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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #210 on: April 29, 2021, 07:15:50 AM »
Division 2, Week 17 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56415.0
1.   The Root of All Evil defeats As I Am 14-9 
2.   Lie defeats This Dying Soul 13-10 
3.   Endless Sacrifice defeats Outcry 13-10
4.   Strange Deja vu defeats A New Beginning 20-3
5.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats Behind the Veil 19-4 
6.   Stream of Consciousness defeats These Walls 14-9
7.   Caught in a Web defeats Untethered Angel 19-4 
8.   The Great Debate defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 15-8
9.   Another Day defeats Barstool Warrior 13-10
10.   This is the Life defeats Fall into the Light 12-11
11.   Innocence Faded defeats On the Backs of Angels 15-8
12.   The Dance of Eternity defeats Surrender to Reason 14-9
13.   Wait for Sleep defeats Peruvian Skies 14-9
14.   Panic Attack defeats S2N 13-10
15.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Overture 1928 13-10
16.   Hell’s Kitchen defeats Pale Blue Dot 13-10



Division 2 Standings after Week 17 of 20.


The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at season’s end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at season’s end advance to the Division 2 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 1. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 3.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. Strange déjà vu 17-0 (+222)
*2. Space-Dye Vest 17-0 (+146) 
*3. The Root of All Evil 15-1-1 (+122)
*4. Hell’s Kitchen 14-1-2 (+102)   
*5. Lifting Shadows of a Dream 14-1-2 (+63) 
*6. Overture 1928 14-2-1 (+93)
*7. The Great Debate 13-4 (+62)
*8. Wait for Sleep 12-5 (+64) 
*9. The Dance of Eternity 12-5 (+52)   
*10. Stream of Consciousness 11-5-1 (+66) 
11. Panic Attack 10-5-2 (+54)   
12. This Dying Soul 10-5-2 (+39)
13. Barstool Warrior 9-4-4 (+38)     
14. Another Day 9-4-4 (+37)   
15. Pale Blue Dot 8-8-1 (+19)
16. Endless Sacrifice 7-7-3 (-9)   
17. As I Am 8-9 (+25)       
18. Peruvian Skies 8-9 (-27)   
19 Caught in a Web 7-9-1 (+3)     
20. These Walls 6-9-2 (-26) 
21. S2N 6-10-1 (-32) 
X22. This is the Life 5-12 (-101)   
X23. Innocence Faded 4-12-1 (-58)
X24. Lie 4-13 (-41)   
X25. On the Backs of Angels 4-13 (-65)
X26. A New Beginning 3-13-1 (-94)   
X27. Outcry 3-14 (-60)   
X28. Fall into the Light 3-14 (-89) 
X29. Surrender to Reason 2-14-1 (-100) 
X30. The Ministry of Lost Souls 1-15-1 (-123)   
X31. Behind the Veil 0-16-1 (-139)
X32. Untethered Angel 0-17 (-204) 

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #211 on: April 30, 2021, 07:14:17 AM »
Division 1, Week 17 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56418.0
1.   The Glass Prison defeats 6:00 17-6
2.   Blind Faith defeats Bridges in the Sky 14-9
3.   The Spirit Carries On defeats Illumination Theory 12-11
4.   Breaking All Illusions defeats Misunderstood 15-8
5.   Disappear defeats Pull Me Under 12-11
6.   Finally Free defeats At Wit’s End 19-4
7.   Take the Time defeats Erotomania 17-6
8.   Metropolis defeats In the Presence of Enemies 16-7
9.   Beyond This Life defeats In the Name of God 14-9 
10.   Under a Glass Moon defeats Lines in the Sand 12-11
11.   Scarred defeats The Mirror 14-9
12.   Voices defeats Surrounded 14-9
13.   A Change of Seasons defeats Fatal Tragedy 19-4
14.   Home defeats Trial of Tears 16-7
15.   Octavarium defeats The Count of Tuscany 18-5
16.   Learning to Live defeats Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 13-10


Division 1 Standings after Week 17 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at season’s end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at season’s end advance to the Division 1 Championship Tournament. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 2.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. A Change of Seasons 17-0 (+274)
*2. Learning to Live 17-0 (+227)
*3. Metropolis 16-1 (+193)
*4. Octavarium 15-2 (+183)
*5. Home 14-2-1 (+94)
*6. Voices 14-3 (+63) 
*7. Scarred 13-4 (+26) 
*8. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 12-4-1 (+91)   
*9. Breaking All Illusions 12-5 (+77)
*10. Finally Free 12-5 (+54)     
*11. Take the Time 12-5 (+47)
12. Fatal Tragedy 11-6 (+42) 
13. The Count of Tuscany 9-6-2 (+27)
14. Lines in the Sand 9-7-1 (+5)   
15. Trial of Tears 9-7-1 (-5) 
16. Under a Glass Moon 8-7-2 (-24)   
17. Beyond this Life 8-9 (-37)   
18. The Mirror 7-10 (-22)   
19. Surrounded 7-10 (-66) 
20. In the Presence of Enemies 6-10-1 (-52)     
21. Blind Faith 6-10-1 (-55)     
22. The Glass Prison 6-11 (-31)
23. The Spirit Carries On 6-11 (-77) 
X24. Pull Me Under 4-11-2 (-98)
X25. At Wit’s End 4-13 (-132)
X26. In the Name of God 3-13-1 (-55) 
X27. Erotomania 3-14 (-115) 
X28. Bridges in the Sky 1-15-1 (-121)
X29. Disappear 1-16 (-103)
X30. Illumination Theory 0-15-2 (-105)
X31. Misunderstood 1-16 (-143) 
X32. 6:00 1-16 (-170) 

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #212 on: April 30, 2021, 07:28:12 AM »
Learning to Live was risking big time, but came back and won over Six Degrees.

Finally Free took over once again from Fatal Tragedy a place in the top 10, the switch had just happened last week.

Disappear finally gets a win!!! against nothing else than DT's greatest hit, Pull Me Under! this does not bring it outside the relegation zone, but still there's a fighting chance.

6:00 also is at the bottom and, while I have nothing against the song, in such an impossible and heavyweights list I'd daresay it's kinda espexted for it to be last.

Still, that song won at least a match - which leaves only Illumination Theory, a big epic, with incredibily ZERO victories, only two draws!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #213 on: April 30, 2021, 09:22:26 AM »
Disappear finally gets a win!!! against nothing else than DT's greatest hit, Pull Me Under! this does not bring it outside the relegation zone, but still there's a fighting chance.

6:00 also is at the bottom and, while I have nothing against the song, in such an impossible and heavyweights list I'd daresay it's kinda espexted for it to be last.

I'm utterly baffled that 6:00 has fared so poorly and that Disappear beat PMU.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #214 on: May 05, 2021, 07:30:48 AM »
Division 3, Week 18 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56426.0
1.   A Better Life & Ravenskill tied 10-10 
2.   Paralyzed defeats Dystopian Overture 16-7
3.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats New Millennium 13-10
4.   Sacrificed Sons defeats A Life Left Behind 16-7
5.   One Last Time defeats Forsaken 16-7
6.   Constant Motion defeats Lord Nafaryus 16-7 
7.   The Killing Hand defeats Out of Reach 19-4 
8.   Hollow Years defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 17-6
9.   Through Her Eyes defeats The Bigger Picture 14-9
10.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats The Gift of Music 13-10
11.   Three Days defeats The Path That Divides 14-6
12.   Ytse Jam defeats Vacant 15-8
13.   Wither defeats Honor Thy Father 12-11 
14.   Beneath the Surface defeats The Enemy Inside 13-10
15.   Only a Matter of Time defeats The Shattered Fortress 15-7
16.   Raise the Knife defeats The Silent Man 13-9


Division 3 Standings after Week 18 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at season’s end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at season’s end advance to the Division 3 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 2. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to the Outsiders Club.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. Only a Matter of Time 17-0-1 (+92)   
*2. Sacrificed Sons 17-1 (+160)
*3. Lost Not Forgotten 17-1 (+88)   
*4. The Killing Hand 16-1-1 (+137)   
*5. Raise the Knife 15-3 (+75) 
*6. One Last Time 14-4 (+98) 
*7. Ytse Jam 13-3-2 (+74)   
*8. Honor Thy Father 12-5-1 (+24)
*9. Wither 12-6 (+22)   
*10. Through Her Eyes 11-6-1 (+30) 
11. A Nightmare to Remember 10-6-2 (+44)
12. The Silent Man 10-6-2 (+33)     
13. New Millennium 11-7 (+19)   
14. The Shattered Fortress 9-8-1 (+10)   
15. Hollow Years 8-8-2 (+46) 
16. Beneath the Surface 9-9 (+10)
17. Constant Motion 8-8-2 (+9)     
18. The Enemy Inside 9-9 (-6) 
19. The Path That Divides 8-8-2 (-18) 
20. The Bigger Picture 8-9-1 (+11)
21. Three Days 7-9-2 (+3) 
X22. The Gift of Music 6-11-1 (-32) 
X23. Vacant 4-12-2 (-55)   
X24. Paralyzed 5-13 (-57)   
X25. Lord Nafaryus 4-13-1 (-75)   
X26. Out of Reach 4-14 (-77)
X27. Forsaken 3-14-1 (-55)     
X28. A Life Left Behind 2-14-2 (-43)   
X29. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 2-16 (-146)
X30. A Better Life 1-16-1 (-99) 
X31. Dystopian Overture 1-16-1 (-131)
X32. Ravenskill 0-17-1 (-111)


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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #215 on: May 05, 2021, 07:37:52 AM »
D'UH. A Better Life and Ravenskill are matched together, so at least one song would win.... and OBVIOUSLY they draw. Meh.

At this point, a victory would have benefitted A Better Life 'cause the previous only victory it had would give her a fighting chance, but a draw serves absolutely nothing to either songs - not a very helpful second win for A Better Life, nor a consolation victory for Ravenskill to scroll off that "0" in the table.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #216 on: May 05, 2021, 09:12:54 AM »
If I'm not mistaken, Ravenskill has clinched banishment.  With two weeks remaining, the best it can do is 2-17-1 (or 2.5-17.5).  A Life Left Behind currently occupies the final "safe" spot, and the worst it can do is 2-16-2 (or 3-17).  Therefore, it's off to the salt mines with Ravenskill.

The other three of the bottom four songs still have a sliver of hope.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #217 on: May 06, 2021, 07:20:58 AM »
If I'm not mistaken, Ravenskill has clinched banishment.  With two weeks remaining, the best it can do is 2-17-1 (or 2.5-17.5).  A Life Left Behind currently occupies the final "safe" spot, and the worst it can do is 2-16-2 (or 3-17).  Therefore, it's off to the salt mines with Ravenskill.

The other three of the bottom four songs still have a sliver of hope.

That's right!



Division 2, Week 18 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56428.0
1.   Behind the Veil defeats A New Beginning 11-10
2.   Stream of Consciousness defeats Lie 13-9
3.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats Untethered Angel 17-5 
4.   Barstool Warrior defeats Caught in a Web 13-9 
5.   This is the Life defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 13-9
6.   Another Day defeats Innocence Faded 12-10
7.   Surrender to Reason defeats Fall into the Light 11-10 
8.   Peruvian Skies defeats On the Backs of Angels 13-9
9.   The Dance of Eternity defeats S2N 13-9 
10.   Wait For Sleep defeats Pale Blue Dot 12-10
11.   Hell’s Kitchen defeats Endless Sacrifice 14-8
12.   The Great Debate defeats These Walls 13-9
13.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Outcry 18-4 
14.   Strange Deja vu defeats As I Am 18-4
15.   Overture 1928 defeats Panic Attack 15-7
16.   The Root of All Evil defeats This Dying Soul 13-9 



Division 2 Standings after Week 18 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at season’s end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at season’s end advance to the Division 2 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 1. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 3.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. Strange déjà vu 18-0 (+236)
*2. Space-Dye Vest 18-0 (+160) 
*3. The Root of All Evil 16-1-1 (+126)
*4. Hell’s Kitchen 15-1-2 (+108)   
*5. Lifting Shadows of a Dream 15-1-2 (+75) 
*6. Overture 1928 15-2-1 (+101)
*7. The Great Debate 14-4 (+66)
*8. Wait for Sleep 13-5 (+66) 
*9. The Dance of Eternity 13-5 (+56)   
*10. Stream of Consciousness 12-5-1 (+70) 
*11. Barstool Warrior 10-4-4 (+42)     
*12. Another Day 10-4-4 (+39)   
*13. Panic Attack 10-6-2 (+46)   
*14. This Dying Soul 10-6-2 (+35)
15. Peruvian Skies 9-9 (-23)   
16. Pale Blue Dot 8-9-1 (+17)
17. Endless Sacrifice 7-8-3 (-15)   
18. As I Am 8-10 (+11)       
19 Caught in a Web 7-10-1 (-1)     
20. These Walls 6-10-2 (-30) 
21. S2N 6-11-1 (-36) 
X22. This is the Life 6-12 (-97)   
X23. Innocence Faded 4-13-1 (-60)
X24. Lie 4-14 (-45)   
X25. On the Backs of Angels 4-14 (-69)
X26. A New Beginning 3-14-1 (-95)   
X27. Surrender to Reason 3-14-1 (-99) 
X28. Outcry 3-15 (-74)   
X29. Fall into the Light 3-15 (-90) 
X30. The Ministry of Lost Souls 1-16-1 (-127)   
X31. Behind the Veil 1-16-1 (-138)
X32. Untethered Angel 0-18 (-216) 



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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #218 on: May 06, 2021, 07:28:10 AM »
"My personal tastes are right" moment: pity to see These Walls and Lie so low, I would probably have them actually promoted, or at the very least in the top 16 in place of The Great Debate, This Dying Soul or Hell's Kitchen.

Let's also see if there will be a joint victory at the top, or the SDV duo will stumble at the very end!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #219 on: May 06, 2021, 09:17:27 AM »
"My personal tastes are right" moment

This is probably the division with what are, to me, the most baffling results.  Space-Dye Vest with a perfect record??  Wait for Sleep is a fine little intro to Learning to Leave.  By itself, however, there's no way it should have a 13-5 record while Outcry is 3-15.  And don't even get me started on The Great Debate.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #220 on: May 06, 2021, 06:12:33 PM »
I can see what you're saying - am especially surprised at how well TGD has been doing - not that I'm complaining as I really like the song. If these contests were to run so that every single song would be compared to every other song, maybe things might balance out a bit more. But then again, maybe not. Keep in mind that there's not that many who are actually participating, so it's probably not all that accurate according to the fanbase as a whole, or even everyone who's a regular part of this forum in general.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #221 on: May 07, 2021, 07:15:30 AM »
Division 1, Week 18 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56432.0
1.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats 6:00 17-3   
2.   The Mirror defeats Bridges in the Sky 13-7 
3.   Disappear defeats Misunderstood 11-9 
4.   Beyond This Life defeats At Wit’s End 13-7
5.   Octavarium defeats Erotomania 16-4
6.   Fatal Tragedy defeats Surrounded 13-7
7.   Finally Free defeats Under a Glass Moon 12-8
8.   Take the Time defeats Pull Me Under 15-5
9.   Voices defeats Blind Faith 16-4 
10.   The Spirit Carries On defeats In the Presence of Enemies 12-8
11.   Breaking All Illusions defeats Illumination Theory 11-9
12.   The Glass Prison defeats In the Name of God 11-9 
13.   Scarred defeats The Count of Tuscany 11-9
14.   A Change of Seasons defeats Lines in the Sand 18-2
15.   Learning to Live defeats Trial of Tears 15-5
16.   Metropolis defeats Home 14-6 


Division 1 Standings after Week 18 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at season’s end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at season’s end advance to the Division 1 Championship Tournament. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 2.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. A Change of Seasons 18-0 (+290)
*2. Learning to Live 18-0 (+237)
*3. Metropolis 17-1 (+201)
*4. Octavarium 16-2 (+195)
*5. Voices 15-3 (+75)   
*6. Home 14-3-1 (+86)
*7. Scarred 14-4 (+28) 
*8. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 13-4-1 (+105)   
*9. Breaking All Illusions 13-5 (+79)
*10. Finally Free 13-5 (+58)     
*11. Take the Time 13-5 (+57)
*12. Fatal Tragedy 12-6 (+48) 
13. The Count of Tuscany 9-7-2 (+25)
14. Lines in the Sand 9-8-1 (-11)   
15. Trial of Tears 9-8-1 (-15) 
16. Under a Glass Moon 8-8-2 (-28)   
17. Beyond this Life 9-9 (-31)   
18. The Mirror 8-10 (-16)   
19. The Glass Prison 7-11 (-29)
20. Surrounded 7-11 (-72) 
21. The Spirit Carries On 7-11 (-73)   
X22. In the Presence of Enemies 6-11-1 (-56)       
X23. Blind Faith 6-11-1 (-67)     
X24. Pull Me Under 4-12-2 (-108)
X25. At Wit’s End 4-14 (-138)
X26. In the Name of God 3-14-1 (-57) 
X27. Erotomania 3-15 (-127) 
X28. Disappear 2-16 (-101) 
X29. Bridges in the Sky 1-16-1 (-127)
X30. Illumination Theory 0-16-2 (-107)
X31. Misunderstood 1-17 (-145) 
X32. 6:00 1-17 (-184) 

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #222 on: May 07, 2021, 07:21:01 AM »
Minor change at the top, with Voices gaining a position over Home. Stunning how we have to drop until the 19th position to find a SECOND change!

A major change also happens at the bottom, with Disappear finally dragging itself out of the relegation zone, which is good. However now Bridges in the Sky is in danger, which is bad.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #223 on: May 12, 2021, 08:04:46 AM »
Division 3, Week 19 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56442.0
1.   New Millennium defeats Vacant 13-9 
2.   Through Her Eyes & Paralyzed tied 11-11
3.   Hollow Years defeats The Path That Divides 13-9
4.   Out of Reach defeats Ravenskill 12-10
5.   Ytse Jam defeats Lord Nafaryus 16-6
6.   Raise the Knife defeats A Better Life 16-5 
7.   The Shattered Fortress defeats Dystopian Overture 15-7 
8.   The Silent Man defeats The Bigger Picture 13-9
9.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 17-4
10.   Constant Motion defeats Forsaken 14-8
11.   The Killing Hand defeats A Life Left Behind 16-5
12.   The Enemy Inside defeats Three Days 13-9 
13.   Only a Matter of Time & The Gift of Music tied 11-11
14.   Beneath the Surface defeats A Nightmare to Remember 12-10 
15.   Sacrificed Sons defeats Wither 15-7 
16.   One Last Time & Honor Thy Father tied 11-11


Division 3 Standings after Week 19 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at season’s end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at season’s end advance to the Division 3 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 2. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to the Outsiders Club.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. Sacrificed Sons 18-1 (+168)
*2. Lost Not Forgotten 18-1 (+101)     
*3. Only a Matter of Time 17-0-2 (+92)   
*4. The Killing Hand 17-1-1 (+148)   
*5. Raise the Knife 16-3 (+86) 
*6. Ytse Jam 14-3-2 (+84)   
*7. One Last Time 14-4-1 (+98) 
*8. Honor Thy Father 12-5-2 (+24)
*9. Through Her Eyes 11-6-2 (+30)   
*10. The Silent Man 11-6-2 (+37)     
*11. New Millennium 12-7 (+23)   
*12. Wither 12-7 (+14)   
13. A Nightmare to Remember 10-7-2 (+42)
14. The Shattered Fortress 10-8-1 (+18)   
15. Hollow Years 9-8-2 (+50) 
16. Beneath the Surface 10-9 (+12)
17. Constant Motion 9-8-2 (+15)     
18. The Enemy Inside 10-9 (-2) 
19. The Path That Divides 8-9-2 (-22) 
X20. The Bigger Picture 8-10-1 (0)
X21. Three Days 7-10-2 (-1) 
X22. The Gift of Music 6-11-2 (-32) 
X23. Paralyzed 5-13-1 (-57)   
X24. Vacant 4-13-2 (-59)   
X25. Out of Reach 5-14 (-75)
X26. Lord Nafaryus 4-14-1 (-85)   
X27. Forsaken 3-15-1 (-61)     
X28. A Life Left Behind 2-15-2 (-54)   
X29. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 2-17 (-159)
X30. A Better Life 1-17-1 (-110) 
X31. Dystopian Overture 1-17-1 (-139)
X32. Ravenskill 0-18-1 (-113)


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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #224 on: May 12, 2021, 09:29:41 AM »
X27. Forsaken 3-15-1 (-61)     
X28. A Life Left Behind 2-15-2 (-54)   
X29. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 2-17 (-159)
X30. A Better Life 1-17-1 (-110) 
X31. Dystopian Overture 1-17-1 (-139)
X32. Ravenskill 0-18-1 (-113)

I believe the bottom four here have clinched banishment.  Even if BMUBMD wins and A Life Left Behind loses in the final week, they'd be tied, but the vote differential gap is too much for BMUBMD to overcome.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #225 on: May 13, 2021, 08:17:10 AM »
Division 2, Week 19 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56445.0
1.   The Root of All Evil defeats On the Backs of Angels 18-5 
2.   S2N defeats Surrender to Reason 15-8
3.   Innocence Faded defeats Pale Blue Dot 13-10 
4.   Overture 1928 defeats This is the Life 19-4
5.   The Great Debate defeats Outcry 16-7 
6.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Untethered Angel 18-4
7.   Panic Attack defeats Behind the Veil 13-10
8.   Fall into the Light defeats A New Beginning 13-10
9.   Another Day defeats Lie 16-7
10.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 17-6 
11.   These Walls defeats Caught in a Web 12-11
12.   Wait For Sleep defeats This Dying Soul 14-9
13.   Strange Deja vu defeats The Dance of Eternity 16-7
14.   Endless Sacrifice defeats Barstool Warrior 13-10 
15.   As I Am defeats Peruvian Skies 12-11 
16.   Hell’s Kitchen defeats Stream of Consciousness 13-10


Division 2 Standings after Week 19 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at season’s end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at season’s end advance to the Division 2 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 1. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 3.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. Strange déjà vu 19-0 (+245)
*2. Space-Dye Vest 19-0 (+174) 
*3. The Root of All Evil 17-1-1 (+139)
*4. Hell’s Kitchen 16-1-2 (+111)   
*5. Lifting Shadows off a Dream 16-1-2 (+86) 
*6. Overture 1928 16-2-1 (+116)
*7. The Great Debate 15-4 (+75)
*8. Wait for Sleep 14-5 (+71) 
*9. The Dance of Eternity 13-6 (+65)   
*10. Another Day 11-4-4 (+48)     
*11. Stream of Consciousness 12-6-1 (+67) 
*12. Barstool Warrior 10-5-4 (+39)     
*13. Panic Attack 11-6-2 (+49)   
*14. This Dying Soul 10-7-2 (+30)
15. Endless Sacrifice 8-8-3 (-12)   
16. As I Am 9-10 (+12)         
17. Peruvian Skies 9-10 (-24)   
18. Pale Blue Dot 8-10-1 (+14)
19. These Walls 7-10-2 (-29)   
X20 Caught in a Web 7-11-1 (-2)     
X21. S2N 7-11-1 (-29) 
X22. This is the Life 6-13 (-112)   
X23. Innocence Faded 5-13-1 (-57)
X24. Lie 4-15 (-54)   
X25. On the Backs of Angels 4-15 (-82)
X26. Fall into the Light 4-15 (-87)   
X27. A New Beginning 3-15-1 (-98)   
X28. Surrender to Reason 3-15-1 (-106) 
X29. Outcry 3-16 (-83)   
X30. The Ministry of Lost Souls 1-17-1 (-138)   
X31. Behind the Veil 1-17-1 (-141)
X32. Untethered Angel 0-19 (-230) 

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #226 on: May 13, 2021, 08:23:29 AM »
The last three songs are doomed. Now there's gonna be a three way fight for salvation.

The SDV duo secured the two top spots with one turn left, now it's just a matter of who ends up first.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #227 on: May 13, 2021, 09:42:29 AM »
The SDV duo secured the two top spots with one turn left, now it's just a matter of who ends up first.

Given the 71 vote edge that Strange Deja Vu has in vote differential, it has 1st place sewn up.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #228 on: May 13, 2021, 09:45:53 AM »
Unless it loses.... which given the perfect score so far, it won't probably happen, unless the very last match is the SDV derby!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #229 on: May 13, 2021, 09:51:03 AM »
Unless it loses.... which given the perfect score so far, it won't probably happen, unless the very last match is the SDV derby!

True...maybe those songs will face off against each other.  That vote wouldn't even be a question for me, but I've been surprised at how well some of what I consider to be "lesser" songs from I&W and Awake have been performing.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #230 on: May 14, 2021, 07:56:26 AM »
Division 1, Week 19 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56446.0
1.   The Glass Prison defeats Misunderstood 14-7 
2.   Beyond This Life defeats Illumination Theory 15-6
3.   Surrounded defeats At Wit’s End 14-7
4.   Disappear defeats Bridges in the Sky 14-7 
5.   Blind Faith defeats In the Name of God 12-9
6.   The Mirror defeats 6:00 16-5
7.   Trial of Tears defeats Erotomania 15-6 
8.   Finally Free defeats In the Presence of Enemies 14-7
9.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Pull Me Under 15-6
10.   Fatal Tragedy defeats The Spirit Carries On 15-6
11.   A Change of Seasons defeats Under a Glass Moon 19-2
12.   Metropolis defeats Lines in the Sand 16-5
13.   Learning to Live defeats The Count of Tuscany 14-7
14.   Scarred defeats Take the Time 11-10
15.   Octavarium defeats Home 13-8
16.   Voices defeats Breaking All Illusions 13-8



Division 1 Standings after Week 19 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at season’s end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at season’s end advance to the Division 1 Championship Tournament. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 2.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. A Change of Seasons 19-0 (+307)
*2. Learning to Live 19-0 (+244)
*3. Metropolis 18-1 (+212)
*4. Octavarium 17-2 (+200)
*5. Voices 16-3 (+80)   
*6. Scarred 15-4 (+29)   
*7. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 14-4-1 (+114)   
*8. Home 14-4-1 (+81)
*9. Finally Free 14-5 (+65)       
*10. Breaking All Illusions 13-6 (+74)
*11. Fatal Tragedy 13-6 (+57)   
*12. Take the Time 13-6 (+56)
*13. Trial of Tears 10-8-1 (-6)   
14. The Count of Tuscany 9-8-2 (+18)
15. Beyond this Life 10-9 (-22)     
16. Lines in the Sand 9-9-1 (-22)   
17. The Mirror 9-10 (-5)     
18. Under a Glass Moon 8-9-2 (-45)   
X19. The Glass Prison 8-11 (-22)
X20. Surrounded 8-11 (-65) 
X21. Blind Faith 7-11-1 (-64)       
X22. The Spirit Carries On 7-12 (-82)   
X23. In the Presence of Enemies 6-12-1 (-63)       
X24. Pull Me Under 4-13-2 (-117)
X25. At Wit’s End 4-15 (-138)
X26. In the Name of God 3-15-1 (-60) 
X27. Disappear 3-16 (-94) 
X28. Erotomania 3-16 (-136) 
X29. Bridges in the Sky 1-17-1 (-134)
X30. Illumination Theory 0-17-2 (-116)
X31. Misunderstood 1-18 (-152) 
X32. 6:00 1-18 (-195) 

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #231 on: May 14, 2021, 09:49:29 AM »
And we have the four songs doomed to relegation.

Now I hope with the next turn that The Mirror will snatch away Lines in the Sand's 16th position!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #232 on: May 14, 2021, 10:50:16 AM »
X29. Bridges in the Sky 1-17-1 (-134)
X30. Illumination Theory 0-17-2 (-116)
X31. Misunderstood 1-18 (-152) 
X32. 6:00 1-18 (-195)

As my kids say, "SMH my head."  And yet stuff like The Mirror and Disappear get to stay.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #233 on: May 14, 2021, 11:57:54 AM »
Now I hope with the next turn that The Mirror will snatch away Lines in the Sand's 16th position!
Nah - better that TM and LitS both win, and BtL loses!   ;)
 
 
And yet stuff like The Mirror and Disappear get to stay.
Well, nobody ever said that you're right pg!   :biggrin:
(I love both of those tracks - glad to see Disappear finally getting some wins)
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« Reply #234 on: May 19, 2021, 02:18:01 PM »
Division 3, Week 20 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56471.0
1.   Raise the Knife defeats The Gift of Music 13-6 
2.   One Last Time defeats Out of Reach 17-3 
3.   Wither defeats A Life Left Behind 13-7
4.   New Millennium defeats Through Her Eyes 12-8
5.   Vacant defeats Forsaken 11-9
6.   The Killing Hand defeats Three Days 14-5
7.   Build Me Up, Break Me Down defeats Dystopian Overture 11-9
8.   Only a Matter of Time defeats Lord Nafaryus 13-6
9.   The Silent Man defeats Ytse Jam 10-9
10.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Honor Thy Father 12-8
11.   Sacrificed Sons defeats Hollow Years 11-9 
12.   Constant Motion defeats A Better Life 13-7
13.   The Bigger Picture defeats A Nightmare to Remember 11-9
14.   The Enemy Inside defeats Paralyzed 10-8
15.   Beneath the Surface defeats Ravenskill 13-7
16.   The Shattered Fortress defeats The Path That Divides 11-9


Division 3 Standings after Week 20 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at season’s end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at season’s end advance to the Division 3 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 2. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to the Outsiders Club.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. Only a Matter of Time 18-0-2 (+99)   
*2. Sacrificed Sons 19-1 (+170)
*3. Lost Not Forgotten 19-1 (+105)       
*4. The Killing Hand 18-1-1 (+157)   
*5. Raise the Knife 17-3 (+93) 
*6. One Last Time 15-4-1 (+112) 
*7. Ytse Jam 14-4-2 (+83)   
*8. The Silent Man 12-6-2 (+38)   
*9. New Millennium 13-7 (+27)     
*10. Wither 13-7 (+20)   
*11. Honor Thy Father 12-6-2 (+20)
*12. Through Her Eyes 11-7-2 (+26)   
*13. The Shattered Fortress 11-8-1 (+20)   
*14. A Nightmare to Remember 10-8-2 (+40)
*15. Constant Motion 10-8-2 (+21)
*16. Beneath the Surface 11-9 (+18)
17. The Enemy Inside 11-9 (0) 
18. Hollow Years 9-9-2 (+48)
19. The Bigger Picture 9-10-1 (+2)
20. The Path That Divides 8-10-2 (-24) 
21. Three Days 7-11-2 (-10) 
22. The Gift of Music 6-12-2 (-39) 
23. Vacant 5-13-2 (-57)   
24. Paralyzed 5-14-1 (-59)   
25. Out of Reach 5-15 (-89)
26. Lord Nafaryus 4-15-1 (-92)   
27. Forsaken 3-16-1 (-63)     
28. A Life Left Behind 2-16-2 (-60)   
29. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 3-17 (-157)
30. A Better Life 1-18-1 (-116) 
31. Dystopian Overture 1-18-1 (-141)
32. Ravenskill 0-19-1 (-119)



Division 3 Tiebreakers

#1 - Lost Not Forgotten, Only a Matter of Time, Sacrificed Sons
Only a Matter of Time defeated Lost Not Forgotten 17-12 in Week 2
Only a Matter of Time defeated Sacrificed Sons 12-11 in Week 13.


#2 - Lost Not Forgotten, Sacrificed Sons
Songs did not meet during the season, but Sacrificed Sons has the better point differential (+170/+105)


#8 - Honor Thy Father, New Millennium, The Silent Man, Wither
Every song did not face off.
The Silent Man defeated Wither 12-10 in Week 11.
The Silent Man defeated Honor thy Father 16-12 in Week 16
Wither defeated Honor thy Father 12-11 in Week in Week 18

The Silent Man has the best point differential (+38/+27/+20/+20)


#9 - Honor thy Father, New Millennium, Wither
Every Song did not face off.
Wither defeated Honor thy Father 12-11 in Week in Week 18

New Millennium has the best point differential (+27/+20/+20)


#10 - Honor thy Father, Wither
Wither defeated Honor thy Father 12-11 in Week in Week 18


#14 - A Nightmare to Remember, Beneath the Surface, Constant Motion, The Enemy Inside
Every Song did not face off.
A Nightmare to Remember defeated The Enemy Inside 16-9 in Week 6.
Constant Motion defeated Beneath the Surface 15-9 in Week 8.
The Enemy Inside defeated Constant Motion 13-10 in Week 15.
Beneath the Surface defeated The Enemy Inside 13-10 in Week 18.
Beneath the Surface defeated A Nightmare to Remember 12-10 Week 19.

A Nightmare to Remember has the best point differential (+40/+21/+18/0)


#15 - Beneath the Surface, Constant Motion, The Enemy Inside
Every song went 1-1 against the other two songs.
Constant Motion defeated Beneath the Surface 15-9 in Week 8.
The Enemy Inside defeated Constant Motion 13-10 in Week 15.
Beneath the Surface defeated The Enemy Inside 13-10 in Week 18.
 
Constant Motion has the best point differential (+21/+18/0)


#16 - Beneath the Surface, The Enemy Inside
Beneath the Surface defeated The Enemy Inside 13-10 in Week 18.


#28 – Build Me Up, Break Me Down, A Life Left Behind
Songs did not face off.

A Life Left Behind has the better point differential (-60/-157)


#30 – A Better Life, Dystopian Overture
A Better Life defeats Dystopian Overture 12-8 in Week 4.   


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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #235 on: May 19, 2021, 02:36:09 PM »
Out of curiosity, were BMUBMD's three wins against the songs that finished below it?
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« Reply #236 on: May 19, 2021, 02:44:52 PM »
That's right!

Beat Ravenskill 13-12 in Week 7.
Beat A Better Life 15-8 in Week 10.
Beat Dystopian Overture 11-9 in Week 20.

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« Reply #237 on: May 19, 2021, 03:25:53 PM »
That's right!

Beat Ravenskill 13-12 in Week 7.
Beat A Better Life 15-8 in Week 10.
Beat Dystopian Overture 11-9 in Week 20.

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« Reply #238 on: May 19, 2021, 04:04:28 PM »
And, quite strangely, Dystopian Overture's only win was against New Millennium, a song that finished in the #9 spot.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #239 on: May 20, 2021, 01:08:19 AM »
So Only a Matter of Time wins because of the direct matches! do I totally misremember this song being one of the upcoming from the void, alongside Raise the Knife (that ended fifth) and Hollow Years?

Pity that A Better Life and Ravenskill got no love at all, I consider them both far sperior to A Life Left Behind, if The Path that Divides got 8 victories, at least four wins here and there could have been gathered by two of the best Astonishing songs... uh well, I have something to vote for during the next promotion preliinary round!
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« Reply #240 on: May 21, 2021, 07:05:35 AM »
Division 2, Week 20 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56472.0
1.   Innocence Faded defeats Untethered Angel 13-9
2.   Stream of Consciousness defeats Surrender to Reason 15-7
3.   The Great Debate defeats This is the Life 13-9
4.   This Dying Soul defeats S2N 13-9
5.   Lie defeats Outcry 14-8
6.   Caught in a Web defeats Panic Attack 13-9
7.   Wait For Sleep defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 18-4
8.   On the Backs of Angels defeats Fall into the Light 12-10
9.   The Dance of Eternity & Another Day tied 11-11
10.   Overture 1928 defeats The Root of All Evil 14-8 
11.   Endless Sacrifice defeats A New Beginning 13-9
12.   Peruvian Skies defeats Behind the Veil 16-6
13.   Barstool Warrior & As I Am tied 11-11
14.   Hell’s Kitchen defeats These Walls 17-5
15.   Strange Deja vu defeats Pale Blue Dot 16-6 
16.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 13-9



Division 2 Standings after Week 20 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at season’s end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at season’s end advance to the Division 2 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 1. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 3.

* = Clinched playoff spot

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. Strange déjà vu 20-0 (+255)
*2. Space-Dye Vest 20-0 (+174) 
*3. Hell’s Kitchen 17-1-2 (+123)   
*4. Overture 1928 17-2-1 (+122)
*5. The Root of All Evil 17-2-1 (+133)
*6. Lifting Shadows off a Dream 16-2-2 (+82) 
*7. The Great Debate 16-4 (+79)
*8. Wait for Sleep 15-5 (+85) 
*9. Stream of Consciousness 13-6-1 (+75) 
*10. The Dance of Eternity 13-6-1 (+65)   
*11. Another Day 11-4-5 (+48)     
*12. Barstool Warrior 10-5-5 (+39)     
*13. Panic Attack 11-7-2 (+45)   
*14. This Dying Soul 11-7-2 (+34)
*15. Endless Sacrifice 9-8-3 (-8)   
*16. Peruvian Skies 10-10 (-14)
17. As I Am 9-10-1 (+12)         
18. Pale Blue Dot 8-11-1 (+4)
19 Caught in a Web 8-11-1 (+2)     
20. These Walls 7-11-2 (-41)   
21. S2N 7-12-1 (-33) 
22. Innocence Faded 6-13-1 (-53)
23. This is the Life 6-14 (-116)   
24. Lie 5-15 (-48)   
25. On the Backs of Angels 5-15 (-80)
26. Fall into the Light 4-16 (-89)   
27. A New Beginning 3-16-1 (-102)   
28. Surrender to Reason 3-16-1 (-114) 
29. Outcry 3-17 (-89)   
30. The Ministry of Lost Souls 1-18-1 (-152)   
31. Behind the Veil 1-18-1 (-151)
32. Untethered Angel 0-20 (-234) 


Division 2 Tiebreakers

#1 – Space-Dye Vest, Strange Déjà vu
Songs did not face off.

Strange Déjà vu has the better point differential (+255/+174)

#4 – Overture 1928, The Root of All Evil
Overture 1928 defeated The Root of All Evil 14-8 in Week 20.

#9 – Another Day, The Dance of Eternity, Stream of Consciousness
Another Day & The Dance of Eternity tied 11-11 in Week 20.
Stream of Consciousness defeated Another Day 12-9 in Week 15.
Stream of Consciousness defeated The dance of Eternity 14-12 in Week 3.

Stream of Consciousness defeated the other two songs.

#10 – Another Day, The Dance of Eternity
Another Day & The Dance of Eternity tied 11-11 in Week 20

The Dance of Eternity has the better point differential (+65/+48)

#13 – Panic Attack, This Dying Soul
Songs did not face off.

Panic Attack has the better point differential (+45/+34)

#18 – Caught in a Web, Pale Blue Dot
Songs did not face off.

Pale Blue Dot has the better point differential (+4/+2)

#24 – Lie, On the Backs of Angels
Songs did not face off.

Lie has the better point differential (-48/-80)

#27 – A New Beginning, Surrender to Reason
A New Beginning defeated Surrender to Reason 14-9 in Week 4.

#30 – Behind the Veil, The Ministry of Lost Souls
The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats Behind the Veil 11-10 in Week 15.



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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #241 on: May 21, 2021, 07:24:55 AM »
No dramatic last minute upset! SDV wins the division, and there's no need to specify which songs since both songs were leaders of the entire division from beginning to the end! congrats however to Strange Deja Vu for properly winning, with its sister song (overture 1928) coming fourth, after Hell's Kitchen which to me has no business of being on the podium, just like The Great Debate should be much lower than #7, maybe in favor of Lie and These Walls which won't take part in the championship tournament, what a pity!

No hope left also for the four songs at the bottom, Surrender to Reason saves itself and the songs that were fourth last time go down (also because only Outcry had still a chance).

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« Reply #242 on: May 21, 2021, 07:57:30 AM »
Division 1, Week 20 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56475.0
1.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats Bridges in the Sky 13-11
2.   Home defeats Disappear 21-3
3.   In the Name of God defeats At Wit’s End 17-7
4.   Octavarium defeats The Spirit Carries On 22-2
5.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Blind Faith 18-6 
6.   Fatal Tragedy defeats Misunderstood 21-3
7.   Finally Free defeats Erotomania 16-8
8.   Voices defeats Illumination Theory 14-10
9.   Trial of Tears defeats Surrounded 13-11 
10.   Under a Glass Moon defeats 6:00 17-7
11.   Lines in the Sand defeats Pull Me Under 15-9
12.   The Glass Prison defeats The Mirror 15-9
13.   The Count of Tuscany defeats Beyond This Life 13-11
14.   Metropolis defeats Scarred 19-5 
15.   Breaking All Illusions defeats Take the Time 14-10 
16.   A Change of Seasons defeats Learning to Live 15-8


Division 1 Standings after Week 20 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at season’s end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at season’s end advance to the Division 1 Championship Tournament. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 2.

* = Clinched playoff spot.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. A Change of Seasons 20-0 (+314)
*2. Learning to Live 19-1 (+237)
*3. Metropolis 19-1 (+226)
*4. Octavarium 18-2 (+220)
*5. Voices 17-3 (+84)   
*6. Home 15-4-1 (+99)
*7. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 15-4-1 (+126)   
*8. Scarred 15-5 (+15)   
*9. Finally Free 15-5 (+73)       
*10. Breaking All Illusions 14-6 (+78)
*11. Fatal Tragedy 14-6 (+75)   
*12. Take the Time 13-7 (+52)
*13. Trial of Tears 11-8-1 (-4)   
*14. The Count of Tuscany 10-8-2 (+20)
*15. Lines in the Sand 10-9-1 (-16)   
*16. Beyond this Life 10-10 (-24)     
17. Under a Glass Moon 9-9-2 (-35)   
18. The Glass Prison 9-11 (-16)
19. The Mirror 9-11 (-11)     
20. Surrounded 8-12 (-67) 
21. Blind Faith 7-12-1 (-76)       
22. In the Presence of Enemies 7-12-1 (-61)       
23. The Spirit Carries On 7-13 (-102)   
24. Pull Me Under 4-14-2 (-123)
25. In the Name of God 4-15-1 (-50) 
26. At Wit’s End 4-16 (-148)
27. Erotomania 3-17 (-144) 
28. Disappear 3-17 (-112) 
29. Bridges in the Sky 1-18-1 (-136)
30. Illumination Theory 0-18-2 (-120)
31. Misunderstood 1-19 (-170) 
32. 6:00 1-19 (-205) 


Division 1 Tiebreakers

#2 – Learning to Live, Metropolis
Songs did not face off.

Learning to Live has the better point differential (+237/+226)

#6 – Home, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Home defeated Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 14-12 in Week 2.

#8 – Finally Free, Scarred
Scarred defeated Finally Free 12-11 in Week 9.

#10 – Breaking All Illusions, Fatal Tragedy
Breaking All Illusions defeated Fatal Tragedy in Week 6.

#16 – Beyond This Life, Under a Glass Moon
Songs did not face off.

Beyond this Life has the better point differential (-24/-35)

#18 – The Glass Prison, The Mirror
The Glass Prison defeated the Mirror 15-9 in Week 20.

#21 – Blind Faith, In the Presence of Enemies
Blind Faith defeated In the Presence of Enemies 12-11 in Week 16.

#27 – Disappear, Erotomania
Erotomania defeated Disappear 17-13 in Week 1.

#30 – 6:00, Illumination Theory, Misunderstood
None of these songs faced off.

Illumination Theory has the better point differential (-120/-170/-205)

#31 – 6:00, Misunderstood
Songs did not face off

Misunderstood has the better point differential (-170/-205)


The Album Tournaments begin on Sunday.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #243 on: May 21, 2021, 08:07:48 AM »
Here instead we have the big final match, which consecrates A Change of Seasons as the undefeated division champion!!!

The defeat robs Learning to Live of a victory, or at least a co-victory, but not of the second place, with Metropolis arriving third because of a worse differential.

The Glass Prison defeats my boy The Mirror, keeping both outside of the final tournament... damn!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #244 on: May 21, 2021, 08:32:02 AM »
This is the upcoming schedule, barring anything crazy happening. Album order based on the standings of the Album division we did earlier this year. We'll have a separate tournament for the albums themselves as well.

Album Tournaments Schedule

Opening Week (As applicable)
SUN 5/23 – SC N/A, WDADU N/A, TA 1st Round
MON 5/24 - DT 1st Round, BC&SL N/A, FII 1st Round
TUE 5/25 – ToT N/A, DoT 1st Round
WED 5/26 – ADToE 1st Round, 8VM N/A, TA 2nd Round
THU 5/27 – SDoIT N/A, Awake 1st Round
FRI 5/28 – SFAM 1st Round, I&W N/A

Album Quarterfinals Week
SUN 5/30 – SC, WDADU, TA
MON 5/31 - DT, BC&SL, FII
TUE 6/1 – ToT, DoT
WED 6/2 – ADToE, 8VM
THU 6/3 – SDoIT, Awake 
FRI 6/4 – SFAM, I&W

Album Semifinals Week
SUN 6/6 – SC, WDADU, TA
MON 6/7 – DT, BC&SL, FII
TUE 6/8 – ToT, DoT
WED 6/9 – ADToE, 8VM
THU 6/10 – SDoIT, Awake
FRI 6/11 – SFAM, I&W

Album Championship Week
SUN 6/13 – SC, WDADU, TA
MON 6/14 – DT, BC&SL, FII
TUE 6/15 – ToT, DoT
WED 6/16 – ADToE, 8VM
THU 6/17 – SDoIT, Album Tournament, Opening Round
FRI 6/18 – SFAM, I&W 


Championship Tournament Schedule

Division Tournaments Opening Round
MON 6/21 – Division 3, Opening Round
TUE 6/22 – Division 2, Opening Round
WED 6/23 – Division 1, Opening Round
THU 6/24 – Album Tournament, Quarterfinals

Division Tournaments Quarterfinals
MON 6/28 – Division 3, Quarterfinals
TUE 6/29 – Division 2, Quarterfinals
WED 6/30 – Division 1, Quarterfinals
THU 7/1 – Album Tournament, Semifinals

Division Tournaments Semifinals
MON 7/5 – Division 3, Semifinals
TUE 7/6 – Division 2, Semifinals
WED 7/7 – Division 1, Semifinals
THU 7/8 – Album Tournament, Championship

Division Tournament Championships
MON 7/12 – Division 3, Championship
TUE 7/13 – Division 2, Championship
WED 7/14 – Division 1, Championship