Coronavirus Thread v.2

[hunnus2000]

Spiritus,

I'm truly sorry for your loss. Virtual hugs. 

[Cool Chris]

Thank you for feeling comfortable posting the update, Spiritus. We are all here for you with our sympathies.

I guess I could say I have been lucky for I have only lost my grand parents (my dads, my mom lost her parents as a child) from natural causes and while we obviously grieved it is part of life.

This is me. I remember all four of my grandparents dying, and while each passing was sad it their own right, because they all lived rich, full lives, it seemed ok. I've never lost anyone where I felt they died "before their time" or in a way outside of "natural causes/old age."

[TAC]

That's awful Spiritus. Sorry to hear.

[jingle.boy]

Goddamn.  So sorry to hear this.

[cramx3]

Sorry for your loss Spiritus 

[Harmony]

My condolences for the loss of your mentor, Spiritus.

[Cool Chris]

The rest of the world in 2020-2021: "Well, we implemented all the Covid restrictions we could think of."
China in 2022: "Amateurs."

https://www.yahoo.com/video/control-soul-desire-freedom-shocking-191048377.html

Footage circulated on Chinese social-media app Weibo purported to show a drone flying over apartment buildings where residents stepped out onto their balconies. It was not clear when the footage was filmed.

“Please comply with Covid restrictions,” a voice says over the drone’s loudspeaker, according to the Economist senior China correspondent Alice Su. “Control your soul’s desire for freedom. Do not open the window or sing.”

All residents who test positive for Covid are required to go to a hospital or other quarantine facility. Video allegedly from one makeshift hospital in Shanghai, shared by CNN, appeared to show patients fighting over basic necessities including food:

Unverified photos and videos of children who tested positive for Covid being separated from their parents have circulated widely on Chinese social media, sparking an outcry from residents.

[Zoom E]

The rest of the world in 2020-2021: "Well, we implemented all the Covid restrictions we could think of."
China in 2022: "Amateurs."

https://www.yahoo.com/video/control-soul-desire-freedom-shocking-191048377.html

Footage circulated on Chinese social-media app Weibo purported to show a drone flying over apartment buildings where residents stepped out onto their balconies. It was not clear when the footage was filmed.

“Please comply with Covid restrictions,” a voice says over the drone’s loudspeaker, according to the Economist senior China correspondent Alice Su. “Control your soul’s desire for freedom. Do not open the window or sing.”

All residents who test positive for Covid are required to go to a hospital or other quarantine facility. Video allegedly from one makeshift hospital in Shanghai, shared by CNN, appeared to show patients fighting over basic necessities including food:

Unverified photos and videos of children who tested positive for Covid being separated from their parents have circulated widely on Chinese social media, sparking an outcry from residents.

China is going insanely overboard with quarantining. 23,000 cases in a city of 29 million, and only 1,100 of those cases are symptomatic.

[ProfessorPeart]

I already had a bad feeling about this. It's coming around again. I can only imagine Illinois won't be far behind as some southern counties are already over CDC thresholds.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/philadelphia-to-reinstate-indoor-mask-mandate-amid-surge-in-new-covid-cases-01649708225?siteid=yhoof2

[hunnus2000]

I already had a bad feeling about this. It's coming around again. I can only imagine Illinois won't be far behind as some southern counties are already over CDC thresholds.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/philadelphia-to-reinstate-indoor-mask-mandate-amid-surge-in-new-covid-cases-01649708225?siteid=yhoof2

Yeah - I struggled whether to get my second booster shot and was considering whether I should wait for fall but my wife has severe asthma, so I didn't think it's worth the risk. I got the shot on Friday at 10:30 but I dind't start feeling the effects until 3:00pm Saturday - right smack dab in the middle of a production upgrade. Ugh.. was all better by noon on Sunday.

I am not surprised by the uptick. It's inevitable, exspecially for those who refuse to get vaccinated.

[Dublagent66]

My 1st booster (3rd shot) is coming up in the 3rd week of May.

[jingle.boy]

The thing is, these newer strains of Omicron (and we probably don't have to wait much longer for Pi to come along) are jumping the vax's.  It's inevitable really, the vax's were developed to combat Alpha, and we're now a dozen+ iterations down the line.  I know a few people that have caught COVID it twice, and read a headline recently that there are cases of people catching a second case within months of their first.  Yay antibodies!.

[Stadler]

I already had a bad feeling about this. It's coming around again. I can only imagine Illinois won't be far behind as some southern counties are already over CDC thresholds.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/philadelphia-to-reinstate-indoor-mask-mandate-amid-surge-in-new-covid-cases-01649708225?siteid=yhoof2

Yeah - I struggled whether to get my second booster shot and was considering whether I should wait for fall but my wife has severe asthma, so I didn't think it's worth the risk. I got the shot on Friday at 10:30 but I dind't start feeling the effects until 3:00pm Saturday - right smack dab in the middle of a production upgrade. Ugh.. was all better by noon on Sunday.

I am not surprised by the uptick. It's inevitable, exspecially for those who refuse to get vaccinated.

Well, if like Chad says, it's jumping the vax, that's not really a major point anymore.

[hunnus2000]

I already had a bad feeling about this. It's coming around again. I can only imagine Illinois won't be far behind as some southern counties are already over CDC thresholds.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/philadelphia-to-reinstate-indoor-mask-mandate-amid-surge-in-new-covid-cases-01649708225?siteid=yhoof2

Yeah - I struggled whether to get my second booster shot and was considering whether I should wait for fall but my wife has severe asthma, so I didn't think it's worth the risk. I got the shot on Friday at 10:30 but I dind't start feeling the effects until 3:00pm Saturday - right smack dab in the middle of a production upgrade. Ugh.. was all better by noon on Sunday.

I am not surprised by the uptick. It's inevitable, exspecially for those who refuse to get vaccinated.

Well, if like Chad says, it's jumping the vax, that's not really a major point anymore.

The evidence from the last surge showed that the vast majority of hospitalizations were to do the unvaxxed.

[Dublagent66]

I already had a bad feeling about this. It's coming around again. I can only imagine Illinois won't be far behind as some southern counties are already over CDC thresholds.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/philadelphia-to-reinstate-indoor-mask-mandate-amid-surge-in-new-covid-cases-01649708225?siteid=yhoof2

Yeah - I struggled whether to get my second booster shot and was considering whether I should wait for fall but my wife has severe asthma, so I didn't think it's worth the risk. I got the shot on Friday at 10:30 but I dind't start feeling the effects until 3:00pm Saturday - right smack dab in the middle of a production upgrade. Ugh.. was all better by noon on Sunday.

I am not surprised by the uptick. It's inevitable, exspecially for those who refuse to get vaccinated.

Well, if like Chad says, it's jumping the vax, that's not really a major point anymore.

The evidence from the last surge showed that the vast majority of hospitalizations were to do the unvaxxed.

They're talking about an uptick in cases, not hospitalizations.

[cramx3]

There's no doubt there will be another covid wave, and another and so on.  This is life as we know it for the foreseeable future and I'm not concerned much at all at this time. 

[Harmony]

Reported case increases are essentially meaningless as many (most?) people are testing at home and not reporting positive tests.  Looking at hospitalizations is a metric worth noting but often lags behind what is currently happening in your community.

I recommend monitoring the waste water tracking.  https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#wastewater-surveillance

Found this graph on Twitter which claims to show % covid increased in the last 15 days for some cities based on data from the above link as of yesterday.

[jingle.boy]

Ontario has "officially" declared a 6th wave.  And while it's jumping the vax, the vax still is the best safeguard against hospitalizations and/or severe outcomes.  As Harmony said, case counts are meaningless at this stage of the pandemic.  Hospitalizations (although a lagging indicator of spread) are the metric that needs to be monitored and managed as best as possible - and that happens thru vacc'n, masking, and distancing.

[Orbert]

Yep, people who've been vaccinated can still get it, and those who've had it can get it again.  It's a virus.  The important thing is that your symptoms will be less severe.  Evidence for that is overwhelming.  A bad cold for a week versus a few months in the hospital on a ventilator and likely permanent damage to multiple systems.  The shot is still worth it.

[cramx3]

Reported case increases are essentially meaningless as many (most?) people are testing at home and not reporting positive tests.  Looking at hospitalizations is a metric worth noting but often lags behind what is currently happening in your community.

I recommend monitoring the waste water tracking.  https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#wastewater-surveillance

Found this graph on Twitter which claims to show % covid increased in the last 15 days for some cities based on data from the above link as of yesterday.

This was brought up on CNN today https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/12/health/cases-rise-ba-2/index.html

Beyond case counts, which may be a less reliable pandemic metric because testing numbers have dropped, coronavirus levels in wastewater are telling a largely reassuring story.
Wastewater monitoring is considered a reliable warning of what's on the way. US numbers are trending up slightly but are still at one of the lowest levels seen since July, according to Biobot Analytics, a company that analyzes wastewater samples from across the country.

[DragonAttack]

I am co-chair at a HS pantry for an organization called 'Student Support Network'.  During our three hours at the school today, my co-chair got a text from her husband that he tested positive.  They had relatives in from Jersey over the weekend (all vaxxed, all boosted once or twice).

Well, she tested positive upon arriving home.  At least we were both masked 95% of the time during 'work', always masked when within six feet of each other.  I'm negative now, but it suxx that my wife and I have to isolate distance-wise for the next few days.  Yes, we're both vaxxed and one time boosted.  We're definitely getting the second booster much sooner than planned.  We're lucky!

And, darn, we had a rib roast to attend on Friday night.

Had a false positive test, and then two negatives so far 48 hours later.

[Dublagent66]

Strange thing I noticed.  Before the pandemic, I never realized how much of a pain in the ass it is going into the office.  Even 3 days a week is a fucking pain.  Everyone is now working for Thursday afternoons as we head home and don't have to go back in until the following Tuesday.  It's almost like a 4 day weekend.

[Zoom E]

Strange thing I noticed.  Before the pandemic, I never realized how much of a pain in the ass it is going into the office.  Even 3 days a week is a fucking pain.  Everyone is now working for Thursday afternoons as we head home and don't have to go back in until the following Tuesday.  It's almost like a 4 day weekend.

I’ve only had to go into the office about once a month during the pandemic, and even that seems like way too much effort.

[TAC]

Puleeze.

You guys are wussies.

[Dublagent66]

Puleeze.

You guys are wussies.

Actually, it's not as bad as listening to Power Windows. 

[jingle.boy]

Yesterday ....

1st day of new job.  All day in-person strategy session, followed by social drinks food.  At the strategy session in the office, I'm the only one of about 30 people that came with a mask.  It was a large space, we're all spread out, so I ditched it after breakfast/coffee.  It felt pretty safe and secure.

Went to the bar/pub, wearing a mask inside - again, I'm the only of our group wearing a mask, and hardly anyone in the whole place has one other than the staff.  The one guy I'm sitting next to for about 5-10 minutes while I had my mask off for ONE drink, and stuffed some nachos and pizza in my mouth to quell my hunger, sends a note to the group this morning that he tested positive.

JFC.  My first time out in a public setting like this, or any kind of large social gathering (other than movie theaters), since March of '20, and despite all the precautions I take, I'm directly exposed to COVID sans masks.  So, I (and the rest of the jingle.family will be somewhat be on pins and needles until probably Tuesday or Wednesday before I'll feel "clear".

FFS.

This ... THIS ... is the kind of shit that makes me take the precautions I do (I got no ill-will towards the other guy, it's just a random fucking thing - this was his first crowded gathering in 2022 - though, if he tested positive just 16 hours after the gathering, it's unlikely he caught it yesterday).  All the power to you guys that have avoided it so far, and are comfortable being out in public maskless in crowded spaces.  It's still a fucking crapshoot.

[TAC]

Chad, is the jingle family at a particular risk...obviously you don't have answer that..

I mean, I know being sick blows, but I assume you're all vaccinated. Even if you do test positive, don't you have confidence that you're protected by the vaccine?

[wolfking]

Yesterday ....

1st day of new job.  All day in-person strategy session, followed by social drinks food.  At the strategy session in the office, I'm the only one of about 30 people that came with a mask.  It was a large space, we're all spread out, so I ditched it after breakfast/coffee.  It felt pretty safe and secure.

Went to the bar/pub, wearing a mask inside - again, I'm the only of our group wearing a mask, and hardly anyone in the whole place has one other than the staff.  The one guy I'm sitting next to for about 5-10 minutes while I had my mask off for ONE drink, and stuffed some nachos and pizza in my mouth to quell my hunger, sends a note to the group this morning that he tested positive.

JFC.  My first time out in a public setting like this, or any kind of large social gathering (other than movie theaters), since March of '20, and despite all the precautions I take, I'm directly exposed to COVID sans masks.  So, I (and the rest of the jingle.family will be somewhat be on pins and needles until probably Tuesday or Wednesday before I'll feel "clear".

FFS.

This ... THIS ... is the kind of shit that makes me take the precautions I do (I got no ill-will towards the other guy, it's just a random fucking thing - this was his first crowded gathering in 2022 - though, if he tested positive just 16 hours after the gathering, it's unlikely he caught it yesterday).  All the power to you guys that have avoided it so far, and are comfortable being out in public maskless in crowded spaces.  It's still a fucking crapshoot.

Stress less man, you'll be fine.

Plus, it's a new job social thing, you can't avoid that sort of setting just because you 'might' get COVID.

I don't go out fucking anywhere and still got it somehow!

[wolfking]

So I got COVID about two weeks ago.  I'm not vaccinated at all.  For me, it was about 2 days of body aches, fever with a sore throat and fatigue.  Was coughing up some shit for a few days but wasn't bedridden at all.  Was still going to work outside of hours so I didn't come in contact with anyone.  For me it was like a normal flu.  If COVID wasn't a thing, I would have carried on as normal.

[Stadler]

Obviously I feel bad for jingle and the jingle family, and it goes without saying that I hope no one in the clan gets it, but I'm not sure I can live that way.   Man plans and God laughs.

[jingle.boy]

Obviously I feel bad for jingle and the jingle family, and it goes without saying that I hope no one in the clan gets it, but I'm not sure I can live that way.   Man plans and God laughs.

Well, no positive test (yet), but I've run the gauntlet of COVID symptoms since about dinnertime on Saturday - extremely sore throat, tight chest, cough, aches, intestinal issues, coughing up phlegm.  Only need nausea and fever to complete the set.

And to answer your question Tim... yes, both jingle.kids suffered from asthmas as children.  It's largely a non-issue, but who knows how they'd handle a respiratory virus.

I'm quite thankful that the person that told the group Friday morning he tested positive, because I've been able to mask and isolate since then - and it seems the virus has spared the rest of the jingle.family.

I guess my earlier point was that if I - as a very risk averse person taking many precautions most other people don't - can get this, it just goes to show how easily it spreads.

[Stadler]

Did you test positive (I hope not)?




Look, I'm not interested in arguing with you when your health is at stake, and the ONLY think I want you to take from my posts here is that when it comes to your health, I hope you and your family get through this relatively scott-free.  But there ARE flaws in your logical conclusion based on one data point.

[Lethean]

Come on guys.  There's no need to even suggest that there might be an argument... And is it really, after everything that's happened over the last few years and the things we've read from others in this very thread, hard to imagine why someone would be concerned?  If someone got it and it was mild and no big deal, that's great.  We can only hope it's like that for everyone.  But it's not a head scratcher why someone would be concerned.

[King Postwhore]

Missing 2 things Stads.

1. When you're sick before covid, a high majority stay home.

2.  You have to know the mindset of the people around you that influence your situation.

[Stadler]

Missing 2 things Stads.

1. When you're sick before covid, a high majority stay home.

2.  You have to know the mindset of the people around you that influence your situation.

And number 2 was kind of where I was going; how can you?   I didn't think I said "not to be concerned", outright, but there are things we control and things we don't, and even the things we control it's not an absolute.   I can't go around worrying about that meteor that didn't hit me.