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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #420 on: July 22, 2021, 07:37:00 AM »
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Anywho, who do you all think will be on this new "dark" Avengers roster that Julia Louise Dreyfus is clearly putting together? She has her new Cap and her Black Widow. Do you think you'll try to get a new Iron Man during Armor Wars? How else is she going to put this team together?
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« Reply #421 on: July 22, 2021, 07:51:59 AM »
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #422 on: July 22, 2021, 09:39:24 AM »
Anywho, who do you all think will be on this new "dark" Avengers roster that Julia Louise Dreyfus is clearly putting together? She has her new Cap and her Black Widow. Do you think you'll try to get a new Iron Man during Armor Wars? How else is she going to put this team together?

Zemo seems like fair game, since he is headed to the Raft.  Abomination maybe?
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #423 on: July 22, 2021, 09:42:33 AM »
Anywho, who do you all think will be on this new "dark" Avengers roster that Julia Louise Dreyfus is clearly putting together? She has her new Cap and her Black Widow. Do you think you'll try to get a new Iron Man during Armor Wars? How else is she going to put this team together?

Zemo seems like fair game, since he is headed to the Raft.  Abomination maybe?

I have no idea how I didn't think Abomination. Good call!

As for Zemo, I dunno. The Dark Avengers in the comics were mirrors of the good ones for the most part. Seems (so far) to be the same here. A new Cap, a new Widow. Abomination would be a good Hulk. She'd want an Iron Man, Hawkeye and Thor type though. At least.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #424 on: July 22, 2021, 10:26:57 AM »
Anywho, who do you all think will be on this new "dark" Avengers roster that Julia Louise Dreyfus is clearly putting together? She has her new Cap and her Black Widow. Do you think you'll try to get a new Iron Man during Armor Wars? How else is she going to put this team together?

Zemo seems like fair game, since he is headed to the Raft.  Abomination maybe?

I have no idea how I didn't think Abomination. Good call!

As for Zemo, I dunno. The Dark Avengers in the comics were mirrors of the good ones for the most part. Seems (so far) to be the same here. A new Cap, a new Widow. Abomination would be a good Hulk. She'd want an Iron Man, Hawkeye and Thor type though. At least.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #425 on: July 22, 2021, 10:29:18 AM »
Anywho, who do you all think will be on this new "dark" Avengers roster that Julia Louise Dreyfus is clearly putting together? She has her new Cap and her Black Widow. Do you think you'll try to get a new Iron Man during Armor Wars? How else is she going to put this team together?

Zemo seems like fair game, since he is headed to the Raft.  Abomination maybe?

I have no idea how I didn't think Abomination. Good call!

As for Zemo, I dunno. The Dark Avengers in the comics were mirrors of the good ones for the most part. Seems (so far) to be the same here. A new Cap, a new Widow. Abomination would be a good Hulk. She'd want an Iron Man, Hawkeye and Thor type though. At least.

Yeah, but the MCU has deviated from the comics in a lot of ways.  And I think having a direct analogue to each original Avenger would come across onscreen as pretty cheesy and might be offputting.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #426 on: July 22, 2021, 10:41:43 AM »
Well yea. Nothing about these dark avengers would be in line with the comics. I just meant the general theme. I doubt they’ll follow it exactly but they have for the first two so I assume they might for at last the iron man version since we have armor wars coming up anyway.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #427 on: July 22, 2021, 01:44:17 PM »
I think if we get one villain for each original Avengers, that might be OK, but it would be a bit hokey. I'd be fine with USAgent, Yelena Belova, and Abomination at least, but let's see other villains come back that didn't die....like, uhm... Hmmm. Zemo? And Mordo! How about Ghost, she's still gotta be alive even after the Blip.

I do wonder, if Valentina is working for Ross and we get a team of anti-heroes as the Thunderbolts, named after General "Thunderbolt" Ross. It didn't happen like that in the comics but it would be a neat way to work that out in context of the MCU, and it gives us a reason to see Ross eventually become Red Hulk, if William Hurt is up for it, though I understand he's not as spry and young as he used to be, though someone younger could do the on-set mocap and he could just be the face/voice for Red Hulk.

It seems like the MCU is gearing up towards both a new Avengers team and/or the Young Avengers, and some sort of anti-Avengers team (Dark Avengers or Thunderbolts). I think if we get both or all of these teams, it would be neat to see them all have to team-up in a sort of Secret War(s) battle against a villain like Doom or Kang. Seems like the best way to one-up a climax like Endgame, especially if the X-Men and Fantastic Four are also involved. Then again, they could do the Onslaught storyline and I would die happy, and that would give them a good reason to reboot Avengers characters with new actors if they so choose.

Also, I'm still wondering if they're going to do an A-Force film once She-Hulk gets off the ground? Would love to see her, Captain Marvel, Rescue, Wasp, Sif, and maybe a couple more in a film together!

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #428 on: July 27, 2021, 12:17:19 PM »
Watched Iron Man 2 over the weekend in our chronological order of movies, and my first watch of these... and this may have been my least favorite so far. I struggled to stay awake. What a let down after I really enjoyed the first Iron Man.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #429 on: July 27, 2021, 01:49:55 PM »
Iron Man 2 seems to be ranked pretty low amongst everyone I know who's into the MCU, so you're not alone.

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« Reply #430 on: July 27, 2021, 01:51:52 PM »
Indeed, which is a shame cause it has some great stuff in it.

Micky Rourke was a pretty cool villain that they just gave...very little to do.

Justin Hammer is pretty universally liked in that movie as well.

But yea, the plot was WAY too muddled and thin. I think a much more focused script would've made it a much better movie.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #431 on: July 28, 2021, 03:00:27 PM »
Indeed, which is a shame cause it has some great stuff in it.

Micky Rourke was a pretty cool villain that they just gave...very little to do.

Justin Hammer is pretty universally liked in that movie as well.

But yea, the plot was WAY too muddled and thin. I think a much more focused script would've made it a much better movie.
Justin Hammer was awesome, and I hope to see him again.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #432 on: July 28, 2021, 03:29:32 PM »
Sam Rockwell is awesome.  I can't think of a single role I've seen him in where I didn't think he was awesome, and Justin Hammer is certainly one of them.  But I thought the character of Justin Hammer was a smarmy idiot, and meant to be that way.  Hell, even the name "Justin" is one I associate with smarmy Gen-X (or -Y or whatever) dickheads, be that fair or not.  Well-developed character, awesome portrayal, but I'd be fine never seeing him again.

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« Reply #433 on: July 28, 2021, 03:36:11 PM »
Indeed, which is a shame cause it has some great stuff in it.

Micky Rourke was a pretty cool villain that they just gave...very little to do.

Justin Hammer is pretty universally liked in that movie as well.

But yea, the plot was WAY too muddled and thin. I think a much more focused script would've made it a much better movie.
Justin Hammer was awesome, and I hope to see him again.

I keep hoping and waiting to hear that he'll be added to the cast of Armor Wars. It would be fitting since Iron Man 2 was the first film with Don Cheadle as Rhodey, so seeing Sam Rockwell back from that film would be a treat because you KNOW Hammer Industries continued trying to rip off Tony's tech after the events of Iron Man 2 in 2010. It's been 14 years in-universe, so I'm sure there's a lot they could do to incorporate Justin Hammer back into the MCU via Armor Wars. I want to know if he got out of prison (as seen in the All Hail The King MCU One-Shot), and if so, what has he been up to since then!

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #435 on: July 29, 2021, 11:49:30 AM »
The Disney+ series Hawkeye will be premiering on November 24th.

https://twitter.com/MarvelStudios/status/1420761030704173056?s=19

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« Reply #436 on: July 29, 2021, 12:21:55 PM »
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« Reply #437 on: July 30, 2021, 11:06:04 AM »


The Disney+ series Hawkeye will be premiering on November 24th.

https://twitter.com/MarvelStudios/status/1420761030704173056?s=19

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I'm really looking forward to this, as it is based on an amazing Matt Fraction/David Aja comics run.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #438 on: July 30, 2021, 12:22:46 PM »
Honestly, I think I'm most excited for What If?
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #439 on: August 01, 2021, 10:22:24 PM »
Honestly, I think I'm most excited for What If?

Preliminary reviews for it are very, very strong.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #441 on: August 05, 2021, 06:01:32 AM »
SO I finally watched Endgame last night (well, I finished it last night; we watched it over two nights).   I'm not sure what to make of it.  I think I have to watch it again.

I will say this: I don't like when main characters, the "title hero", dies.  I get people have to die, but I am so used to suspending the "arc of life" with comic books that it's jarring when someone that is a main character, dies. 

And minor point, but if I was Brie Larsen I would have written that haircut out of my contract.   :tdwn

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« Reply #442 on: August 05, 2021, 07:18:34 PM »
SO I finally watched Endgame last night (well, I finished it last night; we watched it over two nights).   I'm not sure what to make of it.  I think I have to watch it again.

I will say this: I don't like when main characters, the "title hero", dies.  I get people have to die, but I am so used to suspending the "arc of life" with comic books that it's jarring when someone that is a main character, dies. 

And minor point, but if I was Brie Larsen I would have written that haircut out of my contract.   :tdwn

Yeah IW and Endgame are movies that pay off to watch them twice.

Interested in knowing your thoughts regarding what they did with Thor.

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« Reply #443 on: August 06, 2021, 05:44:42 AM »
SO I finally watched Endgame last night (well, I finished it last night; we watched it over two nights).   I'm not sure what to make of it.  I think I have to watch it again.

I will say this: I don't like when main characters, the "title hero", dies.  I get people have to die, but I am so used to suspending the "arc of life" with comic books that it's jarring when someone that is a main character, dies. 

And minor point, but if I was Brie Larsen I would have written that haircut out of my contract.   :tdwn

Yeah IW and Endgame are movies that pay off to watch them twice.

Interested in knowing your thoughts regarding what they did with Thor.

Hated it.   Thor is one of my favorite characters and I think that "twist" removed what I love most about him:  He's a leader, but not really.  He's a god, but not really.  He's smart, but not really.   He's all these things that are sort of a contradiction, and in that last movie it just seemed he was pure comedic relief.

Where I sit right now, I liked Infinity War WAY better than Endgame.   I will absolutely watch it again, though.   One little thing I did like:  when Tony did the snap and Thanos looked around and just sat down knowing it was over, Johnny.  It's over.  I thought that was so subtle and yet so powerful.

One other thing:  I wish I felt more empathy with Nebula.   She was such a main character in the movie but I just didn't connect, really.   

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #444 on: August 06, 2021, 05:58:28 AM »
Regarding Thor, I wasn’t too impressed at first, but ultimately thought it was brilliant. It just showed he’s “human”.  Lost his dad ... mom murdered... brother murdered who he’d just reconciled with... best friend murdered .... the Warriors 3 murdered by his sister .... homeland obliterated... everyone on the refugee ship killed .... and then in the final moment to save 1/2 the universe, he fucks it up.  Falling into the deepest depression where nothing meaningful matters is totally understandable, imo.
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« Reply #445 on: August 06, 2021, 06:05:57 AM »
Regarding Thor, I wasn’t too impressed at first, but ultimately thought it was brilliant. It just showed he’s “human”.  Lost his dad ... mom murdered... brother murdered who he’d just reconciled with... best friend murdered .... the Warriors 3 murdered by his sister .... homeland obliterated... everyone on the refugee ship killed .... and then in the final moment to save 1/2 the universe, he fucks it up.  Falling into the deepest depression where nothing meaningful matters is totally understandable, imo.

Yup. They did maybe overplay the comedic part of it and underplay the actual drama but the twist itself was brilliant.
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« Reply #446 on: August 06, 2021, 06:36:21 AM »
Hated it. Thor is one of my favorite characters and I think that "twist" removed what I love most about him:  He's a leader, but not really.  He's a god, but not really.  He's smart, but not really.   He's all these things that are sort of a contradiction, and in that last movie it just seemed he was pure comedic relief. 

Thank you for responding. This was something that divided a lot of fans and even caused some controversy when the movie was released. With that said:

Regarding Thor, I wasn’t too impressed at first, but ultimately thought it was brilliant. It just showed he’s “human”.  Lost his dad ... mom murdered... brother murdered who he’d just reconciled with... best friend murdered .... the Warriors 3 murdered by his sister .... homeland obliterated... everyone on the refugee ship killed .... and then in the final moment to save 1/2 the universe, he fucks it up.  Falling into the deepest depression where nothing meaningful matters is totally understandable, imo.

That's where I stand and I also though it was brilliant. If you look at the characters that survive the snap, the way they coped with things is directly attached to their personality. We see a vulnerable Thor in IW, when he was on the ship with Rocket and Groot. Makes sense to me he would turn the way he did after losing a battle that caused half of all live to vanished and feeling like it was your fault, on top of everything he had already lost.

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« Reply #447 on: August 06, 2021, 06:53:59 AM »
Regarding Thor, I wasn’t too impressed at first, but ultimately thought it was brilliant. It just showed he’s “human”.  Lost his dad ... mom murdered... brother murdered who he’d just reconciled with... best friend murdered .... the Warriors 3 murdered by his sister .... homeland obliterated... everyone on the refugee ship killed .... and then in the final moment to save 1/2 the universe, he fucks it up.  Falling into the deepest depression where nothing meaningful matters is totally understandable, imo.

Yup. They did maybe overplay the comedic part of it and underplay the actual drama but the twist itself was brilliant.

On this, we agree.  Though, the cheez-whiz and Lebowski comments were pretty darn good.
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« Reply #448 on: August 06, 2021, 06:57:55 AM »
I had no issue with the treatment of Thor, it follows his arc of stupid silliness fine, as well as keeping with his actual mental breakdown. I felt it tied the two together nicely.

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« Reply #449 on: August 06, 2021, 07:07:51 AM »


Where I sit right now, I liked Infinity War WAY better than Endgame. 

Watching the end of IW (with all the dusting after the snap) in the cinema for the first time was amazing, just taking in all that was happening.
But I've said it before it's much easier to write a brilliant cliff hanger ending, than it is to write a satisfying resolution.  I think for the most part Endgame did satisfy, I have a few niggles and I do think IW is the slightly better film - but overall I was really happy with both parts.

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« Reply #450 on: August 06, 2021, 07:16:33 AM »
I'll never forget the end of IW... The dude next to me turning to his friends in bewilderment asking "did they lose?"


Seeing Endgame opening night in a packed theater will be a movie experience that will never be topped though. For that alone I'd put it on top of IW.

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« Reply #451 on: August 06, 2021, 07:33:36 AM »
One other thing:  I wish I felt more empathy with Nebula.   She was such a main character in the movie but I just didn't connect, really.   

I liked her arc, but it did feel like she got more screen time because Karen Gillan has gotten more popular since Nebula was first introduced.  She was a secondary character who they tried to make into a main character, and we already had plenty of main characters.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #452 on: August 06, 2021, 07:33:46 AM »
Hated it. Thor is one of my favorite characters and I think that "twist" removed what I love most about him:  He's a leader, but not really.  He's a god, but not really.  He's smart, but not really.   He's all these things that are sort of a contradiction, and in that last movie it just seemed he was pure comedic relief. 

Thank you for responding. This was something that divided a lot of fans and even caused some controversy when the movie was released. With that said:

Regarding Thor, I wasn’t too impressed at first, but ultimately thought it was brilliant. It just showed he’s “human”.  Lost his dad ... mom murdered... brother murdered who he’d just reconciled with... best friend murdered .... the Warriors 3 murdered by his sister .... homeland obliterated... everyone on the refugee ship killed .... and then in the final moment to save 1/2 the universe, he fucks it up.  Falling into the deepest depression where nothing meaningful matters is totally understandable, imo.

That's where I stand and I also though it was brilliant. If you look at the characters that survive the snap, the way they coped with things is directly attached to their personality. We see a vulnerable Thor in IW, when he was on the ship with Rocket and Groot. Makes sense to me he would turn the way he did after losing a battle that caused half of all live to vanished and feeling like it was your fault, on top of everything he had already lost.

I'm human, I live with arguably three or four humans, I sired a human, most of my friends are human... I have enough loss and reality and "dealing" each and every day.   I don't really need that from my costumed super heroes.   Thor ISN'T human, in the sense that he has a Hammer that no one other than Capt. America (another twist I wasn't that fond of) can even LIFT.  He can fly, more or less, and move between universes almost at will.  He popped an eyeball into his head that came more or less directly from a rabbit/racoon's ass.   I don't need "depression" from him.  We've got "sensitive" Bruce Banner, and "sensitive" Steve Rogers, and a morphing-into-sensitive-in-a-way-that-makes-perfect-sense "sensitive" Tony Stark.   I thought it was unnecessary.

But I understand the other point of view; it's just my opinion.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #453 on: August 06, 2021, 07:35:50 AM »
I'll never forget the end of IW... The dude next to me turning to his friends in bewilderment asking "did they lose?"


Seeing Endgame opening night in a packed theater will be a movie experience that will never be topped though. For that alone I'd put it on top of IW.

See, I fought back emotions when Peter Parker turned to dust; that look on his face - "Tony! What the flip is HAPPENING to me! This isn't supposed to happen!" with a twist of "My aunt is going to KILL ME!" - was priceless.  I did not cry or even feel close to it watching Tony reach his conclusion.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
« Reply #454 on: August 06, 2021, 07:54:58 AM »
Stads, even Thanos let a tear out.  :lol
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