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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #175 on: April 03, 2021, 02:50:10 AM »
A first win for Misunderstood, leaving Disappear at the very bottom. And two wins in a row now for ITNOG.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #176 on: April 03, 2021, 07:14:22 AM »
The Albums Ė Week 11 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56344.0
1.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats The Astonishing 17-5 
2.   Awake defeats When Dream and Day Unite 18-4 
3.   Dream Theater defeats Systematic Chaos 12-9 
4.   Falling into Infinity defeats Black Clouds & Silver Linings 12-10
5.   Images and Words defeats Train of Thought 17-5 
6.   Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory defeats A Dramatic Turn of Events 21-1
7.   Octavarium defeats Distance over Time 18-4




The Album Standings after Week 11 of 13.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each album (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 8 albums at seasonís end advance to the Album Championship Tournament.


*1. Images & Words 11-0 (+153)   
*2. Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory 10-1 (+211)
*3. Awake 9-2 (+97)
*4. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 8-3 (+110)   
*5. Octavarium 8-3 (+59) 
6. A Dramatic Turn of Events 7-4 (+8)   
7. Distance over Time 6-5 (-17) 
8. Train of Thought 5-6 (-33)   
9. Falling Into Infinity 5-6 (-65)   
10. Black Clouds & Silver Lining 3-8 (-101)
11. Dream Theater 3-8 (-93)
X12. When Dream and Day Unite 1-10 (-99)
X13. The Astonishing 1-10 (-111)
X14. Systematic Chaos 0-11 (-119)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #177 on: April 07, 2021, 07:29:23 AM »
Division 3, Week 14 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56352.0
1.   New Millennium defeats The Enemy Inside 12-11
2.   Three Days defeats Wither 13-10
3.   Vacant defeats A Better Life 13-10
4.   The Silent Man defeats Lord Nafaryus 13-10
5.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Out of Reach 14-9 
6.   Hollow Years defeats A Life Left Behind 15-8
7.   Through Her Eyes defeats Forsaken 15-8
8.   The Gift of Music defeats Constant Motion 12-11
9.   The Killing Hand defeats Paralyzed 16-7
10.   The Path That Divides defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 12-11
11.   The Bigger Picture defeats Ravenskill 15-8 
12.   Honor Thy Father defeats Dystopian Overture 14-8
13.   One Last Time defeats Beneath the Surface 16-7
14.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats Ytse Jam 12-11
15.   Sacrificed Sons defeats The Shattered Fortress 14-8
16.   Only a Matter of Time defeats Raise the Knife 13-9 


Division 3 Standings after Week 14 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 3 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 2. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to the Outsiders Club.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. Only a Matter of Time 13-0-1 (+65)   
2. Sacrificed Sons 13-1 (+131)
3. Lost Not Forgotten 13-1 (+71)   
4. The Killing Hand 12-1-1 (+95)   
5. Raise the Knife 12-2 (+62)
6. Honor Thy Father 11-2-1 (+24)
7. One Last Time 11-3 (+87)
8. Ytse Jam 9-3-2 (+54) 
9. Through Her Eyes 9-4-1 (+31)
10. A Nightmare to Remember 8-4-2 (+39)
11. The Silent Man 8-4-2 (+29)   
12. Wither 9-5 (+21)
13. New Millennium 8-6 (+8)   
14. The Path That Divides 7-5-2 (-4)
15. The Bigger Picture 7-6-1 (+23)
16. The Shattered Fortress 7-6-1 (+10) 
17. Beneath the Surface 7-7 (+5) 
18. Constant Motion 6-6-2 (+4)   
19. The Enemy Inside 7-7 (-1)
20. Hollow Years 5-7-2 (+37)
21. Three Days 5-7-2 (-6) 
22. The Gift of Music 5-8-1 (-26) 
23. Out of Reach 4-10 (-51)
24. Vacant 3-10-1 (-48)   
25. Paralyzed 3-11 (-57)
26. A Life Left Behind 2-11-1 (-35) 
27. Forsaken 2-11-1 (-38)   
28. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 2-12 (-115)
29. Lord Nafaryus 1-12-1 (-82) 
30. Dystopian Overture 1-12-1 (-94)
X31. A Better Life 1-13 (-89) 
X32. Ravenskill 0-14 (-94)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #178 on: April 08, 2021, 08:01:51 AM »
Division 2, Week 14 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56354.0
1.   As I Am defeats Behind the Veil 17-5 
2.   The Root of All Evil defeats The Great Debate 12-10
3.   Strange Deja vu defeats Untethered Angel 21-1 
4.   Barstool Warrior defeats A New Beginning 13-8
5.   This is the Life defeats Lie 12-10
6.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats Innocence Faded 16-6
7.   These Walls defeats Surrender to Reason 14-8 
8.   Caught in a Web defeats Peruvian Skies 12-10
9.   S2N defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 16-6
10.   The Dance of Eternity defeats Outcry 13-9
11.   Overture 1928 defeats Fall into the Light 17-5
12.   Endless Sacrifice defeats On the Backs of Angels 14-7
13.   Another Day defeats Pale Blue Dot 12-10 
14.   This Dying Soul defeats Stream of Consciousness 13-9
15.   Hellís Kitchen defeats Panic Attack 12-10
16.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Wait For Sleep 16-6


Division 2 Standings after Week 14 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 2 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 1. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 3.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. Strange dťjŗ vu 14-0 (+188)
*2. Space-Dye Vest 14-0 (+132) 
3. The Root of All Evil 13-0-1 (+108)
4. Overture 1928 13-0-1 (+97)
5. Hellís Kitchen 12-0-2 (+89)
6. Lifting Shadows of a Dream 11-1-2 (+46)
7. The Dance of Eternity 10-4 (+47) 
8. This Dying Soul 9-3-2 (+45)
9. The Great Debate 10-4 (+43)
10. Stream of Consciousness 9-4-1 (+60)
11. Wait for Sleep 9-5 (+44)
12. Another Day 7-3-4 (+33)   
13. Barstool Warrior 7-3-4 (+30)   
14. Panic Attack 8-5-1 (+46)
15. Endless Sacrifice 6-5-3 (-1) 
16. As I Am 7-7 (+23)       
17. Peruvian Skies 7-7 (-19)   
18. Pale Blue Dot 6-7-1 (+17)
19 Caught in a Web 6-7-1 (-5)     
20. These Walls 6-7-1 (-10)
21. S2N 4-9-1 (-38) 
22. On the Backs of Angels 4-10 (-45)
23. This is the Life 4-10 (-89)   
24. Innocence Faded 3-10-1 (-57)
25. Lie 3-11 (-37)   
26. A New Beginning 2-11-1 (-72) 
27. Outcry 2-12 (-62)   
28. Fall into the Light 2-12 (-84)
29. Surrender to Reason 1-12-1 (-88) 
X30. The Ministry of Lost Souls 0-13-1 (-110)   
X31. Behind the Veil 0-13-1 (-115)
X32. Untethered Angel 0-14 (-177) 

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #179 on: April 08, 2021, 08:06:56 AM »
All the instrumentals are still in the top 10, with one posed to ascend to Division 1.

Speaking of promotion, looks like SFAM is the only album to have a concrete chance of sending not one but two songs (arguably the "same" song) up amongst the big players, with Awake having a lesser chance at it.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #180 on: April 08, 2021, 07:00:08 PM »
Hard to believe that Only a Matter of Time was in the play-in tournament, and now itís most likely gonna get promoted to Division 2.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #181 on: April 09, 2021, 01:06:04 AM »
Hard to believe that Only a Matter of Time was in the play-in tournament, and now itís most likely gonna get promoted to Division 2.

Same  for Raise the Knife!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #182 on: April 09, 2021, 02:44:39 PM »
Division 1, Week 14 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56357.0
1.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats Disappear 12-10 
2.   Learning to Live defeats 6:00 21-2 
3.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats At Witís End 19-4 
4.   Take the Time defeats Illumination Theory 16-7
5.   The Glass Prison defeats Under a Glass Moon 13-10 
6.   Octavarium defeats Misunderstood 18-5
7.   Scarred defeats Pull Me Under 15-8
8.   Bridges in the Sky defeats Erotomania 12-11
9.   Lines in the Sand defeats Blind Faith 14-9
10.   Fatal Tragedy defeats The Mirror 16-7 
11.   A Change of Seasons defeats Beyond This Life 20-3 
12.   Finally Free defeats Surrounded 17-6
13.   Home defeats The Spirit Carries On 16-7   
14.   Voices defeats The Count of Tuscany 14-9
15.   Metropolis defeats Breaking All Illusions 15-8
16.   Trial of Tears defeats In the Name of God 13-10



Division 1 Standings after Week 14 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 1 Championship Tournament. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 2.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. A Change of Seasons 14-0 (+220)
*2. Learning to Live 14-0 (+198)
3. Metropolis 13-1 (+163)
4. Voices 13-1 (+69) 
5. Octavarium 12-2 (+145)
6. Home 11-2-1 (+70)
7. Scarred 11-3 (+26)
8. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 10-3-1 (+79) 
9. Breaking All Illusions 10-4 (+85)
10. Finally Free 10-4 (+42)   
11. Take the Time 10-4 (+38)
12. Fatal Tragedy 9-5 (+52)
13. The Count of Tuscany 7-5-2 (+25)
14. Lines in the Sand 7-6-1 (+3)   
15. Trial of Tears 7-6-1 (-7) 
16. Under a Glass Moon 6-6-2 (-24)   
17. Surrounded 7-7 (-40)
18. In the Presence of Enemies 6-7-1 (-30)     
19. The Mirror 6-8 (-18)   
20. Beyond this Life 6-8 (-45)   
21. The Glass Prison 5-9 (-33)
22. The Spirit Carries On 5-9 (-53) 
23. Blind Faith 4-9-1 (-43)     
24. Erotomania 3-11 (-85) 
25. At Witís End 3-11 (-108)
26. Pull Me Under 2-10-2 (-114)
27. In the Name of God 2-11-1 (-54) 
28. Bridges in the Sky 1-12-1 (-101)
29. Illumination Theory 0-12-2 (-97)
30. Misunderstood 1-13 (-132)
31. 6:00 1-13 (-138)
X32. Disappear 0-14 (-101)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #183 on: April 10, 2021, 03:23:39 PM »
The Albums Ė Week 12 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56362.0
1.   Black Clouds & Silver Linings defeats The Astonishing 12-10
2.   A Dramatic Turn of Events defeats Dream Theater 17-5 
3.   Images and Words defeats When Dream and Day Unite 20-2 
4.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Systematic Chaos 20-2
5.   Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory defeats Distance over Time 21-1
6.   Train of Thought defeats Falling into Infinity 12-10 
7.   Awake defeats Octavarium 14-8

The Album Standings after Week 12 of 13.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each album (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 8 albums at seasonís end advance to the Album Championship Tournament.


*1. Images & Words 12-0 (+171)   
*2. Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory 11-1 (+231)
*3. Awake 10-2 (+103)
*4. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 9-3 (+128)   
*5. Octavarium 8-4 (+53) 
*6. A Dramatic Turn of Events 8-4 (+20)   
7. Train of Thought 6-6 (-31)   
8. Distance over Time 6-6 (-37) 
9. Falling Into Infinity 5-7 (-67)   
X10. Black Clouds & Silver Lining 4-8 (-99)
X11. Dream Theater 3-9 (-105)
X12. The Astonishing 1-11 (-113)
X13. When Dream and Day Unite 1-11 (-117)
X14. Systematic Chaos 0-12 (-137)



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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #184 on: April 11, 2021, 03:01:48 AM »
TOT and d/t should manage to hold their positions, but who knows what the final matches will be!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #185 on: April 11, 2021, 03:22:11 AM »
TOT and d/t should manage to hold their positions, but who knows what the final matches will be!

Going by process of elimination, it should be TOT vs Awake & D/T vs WDADU

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #186 on: April 11, 2021, 06:59:30 AM »
TOT and d/t should manage to hold their positions, but who knows what the final matches will be!

Going by process of elimination, it should be TOT vs Awake & D/T vs WDADU

I believe FII is up against SDoIT, so even with a likely ToT loss in the final week, it should hold its spot because FII is also most likely going to lose.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #187 on: April 11, 2021, 12:18:05 PM »
TOT and d/t should manage to hold their positions, but who knows what the final matches will be!

Going by process of elimination, it should be TOT vs Awake & D/T vs WDADU

I believe FII is up against SDoIT, so even with a likely ToT loss in the final week, it should hold its spot because FII is also most likely going to lose.

And, SC will be going up against TA.  If WDADU loses (and it certainly will against DOT) and SC wins, those three albums will all finish with one win apiece.  Given the current point differentials, SC is certain to finish in last place (win or lose).
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #188 on: April 14, 2021, 10:49:41 AM »
Division 3, Week 15 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56372.0
1.   Only a Matter of Time defeats Ravenskill 14-8
2.   Lord Nafaryus defeats Dystopian Overture 15-6
3.   Wither defeats The Gift of Music 12-11 
4.   Honor Thy Father defeats Paralyzed 14-9
5.   Vacant defeats Through Her Eyes 12-11 
6.   Hollow Years defeats A Better Life 13-10 
7.   Three Days defeats Out of Reach 14-9
8.   New Millennium defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 16-7
9.   The Enemy Inside defeats Constant Motion 13-10
10.   The Shattered Fortress defeats Forsaken 16-7 
11.   Beneath the Surface defeats A Life Left Behind 14-9 
12.   Sacrificed Sons defeats The Bigger Picture 15-8 
13.   Ytse Jam defeats The Path That Divides 14-9
14.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats The Silent Man 12-11 
15.   One Last Time defeats A Nightmare to Remember 13-10
16.   The Killing Hand defeats Raise the Knife 14-8


Division 3 Standings after Week 15 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 3 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 2. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to the Outsiders Club.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. Only a Matter of Time 14-0-1 (+71)   
*2. Sacrificed Sons 14-1 (+138)
*3. Lost Not Forgotten 14-1 (+72)   
*4. The Killing Hand 13-1-1 (+101)   
5. Honor Thy Father 12-2-1 (+29)
6. One Last Time 12-3 (+90) 
7. Raise the Knife 12-3 (+56)
8. Ytse Jam 10-3-2 (+59) 
9. Wither 10-5 (+22) 
10. Through Her Eyes 9-5-1 (+30)
11. A Nightmare to Remember 8-5-2 (+36)
12. The Silent Man 8-5-2 (+28)   
13. New Millennium 9-6 (+17)   
14. The Shattered Fortress 8-6-1 (+19)   
15. Beneath the Surface 8-7 (+10)
16. The Enemy Inside 8-7 (+2)
17. The Path That Divides 7-6-2 (-9)
18. The Bigger Picture 7-7-1 (+16)
19. Hollow Years 6-7-2 (+40)
20. Constant Motion 6-7-2 (+1)   
21. Three Days 6-7-2 (-1) 
22. The Gift of Music 5-9-1 (-27) 
23. Vacant 4-10-1 (-47)   
24. Out of Reach 4-11 (-56)
25. Paralyzed 3-12 (-62)
X26. A Life Left Behind 2-12-1 (-40) 
X27. Forsaken 2-12-1 (-47)   
X28. Lord Nafaryus 2-12-1 (-73)   
X29. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 2-13 (-124)
X30. Dystopian Overture 1-13-1 (-103)
X31. A Better Life 1-14 (-92) 
X32. Ravenskill 0-15 (-100)

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #189 on: April 15, 2021, 07:46:23 AM »
Division 2, Week 15 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56377.0
1.   Overture 1928 defeats As I Am 13-8 
2.   Pale Blue Dot defeats Endless Sacrifice 11-10 
3.   S2N defeats Outcry 11-10 
4.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Peruvian Skies 13-8 
5.   Hellís Kitchen defeats Surrender to Reason 16-5
6.   Panic Attack defeats Innocence Faded 13-8
7.   Wait for Sleep defeats This is the Life 15-6
8.   The Great Debate defeats On the Backs of Angels 15-6
9.   Fall into the Light defeats Untethered Angel 14-6
10.   A New Beginning defeats Lie 11-10
11.   The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats Behind the Veil 11-10
12.   This Dying Soul defeats Caught in a Web 11-10
13.   Strange Deja vu defeats These Walls 16-5 
14.   Barstool Warrior defeats The Dance of Eternity 14-7   
15.   Stream of Consciousness defeats Another Day 12-9
16.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats The Root of All Evil 11-10 


Division 2 Standings after Week 15 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 2 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 1. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 3.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. Strange dťjŗ vu 15-0 (+199)
*2. Space-Dye Vest 15-0 (+137) 
*3. Overture 1928 14-0-1 (+102)
*4. Hellís Kitchen 13-0-2 (+100) 
*5. The Root of All Evil 13-1-1 (+107)
*6. Lifting Shadows of a Dream 12-1-2 (+47)
7. The Great Debate 11-4 (+52)
8. This Dying Soul 10-3-2 (+46)
9. Stream of Consciousness 10-4-1 (+63)
10. Wait for Sleep 10-5 (+53)
11. The Dance of Eternity 10-5 (+40) 
12. Barstool Warrior 8-3-4 (+37)   
13. Panic Attack 9-5-1 (+51) 
14. Another Day 7-4-4 (+30)   
15. Pale Blue Dot 7-7-1 (+18)
16. Endless Sacrifice 6-6-3 (-2) 
17. As I Am 7-8 (+18)       
18. Peruvian Skies 7-8 (-24)   
19 Caught in a Web 6-8-1 (-6)     
20. These Walls 6-8-1 (-21)
21. S2N 5-9-1 (-37) 
22. On the Backs of Angels 4-11 (-54)
23. This is the Life 4-11 (-98)   
24. Innocence Faded 3-11-1 (-62)
25. A New Beginning 3-11-1 (-71)   
26. Lie 3-12 (-38)   
27. Fall into the Light 3-12 (-76) 
X28. Outcry 2-13 (-63)   
X29. Surrender to Reason 1-13-1 (-99) 
X30. The Ministry of Lost Souls 1-13-1 (-109)   
X31. Behind the Veil 0-14-1 (-116)
X32. Untethered Angel 0-15 (-185) 


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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #190 on: April 15, 2021, 08:17:35 AM »
Two instrumentals up for promotion now!

And now, the always fun mini rant about personal tastes and the reality that other people have different preferences: what the hell are The Great Debate and This Dying Soul in the top 10 when These Walls and especially Lie are so low?
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #191 on: April 16, 2021, 08:19:14 AM »
Division 1, Week 15 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56379.0
1.   A Change of Seasons defeats Blind Faith 19-1 
2.   Scarred defeats Bridges in the Sky 14-6
3.   Under a Glass Moon defeats The Mirror 11-9 
4.   The Count of Tuscany defeats At Witís End 15-5
5.   Lines in the Sand defeats Disappear 11-9
6.   In the Name of God defeats Erotomania 13-7
7.   Pull Me Under defeats 6:00 12-8
8.   Beyond This Life defeats The Spirit Carries On 12-8
9.   Learning to Live defeats Misunderstood 16-3 
10.   Trial of Tears defeats Illumination Theory 12-8
11.   Metropolis defeats The Glass Prison 14-6
12.   Home defeats Surrounded 13-5
13.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats In the Presence of Enemies 16-4 
14.   Fatal Tragedy defeats Take the Time 12-8 
15.   Finally Free defeats Breaking All Illusions 12-8
16.   Octavarium defeats Voices 14-6


Division 1 Standings after Week 15 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 1 Championship Tournament. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 2.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. A Change of Seasons 15-0 (+238)
*2. Learning to Live 15-0 (+211)
*3. Metropolis 14-1 (+171)
*4. Octavarium 13-2 (+153)
*5. Voices 13-2 (+61) 
*6. Home 12-2-1 (+78)
7. Scarred 12-3 (+34)
8. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 11-3-1 (+91) 
9. Finally Free 11-4 (+46)   
10. Breaking All Illusions 10-5 (+81)
11. Fatal Tragedy 10-5 (+56) 
12. Take the Time 10-5 (+34)
13. The Count of Tuscany 8-5-2 (+35)
14. Lines in the Sand 8-6-1 (+5)   
15. Trial of Tears 8-6-1 (-3) 
16. Under a Glass Moon 7-6-2 (-22)   
17. Beyond this Life 7-8 (-41)   
18. Surrounded 7-8 (-48) 
19. In the Presence of Enemies 6-8-1 (-42)     
20. The Mirror 6-9 (-20)   
21. The Glass Prison 5-10 (-41)
22. The Spirit Carries On 5-10 (-57) 
23. Blind Faith 4-10-1 (-61)     
24. Pull Me Under 3-10-2 (-110)
25. In the Name of God 3-11-1 (-48) 
26. Erotomania 3-12 (-91) 
27. At Witís End 3-12 (-118)
X28. Bridges in the Sky 1-13-1 (-109)
X29. Illumination Theory 0-13-2 (-101)
X30. 6:00 1-14 (-142) 
X31. Misunderstood 1-14 (-145)
X32. Disappear 0-15 (-103)


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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #192 on: April 16, 2021, 08:21:46 AM »
The big and direct match means that Octavarium regains its place in the Big 4, thanks to a better voting ratio than Voices that still however holds the "only 2 defeats" position just like the nuggetz song!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #193 on: April 17, 2021, 06:24:40 AM »
The Albums Ė Week 13 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56383.0
1.   The Astonishing defeats Systematic Chaos 11-9 
2.   Images and Words defeats Black Clouds and Silver Linings 18-3 
3.   Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory defeats Dream Theater 21-0
4.   Octavarium defeats A Dramatic Turn of Events 13-8
5.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Falling into Infinity 18-3
6.   Distance over Time defeats When Dream and Day Unite 11-10
7.   Awake defeats Train of Thought 19-2 


The Album Standings after Week 13 of 13.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each album (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 8 albums at seasonís end advance to the Album Championship Tournament.


*1. Images & Words 13-0 (+186)   
*2. Metropolis Pt.2: Scenes from a Memory 12-1 (+252)
*3. Awake 11-2 (+120)
*4. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 10-3 (+143)   
*5. Octavarium 9-4 (+58) 
*6. A Dramatic Turn of Events 8-5 (+15)   
*7. Distance over Time 7-6 (-36)   
*8. Train of Thought 6-7 (-48)   
X9. Falling Into Infinity 5-8 (-82)   
X10. Black Clouds & Silver Lining 4-9 (-114)
X11. Dream Theater 3-10 (-126)
X12. The Astonishing 2-11 (-111)
X13. When Dream and Day Unite 1-12 (-118)
X14. Systematic Chaos 0-13 (-137)


Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #194 on: April 17, 2021, 08:27:24 AM »
A solid, and somehow predictable, Top 8. I personally wouldn't rank SC last, if only for ITPOE.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #195 on: April 17, 2021, 08:30:00 AM »
I thought SFAM was gonna win this, otherwise as just posted, it's a cool albeit predictable list.

Charlie Dominici managed to not finish last, and two Mangini albums out of four made it to the top 8, with The Astonishing snatching at least two victories.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #196 on: April 17, 2021, 01:13:59 PM »
Iíd like to congratulate Octavarium, A Dramatic Turn of Events, Distance over Time, and Train of Thought on their successful seasons, but letís be honest the album tournament was always gonna come down to ďwhich of the big four will the forums collectively favor this yearĒ.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #197 on: April 17, 2021, 01:49:39 PM »
Iím rooting for Octavarium to have at least one early upset.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #198 on: April 17, 2021, 02:59:07 PM »
Iím rooting for Octavarium to have at least one early upset.

Me too, as itís my second favorite Dream Theater album only behind SFaM. I actually think the most likely round one upset is ADToE over Awake, but in reality, the only result from the regular season that might change is the eventual championship matchup between IaW and SFaM.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #199 on: April 17, 2021, 04:09:40 PM »
Let's also note that, even if Images and Words won the tournament, Scenes from a Memory by far got the most large victories, meaning that it never had any serious competition.... until it had!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #200 on: April 21, 2021, 07:27:39 AM »
Division 3, Week 16 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56394.0
1.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 14-8
2.   Only a Matter of Time defeats The Bigger Picture 13-9
3.   The Killing Hand defeats Dystopian Overture 18-4
4.   Constant Motion defeats Three Days 12-10
5.   Forsaken defeats A Better Life 12-10
6.   Vacant & A Life Left Behind tied 11-11
7.   The Shattered Fortress defeats Ravenskill 14-8
8.   The Enemy Inside defeats The Path That Divides 12-10
9.   Raise the Knife defeats Paralyzed 15-6
10.   New Millennium defeats The Gift of Music 13-9
11.   Sacrificed Sons defeats Through Her Eyes 16-6
12.   One Last Time defeats Hollow Years 14-8
13.   Lord Nafaryus defeats Out of Reach 12-10
14.   The Silent Man defeats Honor Thy Father 12-10 
15.   Ytse Jam defeats Beneath the Surface 14-8
16.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Wither 14-8


Division 3 Standings after Week 16 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 3 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 2. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to the Outsiders Club.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. Only a Matter of Time 15-0-1 (+75)   
*2. Sacrificed Sons 15-1 (+148)
*3. Lost Not Forgotten 15-1 (+78)   
*4. The Killing Hand 14-1-1 (+115)   
*5. One Last Time 13-3 (+96) 
*6. Raise the Knife 13-3 (+65)
*7. Honor Thy Father 12-3-1 (+27)
8. Ytse Jam 11-3-2 (+65) 
9. A Nightmare to Remember 9-5-2 (+42)
10. The Silent Man 9-5-2 (+30)   
11. New Millennium 10-6 (+21)   
12. Wither 10-6 (+16)   
13. The Shattered Fortress 9-6-1 (+25)   
14. Through Her Eyes 9-6-1 (+20)
15. The Enemy Inside 9-7 (+4) 
16. Beneath the Surface 8-8 (+16)
17. Constant Motion 7-7-2 (+3)   
18. The Path That Divides 7-7-2 (-11)
19. The Bigger Picture 7-8-1 (+12)
20. Hollow Years 6-8-2 (+34)
21. Three Days 6-8-2 (-3) 
22. The Gift of Music 5-10-1 (-31) 
23. Vacant 4-10-2 (-47)   
24. Out of Reach 4-12 (-58)
X25. A Life Left Behind 2-12-2 (-40)   
X26. Paralyzed 3-13 (-71)
X27. Forsaken 3-12-1 (-45)   
X28. Lord Nafaryus 3-12-1 (-71)   
X29. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 2-14 (-130)
X30. Dystopian Overture 1-14-1 (-117)
X31. A Better Life 1-15 (-94) 
X32. Ravenskill 0-16 (-106)



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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #201 on: April 22, 2021, 07:20:12 AM »
Division 2, Week 16 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56396.0
1.   As I Am defeats Fall into the Light 17-5
2.   Another Day defeats On the Backs of Angels 13-9
3.   The Dance of Eternity defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 14-7 
4.   Wait for Sleep defeats Caught in a Web 14-8
5.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Lie 14-8
6.   Pale Blue Dot defeats This Dying Soul 13-9 
7.   S2N defeats Behind the Veil 15-7
8.   Peruvian Skies defeats Stream of Consciousness 12-10
9.   Surrender to Reason defeats Untethered Angel 13-9
10.   Barstool Warrior defeats This is the Life 13-9
11.   Outcry defeats A New Beginning 14-8 
12.   The Great Debate defeats Innocence Faded 12-9
13.   These Walls & Panic Attack tied 11-11
14.   The Root of All Evil defeats Endless Sacrifice 16-6
15.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats Hellís Kitchen 12-11 
16.   Strange Dťjŗ vu defeats Overture 1928 14-8 


Division 2 Standings after Week 16 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 2 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 1. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 3.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. Strange dťjŗ vu 16-0 (+205)
*2. Space-Dye Vest 16-0 (+143) 
*3. The Root of All Evil 14-1-1 (+117)
*4. Overture 1928 14-1-1 (+96)
*5. Hellís Kitchen 13-1-2 (+99)   
*6. Lifting Shadows of a Dream 13-1-2 (+48)
7. The Great Debate 12-4 (+55)
8. Wait for Sleep 11-5 (+59) 
9. The Dance of Eternity 11-5 (+47)   
10. This Dying Soul 10-4-2 (+42)
11. Barstool Warrior 9-3-4 (+41)     
12. Stream of Consciousness 10-5-1 (+61)
13. Panic Attack 9-5-2 (+51) 
14. Another Day 8-4-4 (+34)   
15. Pale Blue Dot 8-7-1 (+22)
16. As I Am 8-8 (+30)       
17. Peruvian Skies 8-8 (-22)   
18. Endless Sacrifice 6-7-3 (-12) 
19. These Walls 6-8-2 (-21) 
20 Caught in a Web 6-9-1 (-12)     
21. S2N 6-9-1 (-29) 
22. On the Backs of Angels 4-12 (-58)
23. This is the Life 4-12 (-102)   
X24. Innocence Faded 3-12-1 (-65)
X25. A New Beginning 3-12-1 (-77)   
X26. Lie 3-13 (-44)   
X27. Outcry 3-13 (-57)   
X28. Fall into the Light 3-13 (-88) 
X29. Surrender to Reason 2-13-1 (-95) 
X30. The Ministry of Lost Souls 1-14-1 (-116)   
X31. Behind the Veil 0-15-1 (-124)
X32. Untethered Angel 0-16 (-189) 

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #202 on: April 23, 2021, 07:37:09 AM »
Division 1, Week 16 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56401.0
1.   Pull Me Under defeats Erotomania 18-5 
2.   At Witís End defeats Disappear 12-11 
3.   The Count of Tuscany defeats Misunderstood 14-9
4.   Fatal Tragedy defeats The Glass Prison 12-11
5.   The Mirror defeats Illumination Theory 13-10
6.   Blind Faith defeats In the Presence of Enemies 12-11 
7.   Trial of Tears defeats Bridges in the Sky 15-8
8.   Metropolis defeats Surrounded 18-5
9.   A Change of Seasons defeats The Spirit Carries On 22-1
10.   Octavarium defeats 6:00 20-3 
11.   Breaking All Illusions defeats Under a Glass Moon 13-10
12.   Take the Time defeats In the Name of God 12-10
13.   Lines in the Sand defeats Beyond This Life 12-11 
14.   Home defeats Finally Free 15-8
15.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Voices 13-10
16.   Learning to Live defeats Scarred 18-5


Division 1 Standings after Week 16 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 1 Championship Tournament. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to Division 2.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. A Change of Seasons 16-0 (+259)
*2. Learning to Live 16-0 (+224)
*3. Metropolis 15-1 (+184)
*4. Octavarium 14-2 (+170)
*5. Home 13-2-1 (+85)
*6. Voices 13-3 (+58) 
*7. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 12-3-1 (+94)   
*8. Scarred 12-4 (+21)
9. Breaking All Illusions 11-5 (+84)
10. Fatal Tragedy 11-5 (+57) 
11. Finally Free 11-5 (+39)     
12. Take the Time 11-5 (+36)
13. The Count of Tuscany 9-5-2 (+40)
14. Lines in the Sand 9-6-1 (+6)   
15. Trial of Tears 9-6-1 (+4) 
16. Under a Glass Moon 7-7-2 (-25)   
17. The Mirror 7-9 (-17)   
18. Beyond this Life 7-9 (-42)   
19. Surrounded 7-9 (-61) 
20. In the Presence of Enemies 6-9-1 (-43)     
21. Blind Faith 5-10-1 (-60)     
22. The Glass Prison 5-11 (-42)
23. The Spirit Carries On 5-11 (-78) 
24. Pull Me Under 4-10-2 (-97)
25. At Witís End 4-12 (-117)
X26. In the Name of God 3-12-1 (-50) 
X27. Erotomania 3-13 (-104) 
X28. Bridges in the Sky 1-14-1 (-116)
X29. Illumination Theory 0-14-2 (-104)
X30. Misunderstood 1-15 (-150) 
X31. 6:00 1-15 (-159) 
X32. Disappear 0-16 (-104)


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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #203 on: April 23, 2021, 07:55:22 AM »
The big matches shake the top 10!!!

- Voices loses a position to Home
- Scarred loses a position to Six Degrees
- SFAM change - Finally Free drops out of the top 10, Fatal Tragedy sneaks in!
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #204 on: April 26, 2021, 07:41:39 AM »
I just realized that it's the final four songs in the knockout tournament that will be promoted, not necessarily the top 4 at regular-season's-end. So if song #14 gets two upsets or whatever, that song will be promoted.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #205 on: April 26, 2021, 09:34:38 AM »
I just realized that it's the final four songs in the knockout tournament that will be promoted, not necessarily the top 4 at regular-season's-end. So if song #14 gets two upsets or whatever, that song will be promoted.

Yes, I felt it would be better that way in case say a 5 seed with a harder schedule beats a 4 seed with an easier schedule in the tournament.

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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #206 on: April 26, 2021, 09:37:29 AM »
I just realized that it's the final four songs in the knockout tournament that will be promoted, not necessarily the top 4 at regular-season's-end. So if song #14 gets two upsets or whatever, that song will be promoted.

Yes, I felt it would be better that way in case say a 5 seed with a harder schedule beats a 4 seed with an easier schedule in the tournament.

Actually I was wondering why the green and red slots disappeared! makes sense now.
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« Reply #207 on: April 28, 2021, 08:07:57 AM »
Division 3, Week 17 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=56411.0
1.   Paralyzed defeats A Better Life 14-9
2.   The Path That Divides defeats Vacant 12-11
3.   Wither defeats Ravenskill 14-9
4.   The Silent Man defeats The Shattered Fortress 15-8
5.   Raise the Knife defeats A Life Left Behind 14-8
6.   New Millennium defeats Forsaken 12-11
7.   Sacrificed Sons defeats Constant Motion 13-10
8.   Lord Nafaryus defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 14-9
9.   The Bigger Picture defeats Out of Reach 13-9
10.   Through Her Eyes defeats Dystopian Overture 14-9
11.   The Gift of Music defeats Three Days 12-10
12.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats The Enemy Inside 15-8
13.   Hollow Years defeats A Nightmare to Remember 12-11
14.   Ytse Jam defeats Honor Thy Father 12-10
15.   Only a Matter of Time defeats Beneath the Surface 16-7
16.   The Killing Hand defeats One Last Time 15-8


Division 3 Standings after Week 17 of 20.

The first tiebreaker shall be season long vote differential for each song (Votes for minus votes against). Other tiebreakers will be applied at seasonís end if necessary, with any head to head victories taking priority.

The top 16 songs at seasonís end advance to the Division 3 Championship Tournament, where the final four songs shall be promoted to Division 2. The songs that finish 29th-32nd will be regulated to the Outsiders Club.

* = Clinched playoff spot
X= Eliminated from Playoff contention.

Rank/Song/Record/Point Differential
*1. Only a Matter of Time 16-0-1 (+84)   
*2. Sacrificed Sons 16-1 (+151)
*3. Lost Not Forgotten 16-1 (+85)   
*4. The Killing Hand 15-1-1 (+122)   
*5. Raise the Knife 14-3 (+71) 
*6. One Last Time 13-4 (+89) 
*7. Ytse Jam 12-3-2 (+67)   
*8. Honor Thy Father 12-4-1 (+25)
9. The Silent Man 10-5-2 (+37)     
10. New Millennium 11-6 (+22)   
11. Wither 11-6 (+21)   
12. Through Her Eyes 10-6-1 (+25) 
13. A Nightmare to Remember 9-6-2 (+41)
14. The Shattered Fortress 9-7-1 (+18)   
15. The Enemy Inside 9-8 (-3) 
16. The Path That Divides 8-7-2 (-10) 
17. Beneath the Surface 8-9 (+7)
18. Constant Motion 7-8-2 (0)   
19. The Bigger Picture 8-8-1 (+16)
20. Hollow Years 7-8-2 (+35)
21. Three Days 6-9-2 (-5) 
22. The Gift of Music 6-10-1 (-29) 
X23. Vacant 4-11-2 (-48)   
X24. Lord Nafaryus 4-12-1 (-66)   
X25. Out of Reach 4-13 (-62)
X26. Paralyzed 4-13 (-66) 
X27. Forsaken 3-13-1 (-46)     
X28. A Life Left Behind 2-13-2 (-34)   
X29. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 2-15 (-135)
X30. Dystopian Overture 1-15-1 (-122)
X31. A Better Life 1-16 (-99) 
X32. Ravenskill 0-17 (-111)


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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #208 on: April 28, 2021, 08:11:41 AM »
Hoping at least A Better Life or Ravenskill get a couple of wins (unlikely) surpassing at least A Life Left Behind, since they're way better songs.
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Re: Dream Theater the League - 2021
« Reply #209 on: April 28, 2021, 09:07:57 AM »
Hoping at least A Better Life or Ravenskill get a couple of wins (unlikely) surpassing at least A Life Left Behind, since they're way better songs.

The week 5 results ( https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55850.msg2746632#msg2746632 ) say otherwise as to Ravenskill.

The week 11 results ( https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=55850.msg2758399#msg2758399 ) say otherwise as to A Better Life.
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