Classical Composer Reacts to Various DT Songs

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Dublagent66

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I'm glad he decided to do the final 2 songs together.

Really enjoyed those final two installments of the 12 SS.  :tup

Wim Kruithof

You've probably have seen it already, but the Doug reacted on Sacrified Sons, the Score-edition. I enjoyed his reaction much, 'cause it's a really musical one.

Chino


bosk1

Quote from: TAC on August 15, 2022, 06:04:09 PM
Quote from: The Letter M on August 15, 2022, 03:44:26 PM
Quote from: pg1067 on August 15, 2022, 03:27:22 PM
Can I assume that most of it is him napping through Repentance?  Probably his first DT video that I won't watch.

Without spoiling too much, he absolutely loved it, and claims it's one of his favorite DT songs he's heard so far.

Definitely NOT the reaction I expected so it was exciting to see him be excited about the song!


I wasn't surprised by his reaction. look, it's one of my least favorite DT songs, but I think it's cool as hell, and I totally respect what they were going for. It's just not something I personally want to listen through if I don't have to.

That sums up my feelings toward that song perfectly.  But Doug's video was still enjoyable.

Dublagent66

Quote from: Wim Kruithof on September 17, 2022, 12:42:07 AM
You've probably have seen it already, but the Doug reacted on Sacrified Sons, the Score-edition. I enjoyed his reaction much, 'cause it's a really musical one.

Yeah, this was another really good one.  Especially how he commemorated the 911 attacks.

axeman90210

Bumping this thread because Doug will be doing the first half of Images and Words tomorrow on the channel. Should be a 4:30pm Eastern premiere.

pg1067

Quote from: axeman90210 on April 02, 2023, 12:30:42 PM
Bumping this thread because Doug will be doing the first half of Images and Words tomorrow on the channel. Should be a 4:30pm Eastern premiere.

I'll watch it (although not live), but he's like 85-90% talking about lyrics nowadays.  Almost no analysis of the music.

pg1067

Quote from: pg1067 on April 02, 2023, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: axeman90210 on April 02, 2023, 12:30:42 PM
Bumping this thread because Doug will be doing the first half of Images and Words tomorrow on the channel. Should be a 4:30pm Eastern premiere.

I'll watch it (although not live), but he's like 85-90% talking about lyrics nowadays.  Almost no analysis of the music.

Just listened.  It was pretty good.  I was about 20 minutes behind, but I jumped into the chat and suggested he take a look at some Fates Warning.  He responded and said they're looking at doing some FW.  Someone else mentioned that the subject had come up on his Patron thing.

Also, this reminded me how much I love the production on I&W.

Dublagent66

Haven't seen much of Doug lately but will have to check that out.

The Letter M

Quote from: pg1067 on April 02, 2023, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: axeman90210 on April 02, 2023, 12:30:42 PM
Bumping this thread because Doug will be doing the first half of Images and Words tomorrow on the channel. Should be a 4:30pm Eastern premiere.

I'll watch it (although not live), but he's like 85-90% talking about lyrics nowadays.  Almost no analysis of the music.

He didn't talk about the lyrics any more than the music this time around, so if you're worried about that, I'd say he did a pretty good job of balancing what he was listening to/for.

-Marc.

Dublagent66

I think he tends to talk music more with the complicated arrangements.  You know, the kind of stuff that challenges him.  DT's stuff tends to do that.

bosk1

Quote from: The Letter M on April 04, 2023, 11:56:34 AM
Quote from: pg1067 on April 02, 2023, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: axeman90210 on April 02, 2023, 12:30:42 PM
Bumping this thread because Doug will be doing the first half of Images and Words tomorrow on the channel. Should be a 4:30pm Eastern premiere.

I'll watch it (although not live), but he's like 85-90% talking about lyrics nowadays.  Almost no analysis of the music.

He didn't talk about the lyrics any more than the music this time around, so if you're worried about that, I'd say he did a pretty good job of balancing what he was listening to/for.

-Marc.

Agreed.  I haven't followed a lot of his channel for awhile because the music analysis, which is what he is good at, had tailed off.  But I saw this and thought he did a pretty good job. 

Wim Kruithof

Surely gonna check this one out soon enough. The Doug more than often gave me so much to chew on with Dream Theater tracks. And although it's not always as the same quality as with the Octavarium reaction, it's always worth watching, for me. Some of them I've seen a couple of times already (Count, Illumination Theory, Glass Prison).

hefdaddy42

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Dublagent66

I'll be checking that out with a well adjusted attitude later on tonight.  :biggrin: :hat:corn

Wim Kruithof

Was indeed a very nice reaction video. Makes me more aware of how complex Another Day really is. And of course, Surrouned stands out as one of their all times best ballads.

Lonk

He did Lines in the Sand:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acf8N_-5O-4

For some reason I thought he had done it before.

Dream Team

Still waiting for him to do the 2nd half of Images, especially Learning to Live.

pg1067

He said in the chat when the first half of I&W was premiering that the second half would probably be sometime in May (and note that he's already done Met1).

axeman90210

Quote from: Dream Team on April 27, 2023, 07:07:22 AM
Still waiting for him to do the 2nd half of Images, especially Learning to Live.

That's coming in I think early to mid May. Maybe with the Score version of Metropolis since he already did the studio version alongside SFAM.

Adami

Quote from: Vmadera00 on April 27, 2023, 05:31:53 AM
He did Lines in the Sand:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acf8N_-5O-4

For some reason I thought he had done it before.

I like Doug. Seems like a cool dude and super smart, but I watched a good amount of this and got bored. He pointed out that part of it was in D, said the lyrics had Christian imagery, and pointed out how much he dug it. Not much there.
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pg1067

Quote from: Adami on April 27, 2023, 09:09:08 AM
Quote from: Vmadera00 on April 27, 2023, 05:31:53 AM
He did Lines in the Sand:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acf8N_-5O-4

For some reason I thought he had done it before.

I like Doug. Seems like a cool dude and super smart, but I watched a good amount of this and got bored. He pointed out that part of it was in D, said the lyrics had Christian imagery, and pointed out how much he dug it. Not much there.

I agree.  He's deviated a great deal from musical analysis.  It wasn't really applicable with LITS, but with some of the more complex stuff, I think it would be beneficial for him to pause the recordings now and then.  He misses a lot because there are things you just can't pick up with an uninterrupted listen through.  He's done a few Genesis songs with an accompanying keyboard score, and those are fascinating.

Adami

Quote from: pg1067 on April 27, 2023, 12:14:42 PM
Quote from: Adami on April 27, 2023, 09:09:08 AM
Quote from: Vmadera00 on April 27, 2023, 05:31:53 AM
He did Lines in the Sand:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acf8N_-5O-4

For some reason I thought he had done it before.

I like Doug. Seems like a cool dude and super smart, but I watched a good amount of this and got bored. He pointed out that part of it was in D, said the lyrics had Christian imagery, and pointed out how much he dug it. Not much there.

I agree.  He's deviated a great deal from musical analysis.  It wasn't really applicable with LITS, but with some of the more complex stuff, I think it would be beneficial for him to pause the recordings now and then.  He misses a lot because there are things you just can't pick up with an uninterrupted listen through.  He's done a few Genesis songs with an accompanying keyboard score, and those are fascinating.

Yea, just not sure how pointing out the time signature or root note is analysis.

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TAC

The novelty has long worn off for me. Now he just mugs at the camera while the song is playing. It's really not all that entertaining.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

Chino

The first vid or two of his I watched I really enjoyed because he was talking about the music most of the time. I'm not a musician at all really, but I still found it entertaining and interesting, especially the way he approached it from a classical standpoint.

Just sitting there and reading off lyrics as the song plays does nothing for me.   

Cool Chris

Quote from: Adami on April 27, 2023, 09:09:08 AM
I like Doug. Seems like a cool dude and super smart, but I watched a good amount of this and got bored. He pointed out that part of it was in D, said the lyrics had Christian imagery, and pointed out how much he dug it. Not much there.

Please tell me he will actually say he "dug" a tune.

Adami

Quote from: Cool Chris on April 27, 2023, 10:07:14 PM
Quote from: Adami on April 27, 2023, 09:09:08 AM
I like Doug. Seems like a cool dude and super smart, but I watched a good amount of this and got bored. He pointed out that part of it was in D, said the lyrics had Christian imagery, and pointed out how much he dug it. Not much there.

Please tell me he will actually say he "dug" a tune.

I feel like it's a missed opportunity if he doesn't.
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pg1067

Quote from: Cool Chris on April 27, 2023, 10:07:14 PM
Quote from: Adami on April 27, 2023, 09:09:08 AM
I like Doug. Seems like a cool dude and super smart, but I watched a good amount of this and got bored. He pointed out that part of it was in D, said the lyrics had Christian imagery, and pointed out how much he dug it. Not much there.

Please tell me he will actually say he "dug" a tune.

It might have been particularly appropriate with LITS.  However, his research done before listening apparently didn't include the horrid guest vocal because he didn't know who was doing it (he speculated it might have been DS).

TheBarstoolWarrior

Thing is, after a certain point there isn't much to 'react' to in live time. If he wants to pick the song apart and explain to viewers what's happening harmonically that's a different type of content, but these reaction videos are just supposed to make us feel warm and fuzzy. Once in a while he'll point out the intervals that go by, but that's not why we watch.

Most of us cannot talk to wives or friends about DT because they'll roll their eyes or fall asleep. So here is a guy with some musical chops who is going to listen to it allegedly for the first time and have the reaction that we wish people in our inner circles would have. That's all these reaction videos are.
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HOF

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on April 29, 2023, 07:44:46 AM
Thing is, after a certain point there isn't much to 'react' to in live time. If he wants to pick the song apart and explain to viewers what's happening harmonically that's a different type of content, but these reaction videos are just supposed to make us feel warm and fuzzy. Once in a while he'll point out the intervals that go by, but that's not why we watch.

Most of us cannot talk to wives or friends about DT because they'll roll their eyes or fall asleep. So here is a guy with some musical chops who is going to listen to it allegedly for the first time and have the reaction that we wish people in our inner circles would have. That's all these reaction videos are.

Yeah, that is exactly what these videos are for. I might prefer to watch something with some in depth analysis, but I'll admit it brought me some joy to see him apparently digging this magnificent song.

axeman90210

Part 2 of Images and Words debuts at 4:30 today!

Dublagent66

Part 2 should be better.  It's a bit more proggy and complex.  I thought part 1 was a little underwhelming.

Dream Team

Spending time on Under a Glass Moon lyrics  :facepalm:

TheBarstoolWarrior

I found part 2 similarly underwhelming. He did react so the video fulfilled its purpose but I think the next thing to do to make these these things more interesting is for Doug to talk about what's going on in the song or in a section. It doesn't have to be a deep dive, but just reading some of the lyrics and making drum movements gets boring. That's why part 1 and 2 are basically the same.

He obviously has the knowledge to talk about these songs in more depth so would love to see him react maybe to the different musical ideas employed in the songs. That would take a lot more work on his end so I get why it's probably not happening but just a thought.
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ZirconBlue

I notice that, somewhere along the way, he has stopped complaining about double bass drum parts.