Coronavirus Thread v.2

[Skeever]

Yes... full disclosure I am the parent of an under 12.

As of now, it's hard to say. We've got him all his other shots. His pediatrician hasn't said one word about a COVID vax, though. He deals with some form of asthma too, though, which leads me to believe the benefits would outweigh the risks. But it's a really tough call, whenever that bridge needs to be crossed. That's why, to me, vaccines are not and have never been the TOTAL answer. But enough people who can get them and feel safe doing so (I'm in this category) need to do so in order to mitigate the risks of everyone out there with legitimate questions and concerns. Because if that doesn't happen there are indeed a lot of people going to be at risk and unnecessarily so. 

[lonestar]

I'm afraid that this'll turn into a seasonal thing where well have to get a variant shot annually, like the flu.


On a side note, just got word my main worker and delivery guy will be out until he gets vaccinated, the company I contract for drew the line. I've been telling him for months it would happen, and now he's all fucking surprised. Fucking dipshit.

[Ben_Jamin]

Another slightly off topic subject that irks me is this push for a 3rd round of vaccine.  At this point, there is not much evidence to suggest it is necessary.  And yes, that could change.  But there are still many places in the world where folks who want the vaccine cannot even get a first dose in their arms.  Ethically how do we all sit with that?  Personally, I think that is absolutely absurd.

Ethically? Probably the same way I deal with feeling lucky to have been born in the US. I'm going to have a dinner tonight right?

It is indeed sickening to think there are other humans that have to go through what they go through based solely on where they happen to have been born.

It's not sickening. That is just how life is. Life is not butterflies and rainbows. Life is in reality, cruel and hard. And these people whom "You(in general)" consider to be helpless without a vaccine, likely do not want it because they are in their belief their own medicines and ways of life, their lifestyle they've been doing since the dawn of time, is all they need to survive.

Entitlement over others is a big issue with people. And this entitlement leads to entitlement over another persons decisions and choices as they do not align with yours.

[Ben_Jamin]

Another slightly off topic subject that irks me is this push for a 3rd round of vaccine.  At this point, there is not much evidence to suggest it is necessary.  And yes, that could change.  But there are still many places in the world where folks who want the vaccine cannot even get a first dose in their arms.  Ethically how do we all sit with that?  Personally, I think that is absolutely absurd.

Ethically? Probably the same way I deal with feeling lucky to have been born in the US. I'm going to have a dinner tonight right?

It is indeed sickening to think there are other humans that have to go through what they go through based solely on where they happen to have been born.

In my mind I just see the pharma company executives looking like Mr. Burns at the thought of another round.

I know....I know....we should be grateful and I am to the scientists who made the vaccine.  It's just.....

Of course they are....It's why I posted that possible Tomato Vaccine, and the idea of Edible Vaccines. But that is dismissed and not even considered because of that mindset of profit gains from marketing and selling their product. Putting slander on the other vaccines on the market, which creates a monopoly of vaccines. Like how patenting life made Monsanto patent seeds, and how that affected all the farmers. Which also means you can patent vaccines and viruses.

Everything in this world now has become a product, that the entire system of the world is ran under the economic mindset and values for the economic growth of profit gains.

I'm afraid that this'll turn into a seasonal thing where well have to get a variant shot annually, like the flu.


On a side note, just got word my main worker and delivery guy will be out until he gets vaccinated, the company I contract for drew the line. I've been telling him for months it would happen, and now he's all fucking surprised. Fucking dipshit.

And people will not want to get constant booster shots every year, so most people that are currently vaccinated will not want to get the booster shots.

[TAC]

Another slightly off topic subject that irks me is this push for a 3rd round of vaccine.  At this point, there is not much evidence to suggest it is necessary.  And yes, that could change.  But there are still many places in the world where folks who want the vaccine cannot even get a first dose in their arms.  Ethically how do we all sit with that?  Personally, I think that is absolutely absurd.

Ethically? Probably the same way I deal with feeling lucky to have been born in the US. I'm going to have a dinner tonight right?

It is indeed sickening to think there are other humans that have to go through what they go through based solely on where they happen to have been born.

It's not sickening. That is just how life is. Life is not butterflies and rainbows. Life is in reality, cruel and hard.

Yeah, and it's sickening too.

[TAC]

In my mind I just see the pharma company executives looking like Mr. Burns at the thought of another round.

Sure, but I have zero energy in my life to concern myself with that.

[Ben_Jamin]

Another slightly off topic subject that irks me is this push for a 3rd round of vaccine.  At this point, there is not much evidence to suggest it is necessary.  And yes, that could change.  But there are still many places in the world where folks who want the vaccine cannot even get a first dose in their arms.  Ethically how do we all sit with that?  Personally, I think that is absolutely absurd.

Ethically? Probably the same way I deal with feeling lucky to have been born in the US. I'm going to have a dinner tonight right?

It is indeed sickening to think there are other humans that have to go through what they go through based solely on where they happen to have been born.

It's not sickening. That is just how life is. Life is not butterflies and rainbows. Life is in reality, cruel and hard.

Yeah, and it's sickening too.

Yup, and we do things to life itself that causes it to become even more sickening and worse off for all of us that live on this Earth. And this is from other things besides not taking a vaccine.

[TAC]

 

 

[Ben_Jamin]

 

We put stuff in our foods for convenience of not having to grow a garden.

We put stuff in the air for convenience to not have to walk and spend lots of time to travel across the pond.

These things have an effect on our overall health, and also have an effect on the quality of life. These things cause sickness for animals, plants, and water life. This is why we fought and stood against the pipeline. As the effect of the spills will have a long term effect on our future generations.

It's why I say. If we want to look in the longterm of not getting these future mutations, what is one doing for themselves besides vaccines. What is one doing to not develop unhealthy conditions that are easily preventable by a simple lifestyle change?

[TAC]

 

We put stuff in our foods for convenience of not having to grow a garden.

My wife has tried to grow a garden, but I can't live on one fucking zucchini and a couple of small green tomatoes a month.

[Ben_Jamin]

 

We put stuff in our foods for convenience of not having to grow a garden.

My wife has tried to grow a garden, but I can't live on one fucking zucchini and a couple of small green tomatoes a month.

And that's the consequence of having urban areas. As you put more people in an enclosed area by building up and relying on outside sources for survival needs.

But, as is said. Life isn't easy. It's hard. And it's what we have to do if we want the best quality food that has all the nutrients our body needs to keep us healthy and strong. Or else, we sacrifice that nutrition for the product that has chemicals that help it stay more fresh, be so big, and last on your counter longer than the one freshly picked from the garden or tree. Which then we end up lacking these nutrients and get illnesses because we are not getting these nutrients our bodies need to work properly. All because it's more convenient and easier and requires less physical work to go to the grocery store.

Gardening is not as simple as people think it is either. There's a lot of things to know, like the soil, the plants and their habitats, dealing with the weather and the invasive bugs, like the squash bugs. It's a lot of work. This is what the farmers do for all the produce and products in the grocery stores. Food still has to grow somewhere and someone still has to do the farming.

But check this out...

 I Grew and Foraged 100% of My Food for an Entire Year

[King Postwhore]

 

We put stuff in our foods for convenience of not having to grow a garden.

My wife has tried to grow a garden, but I can't live on one fucking zucchini and a couple of small green tomatoes a month.

And that's the consequence of having urban areas. As you put more people in an enclosed area by building up and relying on outside sources for survival needs. [/url]

Baloney.   Our garden kicks ass. It takes a while to prosper.

The first time you try to play Stairway to Heaven it sounds like shit. But in time, with practice,  you own it.  Just like gardening.

[TAC]

 

We put stuff in our foods for convenience of not having to grow a garden.

My wife has tried to grow a garden, but I can't live on one fucking zucchini and a couple of small green tomatoes a month.

And that's the consequence of having urban areas. As you put more people in an enclosed area by building up and relying on outside sources for survival needs.

But I live in a small town in the country.

[TAC]

And that's the consequence of having urban areas. As you put more people in an enclosed area by building up and relying on outside sources for survival needs. [/url]

Baloney.   Our garden kicks ass. It takes a while to prosper.

You'll have to excuse me if I'm dying laughing while picturing you...gardening.

[King Postwhore]

By our, I mean my wife. Lol  She kicks ass. Green thumb.  Me, I'm the chef with all she produces.

[TAC]

By our, I mean my wife. Lol  She kicks ass. Green thumb.  Me, I'm the chef with all she produces.

Let me guess, you tend to the cattle?

[King Postwhore]

Lawn boy.

[Adami]

Lawn Jockey.

Fixed.

[King Postwhore]

Lawn Jockey.

Fixed.

I look like Jaba on his thrown driving my lawnmower. 

[Ben_Jamin]

 

We put stuff in our foods for convenience of not having to grow a garden.

My wife has tried to grow a garden, but I can't live on one fucking zucchini and a couple of small green tomatoes a month.

And that's the consequence of having urban areas. As you put more people in an enclosed area by building up and relying on outside sources for survival needs.

But I live in a small town in the country.

 

Even better, as you can grow more. Plants require a lot of care and tendering too. Some plants you have to baby. Pests are also a big issue, but if you are on them every morning and night, or during the day to rid them from your plants then your plants will produce. What I do for my squash bugs is put them in a cup filled with soap water and they drown, and also being consistent with the eggs is critical or else they'll hatch and you have an infestation of bugs, which is lot's of fun trying to get them all, nice and stinky work.

 

We put stuff in our foods for convenience of not having to grow a garden.

My wife has tried to grow a garden, but I can't live on one fucking zucchini and a couple of small green tomatoes a month.

And that's the consequence of having urban areas. As you put more people in an enclosed area by building up and relying on outside sources for survival needs. [/url]

Baloney.   Our garden kicks ass. It takes a while to prosper.

The first time you try to play Stairway to Heaven it sounds like shit. But in time, with practice,  you own it.  Just like gardening.

That's good to hear. And one aspect I like to be proven wrong about.

I agree. It does take time. Especially in brand new soil that hasn't had anything growing. There are ways to replenish soil enough to plant. It's awesome actually.

There's also ways urban areas are developing to grow farms, such as vertical farming. Which are interesting to see as well.

[King Postwhore]

Zucchini
Summer squash
Kale
Tomatoes (4 varieties)
Red leaf lettuce
Green leaf lettuce
Cauliflower
Brussel sprouts
Green beans
Cucumbers
Green beans
Sugar snap peas
Asparagus
Chives
Green onion
Rhubarb
Grapes
Blueberries
Strawberries
Swiss chard
Spinach
And many herbs

Oh, and hops for beer.

[wolfking]

 

We put stuff in our foods for convenience of not having to grow a garden.

My wife has tried to grow a garden, but I can't live on one fucking zucchini and a couple of small green tomatoes a month.

And that's the consequence of having urban areas. As you put more people in an enclosed area by building up and relying on outside sources for survival needs.

But, as is said. Life isn't easy. It's hard. And it's what we have to do if we want the best quality food that has all the nutrients our body needs to keep us healthy and strong. Or else, we sacrifice that nutrition for the product that has chemicals that help it stay more fresh, be so big, and last on your counter longer than the one freshly picked from the garden or tree. Which then we end up lacking these nutrients and get illnesses because we are not getting these nutrients our bodies need to work properly. All because it's more convenient and easier and requires less physical work to go to the grocery store.

Gardening is not as simple as people think it is either. There's a lot of things to know, like the soil, the plants and their habitats, dealing with the weather and the invasive bugs, like the squash bugs. It's a lot of work. This is what the farmers do for all the produce and products in the grocery stores. Food still has to grow somewhere and someone still has to do the farming.

But check this out...

 I Grew and Foraged 100% of My Food for an Entire Year

Do I look like a fucking caveman?

I hate cooking and preparing a meal with more than a couple of ingredients so there is no fucking way, I'm growing my own shit, ever.  Just because I don't though, it doesn't mean I don't eat well and pick good food to eat daily.  Sure I don't know exactly how it was grown but it bet it's better than growing in my backyard.

My misses tried growing some tomatoes and shit once, and I didn't realise we had so many fucking cats around our joint.  I love you outlook but I just people don't have the time and energy to live like we did back in the day, we live in a different day and age.

I agree the world is slowly going down the toilet, but it isn't going to change.

[wolfking]

Ben, you also say about putting people in rural areas, the population is growing, how are we supposed to combat that?  The growth in my area alone with new housing estates getting built yearly is incredible.  New houses built all the time and more and more people moving in. 

[TAC]

Zucchini
Summer squash
Kale
Tomatoes (4 varieties)
Red leaf lettuce
Green leaf lettuce
Cauliflower
Brussel sprouts
Green beans
Cucumbers
Green beans
Sugar snap peas
Asparagus
Chives
Green onion
Rhubarb
Grapes
Blueberries
Strawberries
Swiss chard
Spinach
And many herbs

Oh, and hops for beer.

GTFO!

[wolfking]

Never heard of a green onion. 

[TAC]

Never heard of a green onion. 

Scallions

[King Postwhore]

Zucchini
Summer squash
Kale
Tomatoes (4 varieties)
Red leaf lettuce
Green leaf lettuce
Cauliflower
Brussel sprouts
Green beans
Cucumbers
Green beans
Sugar snap peas
Asparagus
Chives
Green onion
Rhubarb
Grapes
Blueberries
Strawberries
Swiss chard
Spinach
And many herbs

Oh, and hops for beer.

GTFO!

[wolfking]

Never heard of a green onion. 

Scallions

Ah.  I had to google that but we call them spring onions.

[King Postwhore]

Love them in my eggs on the weekends. 

Oh, and Coronavirus sucks.

[TAC]

My misses tried growing some tomatoes and shit once, and I didn't realise we had so many fucking cats around our joint. 

Fuckers!




 

[TAC]

Scallions are what every fucking restaurant feels the need to chop and serve on top of whatever dish you order. If I get them I send it back and tell them to make me a whole new plate. And if I think they simply picked them off, I still demand a new meal! Assholes!

[King Postwhore]

My misses tried growing some tomatoes and shit once, and I didn't realise we had so many fucking cats around our joint. 

Fuckers!




 

Damn straight mofo!!

[lonestar]

Scallions are what every fucking restaurant feels the need to chop and serve on top of whatever dish you order. If I get them I send it back and tell them to make me a whole new plate. And if I think they simply picked them off, I still demand a new meal! Assholes!

With all due respect, don't ever come to my place.

[TAC]

Scallions are what every fucking restaurant feels the need to chop and serve on top of whatever dish you order. If I get them I send it back and tell them to make me a whole new plate. And if I think they simply picked them off, I still demand a new meal! Assholes!

With all due respect, don't ever come to my place.

Nah, you can do better than that. If someone is so insecure in their plate that they need to add something pretty and green on top, then why not parsley or a twig of something that I can easily remove. Why add something so pungent that it fucks with the flavor profile? Plus try picking them out of mashed potatoes. Fuck that. It’s going back.

[jingle.boy]

Lawn Jockey.

Fixed.

You'll have to excuse me if I'm dying laughing while picturing Joe ... as a jockey on a horse.  Zydar, please photoshop something for us.