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Re: Classical Composer Reacts to OCTAVARIUM
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2021, 06:29:34 AM »

I pretty much agree with everything here- including the opinion that ADToE, with all of its own problems, is the last DT album that sounds like it had a budget and wasn’t written and recorded in a closet over a long holiday weekend  (although Astonishing definitely has some positives in the the sound department).

Have to disagree a bit on the ADTOE comment, i actually find it to be one of the worst sounding DT records.

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« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2021, 01:42:19 PM »
The entire second half of SC is so slow and dull.

Repentance followed by Ministry is a SLOG.

Well, that's because your missing the energetic song that is between Repentance and The Ministry Of Lost Souls... :lol

 :hat I listen to SC so little to care. Prophets is not even as good as Never Enough.

LOL, I almost spit out my beverage.  That's like saying a kick in the nuts is just a little more painful than a sharp stick in the eye. :lol  Both songs are bottom of the DT barrel.  The question of which one is better never even entered my mind.  ???
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« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2021, 01:56:59 PM »
The entire second half of SC is so slow and dull.

Repentance followed by Ministry is a SLOG.

Well, that's because your missing the energetic song that is between Repentance and The Ministry Of Lost Souls... :lol

 :hat I listen to SC so little to care. Prophets is not even as good as Never Enough.

LOL, I almost spit out my beverage.  That's like saying a kick in the nuts is just a little more painful than a sharp stick in the eye. :lol  Both songs are bottom of the DT barrel.  The question of which one is better never even entered my mind.  ???

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I can't say I disagree...

I prefer POW, though, because it's a bit more original than just a Muse song re-written. NE has that pretty cool JP/JR unison, tho.
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: Classical Composer Reacts to OCTAVARIUM
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2021, 03:52:42 PM »

 Both songs are bottom of the DT barrel.

But saying Myungs lyrics are over rated is 'against forum rules'.

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« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2021, 08:38:47 PM »

 Both songs are bottom of the DT barrel.

But saying Myungs lyrics are over rated is 'against forum rules'.

The bottom of a barrel of chocolate or bacon isn’t an insult.

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Re: Classical Composer Reacts to OCTAVARIUM
« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2021, 10:39:01 PM »
I watched his Octavarium video again and he's just so fun to watch.  He's just a big kid passionate about music.

"OH MAN!  THEY WENT TO C#!!!  AHHHHHHH!!!!"

"THAT'S A DOMINANT OVER B-FLAT!"

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At the end:  "IT'S MAJOR!!!"

He throws up the TOUCHDOWN arms a lot but the best is right before the final solo.

He also gives that side-eye "bitch, please" look when DT does something amazing.  Like "wtf are they doing" stuff.

He's so happy.  So great.

Seriously makes me appreciate DT even more.  Really opened my mind to how complex they actually are even though it's just another day for most of us.

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« Reply #41 on: June 23, 2021, 10:57:58 AM »
I never understood the hate for Never Enough around here. I think it's a pretty awesome rockin song!  In fact, I turned at least three people on to DT with that song. It led them to buy the Octavarium album.   :metal
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« Reply #42 on: June 23, 2021, 01:11:40 PM »
I never understood the hate for Never Enough around here. I think it's a pretty awesome rockin song!  In fact, I turned at least three people on to DT with that song. It led them to buy the Octavarium album.   :metal

Honestly, I haven't listened to it in a long time, but it was never a favorite, and a lot of it has to do with the lyrics.  It's one of those rare songs where lyrics are so bad that they drag the song down.
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« Reply #43 on: June 23, 2021, 01:13:13 PM »
James is fantastic on Never Enough. The lyrics have never really bothered me. It's the delivery that I like a lot.
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Re: Classical Composer Reacts to OCTAVARIUM
« Reply #44 on: June 24, 2021, 09:11:52 AM »
The lyrics are a little, well, whatever, but the groove on that song is outrageous, even if it is a Muse ripoff.
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« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2021, 05:31:56 AM »
Can't wait for this guy to tackle some Transatlantic, Neal Morse and Flower Kings epics.

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« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2021, 10:58:38 PM »
The lyrics are a little, well, whatever, but the groove on that song is outrageous, even if it is a Muse ripoff.

The reason it's an awful song is that it sounds like Muse, a truly awful band.

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« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2021, 08:03:28 AM »
The lyrics are a little, well, whatever, but the groove on that song is outrageous, even if it is a Muse ripoff.

The reason it's an awful song is that it sounds like Muse, a truly awful band.

I always thought the song sounded better than Muse, I never liked them. The middle unison section always sounded badass to me.
By contrast, their other Muse-sounding song, Prophets of War, with it's metal riffing, and with its Queen-esque sound mixed in, is awful.

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« Reply #48 on: July 02, 2021, 08:31:20 AM »
The lyrics are a little, well, whatever, but the groove on that song is outrageous, even if it is a Muse ripoff.

The reason it's an awful song is that it sounds like Muse, a truly awful band.

I always thought the song sounded better than Muse, I never liked them. The middle unison section always sounded badass to me.
By contrast, their other Muse-sounding song, Prophets of War, with it's metal riffing, and with its Queen-esque sound mixed in, is awful.

Panick Attack has that same Muse-ish vocal style in parts. It's the vocals more than the riffage that turn me off of Muse/songs that sound like Muse.

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Re: Classical Composer Reacts to OCTAVARIUM
« Reply #49 on: July 09, 2021, 12:54:39 PM »
I guess I'm in the very small minority with regards to Doug.  I watch a LOT of reaction vids and while Doug is indeed very knowledgeable I find him a tad annoying with the CONSTANT key change notifications during the songs.  An occasional "Hey this is in B flat" is cool, but I don't want to hear about every key change.   Personal preference I guess...

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« Reply #50 on: July 24, 2021, 11:58:51 AM »
Looks like Doug just covered "A Change Of Seasons".

https://youtu.be/jeHN2Rl16E8

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Re: Classical Composer Reacts to OCTAVARIUM
« Reply #51 on: July 24, 2021, 12:53:41 PM »
Personally I put ACOS in much higher regard than Octavarium. I think he didn't give the same attention to ACOS as he did to 8V, and the analysis was not in the same level. But he clarified some interesting points regarding tonality, song structure, etc. which I enjoy in all of his videos. Maybe my expectations of his reaction were higher than his own xD

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« Reply #52 on: July 24, 2021, 01:06:11 PM »
Personally I put ACOS in much higher regard than Octavarium. I think he didn't give the same attention to ACOS as he did to 8V, and the analysis was not in the same level. But he clarified some interesting points regarding tonality, song structure, etc. which I enjoy in all of his videos. Maybe my expectations of his reaction were higher than his own xD

Same re ACOS over 8V. I watched this one last night, and while I still don’t get much out of his analysis or silly faces, I did enjoy jamming out to ACOS for the first time in a while.

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« Reply #53 on: July 24, 2021, 08:09:30 PM »
Maybe it's more difficult to pick up on in a first listen, but I think Doug often misses out on a lot of the interesting time signature tricks that DT does -- especially in ACOS.  I also think he's been going more heavily on lyrical analysis, and I don't think that's his strong suit.
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« Reply #54 on: August 01, 2021, 02:21:25 PM »
Doug’s gonna give his reaction to both Metropolis pt 1 and the whole Scenes from a Memory, next sunday. Just letting you guys know…
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Re: Classical Composer Reacts to OCTAVARIUM
« Reply #55 on: August 01, 2021, 04:22:13 PM »
This is the first time i've heard A Change Of Seasons in YEARS and I still can't get into it. Why does so much of it remind me of Erotomania ?

LaBrie sounds great obviously but it's far too disjointed for me. It's still my least favourite DT 'epic'.  :sadpanda:

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Re: Classical Composer Reacts to OCTAVARIUM
« Reply #56 on: August 01, 2021, 05:02:01 PM »
Doug’s gonna give his reaction to both Metropolis pt 1 and the whole Scenes from a Memory, next sunday. Just letting you guys know…

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« Reply #57 on: August 05, 2021, 01:50:45 PM »
Looks like Doug just covered "A Change Of Seasons".

https://youtu.be/jeHN2Rl16E8

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I enjoyed that a lot!  :tup



This is the first time i've heard A Change Of Seasons in YEARS and I still can't get into it. Why does so much of it remind me of Erotomania ?

LaBrie sounds great obviously but it's far too disjointed for me. It's still my least favourite DT 'epic'.  :sadpanda:

Sorry y'all.

No need to apologize.  It's your loss. :p  Not sure what you mean by disjointed.  Everything in that song works even though a couple of sections take an abrupt turn.  It all comes back full circle.



Doug’s gonna give his reaction to both Metropolis pt 1 and the whole Scenes from a Memory, next sunday. Just letting you guys know…

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Re: Classical Composer Reacts to OCTAVARIUM
« Reply #58 on: August 05, 2021, 01:58:14 PM »
I've watched like 40 of this guys videos thanks to this thread.

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« Reply #59 on: August 05, 2021, 08:24:25 PM »
Doug’s gonna give his reaction to both Metropolis pt 1 and the whole Scenes from a Memory, next sunday. Just letting you guys know…



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« Reply #60 on: August 05, 2021, 10:12:19 PM »
I've watched like 40 of this guys videos thanks to this thread.

That's great (for me)  to see!

Usually I kill threads cuz after I say something it just dies so it's nice to see something different for a change.

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« Reply #61 on: August 06, 2021, 07:29:39 AM »
Usually I kill threads cuz after I say something it just dies so it's nice to see something different for a change.

Really, because of this thread I’ve been appreciating Octavarium so much more then I did. I’m very thankful of that.
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« Reply #62 on: August 06, 2021, 08:09:13 AM »
Other people who do this kind of show usually hit the pause button while they're explaining something. He needs to do that because he misses cool stuff while he's talking.

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« Reply #63 on: August 06, 2021, 08:58:53 AM »
Other people who do this kind of show usually hit the pause button while they're explaining something. He needs to do that because he misses cool stuff while he's talking.

Don't disagree but I doubt he's making much money from these videos (reacting to copyrighted content) and is doing it primarily for fun. If he has a real life to get back to why make the videos take longer to produce?
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« Reply #64 on: August 06, 2021, 10:01:30 AM »
Other people who do this kind of show usually hit the pause button while they're explaining something. He needs to do that because he misses cool stuff while he's talking.

He did it more when he first started, but I agree.  On the other hand, there are a couple folks who do these who seem to pause after every bar.  THAT is WAY more annoying, so if Doug is going to err either way, he's on the right side of the line.
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« Reply #65 on: August 06, 2021, 10:18:25 AM »
^Agree.  Especially on the longer songs.
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« Reply #66 on: August 08, 2021, 05:36:00 PM »
Doug’s gonna give his reaction to both Metropolis pt 1 and the whole Scenes from a Memory, next sunday. Just letting you guys know…

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« Reply #67 on: August 08, 2021, 05:59:34 PM »
Other people who do this kind of show usually hit the pause button while they're explaining something. He needs to do that because he misses cool stuff while he's talking.

He did it more when he first started, but I agree.  On the other hand, there are a couple folks who do these who seem to pause after every bar.  THAT is WAY more annoying, so if Doug is going to err either way, he's on the right side of the line.

Yeah there’s a redhead who analyzes singing and she pauses after every bar. Too much.

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« Reply #68 on: August 08, 2021, 06:19:28 PM »
My issue with Doug is that when he's in front of his piano, he's too distracted from the song because he's trying to play it. He misses some important parts because he's dicking around.
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« Reply #69 on: August 10, 2021, 11:24:32 AM »
My issue with Doug is that when he's in front of his piano, he's too distracted from the song because he's trying to play it. He misses some important parts because he's dicking around.

I get what you're saying Tim, but I think those are some of the older reactions.  He pretty much ditched the piano on the newer ones.  :tup


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Haven't seen this yet but looking forward to it.  :tup
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