those for you.

The Discogs page for Ytse Jam Records has scans under each individual album. Just click on the album cover on each album's individual page and scans should pop up. At least they're there for the WDADU and IAW demos pages that I checked.

-Marc.

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Everyone needs to check these out. Fascinating stories, especially about the several vocalists that were almost official including one they wanted to get hair extensions, one who was official for half a show, and one poor sap that was basically official and then they heard about a certain Canadian. The last guy now does flamenco music and is really good at it!

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« Reply #690 on: June 23, 2022, 02:43:40 PM »
Does this mean we'll end up getting the Bucharest and Santiago shows? Because that would be SWEET.

Not sure. They haven't announced any videos for The LNFA yet, and I'm skeptical since they skipped the video for WDADR.

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Yeah, I'm starting to get a little worried, as Bucharest is my #1 most-wanted YJR release.
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« Reply #691 on: June 23, 2022, 08:24:27 PM »
Does this mean we'll end up getting the Bucharest and Santiago shows? Because that would be SWEET.

Not sure. They haven't announced any videos for The LNFA yet, and I'm skeptical since they skipped the video for WDADR.

-Marc.

Yeah, I'm starting to get a little worried, as Bucharest is my #1 most-wanted YJR release.

I'd be ok with just the getting the audio, but that's my most anticipated re-release as well.
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #692 on: June 23, 2022, 08:32:32 PM »
Iíve got the DVDs. Would love that audio.

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« Reply #693 on: June 24, 2022, 08:53:10 AM »
Iíve got the DVDs. Would love that audio.

Same here.

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« Reply #696 on: June 27, 2022, 03:36:40 AM »
https://auto.mercadolibre.cl/MLC-1011181342-porsche-macan-s-30-un-dueno-2017-_JM

Image number 12 is totally epic and unexpected.

 :metal

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« Reply #697 on: June 27, 2022, 09:45:29 AM »
https://auto.mercadolibre.cl/MLC-1011181342-porsche-macan-s-30-un-dueno-2017-_JM

Image number 12 is totally epic and unexpected.

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I kinda want to buy a car just because it has played Dream Theater, lol.


My 2007 Kia Sedona is up for grabs.  :lol
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« Reply #698 on: June 28, 2022, 03:04:11 PM »
Iíve got the DVDs. Would love that audio.

Just rip the audio from it. That's what I did. :)
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« Reply #699 on: June 28, 2022, 03:13:15 PM »
Iíve got the DVDs. Would love that audio.

Just rip the audio from it. That's what I did. :)

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