Steven Wilson solo career thread

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Kwyjibo

Middle of the road for me, some elements of early Porcupine Tree, some good songs/passages but overall far from his best imo.

The Letter M

Quote from: Kwyjibo on November 04, 2023, 09:43:35 AM
Middle of the road for me, some elements of early Porcupine Tree, some good songs/passages but overall far from his best imo.

Probably the same for me. I've already not listened to it for a few weeks since other new albums have come out, but I really enjoyed it when I did listen to it. It's definitely the best of his past three solo albums, but nothing will top TRTRTS and HCE for me - those are my eternal top two SW solo albums for me. I'd say maybe GFD might be third, but I haven't really listened to it a lot since it came out, as much as I love double albums. I'd say THC is around the same kind of ranking that Insurgentes gets from me, middle of the pack, not awful, but not his complete best, but THC definitely has room to grow for me. I'll definitely revisit it when I'm back in the mood for SW solo music, which is more than I can say for TFB and TTB (though I enjoy TTB a lot more than TFB).

-Marc.

Metro

Yeah it's a good album, but I've had to desire to listen to it for the past month.

Zantera

I haven't revisited it in a little while now but I would definitely put it above HCE, TTB and TFB. Not a perfect album and not up there in my top10-15 albums of the year, but still very enjoyable with some very high highs for me.

KevShmev

It is way too soon for me to consider how it compares to his other solo albums, but I just know I am loving it so far.

Impossible Tightrope is a BEAST of a song, for one.

Economies of Scale seemed just pretty good when it was dropped (that was the only pre-release song I listened to, and did so just once), but sounds really within the flow of the record.

The 3-song run that closes the record is terrific.

Beautiful Scarecrow is the one I am still unsure of how much I like it.

Kram

Quote from: KevShmev on November 04, 2023, 10:25:42 AM
It is way too soon for me to consider how it compares to his other solo albums, but I just know I am loving it so far.

Impossible Tightrope is a BEAST of a song, for one.

Economies of Scale seemed just pretty good when it was dropped (that was the only pre-release song I listened to, and did so just once), but sounds really within the flow of the record.

The 3-song run that closes the record is terrific.

Beautiful Scarecrow is the one I am still unsure of how much I like it.
Hang in there Kev with Beautiful Scarecrow.  Wasn't sure about it at first myself, but it's "clicked" with me now and I love it. 

I agree with all your other points.  I'm going to let it marinate a little longer before I release my updated SW solo album rankings - but I can say it's been slowly moving up for me.  A great return to form as far as I'm concerned!

KevShmev

Quote from: Kram on November 04, 2023, 03:47:23 PM

Hang in there Kev with Beautiful Scarecrow.  Wasn't sure about it at first myself, but it's "clicked" with me now and I love it. 

I agree with all your other points.  I'm going to let it marinate a little longer before I release my updated SW solo album rankings - but I can say it's been slowly moving up for me.  A great return to form as far as I'm concerned!

:tup :tup

HOF

So is there a concept to this album? I can't really devise any from the lyrics, but I thought I read that it was based on a short story SW wrote for his biography about two people trying to escape from a building where there had been a terrorist attack, and they end up climbing upwards to escape (which explains the cover art). Other than the title track and maybe the last song though, I don't really get a sense of that story being told.

Revenge319

Finally got around to listening to The Harmony Codex. First impressions are very positive. I really like the fusion of electronic and rock, and the piano parts sound beautiful despite rarely showing up throughout the album. The best parts are what Steven always does best, the vocal harmonies. The standout tracks from my first listen are Impossible Tightrope, The Harmony Codex, and Staircase. I love instrumental sections in music, so I suppose it's only natural these three impressed me the most. I think with more listens, this will probably end up as my third-favorite Steven Wilson solo album, behind The Raven That Refused To Sing and Hand. Cannot. Erase.

Kwyjibo

Quote from: HOF on November 05, 2023, 11:26:44 AM
So is there a concept to this album? I can't really devise any from the lyrics, but I thought I read that it was based on a short story SW wrote for his biography about two people trying to escape from a building where there had been a terrorist attack, and they end up climbing upwards to escape (which explains the cover art). Other than the title track and maybe the last song though, I don't really get a sense of that story being told.

Both the story and the album have the same name, so there should be a connection. But I didn't understand the ending of his story and I really don't know what the album is about.

nobloodyname

"I'm not just liking Dream Theater to get in your pants."



ErHaO

I like it. And apparently the lyrics are ChatGPT, with a very Wilson-explaination in the description of the vid.

Lonk

Quote from: ErHaO on December 14, 2023, 01:32:02 PM
I like it. And apparently the lyrics are ChatGPT, with a very Wilson-explaination in the description of the vid.
Yeah, the beginning of the video gives lyrics credit to ChatGPT lol

PMSummer

Just checked it out and gotta say, I'm pleasantly surprised – the lyrics are way better than I expected when I read that! I didn't know ChatGPT could contribute to music like this already, it's both cool and scary.

ErHaO

Quote from: PMSummer on December 14, 2023, 01:40:13 PM
Just checked it out and gotta say, I'm pleasantly surprised – the lyrics are way better than I expected when I read that! I didn't know ChatGPT could contribute to music like this already, it's both cool and scary.

I use chatGPT as a general info assistant and it can be scary, It runs circles around google (translating, making templates, spelling checks, information about all kids of stuff). And that is the non-pro free version based on pre-2022 training not connected to the internet.

In order to adapt, I actually recommend people keeping a tab open with GPT and using it in your general workflow. We are already at a point where that is a big advantage. But don't feed it anything personal or confidential (in my field I can't use it for much outside general questions).

TheHoveringSojourn808


HOF

I enjoyed the SW chat GPT song (which I believe only the lyrics were written by the chat GPT, and let's face it no one listens to SW for the lyrics).


Zantera

It is an interesting evolution for SW in the last 15 years to go from ipod-destroying, "streaming is the death of music", "i chose to live alone and i will die alone" rebel to fully embracing the digital medium, even using AI to make songs, married stepdad with 2 kids. Like you go back to the Insurgentes documentary days of him pouting at Disneyland and the doom and gloom vibe of him and his music, and now every video it's like he downed a jar of happy pills and he's farting out rainbows. Good for him though, I also think there's a connection between the journey/evolution he's had in the last 10 years with the evolution of his music. You go from old retro prog with Raven to a more contemporary HCE, to a bit of an 80s vibe in TTB, you go full electronic digital 21st century with TFB and then you land somewhere with a very interesting album in THC. In between that you also get the PT reunion.

Even though his albums haven't quite hit it out of the park for me in a while (I think HCE is his best since Raven though) I do think he is in an interesting place. It's always intriguing to hear a new SW album and see where he goes.

HOF



SoundscapeMN

Anyone check out the Q&A in The Album Years Podcast that Steven does with Tim Bowness?..they recently  did the 1st 2 parts of 1977, but decided to do some Q&A for X-Mas.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7yq7tecsChOxk0OgihsLOk

Steven chimed in on Jellyfish and the likes of Boston, Journey, Styx, Van Halen, Toto.

aboit 40 minutes in, it's interesting to hear Tim's take on Jellyfish. I think he said "Mark Eitzel" he'd rather listen to, although I have no idea who that is.
And Steven has never heard any song by Jellyfish which is weird considering how big an XTC fan he is.

HOF

I started on the Christmas episode but haven't gotten far yet. I get the sense that SW doesn't listen to much American music. He even mentioned on one of the recent 1977 episodes that he has more of a bias towards English music. Doesn't surprise me if he never came across Jelly Fish.


ErHaO

Did anyone buy the record store day release Harmonic Divergence? I think it has been pressed quite a bit, as many stores had a good chunk of copies here. So it is reasonable to get (unlike the PT vinyl of last year with those In Absentia bonus tracks).

This one: https://stevenwilsonhq.com/harmonic-divergence-record-store-day-exclusive/

Tracks:
1. Time is Running Out (Ewan Pearson Remix) (9.20)
2. The Harmony Codex (Kollar/Henriksen Remix) (5.10)
3. Codex Theme #10 (0.57)
4. Actual Brutal Facts (Craig Blundell Remix) (5.09)
SIDE B: (21.17)
5. Economies of Scale (Manic Street Preachers Remix) (4.03)
6. Codex Theme #4 (1.37)
7. Rock Bottom (Adam Holzman Remix) (5.01)
8. The Harmony Codex (Mogwai Remix) (9.51)
9. Codex Theme #13 (0.47)

I got a copy but haven't had the chance to listen yet.

faizoff

I'm curious about the remixes. I think only one track from here is on the deluxe boxset, track 5. I would really like to hear these, though I'm not going to get the vinyl, will have to find some rip in the wild if it even exists.

ErHaO

Quote from: faizoff on April 22, 2024, 07:36:37 PM
I'm curious about the remixes. I think only one track from here is on the deluxe boxset, track 5. I would really like to hear these, though I'm not going to get the vinyl, will have to find some rip in the wild if it even exists.

I am sure some fan will rip it and put it somewhere. But hopefully a streaming version as well in the future.

I do think releases like this are cool. And in the realm of RSD releases, the pricing wasn't too bad, with a good amount of copies out there (still expensive though).

I actually really liked several remixes of The Future Bites, so hopefully these are good.

The Letter M

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Wonder what this could be?

-Marc.

Buddyhunter1

He did say the next album would be out before too long, right?

The Letter M


Kram

Quote from: The Letter M on June 21, 2024, 08:02:43 AM
Didn't realize it was coming up so soon! The clip he posted sounded interesting!
https://twitter.com/StevenWilsonHQ/status/1804152364200333619?t=hoGbmEeTNmnz65zoBtKStQ&s=19

-Marc.
I read online it is indeed the followup to The Harmony Codex and it supposedly features two 20-plus minute instrumentals.  This was in some Facebook comments I read, so please take that with a grain of salt.

Bentower

Quote from: Kram on June 23, 2024, 10:47:15 AM
I read online it is indeed the followup to The Harmony Codex and it supposedly features two 20-plus minute instrumentals.  This was in some Facebook comments I read, so please take that with a grain of salt.

I just heard it from the horse's mouth in an interview a couple of weeks ago (https://www.youtube.com/live/EbLUt7OzJ2A?si=irIacUkl78PPfJPK @ 1:26:46). "My next record will be a prog epic with two 25-minute long tracks on it", he says. There was no mention of it being instrumental here, though.

nobloodyname

"I'm not just liking Dream Theater to get in your pants."

Mladen

He just announced a European tour for next years. The new album might be around the corner.